[meteorite-list] Man seeks $9 million for piece he says is from spacecraft

[Dave Harris]

Yeah, great story...
The line I liked was "...doesn't believe he's got a meteorite or anything
prosaic" !!
Oh yes and the line "It blew away parts of my external soul with its
"infinite complexity" "

yeah, right your prefrontal cortex by the sounds of it


a major loon.
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dave

http://www.meteorites.ic24.net/index.html

http://www.thc.u-net.com/davethc1.htm


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[meteorite-list] "AD" SALE

[Meteordealer]

  I have the following pieces available for sale or 
trade. If you're interested in some other sizes you can also try Robert Matson 
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I 
can also trim down a larger piece if necessary so don't be afraid to 
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Lost Creek, Lincoln County, Kansas  (H3.8)Found 1916TKW 
4,018g
(1) 0.9g part slice
(2) 2.0g part slice
(3) 2.3g part slice
(4) 3.9g paper thin slice
(5) 4.9g part slice
(6) 5.1g part slice
(7) 5.7g cut piece
(8) 10.0g part slice
(9) 10.8g part slice "SOLD"
(10) 13.1g part slice
(11) 13.5g part slice
(12) 16.4g part slice
(13) 27.9g part slice
(14) 28.1g endcut
(15) 31.3g half slice
(16) 40.5g half slice
(17) 46.7g half slice
(18) 48.9g half slice
(19) 72.3g half slice
(20) 94.3g wedged slice
(21) 175g full slice "SOLD"
(22) 204.5g full slice
(23) 208.7g full slice
(24) 277g full slice
(25) 298g full slice
(26) 1,120g main mass
 
   This is a beautiful new meteorite that is being 
offered for the first time. It has a greyish blue colored matrix with greenish 
colored mottling. Some pieces display greenish colored veins running across 
the matrix. This meteorite also contains numerous well defined chondrules, 
although the photos don't show them very well. If you've been waiting for an 
American H3.8 to come along so you could fill that hole in your collection then 
now is the time. There is only ONE other H3.8 from the USA and it wasn't 
made available publicly to collectors. If you pass up this chance to snag an 
American H3.8 then good luck finding another one because there isn't one on the 
market. Email me directly for prices and photos as each piece is different. I am 
open to all trades EXCEPT for NWA's or other Moroccan finds. I ship 
anywhere in the world. PayPal is also accepted. Thanks!
 
Sample photos:
http://www.geocities.com/meteordealer_2000/LC7.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/meteordealer_2000/lc8.jpg
 
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[meteorite-list] Floating Fireball Over Texas Caught On Video

[Ron Baalke]

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/010702_news_ufo.html

UFO sighting?
Mystery object caught on tape

A Pearland resident with a video camera caught the
mysterious object on tape.

By Don Nelson
ABC 13 Eyewitness News (Houston, Texas)

(1/7/02) - Some Pearland residents are still
scratching their heads after spotting a strange
object in the sky on Sunday. But was it a UFO?

There is a mystery unfolding in Pearland. But it may
be a while before this one involving a "fire in the  
sky" is solved.  
  
Rocky Flint captured images Sunday afternoon with
his video recorder in Pearland. It appears to be a  
burning object in the sky. His wife, Cynthia, says
it was hard to miss.

Cynthia Flint/Pearland Resident: "It resembled a floating fireball."

The fiery ball appears to remain stationary for several minutes before
moving downward and then disappearing. Flint says she had no idea what
she was witnessing.

Cynthia Flint/Pearland Resident: "There's nothing to describe what it
was. It's so unique and so different. I've never in my whole life seen
anything like it."

Eyewitness News made calls to both airports and neither one could shed
any light on the mystery. The Brazoria county sheriff's department also
received some calls, but they couldn't find anything. Flint's husband
has his own theory.

Cynthia Flint/Pearland Resident: "He couldn't believe what he was
seeing. He said that it looked like a UFO."

We made another call to NORAD, the North American Aerospace Defense
Command. They also failed to provide answers.

Rocky Flint/On amateur video: "It's still here, baby. And they see us."

Before Sunday, Mrs. Flint didn't believe in UFO's.

Cynthia Flint/Pearland Resident: "I'm not a big believer of them. But I
can't describe what I saw up there, either."

Several other phone calls from viewers who also saw some type of "fire
in the sky" came into the newsroom on Sunday. But right now, we still
aren't exactly sure what it was. Stay tuned...

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RE: [meteorite-list] Current topics

[Rhett Bourland]

Oh yeah, one last note before I go to bed about the Pellisons/Dean debate.
Please don't take my comments to mean that I don't like hearing about either
of your newest meteorites because I honestly do.  Your slice from your last
trip is beautiful (especially those armored chondrules, wow!) and on behalf
of all of us thank you for sharing it with us and I always love seeing
Dean's beaut's from his latest shipments (hey, for the record, the biggest
meteorite in my collection came from Dean).  Just, for the sake of everyone
here, stop taking cheap shots at each other, ok?
Thanks,
Rhett Bourland
www.asteroidmodels.com
www.asteroidmodels.com/personal

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Wow, gone for a couple days and between list emails, junk email, and
personal email I've got over 100 emails.  Yipes.
Ok, my personal opinion on just a few things that have been on the list the
past couple of days.

Pellisons/Dean argument - Guys, get over it and if you're going to be
antagonizing each other with your petty arguments about collection and
pricing methods please keep it to yourselves.  I don't care and I'm sure
quite a few people agree with me.  Yes strewnfield data is nice to have and
so are very cheap NWA's (of which I have bought a few myself for a very good
price).  Don't take this as a personal attack on either of you or a backing
for either of your arguments.  Just be respectful of each other before we
all lose respect for both of you.  As a nuetral bystander in all of this I'm
asking you both nicely to give it a rest.  As someone who loves learning
about the science of falls AND someone who likes getting good meteorites at
good prices next time one of you makes a veiled jab at the other I'll call
you out on it and won't be as nice.

Mohamed - Have you ever heard of the rule that says the simplest and easiest
answer is almost always the correct one?  Suspect that you have a meteorite
when it doesn't fit into any other categories.  When you ask the opinion of
experts don't try to argue when they tell you something you don't want to
hear.  That's nice that you are a student of what you are but just because I
know how to build a computer and its network doesn't mean I know how to
write a program.  Take Dave Freeman's advice and buy the mineral guide he
told you about.  I know I went out and bought it myself because what he said
and I probably know a slight bit more about meteorites than you do.  Read it
and apply it to any rocks you may find that looks unusual.  You'll probably
find your answers that way.  To everyone else, be a little nicer to the guy.
He's off in his own world a little bit here but at least he's enthusiastic.
That's gotta count for something.  If he really bugs you that much just
ignore him.

Al Mitterling - Your Dimmit slice sounds amazing!!!  I'd be more than happy
to put its image up on my site.  Just email it to me privately and I'll give
you, as well as everyone else, a chance to see this too cool meteorite
you've got.  I know I can't wait!

For those of you who have read this far, watch your inboxes over the next
few days.  I'm just about done with a new website that some of you have
expressed some interest in and I think you may like.  ;)
Best wishes,
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[meteorite-list] Current topics

[Rhett Bourland]

Wow, gone for a couple days and between list emails, junk email, and
personal email I've got over 100 emails.  Yipes.
Ok, my personal opinion on just a few things that have been on the list the
past couple of days.

Pellisons/Dean argument - Guys, get over it and if you're going to be
antagonizing each other with your petty arguments about collection and
pricing methods please keep it to yourselves.  I don't care and I'm sure
quite a few people agree with me.  Yes strewnfield data is nice to have and
so are very cheap NWA's (of which I have bought a few myself for a very good
price).  Don't take this as a personal attack on either of you or a backing
for either of your arguments.  Just be respectful of each other before we
all lose respect for both of you.  As a nuetral bystander in all of this I'm
asking you both nicely to give it a rest.  As someone who loves learning
about the science of falls AND someone who likes getting good meteorites at
good prices next time one of you makes a veiled jab at the other I'll call
you out on it and won't be as nice.

Mohamed - Have you ever heard of the rule that says the simplest and easiest
answer is almost always the correct one?  Suspect that you have a meteorite
when it doesn't fit into any other categories.  When you ask the opinion of
experts don't try to argue when they tell you something you don't want to
hear.  That's nice that you are a student of what you are but just because I
know how to build a computer and its network doesn't mean I know how to
write a program.  Take Dave Freeman's advice and buy the mineral guide he
told you about.  I know I went out and bought it myself because what he said
and I probably know a slight bit more about meteorites than you do.  Read it
and apply it to any rocks you may find that looks unusual.  You'll probably
find your answers that way.  To everyone else, be a little nicer to the guy.
He's off in his own world a little bit here but at least he's enthusiastic.
That's gotta count for something.  If he really bugs you that much just
ignore him.

Al Mitterling - Your Dimmit slice sounds amazing!!!  I'd be more than happy
to put its image up on my site.  Just email it to me privately and I'll give
you, as well as everyone else, a chance to see this too cool meteorite
you've got.  I know I can't wait!

For those of you who have read this far, watch your inboxes over the next
few days.  I'm just about done with a new website that some of you have
expressed some interest in and I think you may like.  ;)
Best wishes,
Rhett Bourland
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is This Lunar?

[David Freeman]

Dear Randy;

Thanks man, I couldn't have said it better or with more eloquence myself.
Best,
Dave F.
(you have made my day)

Randy Mils wrote:

>
>
> Hey Pal.
>
> Why dont' you go bother some other list with your crappy rocks.  You 
> have a lot of guts to think that you can find meteorites everytime you 
> walk out the door.  And you even have the guts to suggest it is 
> Lunar.  Get a life clown.
>
> Randy
>
> >From: "DiamondMeteor" >To: >Subject: [meteorite-list] Is This Lunar? 
> >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:33:35 +0400 > >Hiii All; >I just found this 
> rock today. It has a fusion crust thick from one side and thin from 
> the other. it is white/gray from inside. >Please have a look: 
> >http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/cn/ln.htm > >Best 
> Regards >Mohamed 
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Re: [meteorite-list] First Mars ID

[Ron Baalke]

>Papanastassiou, D. A. and Wasserburg, G. J. "Evidence for the Late Formation and 
>Young Metamorphism in the Achondrite Nakhla." Geophys.  Res. Let. 1, 23-26, 1974. 

It turns out that Dimitri Papanastassiou's office is in the building next to mine, so 
I went
over this morning to talk to him about his 1974 article.  His analysis was based on
two samples of Nakhla that he had, 0.5 grams apiece.  Back then, they were narrowing
down the possibilities of the parent body for the SNCs.  They had pretty much ruled out
asteroids and the Moon. Though his article did not specifically mention Mars as
a candidate, he did say in the article that the parent body for Nakhla was
a planetary body in the solar system close to terrestrial composition.

Ron Baalke

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Re: [meteorite-list] Is This Lunar?

[Randy Mils]

Hey Pal. 

Why dont' you go bother some other list with your crappy rocks.  You have a lot of guts to think that you can find meteorites everytime you walk out the door.  And you even have the guts to suggest it is Lunar.  Get a life clown.
Randy


>From: "DiamondMeteor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Is This Lunar? 
>Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:33:35 +0400 
> 
>Hiii All; 
>I just found this rock today. It has a fusion crust thick from one side and thin from the other. it is white/gray from inside. 
>Please have a look: 
>http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/cn/ln.htm 
> 
>Best Regards 
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[meteorite-list] Comets C/2002 A1 (LINEAR) & C/2002 A2 (LINEAR)

[Ron Baalke]

IAU Circular 7788 released today reports on the discovery of a pair of
interesting comets: C/2002 A1 (LINEAR) and C/2002 A2 (LINEAR).
They were both discovered near
Jupiter and in almost identical orbits.  Though the 
circular doesn't state as such, it seems very apparent to me that the 
two new objects are the result of a comet breakup, perhaps caused by
their near-Jupiter flyby (around 0.4 AU) last summer.

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[meteorite-list] Covered Thin section sale

[dean bessey]

I had some Thin sections with cover slips made up. I had planned to start 
"bessey ebay Thin section Thursday" with them to go along with my thin 
section sundays but I got them to late as it is to close to tucson to start 
auctions anymore.
I am trying to raise cash for a big purchase for Tucson so they are super 
cheap. But they are cheaper to make if they have cover slips anyway. You 
should like these. They turned out really nice.
Unlike the other ones that i sell you couldent use these to classify a 
meteorite
See Here
http://www.meteoriteshop.com/thin-cover-sale.htm
postage is $2 for one and $3 for two or more. express tracable shipping is 
$8.
All are one of a kind so first come first served but payment by paypal is 
preferred and billpoint second. A check is Ok to.
I dont have time to make photos so I just did a list of what I have.
cheers
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[meteorite-list] SE North America Coastal Impact Survey

[E.P. Grondine]

Hello everyone -

I think some of you might enjoy this little essay of
mine:
 
http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/ce010702.html

Sorry to hear about Darryl.  I've had to stop
receiving meteorite list notes for quite a while now,
and will suspend again shortly, but I am looking
forward to re-subscribing to it a few months down the
road.   

I tried sending this off to Donald Blakeslee, but his
old e-mail address is not working and I could not find
a new one in the archive - Anybody know where he is?

Best wishes, 
EP

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Re: [meteorite-list] Is This Lunar?

[Randy Mils]

WHAT A CLOWN !
Come on Pal.  Why dont' you go bother some other list.  I think there is a pie-in-the-sky-dreamers group that you would fit in with just fine.
What makes you think that everytime you walk out of your house the first rock you find is not only a meteorite but it is a Lunar Meteorite?  Go play the lottery, you have a better chance.
Please just go away and leave us alone.
Randy

>From: "DiamondMeteor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Is This Lunar? 
>Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:33:35 +0400 
> 
>Hiii All; 
>I just found this rock today. It has a fusion crust thick from one side and thin from the other. it is white/gray from inside. 
>Please have a look: 
>http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/cn/ln.htm 
> 
>Best Regards 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is This Lunar?

[Tom]

Looks like sandstone. We got something like that around in Michigan water
coast. I don¹t know where you found it. It looks like a clay-sand mixed
covered with dirt or mud, correct me if this isnt like any sandstone.

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AW: [meteorite-list] Is This Lunar?

[Norbert Classen]

Hi 
Mohamed,
 
You're 
getting closer to what a meteorite should look like. However, I think 
you
just 
found another typical example of a meteorwrong. The "fusion crust" 
seems
to be 
desert varnish, so I doubt that this rock has ever been in space. 
Sorry,
but I 
don't think that it's a meteorite at all.
 
Don't 
feel too bad, though. Very few people had the luck to find a lunar 
meteorite
so 
far. Just imagine the following: More than 25,000 meteorites have been 
recognized
up to 
this day, and just about 25 have proven to be of lunar origin. That's just about 

one 
of thousand...
 
Best 
regards,
Norbert Classen aka "The Lunatic"
 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von 
  DiamondMeteorGesendet: Freitag, 11. Januar 2002 
  16:34An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Betreff: 
  [meteorite-list] Is This Lunar?
  Hiii All;
  I just found this rock today. It has a fusion 
  crust thick from one side and thin from the other. it is white/gray from 
  inside.
  Please have a look:
  http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/cn/ln.htm
   
  Best Regards
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is This Lunar?

[Matt Morgan]

Looks like sandstone with a rind of desert varnish to 
me.
Matt

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  DiamondMeteor 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:33 
  AM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Is This 
  Lunar?
  
  Hiii All;
  I just found this rock today. It has a fusion 
  crust thick from one side and thin from the other. it is white/gray from 
  inside.
  Please have a look:
  http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/cn/ln.htm
   
  Best Regards
  Mohamed
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Re: [meteorite-list] Gold Basin

[almitt]

Hi Rhett and all,

Recently while cutting some Dimmitt slices I ran into a CM  inclusion. It spanned four
slices! This
measured 13 mm by 12 mm by about 16 mm long. I asked Dr. Rubin if he would be
interested in the piece and he is interested in seeing a thinsection of it. I'll send
a picture file to someone who can post it on their web site for all to see
(Rhett?).

This is truly an awesome piece and one of the reasons I think that Dimmitt is one of
the most over looked interesting meteorites of all times.

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[meteorite-list] Is This Lunar?

[DiamondMeteor]

Hiii All;
I just found this rock today. It has a fusion crust 
thick from one side and thin from the other. it is white/gray from 
inside.
Please have a look:
http://pages.britishlibrary.net/mhy10/meteor/cn/ln.htm
 
Best Regards
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Re: [meteorite-list] SaharaMet, 2001 expedition photos

[Dave Mouat]

I guess we can say that Dean has vented, a fact

dean bessey wrote:

> >Richard & Roland Pelisson - SaharaMet wrote:
> (1)to discuss about serious meteorite prospecting work and results on this
> mailing.
> and
> (2)it seems that only NWA business is welcome
> >
> Would you mind telling us exactly what it is that you are trying to imply
> with these two comments?
> I read it as you are doing serious scientific work and are out into the
> Sahara to collect scientific data like a NASA scientists who has to give all
> of the meteorites that he finds to the government would do (Since he would
> be there on a government paid research assignment and getting a salary at
> the same time). And its not to earn money so that you dont end up living in
> the streets in some slum area of paris with the local junkies and that the
> rest of us are raping and "plundering" the sahara.
> But I am sure that that is not what you ment.
> DEAN
> >
>
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> Planet Mars or the Moon. You just have to visit the Meteorite Shop.
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Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Opinion about strange meteorite

[Michael Blood]

Gotta say, John,
That is one very nice phenomenon. 
Best wishes, Michael
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John Gwilliam wrote:
> 
> Bob and List,
> 
> "ventifact - n. a pebble or cobble that has been faceted, grooved, and
> polished by the erosive action of wind-driven sand."
> 
> If you would like to see a picture of a really outstanding one, follow this
> link.
> 
> http://www.meteoriteimpact.com/ventifac.htm
> 
> This ventifact is located in the Geology Department at Arizona State
> University in Tempe, Arizona.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Gwilliam
> 
> At 03:22 PM 1/10/02 -0800, Robert Verish wrote:
> >I don't speak Vincent's language, so could someone
> >else explain to him what a "ventifact" is?
> >
> >Bob V.
> >
> >- Original Message ---
> >AW: [meteorite-list] Opinion about strange meteorite
> >
> >Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:08:38 +0100
> >
> >Norbert Classen wrote:
> >
> > > http://users.skynet.be/meteorite.be/keskecest.html
> >
> > > Especially the ME08 looks nice and has a good chance
> >
> > > to qualify as a meteorright - however, don't ask me
> > > what kind of meteorite it might be. My first
> > > impression was that it might represent some type of
> > > carbonaceous chondrite, a CK or more likely a CO,
> >but
> > > since it is stated that it contains NO carbon NOR
> >any > metal I really don't know...
> >
> >Nor do I. But the reassembled pieces look like the
> >lower trunk of a pyramid - in other words: if it is a
> >meteorite it may have been oriented with the upper
> >part of the pyramid still missing and Vince's
> >description
> >plus the chocolate-like coating (see NWA 482)
> >reminiscent of flow lines leads me to a very audacious
> >assumption:
> >
> >Could that be another lunar meteorite???
> >
> >Best assumptions,
> >Bernd
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