Re: [MBZ] Replacing combination switch E320

2020-07-11 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
You have to remove the air bag and the steering wheel. 

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> On Jul 10, 2020, at 10:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> My friend accidentally snapped the combination switch in his 1998 E320
> sedan. He was wondering whether he would have to remove the steering wheel
> to replace it. I know nothing but perhaps one of you can help.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacing combination switch E320

2020-07-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Clocksprings were in use with the W140s as well. They provided connections to 
the airbag as well as position indication for the ECU. Don’t ever take one 
apart, don’t ask me why.

-D

> On Jul 11, 2020, at 9:59 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> On Sat, July 11, 2020 9:52 am, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> That is the device that maintains the electrical connections (for the
>> airbag, horn, and perhaps other controls mounted on the steering wheel)
>> between the steering wheel and the steering column.  I don't think it has
>> a big clockspring in it, I know it does not for my 124 cars.
> 
> In my MBZ, clocksprings are for horn and airbag wiring. (clocksprings
> often get fried when airbags go off, especially modern clocksprings with a
> bunch of horn button controls)
> 
> The earliest examples of busy clocksprings in MBZ I can think of are
> facelifted W210 and W220, when cruise control moved to buttons on the
> wheel.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacing combination switch E320

2020-07-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sat, July 11, 2020 9:52 am, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> That is the device that maintains the electrical connections (for the
> airbag, horn, and perhaps other controls mounted on the steering wheel)
> between the steering wheel and the steering column.  I don't think it has
> a big clockspring in it, I know it does not for my 124 cars.

In my MBZ, clocksprings are for horn and airbag wiring. (clocksprings
often get fried when airbags go off, especially modern clocksprings with a
bunch of horn button controls)

The earliest examples of busy clocksprings in MBZ I can think of are
facelifted W210 and W220, when cruise control moved to buttons on the
wheel.

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing combination switch E320

2020-07-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That is the device that maintains the electrical connections (for the
airbag, horn, and perhaps other controls mounted on the steering wheel)
between the steering wheel and the steering column.  I don't think it has a
big clockspring in it, I know it does not for my 124 cars.  On my cars, it
has carbon brushes that make the connection with copper rings on the
underside of the steering wheel.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 9:33 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 11:33:34 + (UTC) Robert Koziak via Mercedes
>  wrote:
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> > One work of caution is when you reach the removal of the "clockspring"
> > step be sure to cautiously keep it in the same exact position.  I
> > thought I did but when reinstalling it made a clicking noise and the
> > airbag SRS light came on.  I needed to purchase a new clockspring to
> > complete the job. Good luck! Bob
>
> What is a "clockspring"?
>
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> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Replacing combination switch E320

2020-07-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 11:33:34 + (UTC) Robert Koziak via Mercedes
 wrote:

> One work of caution is when you reach the removal of the "clockspring"
> step be sure to cautiously keep it in the same exact position.  I
> thought I did but when reinstalling it made a clicking noise and the
> airbag SRS light came on.  I needed to purchase a new clockspring to
> complete the job. Good luck! Bob

What is a "clockspring"?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing combination switch E320

2020-07-11 Thread Robert Koziak via Mercedes
I just changed the combination switch on my 2004 E320 because the window wiper 
motor stopped working.  It turned out to be a cut wire which apparently 
happened to quite a few vehicles.  The new combination switch had a slight 
modification.
The steering wheel does have to come off.  I needed a pry bar and a little help 
to remove the steering wheel nut when I reached that step.  There are quite a 
few videos on Youtube that had very helpful instructions.  One work of caution 
is when you reach the removal of the "clockspring"  step be sure to cautiously 
keep it in the same exact position.  I thought I did but when reinstalling it 
made a clicking noise and the airbag SRS light came on.  I needed to purchase a 
new clockspring to complete the job.
Good luck!
Bob


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From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2020 11:52 pm
Subject: [MBZ] Replacing combination switch E320

My friend accidentally snapped the combination switch in his 1998 E320
sedan. He was wondering whether he would have to remove the steering wheel
to replace it. I know nothing but perhaps one of you can help.
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[MBZ] Replacing combination switch E320

2020-07-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My friend accidentally snapped the combination switch in his 1998 E320
sedan. He was wondering whether he would have to remove the steering wheel
to replace it. I know nothing but perhaps one of you can help.
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