Re: [meteorite-list] Elemantary School Boy Finds Meteorite in hisschoolyard!!
Thanks for posting that Richard! That is indeed extremely cool and what an amazing story! Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:06 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Elemantary School Boy Finds Meteorite in hisschoolyard!! After a presentation at a elementary school located within the Livingston strewnfield, the kids headed outside for recess. One boy actually found a meteorite while the TV cameras were still there. Watch the story here: http://tinyurl.com/27urhqj Now THAT is cool! -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Elemantary School Boy Finds Meteorite inhis schoolyard!!
Hiya, The idea was to embrace the two counties where most of the activity occurred which also happens to be the name of the school. Yes, there have been finds in Grant County (which contains Livingston). All best / darryl On Apr 22, 2010, at 8:54 PM, mlangen wrote: A good idea ... except, by some estimates, it is just possible the strewnfield could extend into Lafayette County, as well. Mark P.S. Have any of the finds to date actually been made in Grant County? - Original Message - From: Fries, Marc D (3225) marc.d.fr...@jpl.nasa.gov To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elemantary School Boy Finds Meteorite inhis schoolyard!! Solves the problem of multiple Livingstons as well. Cheers, Marc Fries On Apr 22, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Darryl Pitt wrote: Might I suggest memorializing the same and naming this fall Iowa- Grant in honor of all those involved in the outreach at the school of the same name, which conveniently also happens to be the names of two of the counties in which the meteorite fell. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 23, 2010
Rob,Michael: Beautiful image of Wi. fall,amazing!! Thanks for posting. Herman Archer IMCA # 2770 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: New Lunars
Dear colleagues conscripts: This (below) might be a great opportunity to obtain lunar meteorite from a witnessed fall. Seeing that my correspondent didn't send me any photos, you might be able to find some on his web site. http://uncometeorites.shutterfly.com/ soon to retire to my home state of Wisconsin to look for meteorites, Randy Korotev Saint Louis, MO === Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:28:59 -0600 Subject: New Lunars From: Steve Curry cwhei...@gmail.com To: Randy Korotev koro...@wustl.edu Koretev; As much as I really do not like you as a person, or as a professional authority, you are entitled to know that I have located and recovered a second Lunar dispersion field in North America, from a fireball witnessed by three individuals in February of 2009. It's taken some time, but I've documented all aspects of this bolide and am 110% certain it is of lunar origin. I realize, you have put the word out to all of your colleagues conscripts not to accept specimens from me, and to reject, refute and denounce this finding. All you have done, however, is to make your retirement dreams come true. I hope you like Canon City in the winter time. It's supposed to be real nice that time of year. Because I like you so little, I'm not sending you single photo of your treasured Lunars. You can spend the rest of your days just wondering what I have recovered. Steve === __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: New Lunars
I offered to trade him some pixie dust and the Brooklyn Bridge for his lunars, but no reply yet. ;) On 4/23/10, Randy Korotev koro...@wustl.edu wrote: Dear colleagues conscripts: This (below) might be a great opportunity to obtain lunar meteorite from a witnessed fall. Seeing that my correspondent didn't send me any photos, you might be able to find some on his web site. http://uncometeorites.shutterfly.com/ soon to retire to my home state of Wisconsin to look for meteorites, Randy Korotev Saint Louis, MO === Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:28:59 -0600 Subject: New Lunars From: Steve Curry cwhei...@gmail.com To: Randy Korotev koro...@wustl.edu Koretev; As much as I really do not like you as a person, or as a professional authority, you are entitled to know that I have located and recovered a second Lunar dispersion field in North America, from a fireball witnessed by three individuals in February of 2009. It's taken some time, but I've documented all aspects of this bolide and am 110% certain it is of lunar origin. I realize, you have put the word out to all of your colleagues conscripts not to accept specimens from me, and to reject, refute and denounce this finding. All you have done, however, is to make your retirement dreams come true. I hope you like Canon City in the winter time. It's supposed to be real nice that time of year. Because I like you so little, I'm not sending you single photo of your treasured Lunars. You can spend the rest of your days just wondering what I have recovered. Steve === __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] School Children Video on CNN today.....
I filmed it with my camera and uploaded it to youtube. It is different than the other ones posted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxe8ct8QpJU Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: New Lunars
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:48:26 -0500, you wrote: http://uncometeorites.shutterfly.com/ Well, the guy DOES appear to be a lunar-tic, so he may be on to something! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Notes on the history of the Asteroid Underground
Hi all - Some of you may be interested in this. good hunting, all, E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas HISTORY OF THE ASTEROID UNDERGROUND: MANNED MISSION TO ASTEROID NEAR and Hayabusa showed asteroid rendezvous possible some of them move slow relative to the Earth Bob Farquhar, mission designer for NEAR Shoemaker 1999 - the late Steve Ostro identified 1999 KY26 Mars-Earth cycling asteroid, proposed its use for manned Mars flight (E.P. Grondine, http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/ce090699.html) Wesley Huntress - L2 and DPT(?) also favored by Ed Weiler impactor detection telescopes could be set up there instead on of the Moon 2001 Asteroid Underground set up by Astronaut Ed Lu, Piet Hut (Michael Klesius, http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/Million_Mile_Mission.html) DECEMBER, 2005 George Brown Jr. amendment passed by Congress 2006 - By the summer of 2006, Ed Lu, Tom Jones, and Dave Korsmeyer, an engineer at NASA’s Ames Research Center who specializes in celestial mechanics, were conferring regularly with more than a dozen colleagues around the country, asking about the capabilities of Constellation and writing papers. Monthly meetings begin in August, 2006 Target identified: 1999 AO10, is the size of a football field. It could be reached in 2025. (Michael Klesius, http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/Million_Mile_Mission.html) 2006 - Ed Lu and Chris McKay - with Constellation launchers several centers, response to George Brown Jr amendment of December, 2005 (Leonard David, http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/061227_asteroid_orion.html 2007 - Rob Landis, JSC, also mentions 1999 KY26 Rusty Schweikart, David Morrison aware (Dawn Stover, http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-space/article/2007-10/nasas-new-target 2008 - Astronaut Tom Jones becomes involved, endorsed by lead Mars enthusiast Bob Zubrin (Michael Klesius, http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/Million_Mile_Mission.html) February, 2008 - Planetary Society hosts conference (Michael Klesius, http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/Million_Mile_Mission.html) 2008 - Boeing, Chicago office or via Lori Garver to Obama(?) 2009 - 2 Orion variant manned asteroid mission from Lockheed Martin (Augustine) Orion supports telescopes at L2 (Criag Covault, http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0908/17orion/) April, 2010 Obama sets manned landing on asteroid by 2025 as NASA's next goal BUT why the new Heavy Jupiter 242 with LOX/kerosene boosters? Chances of passage good: Schwassmann Wachmann 3's next pass on other side of solar system late in 2011. SW3 IMPACT THREAT - Debris stream some 6 million kilometers long, WILL PASS THROUGH INNER SOAR SYSTEM EVERY 5.43 TO 5.46 YEARS FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES Jupiter's gravity will change orbit. SW3 passes through plane of our solar system (from ascending node to descending node) right at Earth's orbit. Gravity forces appear to cause fragmentation. CLOSE INTERSECTS 2022 AND 2049 - EFFECTS UNKNOWN NOW. 58 FRAGMENTS NOW - Dr. William T. Reach of NASA's Spitzer Science Center 64 PIECES - Andre Claydon director of observation at the Springbrook Observatory Some fragments now lost to observation - need for better NEO telescopes. Curious - China announces March 3, 2010, after Obama and Hu meet: LONG MARCH 8 - 3 LONG MARCH 5's strapped together and LONG MARCH 9 - 5 LONG MARCH 5's strapped together for development after 2015 Speculation abounds that they are being prepared to deal with fragments of Comet Schwassmann Wachmann 3 in 2022 or asteroid Apophis in 2036. Obama set manned landing on asteroid for 2025 as NASA's next goal in space, which makes dealing with SW3 comet fragments in 2022 feasible. “would demonstrate once and for all that we’re smarter than the dinosaurs and could therefore avoid what they didn’t”, White House science adviser John Holdren said [New Scientist]. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: New Lunars
Wow! I'm not sure where this guy lives, but I would assume that he resides close to a river bank! I have about 18 tons of that stuff in my back yard! Ha! Actually I gave Bob Haag a coaster that I made out of a river rock that looks more lunar that this fella's stuff... We can just hope that a future meteorite fan doesn't get burned. Dennis P.S. If anyone searching in Livingston happens to search the Rock Church Cemetery, my Wife would like a photo of F.Hugh Livingston And maybe Grace Livingston's gravesite. They are her Great Great Grandparents. Thanks! From: cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:34:33 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: New Lunars On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:48:26 -0500, you wrote: http://uncometeorites.shutterfly.com/ Well, the guy DOES appear to be a lunar-tic, so he may be on to something! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - ebay auctions ending on Saturday
Dear Fellow Listees, Our ebay auctions ending on Saturday can be seen at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZmeteoriteshow They include: 1- Ain Ouinet (unclass.) CV3 - 6.6g slice Slice #7, weighing 6.6g, dimensions ~45x29x2mm. Diplays part of 1 huge CAI among others and 1 DARK INCLUSION. Sharply defined chondrules. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330424589234 2- Al Haggounia 001 PRIM. AUB - 14.1g endcut Endcut #02 weighing 14.1g, dimensions 61x24x12mm. Cut in one of the freshest framents of Al Haggounia 001 Displays an interesting oxysized vein. STILL AT $1.00 STARTING PRICE! NO BID YET!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330424590340 3- NWA 052 (Kem-Kem) L5 - 10.6g endpiece Endpiece weighing 10.6g, Dimensions: 51x15x8mm Displays THICK FUSION CRUST on one end (see pictures). http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330424592054 4- NWA 859 (Taza) IRON UNGR. - 2.6g oriented weighing 2.6g, dimensions ~19x7x5mm. SEE PICTURE (shipped in a display box) STILL AT $1.00 STARTING PRICE, NO BID YET!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330424593775 5- SAH 02500 L3 - 28.3g endcut Endcut weighing 28.3g, dimensions: 60x25x20mm. Split in 2 pieces (20g + 8.3g). Typical structure of SAH 02500 diplaying 2 lithologies with nice chondrules. Polished cut section. STILL AT $1.00 STARTING PRICE! NO BID YET!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330424595378 6- SAH 02501 - EUCRITE - 7.8g 16pces lot Lot of 16 partslices endcuts - Total weight: 7.8g SOME WITH FUSION CRUST Unusual blue-grey colour, fresh meteorite. STILL AT $1.00 STARTING PRICE! NO BID YET!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330424598004 Thank you very much for watching and best wishes to ALL BIDDERS!!! Kind regards, Frederic Beroud http://www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA member # 2491 (http://www.imca.cc/) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: New Lunars
A text book example of Monomaniacal Meteoritical Delusional Syndrome. Right up there with Mitch Minor and the Taiwanese blood vessel guy. A couple of weeks ago a guy came into the museum with some of his latest strewnfield finds. They included a lunar, a martian, 5 different types of chondrites, and 2 different irons, along with assorted prehistoric Indian artifacts that looked remarkably like rusty farm implement parts. All this in one 40 acre field! Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: New Lunars
good for rock collections, what a diverse range of rocks. sure didn't see anything that came from beyond the surface of the earth though. On 4:43:06 pm 04/23/10 Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com wrote: Wow! I'm not sure where this guy lives, but I would assume that he resides close to a river bank! I have about 18 tons of that stuff in my back yard! Ha! Actually I gave Bob Haag a coaster that I made out of a river rock that looks more lunar that this fella's stuff... We can just hope that a future meteorite fan doesn't get burned. Dennis P.S. If anyone searching in Livingston happens to search the Rock Church Cemetery, my Wife would like a photo of F.Hugh Livingston And maybe Grace Livingston's gravesite. They are her Great Great Grandparents. Thanks! From: cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:34:33 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: New Lunars On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:48:26 -0500, you wrote: http://uncometeorites.shutterfly.com/ Well, the guy DOES appear to be a lunar-tic, so he may be on to something! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list- archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T :WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-arc hives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: article about meteorite west of Mineral point
Radar shows it much bigger than eight miles; I put it at 14x11 miles at a minimum. This one made a mess! Cheers, Marc Fries On Apr 23, 2010, at 1:36 AM, Jeff Kuyken wrote: Hi all, Mike Farmer asked me to forward this to the list regarding the stone West of Mineral Point. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: meteoritehun...@comcast.net To: i...@meteorites.com.au Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:03 AM Subject: article about meteorite west of Mineral point The guy found a meteorite, many hunters saw him and it, he then stole it by fleeing the land without paying for half as he had agreed to the landowner. The other hunters were then kicked off the land. It was west of mineral point, a few miles. The strewnfield is now known well over 8 miles, certainly much longer. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Livingston catches hold of meteorite fever
I found the video report that is being run on CNN today. It isn't yet on the CNN site (as far as I can tell) but this is the same report without the CNN tags. (Watch the url wrap) http://www.necn.com/04/23/10/Livingston-catches-hold-of-meteorite-fev/landing_scitech.html?blockID=221795feedID=4213 It is also the same that Jim Strope posted earlier today, but a bit better quality. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Livingston catches hold of meteorite fever
Good afternoon Folks, That video clip is absolutely cute, at the end!!! Best regards, Paul Martyn, Savannah, GA In a message dated 4/23/2010 12:54:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, damoc...@yahoo.com writes: I found the video report that is being run on CNN today. It isn't yet on the CNN site (as far as I can tell) but this is the same report without the CNN tags. (Watch the url wrap) http://www.necn.com/04/23/10/Livingston-catches-hold-of-meteorite-fev/landin g_scitech.html?blockID=221795feedID=4213 It is also the same that Jim Strope posted earlier today, but a bit better quality. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Is Livingston to Wisconsin what Holbrook was to AZ?
Hi Listees! I was just pondering all of the attention that the new Wisconsin fall is getting, and it made me wonder about some comparisons. It seems to me that this fall has some things in common with Holbrook. Both were witnessed falls that captured a lot of attention at the time. Both were hammer falls. Both were widespread events with a large strewnfield and numerous seperate finds. Could this new fall continue to produce significant finds in coming years? It seems that this bolide came in at a shallow angle with multiple detonations, so we have a mess of meteorites waiting to be found out there, methinks. :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: April 19-23 2010
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES April 19-23 2010 o Melas Chasma (19 April 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100419a o Memnonia Sulci (20 April 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100420a o Terra Cimmeria Dunes (21 April 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100421a o Kasei Valles (22 April 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100422a o Melas Chasma (23 April 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100423a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - April 21, 2010
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES April 21, 2010 o Icy Craters on Mars http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_016954_2245 o Chain of Pits on Arsia Mons http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_016978_1730 o Anaglyph: Chain of Dust-Filled Pits on Arsia Mons http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/anaglyph/singula.php?ID=ESP_017189_1730 o Cluster of Secondary Impact Craters http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_017244_2050 o Mound of South Polar Layered Deposits http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_002345_1095 All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is Livingston to Wisconsin what Holbrook was to AZ?
Holbrook's strewn field was only a mile in length by half a mile wide. This field is much bigger! The meteorites should be hidden for many years to come. The only reason Holbrook can still be found today is because the stones penetrated six inches into the soft soil. I don't think the trajectory was as harsh for this field. The trick will be finding where they are hiding! If anyone is planning on heading to WI after May please contact me off list! [Erik] Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:04:19 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Is Livingston to Wisconsin what Holbrook was to AZ? Hi Listees! I was just pondering all of the attention that the new Wisconsin fall is getting, and it made me wonder about some comparisons. It seems to me that this fall has some things in common with Holbrook. Both were witnessed falls that captured a lot of attention at the time. Both were hammer falls. Both were widespread events with a large strewnfield and numerous seperate finds. Could this new fall continue to produce significant finds in coming years? It seems that this bolide came in at a shallow angle with multiple detonations, so we have a mess of meteorites waiting to be found out there, methinks. :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wold Cottage 'meteorite homecoming'
Martin was kind enough to send me a couple of images of the presentation, I've put them up on the British and Irish Meteorite Society site at: http://www.bimsociety.org/article-wold.shtml Matt. bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Hello Martin G., Linton, and List, What a great story, Martin. A truly great story! Kudos to Dave for his extraordinary generosity and to you for your noble effort. I agree 100% ! I was not familiar with Wold Cottage, but is on my acquisition list now. Wold Cottage is hard to get :-( Best wishes from the proud owner of a tiny 0.068-gram fragment. It is a very special piece because it was a gift from Jake Delgaudio back in December 2000. The list gurus will surely remember Jake! Linton and List, here is some background info on Wold Cottage from U.B. Marvin: MARVIN U.B. (1996) Chladni and the origins of modern meteorite research (MAPS 31-5, 1996, 545-588): Wold Cottage, England, December 1795, pp. 560-561: At 3:30 on Sunday afternoon 1795 December 13, a 56 pound stone fell at Wold Cottage in Yorkshire. The sky was overcast. Suddenly, several persons in the area were startled by something whizzing through the air followed by a series of explosions. A laborer looked up just in time to see a black stone emerge from the clouds and plunge into the soil about 30 feet from where he stood. The ground shook and mud and sod flew up all around him. Rushing to the spot he found a large stone, warm and smoking and smelling of sulfur. It had penetrated twelve inches of soil and six inches of the underlying limestone. When Captain Edward Topham (1751-1820), the landowner and a flamboyant pamphleteer, editor, and playwright, returned from a visit to London, he obtained sworn statements from the three eyewitnesses and interviewed numerous persons who had heard sounds and felt concussions. Topham arranged to exhibit the stone in Piccadilly, London, across the street from the much-frequented Gloucester Coffee House (Pillinger and Pillinger, 1996). He prepared a handbill with an engraving of the stone and a description of the fall to be given to those who paid the entrance fee of one shilling. There, Sir Joseph Banks saw the stone and acquired a sample, possibly from Captain Topham himself. In 1797, Topham published the text of his handbill and the engraving of the stone (Fig. 12) in Gentlemen's Magazine (Topham, 1797). Two years later, he erected a brick monument over the site of fall and planted trees around it. Today, with the trees long gone, the weathered inscription still tells us that on this spot, on December 13, 1795, there fell from the atmosphere an extraordinary stone; 28 inches broad, 30 inches long, and weighing 56 pounds; the column in memory of it was erected by Edward Topham, 1799. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Length dust cloud in Wisconsin Doppler
Hi Marc, I put the Doppler radar linear extent of the Wisconsin fall at over 17 miles, but only about 3 miles wide at its widest. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mifflin Meteorite Strewnfield
How's this for a family outing: a visit to the Wisconsin Dells, including the new water park, then a hike around Devil's Lake, (just south of the Dells), an amazing place ringed with huge mounds of giant glacial drop boulders, then a meteorite hunt in the world famous Mifflin Meteorite Strewnfield! Fun for the whole family! On naming: I like the mellifluous sound of the Mifflin Meteorite. Also I'm a big fan of The Office! Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Happy Birthday Palolo Valley Auction
Aloha mai listoids and Aloha Friday to all, Happy Birthday to Palolo Valley H5, which fell in Hawaii April 24, 1949! Also congrats to all who have recovered pieces of the WI fall, and good luck to all those still in the field there. The Big Kahuna has some of the highest quality rocks from space on ebay in auctions ending Saturday, starting at 10:02 am Pacific / 1:02 pm Eastern / 6:02 pm London / 8:02 pm Helsinki / 1:02 am Singapore. Up for grabs are: NWA x Poss LL3 10.89g LAST SLICE of this unequilibrated stone NWA 6168 L3, 18.67g full slice w/ large clast, starting at $149 NWA 6169 L3.3, 11.47g full slice w/ nice chondrules now $89 NWA 6170 L/LL3.3, 8.57g full slice transitional stone, only $59 Kem Kem 16, 16.44g polished half stone, predates NWAs, now $20 NWA 4851 L4 126g stunning half stone, fresh crust, starting $125 Buzzard Coulee H4, 14.23g fresh fall stone w/ export papers! Zag H3-6 25.84g slice of the freshest material, what? only $40 Allende CV3 - The bestest, freshest material on ebay bar none! Camel Donga Euc, 1.08, 4.92g AAA glossy crust from only $3 Taza (NWA 859) Irung, 1.72g sculped with rollover lipping, $1 ... and much more, like Bassikounou, Chergach, Gao, NWA 3118, NWA x possible CV3, NWA x Pal, Admire, Vaca Muerta, Toufassour, Imilac, Henbury and many quality unclassified and NWA 869 stones. Find em all here: http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html Sorry, no Palolo Valley for sale ... all are sequestered in University of Hawaii :o\ Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wold Cottage 'meteorite homecoming'
Hi all, Thanks to everyone for your kind comments both on and off list but it is really Dave that needs the kudos for this, i was only the facilitator. The bottom line however is that a piece of Wold Cottage is now on display back home and this means a lot to Derek and Katrina and every visitor to the Wold Cottage in the future. Quite a result! Thanks again Martin On 22 April 2010 22:56, Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net wrote: What a great story, Martin. Looks like a very interesting place to visit. Kudos to Dave for his extraordinary generosity, and to you for your noble effort. I was not familiar with Wold Cottage, but is on my acquisition list now. Linton - Original Message - From: martin goff msgmeteori...@googlemail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Wold Cottage 'meteorite homecoming' Hi all, Just thought i would give the list a heads up on a recent event that happened over here in the UK concerning the Wold Cottage meteorite. The owners of the historic Wold Cottage are now proudly able to display a piece of the famous meteorite itself after many years of searching with no success. This story has taken quite a few months to unfold and started last summer when myself and my family stayed at the Wold Cottage currently owned by Derek and Katrina Gray. Although they have lots of historic photos and memorabilia i was astounded to discover that they didn't have a piece of the stone itself. I thought this was very sad indeed and said i would keep a look out for them and after a few months found a piece being offered for trade by Dave Gheesling. I approached Dave with Derek and Katrina's story and Dave was not only willing to part with the specimen but he offered to donate it to them for free! Now, i know that Dave is a very modest chap and doesnt want to make a song and dance about this but i think that the story needs sharing (Larry, i am writing the article at the moment!!) I am sure that everyone will agree that it was a very generous gesture with the end result being that a piece of this important and historic fall is now being displayed in its proper home! As i played the part of the middle man in all of this i thought that the least i could do was to arrange to get the specimen properly framed and present the framing to Derek and Katrina on Daves behalf. I did this last Friday and Derek and Katrina are absoutely delighted and over the moon to finally have a piece back home! The story has atrracted quite a bit of press attention and i was thrust into quite a media circus when i attended last week (all good fun though and i quite enjoyed it all to be honest!) I was interviewed for BBC Radio and TV and am pleased that the story has generated postive press for meteorite collectors. See Daves website for more info and some additional links to articles online: (http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/WoldCottage.htm) Also the British and Irish Meteorite society (BIMS) has a short write up in the news section: (http://www.bimsociety.org) Cheers Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Off Topic - Iceland Volcano Videos
G'Day Paul and list Stunning images here http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/04/more_from_eyjafjallajokull.html Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul H. Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:27 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Off Topic - Iceland Volcano Videos Dear Friends, There are some nice videos of the Iceland volcanic eruptions on Youtube. They include: Iceland volcano eruption March 2010 - New footage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHPQZQGKJ5M Raw Video: Volcano on Iceland Glacier Erupts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZTcxMMgkhw Volcano eruption in Iceland. 24.03.2010. Day 4. After sunset. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xB8TAwHyrA Iceland volcano eruption March 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwdOH9GayVw Volcano Eruption in Eyjafjallajökull Iceland 21 Mars 2010 (HQ) Video 1 of 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w89a2t5O9UY Volcano Eruption in Eyjafjallajökull Iceland (HD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lINmtRiWQ7Q Iceland Volcano Eruption - FIRST Close UPs - Impressive to see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I27YYEVdN9c Volcano eruption in Eyjafjallajökull, Iceland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNN9XR8WnaM The volcanic eruption is bringing out the expected weirdness and strangeness such as: Volcano ** GODS WRATH ON EUROPE ? BEGINNING OF THE END ? DOOMSDAY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZKeIcWhtRsf I imagine that the 2012 end-of-world authors will find some way to use this eruption to promote and make money with their brand of pseudoscience. Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Racist website using List images
It saddens me to report that a racist white-supremacist website is using some images taken from members of this list. It is probably safe to assume that these images are being used without permission of their owners. I found this website while Googling lawrencite disease, and surprisingly the ninth result down on the first page of results is a racist forum website. A lengthy discussion about iron meteorites includes some images posted by members of the website. Some of these images should look familiar to list members. I thought the owners of these images would like to be aware of this image use. Here is a link to the Google Search - http://www.google.com/search?q=lawrencite+disease Direct link to the offensive website - (beware, repugnant racist content) - http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=223676page=2 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Racist website using List images
In the tone of Monty Python, Life of Brian. What I wouldn't give for a racist web site to be using my pictures. While the racist site use is bad, at least they seemed to be talking about meteorites. The nut that said I found a house fly in a Martian Meteorite has finally recanted and conceded it was Contamination. I am beyond just mad. It was a photo of a fly! That's all! I didn't accidentally let a fly get in my meteorite picture! He is now posting Mr. Tom Phillips shows ET muscle fiber remains - and As I said before, Mr. Tom Phillips is the first person in history who shows clear images of fossilized muscle fibers found in meteorites. The following figures are marked for numerous petrified muscle fibers with nuclei, axon and end plate. The link is at http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology.paleo/browse_thread/thread/b2f6deda9a64e3ed/087b20a1476263cf?lnk=raot The muscle fibers are a barred chondrule in a Santa Vitoria do Palmar (L3) thin section. If this keeps up, I will also go down in history as one of the primary nuts of the early 21st century. Sucked right along with this goof. Tom In a message dated 4/23/2010 3:06:52 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, octahedr...@gmail.com writes: It saddens me to report that a racist white-supremacist website is using some images taken from members of this list. It is probably safe to assume that these images are being used without permission of their owners. I found this website while Googling lawrencite disease, and surprisingly the ninth result down on the first page of results is a racist forum website. A lengthy discussion about iron meteorites includes some images posted by members of the website. Some of these images should look familiar to list members. I thought the owners of these images would like to be aware of this image use. Here is a link to the Google Search - http://www.google.com/search?q=lawrencite+disease Direct link to the offensive website - (beware, repugnant racist content) - http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=223676page=2 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] low life on the meteorite list
Dirk, You are the man! I agree with the others that your site is greatly appreciated, extremely informative, and 1st class all the way!--Its true tho, there is always a bad apple or two. I've had my own recent bad experience in Lancaster--don't wanna say much yet, but I too have found evil among us! It sucks when ya think that perhaps we are all friends -either directly or indirectly, and then some low-down dirty sorry a-s turns around and makes ya lose faith and question the moral fiber of others that share in the interest. Though I wont let it eat at me, it was just very disappointing to see another meteorite hunter stoop so darn low. I feel ya! But we cant let the ethically and morally challenged bring us down Keep fightin the good fight! Karma WILL SURELY get em' in the end,--Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Famous Wisconsin Meteorite for sale
Hi all, I am considering selling this 25 gram Wisconsin stone as I didn't find it and am not sure if it needs to be in my collection - as a general rule I only keep stones I find. This meteorite is the one I have in my hand/cane in two of the three newspapers from Wisconsin (one Madison and one Milwaukee). Please take a look at the newspaper links on my site and see the photos of this 25 gram stone (be sure to click on newspapers links to the photos.) http://www.mr-meteorite.net/wisconsinmeteoritehunt.htm I'm wondering if I should keep it or sell it. Anyone interested send me your best offer. If the offer is sweet enough I will sell, if not then I will likely keep it. All three newspapers are included in this deal as well as photos of hunt/find if you'd like. Email off list please and we can talk. -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New book on SETI
Hi all, My friend Paul Davies the famous scientist (whom I met when he, Laurence Garvie and I hunted meteorites together) Sent me this link to his new book on SETI and it has just been reviewed in New York Times and is getting lots of other publicity. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/21/books/21book.html?ref=books I have kept in touch with him and Pauline (his wife) as they are very interested in what we do. Just thought someone would be interested. -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] X37B Orbital Bomber
List, I post because this unmanned orbital bomber uses passive meteor like weapons to destroy terrestrial targets at cosmic velocities. I was formerly Director of Aviation Facilities for the Hughes Tool Company in the late 60's and an old pilot friend with high field grade USAF and NASA connections sent the communication below. The X37B using an Atlas V booster was sent up yesterday. I was told by another NASA type that five years ago somebody in the Pentagon responsible for USAF weapons development saw an It Came From Outer Space movie and got the idea to use man made impactors to destroy targetslike the errant asteroids in the movie. NASA had this hypersonic craft already under development, transferred it to the USAF in 2006, and re-engineered it to carry multiple impactors and guidance. Star Wars has arrived. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 Farouk, I believe you are referring to the X37B reusable space plane that was launched on the 21st four hours after DARPA's Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle went up. I'm not briefed in on either so can talk freely. However, it's like relating the contents of a letter I haven't read. We have long needed something like the Global Hawk, but lingering in space and having additional capability; something that can take stuff up, maneuver while up there, place satellites, pick up satellites and move them or even bring them home. GPS and com satellites are a huge requirement as well as all the secret stuff that's required to be up there. Originally, the space shuttle was going to do these things but it never panned out. Reportably the 37B will be capable of station times of 9 months or longer. Don't see why it couldn't eventually stay much longer since they don't need to take a supply of MM's to reward the navigators. Also, there's the weaponization angle. From space, one only needs to hit a target: no explosive required. A pound or so of depleted uranium dropped from space and goodbye battleship, building or whatever. A hypersonic ball, dropped from space and landing on the centerline of Tehran airport would send a stark message. A Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle could strike anywhere in the world without warning. On the test shot they are maneuvering hypersonic and that's just in the Glide phase. What is cleverly not said here is how fast was it going under power? They will complete the test by dunking it into the ocean at more than 13,000 miles an hour. A wet sponge at 13,000 miles per would hit like an atomic weapon. 13,000 mph = about Mach 17 Cheers, Shack __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] low-life
I'm sorry, didn't mean to dangle that tidbit out there. I am looking to confront this person face to face (or at least thru the police) before I go blabbin' my obviously huge mouth. Suffice it to say his actions were not only extremely dangerous and CRIMINAL, but downright offensive and appauling to all that is decent in the world of meteorite hunting. Acts that reflect HORRIBLY on us all, and when the time comes, this person, this degenerate, will be exposed for his shameful dirty deeds. Please, for now, don't ask, I really cant say just yet, and now mostly regret posting anything even mentioning this, I was just feelin where Dirk was comin from, and threw in my two cents... But at the same time, I know this person is reading this, and I will say this to him... I know what you did, I know who you are. Don't think for a second that you got away with it! I am on to you, and the Pennsylvania State Police are onto you as well. I'm sorry folks, but there is evil among us! Just writing this doesn't feel right, so I'm shuttin my big trap already. All will be out in the open soon enough. Sorry.--M.A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wold Cottage 'meteorite homecoming'
Hello All, I've been in the air for a few days and haven't seen this thread yet, but I'd suspect that Martin's been his normal, classy self and given all of the credit away for something that was solely his doing. It was a very thoughtful bit of initiative on his part, and it's wonderful to be a tiny part of reinstalling some history where it belongs...all thanks to Martin. All the best, Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of martin goff Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:58 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wold Cottage 'meteorite homecoming' Hi all, Thanks to everyone for your kind comments both on and off list but it is really Dave that needs the kudos for this, i was only the facilitator. The bottom line however is that a piece of Wold Cottage is now on display back home and this means a lot to Derek and Katrina and every visitor to the Wold Cottage in the future. Quite a result! Thanks again Martin On 22 April 2010 22:56, Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net wrote: What a great story, Martin. Looks like a very interesting place to visit. Kudos to Dave for his extraordinary generosity, and to you for your noble effort. I was not familiar with Wold Cottage, but is on my acquisition list now. Linton - Original Message - From: martin goff msgmeteori...@googlemail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Wold Cottage 'meteorite homecoming' Hi all, Just thought i would give the list a heads up on a recent event that happened over here in the UK concerning the Wold Cottage meteorite. The owners of the historic Wold Cottage are now proudly able to display a piece of the famous meteorite itself after many years of searching with no success. This story has taken quite a few months to unfold and started last summer when myself and my family stayed at the Wold Cottage currently owned by Derek and Katrina Gray. Although they have lots of historic photos and memorabilia i was astounded to discover that they didn't have a piece of the stone itself. I thought this was very sad indeed and said i would keep a look out for them and after a few months found a piece being offered for trade by Dave Gheesling. I approached Dave with Derek and Katrina's story and Dave was not only willing to part with the specimen but he offered to donate it to them for free! Now, i know that Dave is a very modest chap and doesnt want to make a song and dance about this but i think that the story needs sharing (Larry, i am writing the article at the moment!!) I am sure that everyone will agree that it was a very generous gesture with the end result being that a piece of this important and historic fall is now being displayed in its proper home! As i played the part of the middle man in all of this i thought that the least i could do was to arrange to get the specimen properly framed and present the framing to Derek and Katrina on Daves behalf. I did this last Friday and Derek and Katrina are absoutely delighted and over the moon to finally have a piece back home! The story has atrracted quite a bit of press attention and i was thrust into quite a media circus when i attended last week (all good fun though and i quite enjoyed it all to be honest!) I was interviewed for BBC Radio and TV and am pleased that the story has generated postive press for meteorite collectors. See Daves website for more info and some additional links to articles online: (http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/WoldCottage.htm) Also the British and Irish Meteorite society (BIMS) has a short write up in the news section: (http://www.bimsociety.org) Cheers Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] X37B Orbital Bomber
Count, List, man-made impactors to destroy targets For this purpose, I favor Big Iron Arrows, sort of like Agincourt From Orbit. Tech improvement is unnecessary if the perfect technology already exists. Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: countde...@earthlink.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 7:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] X37B Orbital Bomber List, I post because this unmanned orbital bomber uses passive meteor like weapons to destroy terrestrial targets at cosmic velocities. I was formerly Director of Aviation Facilities for the Hughes Tool Company in the late 60's and an old pilot friend with high field grade USAF and NASA connections sent the communication below. The X37B using an Atlas V booster was sent up yesterday. I was told by another NASA type that five years ago somebody in the Pentagon responsible for USAF weapons development saw an It Came From Outer Space movie and got the idea to use man made impactors to destroy targetslike the errant asteroids in the movie. NASA had this hypersonic craft already under development, transferred it to the USAF in 2006, and re-engineered it to carry multiple impactors and guidance. Star Wars has arrived. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 Farouk, I believe you are referring to the X37B reusable space plane that was launched on the 21st four hours after DARPA's Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle went up. I'm not briefed in on either so can talk freely. However, it's like relating the contents of a letter I haven't read. We have long needed something like the Global Hawk, but lingering in space and having additional capability; something that can take stuff up, maneuver while up there, place satellites, pick up satellites and move them or even bring them home. GPS and com satellites are a huge requirement as well as all the secret stuff that's required to be up there. Originally, the space shuttle was going to do these things but it never panned out. Reportably the 37B will be capable of station times of 9 months or longer. Don't see why it couldn't eventually stay much longer since they don't need to take a supply of MM's to reward the navigators. Also, there's the weaponization angle. From space, one only needs to hit a target: no explosive required. A pound or so of depleted uranium dropped from space and goodbye battleship, building or whatever. A hypersonic ball, dropped from space and landing on the centerline of Tehran airport would send a stark message. A Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle could strike anywhere in the world without warning. On the test shot they are maneuvering hypersonic and that's just in the Glide phase. What is cleverly not said here is how fast was it going under power? They will complete the test by dunking it into the ocean at more than 13,000 miles an hour. A wet sponge at 13,000 miles per would hit like an atomic weapon. 13,000 mph = about Mach 17 Cheers, Shack __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] X37B Orbital Bomber
With all due respect to your old pilot friend, that sounds like a steaming pile of crap. Meteoids enter the atmosphere at a range of 11 to 72 KM/s (according to this, which excepts the Encyclopedia Britannica) http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/meteor.html At the lowest of LEOs, satellites travel at less than 8 KM/s, slower than the slowest meteoids (and of course, the higher the orbit, the lower the satellite.) You could be generous and call that cosmic velocity, I suppose. But even so, that passive impactor would act just like a real meteoroid-- it would lose all of it's velocity and finish it's fall going at nothing more than the normal terminal velocity it would have if you dropped it from a high-flying plane. To retain cosmic velocity, it would have to be HUGE. Remember the space shuttle Columbia burning up on reentry? Remember any of the big fragments of it destroying any towns? On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:40:27 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: List, I post because this unmanned orbital bomber uses passive meteor like weapons to destroy terrestrial targets at cosmic velocities. I was formerly Director of Aviation Facilities for the Hughes Tool Company in the late 60's and an old pilot friend with high field grade USAF and NASA connections sent the communication below. The X37B using an Atlas V booster was sent up yesterday. I was told by another NASA type that five years ago somebody in the Pentagon responsible for USAF weapons development saw an It Came From Outer Space movie and got the idea to use man made impactors to destroy targetslike the errant asteroids in the movie. NASA had this hypersonic craft already under development, transferred it to the USAF in 2006, and re-engineered it to carry multiple impactors and guidance. Star Wars has arrived. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 Farouk, I believe you are referring to the X37B reusable space plane that was launched on the 21st four hours after DARPA's Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle went up. I'm not briefed in on either so can talk freely. However, it's like relating the contents of a letter I haven't read. We have long needed something like the Global Hawk, but lingering in space and having additional capability; something that can take stuff up, maneuver while up there, place satellites, pick up satellites and move them or even bring them home. GPS and com satellites are a huge requirement as well as all the secret stuff that's required to be up there. Originally, the space shuttle was going to do these things but it never panned out. Reportably the 37B will be capable of station times of 9 months or longer. Don't see why it couldn't eventually stay much longer since they don't need to take a supply of MM's to reward the navigators. Also, there's the weaponization angle. From space, one only needs to hit a target: no explosive required. A pound or so of depleted uranium dropped from space and goodbye battleship, building or whatever. A hypersonic ball, dropped from space and landing on the centerline of Tehran airport would send a stark message. A Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle could strike anywhere in the world without warning. On the test shot they are maneuvering hypersonic and that's just in the Glide phase. What is cleverly not said here is how fast was it going under power? They will complete the test by dunking it into the ocean at more than 13,000 miles an hour. A wet sponge at 13,000 miles per would hit like an atomic weapon. 13,000 mph = about Mach 17 Cheers, Shack __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Unusual 29, 30Si-rich SiCs of Massive Star Origin Found Within Graphites from the Murchison Meteorite
Hello Listers, Here is an abstract and related articles I found tonight about Murchison meteorite and SiC, which are grains with highly unusual isotopic compositions, and these presolar grains are rare grains which are naturally of great interest because they permit to get insights into specific aspects of stellar nucleosynthesis and evolution. Title: Unusual 29,30Si-rich SiCs of Massive Star Origin Found Within Graphites from the Murchison Meteorite Authors: Croat, T. K.; Stadermann, F. J.; Bernatowicz, T. J. Affiliation: AA(Department of Physics and Laboratory for Space Science, Washington University, Campus Box 1105, One Brookings Drive, St. Louis, MO 63130-4899, USA), AB(Department of Physics and Laboratory for Space Science, Washington University, Campus Box 1105, One Brookings Drive, St. Louis, MO 63130-4899, USA), AC(Department of Physics and Laboratory for Space Science, Washington University, Campus Box 1105, One Brookings Drive, St. Louis, MO 63130-4899, USA) Publication: The Astronomical Journal, Volume 139, Issue 6, pp. 2159-2169 (2010). (AJ Homepage) Publication Date: 06/2010 Origin: IOP AJ Keywords: dust, extinction, nuclear reactions, nucleosynthesis, abundances, stars: Wolf-Rayet, supernovae: general DOI: 10.1088/0004-6256/139/6/2159 Bibliographic Code: 2010AJ139.2159C Abstract Correlated transmission electron microscopy and NanoSIMS isotopic studies have revealed two unusual SiCs with large 29,30Si enrichments within micron-sized graphites from the Murchison meteorite. Such anomalies are rare among the overall SiC population (in Lt0.01% of SiCs yet measured), whereas two of the three SiCs found within graphite show 29,30Si enrichments, in one case as large as 29Si/28Si = (2.28 ± 0.03) × solar and 30Si/28Si = (2.03 ± 0.03)× solar. C-burning and Ne-burning in massive stars (8 M sun initial mass) during their post-main-sequence development are the only processes capable of producing sufficiently large 29,30Si enrichments. This material with heavy Si isotopic enrichments from the O/Ne and O/Si layers is later incorporated into carbonaceous stardust, either in ejecta from Type II supernovae or perhaps in the colliding winds of Wolf-Rayet binaries. Although often too small for Si isotopic measurements, four other SiC-containing graphites show other signatures of a massive star origin. Abundance estimates suggest that such unusual SiCs are present within ~1% of high-density graphites. This abundance can be reconciled with the much lower abundance in the overall SiC population if these unusual SiCs are naturally smaller (~200 nm or less) than SiCs from other isotopic subgroups and if differential destruction of small unusual SiCs occurs in massive star outflows unless these SiCs are encapsulated in graphite. Other related articles linking Murchison and SiCs http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/LPSC98/pdf/1765.pdf http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2010/pdf/1082.pdf Here are types and characteristics of presolar grains found in meteorites. Type Size Concentration in Meteorites Sources Diamond (C) 1-5 nanometers 1000 parts per million Supernovae Silicon carbide (SiC) 0.1-10 micrometers 10 parts per million Carbon-rich giant stars, or supernovae Graphite (C) 1-10 micrometers 2 parts per million Supernovae and carbon-rich giant stars Aluminum oxide (Al2O3) 1-5 micrometers 0.1 parts per million oxygen-rich giant stars Spinel (MgAl2O4) 1 micrometer 2 parts per billion oxygen-rich giant stars Silicon nitride (Si3N4) 1 micrometer 2 parts per billion Supernovae Table adapted from a 1993 Meteoritics review by Edward Anders and Ernst Zinner, and Conel Alexander's Carnegie Institution Yearbook 95, report Stardust in the Laboratory. http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/July97/Stardust.html Shawn Alan eBayshop http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=_trksid=p4340 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] X37B Orbital Bomber
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:36:01 -0500, you wrote: slowest meteoids (and of course, the higher the orbit, the lower the satellite.) I meant the higher, the slower, and meant to include this link: http://www.csgnetwork.com/satorbdatacalc.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Livingston/Mifflin/Mineral Point/Iowa County/Grant County/Wisconsin Meteorite
hi folks, While contemplating a trip to the great pastures of Southwestern Wisconsin and what this new meteorite will eventually be called Livingston/Mifflin/Mineral Point/Iowa County/Grant County/Iowa-Grant County Schools/Wisconsin Meteorite I was listening to WLS-FM Oldies on 94.7 here in Chicago. Grace Slick of Jefferson Airplane was singing White Rabbit and NO, I was Not high. ;-) Just in case any of you were thinking that my hippie childhood in the 60s at 9 years old hearing this song made you think such thoughts. ;-) Shame on you! lol ;-) A couple of things dawned on me. 1) Farmers have been plowing for over a week and are ready to plant 2) Landowners have been charging $50 per day, per person to hunt on their land. Regardless of whether you find meteorites or Not, you Don't get your money back if you don't find any. 3) You must pay the landowner 50 % of your findings before you leave or said landowner may take out a shotgun and give you a taste of some buckshot... Honestly, you do have to pay 50% of what you find. Just ask the guys that have been there. Example: if you find a 20 gram meteorite, landowner weighs it and at, say $5 per gram, you have a $100 meteorite and landowner gets $50 from you before you can leave the area. As you have read in earlier posts Mike Farmer noted some guy ( we don't know him, hopefully a local) found a meteorite and everyone saw it and he took off before paying the landowner and the landowner got angry and chased everyone off his land. 4) No one has any idea if there is a Main Mass if it has been found or if the largest 200 gram stone is the main mass or if it's much bigger or where it is. 5) Now, the jist of this post.Once farmers have planted and plants are up and growing or in the fields, they... DO NOT ...want a bunch of CollectorsExpert or Novice stomping around the fields and crushing their plants.!! I know this from personal experience because I used to go up to Iowa County for a 15 year period and always walked around the fields when going to and fro. If farmers even, and I Stress the word EVEN let anyone onto their land they are most likely going to charge higher prices, i.e. $100 per day plus a cut, perhaps 50 % or more. 6) This area in Iowa/Grant counties and throughout Wisconsin, Illinois and Indiana, Iowa, etc. as many of you know that live in the area was heavily planted during WWI with HEMP let me say that again, H-E-M-P that was used as Hemp rope during World War 1. Think Willie Nelson or Woody Harrelson. Every year farmers are supposed to pull out or cut down the hemp and burn it or the county will come and do it and charge or fine the landowners. You guys in Northern Indiana and Illinois know we hear of the yearly Hemp Burning of hundreds of acres in Northern Indiana that always makes the news. I Stress this since if you plan on going up this Summer, you had better make sure you don't try to skirt around contacting the landowners and let them know you want to hunt meteorites. Not, that I would in any way shape or form think or suggest you would do this, But, I stress this since if you are out walking around the side of the road or along a pasture or fence line and someone, neighbor, passer-by County Mountie or landowner and they see you, they may report you to the law as someone looking to Harvest Hemp and you may get a ticket and be going to jail. Just to put that out there as food for thought. Just to make it safer for everyone. Hope this is helpful before you plan a trip there. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Wisconsin Fireball Meteorite Fall Part Slices on Ebay NOW 1 day
Hello List, I have just returned home today from Wisconsin with a couple of recovered specimens, one of which has been sliced. The interior on some of the slices is absolutely amazing. I have picked out a few of my favorite looking pieces and have listed them on Ebay tonight. I have been asked by many people what I think these new specimens are worth, and what I would be willing to sell mine for? I really don't know the answer to these questions. So, instead of trying to guess at the supply and demand issues concerned here, I figured I would let the free market decide for me. My hunch is that these will sell up around $100/g but who knows for sure. Very little has made it to market, and very little may ever make it to market. Then again, a 500 pound main mass might be found and these could get a lot cheaper later...providing the large mass would make it to market. So I have put up a couple of part slices on ebay tonight with a 1 day listing. I have a few more listed on the 3 day listings to allow everyone the weekend to decide if they want a part slice and if they want to bid on them. I know if I gave them a full week or 10 days the bids would likely go higher, but why waste time when we all can figure out what these are worth sooner? Check out my listings here: http://stores.ebay.com//stevearnoldmeteorites?refid=store Thanks, Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] low-life
People like this need a good hard smack by a falling meteorite. That's all I have to say.. --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! - Original Message From: MIke Antonelli mfranci...@verizon.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 7:15:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] low-life I'm sorry, didn't mean to dangle that tidbit out there. I am looking to confront this person face to face (or at least thru the police) before I go blabbin' my obviously huge mouth. Suffice it to say his actions were not only extremely dangerous and CRIMINAL, but downright offensive and appauling to all that is decent in the world of meteorite hunting. Acts that reflect HORRIBLY on us all, and when the time comes, this person, this degenerate, will be exposed for his shameful dirty deeds. Please, for now, don't ask, I really cant say just yet, and now mostly regret posting anything even mentioning this, I was just feelin where Dirk was comin from, and threw in my two cents... But at the same time, I know this person is reading this, and I will say this to him... I know what you did, I know who you are. Don't think for a second that you got away with it! I am on to you, and the Pennsylvania State Police are onto you as well. I'm sorry folks, but there is evil among us! Just writing this doesn't feel right, so I'm shuttin my big trap already. All will be out in the open soon enough. Sorry.--M.A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Wisconsin Fireball Meteorite Fall Part Slices on Ebay NOW 1 day
Hey Steve do you realize some of us are still out in the field? On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:29 PM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: Hello List, I have just returned home today from Wisconsin with a couple of recovered specimens, one of which has been sliced. The interior on some of the slices is absolutely amazing. I have picked out a few of my favorite looking pieces and have listed them on Ebay tonight. I have been asked by many people what I think these new specimens are worth, and what I would be willing to sell mine for? I really don't know the answer to these questions. So, instead of trying to guess at the supply and demand issues concerned here, I figured I would let the free market decide for me. My hunch is that these will sell up around $100/g but who knows for sure. Very little has made it to market, and very little may ever make it to market. Then again, a 500 pound main mass might be found and these could get a lot cheaper later...providing the large mass would make it to market. So I have put up a couple of part slices on ebay tonight with a 1 day listing. I have a few more listed on the 3 day listings to allow everyone the weekend to decide if they want a part slice and if they want to bid on them. I know if I gave them a full week or 10 days the bids would likely go higher, but why waste time when we all can figure out what these are worth sooner? Check out my listings here: http://stores.ebay.com//stevearnoldmeteorites?refid=store Thanks, Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
I wonder if it would possible to send some machines to the asteroid belt to capture some whole asteroids and bring them to Earth? Or would they be drifting too quickly in their orbits to capture with the current technology? Also would decent-sized samples from such captures be available to collectors? --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Martian Blood Vessels strike again
Hello List, Marvin The Martian ,in a rock ,is back. This time as a Chinese seal. http://cgi.ebay.com/Prettiest-Fossil-Meteorite-seal-containing-Martian-BV-/130383856589?cmd=ViewItempt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1e5b7bc3cd Warren Sansoucie __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Livingston/Mifflin/Mineral Point/Iowa County/Grant County/Wisconsin Meteorite
Hi Brian and List, I come from a family of farmers in south-west Ohio, Right now the farmers are planting. I have been hunting Indian artifacts for 20 years, After planting if you ask the farmer if you can walk in between the row's and look for arrowheads or(meteorites) they will almost always say sure! You should be able to do this till early june, crops will not be too high yet. As far as the HEMP goes, The drug dealers do not start planting it down hear in the corn fields untill the corn is at least 2 feet high! LOL Dave --- On Sat, 4/24/10, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Livingston/Mifflin/Mineral Point/Iowa County/Grant County/Wisconsin Meteorite To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 3:27 AM hi folks, While contemplating a trip to the great pastures of Southwestern Wisconsin and what this new meteorite will eventually be called Livingston/Mifflin/Mineral Point/Iowa County/Grant County/Iowa-Grant County Schools/Wisconsin Meteorite I was listening to WLS-FM Oldies on 94.7 here in Chicago. Grace Slick of Jefferson Airplane was singing White Rabbit and NO, I was Not high. ;-) Just in case any of you were thinking that my hippie childhood in the 60s at 9 years old hearing this song made you think such thoughts. ;-) Shame on you! lol ;-) A couple of things dawned on me. 1) Farmers have been plowing for over a week and are ready to plant 2) Landowners have been charging $50 per day, per person to hunt on their land. Regardless of whether you find meteorites or Not, you Don't get your money back if you don't find any. 3) You must pay the landowner 50 % of your findings before you leave or said landowner may take out a shotgun and give you a taste of some buckshot... Honestly, you do have to pay 50% of what you find. Just ask the guys that have been there. Example: if you find a 20 gram meteorite, landowner weighs it and at, say $5 per gram, you have a $100 meteorite and landowner gets $50 from you before you can leave the area. As you have read in earlier posts Mike Farmer noted some guy ( we don't know him, hopefully a local) found a meteorite and everyone saw it and he took off before paying the landowner and the landowner got angry and chased everyone off his land. 4) No one has any idea if there is a Main Mass if it has been found or if the largest 200 gram stone is the main mass or if it's much bigger or where it is. 5) Now, the jist of this post.Once farmers have planted and plants are up and growing or in the fields, they... DO NOT ...want a bunch of CollectorsExpert or Novice stomping around the fields and crushing their plants.!! I know this from personal experience because I used to go up to Iowa County for a 15 year period and always walked around the fields when going to and fro. If farmers even, and I Stress the word EVEN let anyone onto their land they are most likely going to charge higher prices, i.e. $100 per day plus a cut, perhaps 50 % or more. 6) This area in Iowa/Grant counties and throughout Wisconsin, Illinois and Indiana, Iowa, etc. as many of you know that live in the area was heavily planted during WWI with HEMP let me say that again, H-E-M-P that was used as Hemp rope during World War 1. Think Willie Nelson or Woody Harrelson. Every year farmers are supposed to pull out or cut down the hemp and burn it or the county will come and do it and charge or fine the landowners. You guys in Northern Indiana and Illinois know we hear of the yearly Hemp Burning of hundreds of acres in Northern Indiana that always makes the news. I Stress this since if you plan on going up this Summer, you had better make sure you don't try to skirt around contacting the landowners and let them know you want to hunt meteorites. Not, that I would in any way shape or form think or suggest you would do this, But, I stress this since if you are out walking around the side of the road or along a pasture or fence line and someone, neighbor, passer-by County Mountie or landowner and they see you, they may report you to the law as someone looking to Harvest Hemp and you may get a ticket and be going to jail. Just to put that out there as food for thought. Just to make it safer for everyone. Hope this is helpful before you plan a trip there. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
LOL! We can't even get ourselves into orbit without help from another country. Warren Sansoucie Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:20:17 -0700 From: miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit I wonder if it would possible to send some machines to the asteroid belt to capture some whole asteroids and bring them to Earth? Or would they be drifting too quickly in their orbits to capture with the current technology? Also would decent-sized samples from such captures be available to collectors? --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Re: X37B Orbital Bomber
-Forwarded Message- From: countde...@earthlink.net Sent: Apr 24, 2010 12:25 AM To: cyna...@charter.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] X37B Orbital Bomber Hi Darren and List, By passive in this application...it is meant that the device does not emit electronic counter measures. This weapon is powered to hypersonic (ok it's a stretch to call it cosmic) speed by a simple rocket motor using an oxidizer and JP8 and guided into a relatively short and steep trajectory to the target while protected from heat and pressure using ablative and mass sacrificing technology. I understand that the mass of the impactor is depleted uranium and it will definitely penetrate the atmosphere and hit the target substantually intact at an extremely high Mach number. I hope video and BDA will become available of this so we could use it in meteoritic cratering comparisons. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Sent: Apr 23, 2010 11:36 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] X37B Orbital Bomber With all due respect to your old pilot friend, that sounds like a steaming pile of crap. Meteoids enter the atmosphere at a range of 11 to 72 KM/s (according to this, which excepts the Encyclopedia Britannica) http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/meteor.html At the lowest of LEOs, satellites travel at less than 8 KM/s, slower than the slowest meteoids (and of course, the higher the orbit, the lower the satellite.) You could be generous and call that cosmic velocity, I suppose. But even so, that passive impactor would act just like a real meteoroid-- it would lose all of it's velocity and finish it's fall going at nothing more than the normal terminal velocity it would have if you dropped it from a high-flying plane. To retain cosmic velocity, it would have to be HUGE. Remember the space shuttle Columbia burning up on reentry? Remember any of the big fragments of it destroying any towns? On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:40:27 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: List, I post because this unmanned orbital bomber uses passive meteor like weapons to destroy terrestrial targets at cosmic velocities. I was formerly Director of Aviation Facilities for the Hughes Tool Company in the late 60's and an old pilot friend with high field grade USAF and NASA connections sent the communication below. The X37B using an Atlas V booster was sent up yesterday. I was told by another NASA type that five years ago somebody in the Pentagon responsible for USAF weapons development saw an It Came From Outer Space movie and got the idea to use man made impactors to destroy targetslike the errant asteroids in the movie. NASA had this hypersonic craft already under development, transferred it to the USAF in 2006, and re-engineered it to carry multiple impactors and guidance. Star Wars has arrived. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 Farouk, I believe you are referring to the X37B reusable space plane that was launched on the 21st four hours after DARPA's Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle went up. I'm not briefed in on either so can talk freely. However, it's like relating the contents of a letter I haven't read. We have long needed something like the Global Hawk, but lingering in space and having additional capability; something that can take stuff up, maneuver while up there, place satellites, pick up satellites and move them or even bring them home. GPS and com satellites are a huge requirement as well as all the secret stuff that's required to be up there. Originally, the space shuttle was going to do these things but it never panned out. Reportably the 37B will be capable of station times of 9 months or longer. Don't see why it couldn't eventually stay much longer since they don't need to take a supply of MM's to reward the navigators. Also, there's the weaponization angle. From space, one only needs to hit a target: no explosive required. A pound or so of depleted uranium dropped from space and goodbye battleship, building or whatever. A hypersonic ball, dropped from space and landing on the centerline of Tehran airport would send a stark message. A Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle could strike anywhere in the world without warning. On the test shot they are maneuvering hypersonic and that's just in the Glide phase. What is cleverly not said here is how fast was it going under power? They will complete the test by dunking it into the ocean at more than 13,000 miles an hour. A wet sponge at 13,000 miles per would hit like an atomic weapon. 13,000 mph = about Mach 17 Cheers, Shack __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at
Re: [meteorite-list] X37B Orbital Bomber
Darren, Count, List, The term meteor-like weapons is vague and imprecise. However, a low orbit platform is traveling at just a hair under 8000 m/s in the lowest possible orbit. Firing the kinetic weapon is just a matter of reducing the velocity of the projectile to a degree necessary to cause its new elliptical orbit to intersect the surface of the Earth at some specified point. The more you reduce its velocity the closer the point to the release and vice versa. The crucial factor in passing through the atmosphere without loss of velocity is the aspect ratio of the falling projectile. Here we mean the ratio of length to diameter. At an aspect ratio of 20:1, there is virtually no loss of velocity. Above 10:1, the loss is less than 10% of the original orbital velocity. This is assuming an aerodynamically clean projectile. Picture a big stainless-steel needle 6 to 8 feet long, 4 to 8 inches in diameter, with a long tapering point and polished to a high finish. It would impact the Earth at roughly 7000 m/s. It would penetrate weak surfaces and explode (vaporize) at hard ones. The US Navy announced, in 2007, plans to build a prototype for a 64 megajoule kinetic weapon (tungsten rods) to be fired from naval vessels. It would have a range of 200 to 250 miles, fly in a parabolic trajectory 90 to 100 miles high, and the 40 pound rod would impact at target with the energy release of driving a 3100-pound Ford Taurus into the target at something like 380 mph. Sounds unpleasant. Air bags? But this impressive gravity assist is piddling compared to dropping rocks from the freeway overpass of low orbit. The big stainless steel needle described above would impact with about 120 times the force of that same Ford Taurus. If all of this sounds counter-intuitive, well, the aim of re-entering a spacecraft is to get it to do so as slowly as possible, to dissipate its kinetic energy in the most efficient manner, and to arrive at the surface with the least kinetic energy. The aim of these weapons is to accomplish precisely the opposite in every regard. Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] X37B Orbital Bomber With all due respect to your old pilot friend, that sounds like a steaming pile of crap. Meteoids enter the atmosphere at a range of 11 to 72 KM/s (according to this, which excepts the Encyclopedia Britannica) http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/meteor.html At the lowest of LEOs, satellites travel at less than 8 KM/s, slower than the slowest meteoids (and of course, the higher the orbit, the lower the satellite.) You could be generous and call that cosmic velocity, I suppose. But even so, that passive impactor would act just like a real meteoroid-- it would lose all of it's velocity and finish it's fall going at nothing more than the normal terminal velocity it would have if you dropped it from a high-flying plane. To retain cosmic velocity, it would have to be HUGE. Remember the space shuttle Columbia burning up on reentry? Remember any of the big fragments of it destroying any towns? On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:40:27 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: List, I post because this unmanned orbital bomber uses passive meteor like weapons to destroy terrestrial targets at cosmic velocities. I was formerly Director of Aviation Facilities for the Hughes Tool Company in the late 60's and an old pilot friend with high field grade USAF and NASA connections sent the communication below. The X37B using an Atlas V booster was sent up yesterday. I was told by another NASA type that five years ago somebody in the Pentagon responsible for USAF weapons development saw an It Came From Outer Space movie and got the idea to use man made impactors to destroy targetslike the errant asteroids in the movie. NASA had this hypersonic craft already under development, transferred it to the USAF in 2006, and re-engineered it to carry multiple impactors and guidance. Star Wars has arrived. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 Farouk, I believe you are referring to the X37B reusable space plane that was launched on the 21st four hours after DARPA's Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle went up. I'm not briefed in on either so can talk freely. However, it's like relating the contents of a letter I haven't read. We have long needed something like the Global Hawk, but lingering in space and having additional capability; something that can take stuff up, maneuver while up there, place satellites, pick up satellites and move them or even bring them home. GPS and com satellites are a huge requirement as well as all the secret stuff that's required to be up there. Originally, the space shuttle was going to do these things but it never panned out. Reportably the 37B will be capable of station times of 9
Re: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
Well.. not only that - even in inside a spacecraft we are susceptible to deadly cosmic rays and can't stay very long out there beyond the protection of Earth's magnetic field,, which is why I mentioned using machines to retrieve them. --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! - Original Message From: Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com To: METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 9:30:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit LOL! We can't even get ourselves into orbit without help from another country. Warren Sansoucie Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:20:17 -0700 From: miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit I wonder if it would possible to send some machines to the asteroid belt to capture some whole asteroids and bring them to Earth? Or would they be drifting too quickly in their orbits to capture with the current technology? Also would decent-sized samples from such captures be available to collectors? --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:20:17 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: I wonder if it would possible to send some machines to the asteroid belt to capture some whole asteroids and bring them to Earth? Or would they be drifting too quickly in their orbits to capture with the current technology? Also would decent-sized samples from such captures be available to collectors? It would-- with technologies that are theoretically possible but not yet invented. You would need Von Neuman machines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_machine that are designed to build fusion rockets (along with more of themselves) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_rocket You would need vast amounts of ice for fuel, though-- you'd either have to find a very icy asteroid or send the machines to a comet to steer that to the asteroid to use as fuel. There may be one or more factor that will in the future be found to be impossible, but for now in theory sufficently advanced science and technology should be able to manage it. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
Hi Melanie and list, I thought about the same thing in regards to the ISS, it is traveling 27,000 mph in its oribit around the earth as well as space rocks! So could they capture one (meteor) with a fish net, or somthing! Come on Nasa employees, these are real questions!.lol Dave Myers --- On Sat, 4/24/10, Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca wrote: From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca Subject: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 4:20 AM I wonder if it would possible to send some machines to the asteroid belt to capture some whole asteroids and bring them to Earth? Or would they be drifting too quickly in their orbits to capture with the current technology? Also would decent-sized samples from such captures be available to collectors? --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
The problem with Von Neuman machines, are Von Neuman machines... Regards, Eric Quoting Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:20:17 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: I wonder if it would possible to send some machines to the asteroid belt to capture some whole asteroids and bring them to Earth? Or would they be drifting too quickly in their orbits to capture with the current technology? Also would decent-sized samples from such captures be available to collectors? It would-- with technologies that are theoretically possible but not yet invented. You would need Von Neuman machines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_machine that are designed to build fusion rockets (along with more of themselves) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_rocket You would need vast amounts of ice for fuel, though-- you'd either have to find a very icy asteroid or send the machines to a comet to steer that to the asteroid to use as fuel. There may be one or more factor that will in the future be found to be impossible, but for now in theory sufficently advanced science and technology should be able to manage it. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
To what end? Certainly, there is nothing to be found on asteroids that can't be obtained far cheaper on Earth. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit I wonder if it would possible to send some machines to the asteroid belt to capture some whole asteroids and bring them to Earth? Or would they be drifting too quickly in their orbits to capture with the current technology? Also would decent-sized samples from such captures be available to collectors? --- Melanie __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Wisconsin Fireball Meteorite Fall Part Slices on Eba...
I am not sure I understand why it is a problem that I sell while people are still in the field hunting? I am expecting people to be in the field up there for the next several months, maybe all summer. I can't wait until everyone gets out of the field before I start selling. I had to promise the land owner where I found this that I would pay him 50% of what I sell the rock(s) for to get permission to hunt on his ground in the first place. I didn't want to promise him that, but that is what the guy before me promised, so I had to agree or move on. I have to start selling now so I will know how much I have to pay him for his 50%. I am being inundated with requests for what I want to sell these for and I don't have a clue what they are worth. No one wants to offer me more than about $15 to $20/g for them, and I am not about to sell them that cheap. l also don't want to sell them for $100/g if other people are just going to sell theirs for less, then I get blamed for selling them for too much and ripping off my customers. People want to buy these now and the only fair way to do it is to let Ebay set the price. If the prices go up later or go down later, it isn't because I set the price too high or too low now. I assume you or anyone else in the field are paying the land owners 50% as agreed upon like I did. If these meteorites are indeed worth $10/g or $50/g or $500/g, then per your fair agreement, pay the landowners their promised 50%. What harm is there in that? I had people selling West stones on Ebay last year when I was still collecting in the field. It did raise some questions with the locals, but a simple explanation between Field Prices, Wholesale Prices and Retail Prices was usually sufficient enough for them to realize the situation at hand. If someone is leading the landowners to think that these are worth a small fraction of what they really will prove to be worth, then I am sorry that these lots might cause problems. But then again, the land owners will find out sooner or later anyway. Are you saying it is better to wait until all the specimens are recovered and everyone is out of the field before anyone of the locals find out what these are really worth? Bottom line is that I will probably go back up there to hunt more myself. And honestly, I would feel a lot better knowing what these are really worth when I do. I just assume I will have to pay 50% whether that is 50% of $6/g or 50% of $1,000/g. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men In a message dated 4/23/2010 11:17:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, meteoritefin...@gmail.com writes: Hey Steve do you realize some of us are still out in the field? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Questionable Ebay listing
Hello all, I have some questions in to the seller on this multiple find. No answers as of yet. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160426093221_trksid=p2759.l1259 I say 'Danger Will Robinson!' Warren Sansoucie __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
True, though whole asteroids could tell us whether the most of parent bodies of our chondrites are differentiated, which is something I would like to know more ablout.. perhaps drilling core samples rather than the entire rock - the machine in question could land on it rather than trying to catch it lol. --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! - Original Message From: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 9:55:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit To what end? Certainly, there is nothing to be found on asteroids that can't be obtained far cheaper on Earth. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit I wonder if it would possible to send some machines to the asteroid belt to capture some whole asteroids and bring them to Earth? Or would they be drifting too quickly in their orbits to capture with the current technology? Also would decent-sized samples from such captures be available to collectors? --- Melanie __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
Melanie, List, Our present level of technology is (just barely) capable of going to an asteroid and MINING some of it. In 1998, we sent a robot explorer to the asteroid Eros to photograph it and map it. No sample return. A number of spacecraft and a large crew could mine some of it, using solar heating to melt the metals out and bring them back to be separated and refined. If Eros is typical of stony meteorites, then it contains about 3% metal. With the known abundance's of metals in meteorites, even a very cautious estimate suggests 20,000 million tonnes of aluminium along with similar amounts of gold, platinum and other rarer metals. In the 2,900 cubic kms of Eros, there is more aluminium, gold, silver, zinc and other base and precious metals than have ever been excavated in history or indeed, could ever be excavated from the upper layers of the Earth's crust. How much is Eros worth? Today's price for gold is about $1000 per ounce or about $25,000,000 per ton. It means the value of the gold in asteroid Eros is about $4 trillion. That is just the gold. Platinum is equally expensive. Eros contains a lot of rare elements and metals that are of use in the semiconductor industry for example. At today's prices, Eros is worth more than $50 trillion. That is just in one asteroid and not a very large one at that. There are thousands of asteroids out there. John S. Lewis, author of Mining The Sky, said: “…an asteroid with a diameter of one kilometer would have a mass of about two billion tons. One such stoney asteroid would contain 30 million tons of nickel, 1.5 million tons of metal cobalt and 7,500 tons of platinum. The platinum alone would have a value of more than $150 billion!”. The huge sums of money involved could one day induce mining companies to look towards the heavens. It may not happen until we have exhausted most of the Earth's natural resources, but it will happen. MOVING an asteroid is also technically feasible, although we are newer to the idea. It might be cheaper to move a one-kilometer asteroid than to mine it in place. We mine it at our own speed once it was in Earth orbit. But there is the inherent public relations of problem of people who might get... well, nervous about us shoving a big asteroid toward the Earth. I don't think we know enough to estimate the cost of moving an asteroid yet. More reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining http://miningasteroids.com/ http://www.spacefuture.com/archive/the_technical_and_economic_feasibility_of_mining_the_near_earth_asteriods.shtml Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:20 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit I wonder if it would possible to send some machines to the asteroid belt to capture some whole asteroids and bring them to Earth? Or would they be drifting too quickly in their orbits to capture with the current technology? Also would decent-sized samples from such captures be available to collectors? --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Questionable Ebay listing
Warren and List, I'm still laughing at this ebay listing Did you notice the location Winnemucca, Nevada She sounds like an old whore from the Bunny Ranch who is selling the meteorites a Date paid her for services rendered to pay for a face and body lift and resculpting. She got them from 1918 or 1921 Exactly, how old is this old girl? http://shop.ebay.com/judybrown2010/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=_trksid=p4340 Her listing here: this is a 275 grams of meteorite a must have.225.00 or make an offer. i have a bucket full of them this one is one of the smallest. they came from shingle springs california. the meteor hit in i think 1921 or 1918 i got them myself. the faster you buy the faster the bigger one go up for sell. Both of her listings, do look like real meteorites. Anyone we know in financial trouble and been to the Bunny Ranch lately? I LOVE that sales hook the faster you buy the faster the bigger one go up for sell. Now, that is the way to sell meteorites..buy the unknown smaller and then if you do, I'll put up the larger ones... I honestly do feel sorry for her. Rolling Over StillLaughing __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
