[meteorite-list] Meteorite display at the LANHM

[Michael Mulgrew]

Dr. Anthony Kampf, Ms. Alyssa Morgan, Ms. Mary Stambaugh, and list:

Today after work I spent the afternoon at the Los Angeles Natural
History Museum in the Hall of Minerals.  There were some breathtaking
displays and I heard more than one "ooh" and "ahh" during the day,
several from my own mouth (the gold nugget display blew my mind!).
But let me tell you all that I was extremely disappointed by the
meteorite display.  There are several mistakes and misrepresentations
that jumped right out at me, but the lay-public is never going to know
that they have unintentionally been given the wrong information.  I
respectfully submit the following list of things I noticed and
remembered from earlier today:

- There are only 11 meteorites in the entire museum: 2 achondrites
(only 1 of the specimens is labeled as such), 4 irons (the Canyon
Diablo is not lit and I could barely see it, there is a large-ish
Campo del Cielo (?) that is part of the dinosaur extinction exhibit in
a separate hall and is only referred to as "a meteorite"), 1
pallasite, 1 carbonaceous chondrite, and 3 ordinary chondrites.  In my
opinion this is not a diverse enough sample set to represent
meteorites properly in a world-class museum setting.  For example,
only the 'E' in HED is represented.

- There is no classification given beyond "Iron - Octahedrite" or
"Stone - Ordinary Chondrite", etc.   I know that Gao-Guenie is an H5,
high-iron meteorite, but shouldn't anyone else who sees this display?
Which reminds me...

- The Gao-Guenie specimen is mistakenly named only "Gao".  Gao is a
doubtful meteorite according to the MetBul.

- Kamacite and taenite are referred to as "high iron" and "high
nickle", respectively. Kamacite would be more properly represented as
"low nickle"; they are both iron alloys.

- The mass (or weight) of the specimen is not always given.

- With no mention of meteorite recovery or how they are found that I
saw, the meteorwrong exhibit seems awkward and out of place.  But
thankfully...

- The meteorwrong exhibit is so dark I couldn't see anything in it.

- The 13g slice of Los Angeles is beautiful, and it was great to see
Mr. Verish's face smiling back at me from within the display, but the
card mistakenly says that it's "officially named the 'Los Angeles
Meteorite'".  More accurately, it is the meteorite that is officially
named "Los Angeles".

- The description card for "Los Angeles Meteorite" says, "The smaller
of the two pieces of the Los Angeles Meteorite weighed 234 grams."
The card does not tell you the weight of the larger piece, which is
probably the one people would want to know about.  And the smaller
piece actually weighed 245.4g (MetBul).

- The classification for "Los Angeles Meteorite" is given as,
"Classification: Stony, SNC, Shergottite"  SNC has not been a
classification for a number of years.  It should say 'achondrite'
there instead.

- The display card for the one carbonaceous chondrite, a wonderfully
fusion crusted Allende, doesn't even mention anything about amino
acids, "the building blocks of life", in meteorites.  That's something
I think the general public would find very interesting, even if they
didn't know anything else about meteorites.

- The card for Millbillillie refers to achondrites as "volcanic
rocks".  I believe this should state they are igneous rocks.  The
difference is very distinct.

- The museum staff I spoke with were very friendly.  Understandingly,
no one I spoke with knew much about meteorites.  One museum employee
kept calling them meteors, though.

To me this list is embarrassing for the natural history museum of the
second largest city in this country, and reflects poorly on all
southern California meteorite enthusiasts, if not the meteorite
community en masse.  I hope these issues can be addressed.  It would
be my privilege to help in anyway possible, please let me know if
there is anything I can do.

Respectfully,

-Michael in so. Cal.
"Everywhere I go, I see the same rocks."
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[meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Clues

[MexicoDoug]

Clues for the meteorite hunt:

Non-Antarctic, I have seen 12 perfect meteorite anagrams involving 24 
meteorites, more than previously thought and all valid.  So don't be 
afraid to get your ticket.  The TKW is 69 letters (138 counting anagram 
pairings).  They are out there it is up to you to find them! Just like 
in the field ;-) Agh


The highest possible score is a main mass of 21 (a seven letter 
meteorite name tripled for perfect anagrams).  There are two of those 
though; one of those anagram pairing can be made by moving only one 
letter in one to another position; in the other case, two letters need 
to be moved which would immediately win the contest since it is more 
shuffled and the highest scoring meteorite in the official meteorite 
dictionary (unless someone pulls an Antarctic surprise).


The single eight letter compound word is penalized since it is just an 
inversion of two common four letter words and is scored as only 6 for 
that reason (2 tripled), in last place of the 12.


One anagram involves a cool type specimen ...

All diacritical marks on letters are not to be recognized for the 
purpose of the hunt, so ñ is counted as n, ü as u, á as a, ł is l,

etc., apostrophe (') is ignored, as is dash (-), etc.

No anagram canned software or anagram programs are allowed under the 
honor system, but anything you can do wholly on your own in a Excel or 
a similar commercial spreadsheet program is fine including importing 
data to it you can mooch off Jeff, Sergey or whoever is stomping around 
the virtual strewn field with the right meteorite hunting tools.


Good luck!  If no one finds the top scoring meteorite pair sooner, the 
hunt is over on Sunday 23 October at 11:59 PM PDT (Los Angeles time) 
and the highest scoring entry submitted before that point wins which 
still might be an imperfect anagram.




Kindest wishes
Doug



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Re: [meteorite-list] munich show is next week

[Said Haddany]

Hi Aziz Habibi and all,
Yes the munich show is coming soon ,hope will meet our friends and enjoy being 
with them...munich show is much fun ...cant wait to see you all there ...cheers
Said Haddany
I.M.C.A # 8108
Morocco



--- On Mon, 10/17/11, habibi abdelaziz  wrote:

> From: habibi abdelaziz 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] munich show is next week
> To: "meteorite list" 
> Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 9:49 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> hello all
> well the munchen show is next week ; 
> so i ask to know who will be there ,
> and who organize this brauhaus dinner and where to meet,
> thanks
> aziz habibi
> imca 6220
> 
> 
> habibi aziz 
> box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco 
> phone. 21235576145 
> fax.21235576170 
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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[MexicoDoug]

How else could you provide us some of the finest localities to some of 
us crazies, if not by written telepathy?  (really your language 
subroutines need a richer idiom capability, something only you probably 
could pull off in in lunch hour)


Have I ever thanked you in public for such a carbonaceous treasure 
Efremovka some time ago (no, I didn't even mention I received it, 
shamelessly), who else could so well understand devotion to such a 
fantastic dually oxidized reduced beauty!  I am very, very proud of 
this specimen!


Kindest wishes Sergey!

-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug 
Cc: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Even I can't translate what you are talking about, I understood that
you know the name ;-)
Sergey

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:43 PM, MexicoDoug  wrote:
I 've pepped it up, but alas to no avail ... but only find the 

meteorite

Enon, which backwards is only none ...

;-)

-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 5:00 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Yes, 2 of 3 are from USA
Sergey

-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug [mailto:mexicod...@aim.com]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:57 PM
To: vs.petrov...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
jgross...@usgs.gov
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


PS Sergey, Jeff

Otto is from the USA - are two of three from the USA, then?

Here is a swell palindrome from the USA:

Wardswell Draw

Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug ; Meteorite-list

Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:28 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Doug,


But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the


Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name 

...


The third one is from USA! ;-)

Regards,
Sergey



-Original Message-
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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of
MexicoDoug
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:18 PM
To: robert.d.mat...@saic.com; jgross...@usgs.gov;
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)


Hi Rob,

Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.

But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name 

...


Jeff:

Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:

Coyote Mountains
Gascoyne Junction
Gaines County Park
Oktibbeha County

and if you count this:
Phillips County (pallasite)

Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.

Kindest wishes
Doug

-Original Message-
From: Matson, Robert D. 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Jeff,


Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
Name it.


I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is 

Ziz.


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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[Sergey Vasiliev]

Even I can't translate what you are talking about, I understood that
you know the name ;-)
Sergey

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:43 PM, MexicoDoug  wrote:
> I 've pepped it up, but alas to no avail ... but only find the meteorite
> Enon, which backwards is only none ...
>
> ;-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sergey Vasiliev 
> To: MexicoDoug 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 5:00 pm
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update
>
>
> Yes, 2 of 3 are from USA
> Sergey
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MexicoDoug [mailto:mexicod...@aim.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:57 PM
> To: vs.petrov...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
> jgross...@usgs.gov
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update
>
>
> PS Sergey, Jeff
>
> Otto is from the USA - are two of three from the USA, then?
>
> Here is a swell palindrome from the USA:
>
> Wardswell Draw
>
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sergey Vasiliev 
> To: MexicoDoug ; Meteorite-list
> 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:28 pm
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update
>
>
> Hi Doug,
>
>> But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
>
> Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...
>
> The third one is from USA! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Sergey
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of
> MexicoDoug
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:18 PM
> To: robert.d.mat...@saic.com; jgross...@usgs.gov;
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update
>
>
> OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)
>
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.
>
> But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
> Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...
>
> Jeff:
>
> Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:
>
> Coyote Mountains
> Gascoyne Junction
> Gaines County Park
> Oktibbeha County
>
> and if you count this:
> Phillips County (pallasite)
>
> Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.
>
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matson, Robert D. 
> To: Meteorite-list 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update
>
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
>> Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
>> letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
>> Name it.
>
> I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
> of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob
>
> P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[MexicoDoug]

I 've pepped it up, but alas to no avail ... but only find the 
meteorite Enon, which backwards is only none ...


;-)

-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 5:00 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Yes, 2 of 3 are from USA
Sergey

-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug [mailto:mexicod...@aim.com]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:57 PM
To: vs.petrov...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
jgross...@usgs.gov
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


PS Sergey, Jeff

Otto is from the USA - are two of three from the USA, then?

Here is a swell palindrome from the USA:

Wardswell Draw

Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug ; Meteorite-list

Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:28 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Doug,


But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the

Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

The third one is from USA! ;-)

Regards,
Sergey



-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of
MexicoDoug
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:18 PM
To: robert.d.mat...@saic.com; jgross...@usgs.gov;
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)


Hi Rob,

Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.

But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

Jeff:

Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:

Coyote Mountains
Gascoyne Junction
Gaines County Park
Oktibbeha County

and if you count this:
Phillips County (pallasite)

Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.

Kindest wishes
Doug

-Original Message-
From: Matson, Robert D. 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Jeff,


Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
Name it.


I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.

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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[MexicoDoug]

PS Sergey, Jeff

Otto is from the USA - are two of three from the USA, then?

Here is a swell palindrome from the USA:

Wardswell Draw

Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug ; Meteorite-list 


Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:28 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Doug,


But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the

Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

The third one is from USA! ;-)

Regards,
Sergey



-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of
MexicoDoug
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:18 PM
To: robert.d.mat...@saic.com; jgross...@usgs.gov;
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)


Hi Rob,

Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.

But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

Jeff:

Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:

Coyote Mountains
Gascoyne Junction
Gaines County Park
Oktibbeha County

and if you count this:
Phillips County (pallasite)

Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.

Kindest wishes
Doug

-Original Message-
From: Matson, Robert D. 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Jeff,


Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
Name it.


I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.

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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[MexicoDoug]

Hi Sergey,

I had to quit for the day, but this is a big mystery, that US 
palindrome.  Is the locality Palindrome, USA ? ;-)


Fun Fun now really in trouble for foolin around

Kinfdest wishes
Doug





-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev 
To: MexicoDoug ; Meteorite-list 


Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:28 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Doug,


But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the

Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

The third one is from USA! ;-)

Regards,
Sergey



-Original Message-
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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of
MexicoDoug
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:18 PM
To: robert.d.mat...@saic.com; jgross...@usgs.gov;
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)


Hi Rob,

Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.

But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

Jeff:

Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:

Coyote Mountains
Gascoyne Junction
Gaines County Park
Oktibbeha County

and if you count this:
Phillips County (pallasite)

Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.

Kindest wishes
Doug

-Original Message-
From: Matson, Robert D. 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Jeff,


Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
Name it.


I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Auctions

[mafer]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/refamat/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1

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[meteorite-list] AD - Auctions

[mafer]

I have some auctions running. Might be of interest so take a look.
Thanks

Mark Ferguson

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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[Sergey Vasiliev]

Hi Doug,

>But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

The third one is from USA! ;-)

Regards,
Sergey



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OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)


Hi Rob,

Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.

But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...

Jeff:

Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:

Coyote Mountains
Gascoyne Junction
Gaines County Park
Oktibbeha County

and if you count this:
Phillips County (pallasite)

Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.

Kindest wishes
Doug

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To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm
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Hi Jeff,

> Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
> letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
> Name it.

I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.

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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[MexicoDoug]

OK, we are clear for the anagram contest to continue ;-)


Hi Rob,

Ziz is not official, it doesn't count in my rules.

But Otto and Seres would ;-)  That leaves a humdinger maybe from the 
Southern Continent for the third one  if it is an approved name ...


Jeff:

Besides Sierra County & Superior Valley:

Coyote Mountains
Gascoyne Junction
Gaines County Park
Oktibbeha County

and if you count this:
Phillips County (pallasite)

Which total seven, but the (pallasite) would be lame in my rules.

Kindest wishes
Doug

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Hi Jeff,


Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
Name it.


I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.

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Hi All

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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[Matson, Robert D.]

Hi Jeff,

> Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the
> letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.
> Name it.

I thought of one of U.S. ones right away, only because I found several
of them:  "Superior Valley xxx" ;-)  --Rob

P.S.  Probably the highest palindromic meteorite in the alphabet is Ziz.

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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[Jeff Grossman]

You got it.

Double bonus: 7 meteorites, including Sierra County, use all of the 
letters A-E-I-O-U-Y.  All are in the United States except for one.  Name it.


Jeff

On 10/21/2011 1:11 PM, MexicoDoug wrote:


Jeff asked:

"What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?"

May I partcipate in the bonus question (and what's the prize?)

My entry is (valid entry under the honor system):

Sierra County

Kindest wishes
Doug






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Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Bonus questions:

What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?

There are 8 meteorite names (that I can find) for which all of the
letters in the name occur in alphabetical order.  The longest has 6
letters.  What is it?

What are the three meteorite names that are palindromes.

Jeff

On 10/21/2011 11:20 AM, MexicoDoug wrote:

Dear List Anagrammatists,

There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real
good ones!

Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged
exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters
on either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since
imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect 

anagram

likely will score higher and win anyway!

One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me
an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule
and not entered) to prove this fact.

So the last rule is modified,

"If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant
who can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest
interval of
time."

...no longer is necessary;

and replaced by:

If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the
winning entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all
letters of a meteorite name with none left over and none additional,
into a word or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any
listmember can speak it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.

This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with
its rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used
Latin.  There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so
that's an option, too.

The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles
time), 23 October 2011
Kindest wishes
Doug


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Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge


Dear List:

"2011" Meteorite Challenge

For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names. 

The
prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that 

beautiful
witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest 

of

all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
you the champion:

"METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"

An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to 

form

another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of 

Galileo,

who was a very accomplished anagrammist.

I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
have I tried ... but, here's an idea:

Allende / Yelland

If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain 

instance

;-)

The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is 

ok,

even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule
of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:

For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:

HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING 

DATA

FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any
cheat programs exist, but I imagine they do.

(1)  Minimum of 4 letters
(2) Numbers are not included, but their letters can be used.  For
example ABCDE ### can be used as simply ABCDE.
(3) Reuse of complete words or components of compound words do not
count.  For example, Northeast Africa and Northwest Africa have no
value, nor would "meteor" and "meteorite" if they were valid, have any
value.
(4) The value of the meteorite anagram is simply the number of r

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[meteorite-list] ROSAT Nears Re-Entry

[Ron Baalke]

Space Weather News for Oct. 21, 2011
http://spaceweather.com

WEEKEND METEOR SHOWER: Today Earth is entering a stream of debris from 
Halley's comet, source of the annual Orionid meteor shower. Forecasters 
expect the shower to peak on Saturday morning, Oct. 22nd, with more than 
15 meteors per hour.  Check http://spaceweather.com for links to a live 
meteor radar, sky maps and observing tips.

MASSIVE SATELLITE NEARS RE-ENTRY: The massive ROSAT X-ray space telescope 
is making its final spiralling orbits around Earth. Most experts agree that 
re-entry will occur during the early hours of Oct. 23rd over a still-unknown 
region of our planet.  Sky watchers report that the descending satellite can 
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greater intensity.  For last-chance sightings of ROSAT in your area, please 
check SpaceWeather's online satellite tracker (http://spaceweather.com/flybys) 
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[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Opportunity Update: October 14-19, 2011

[Ron Baalke]

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity

OPPORTUNITY UPDATE:  Opportunity Past 21 Miles of Driving! Will Spend
Winter at Cape York - sols 2745-2750, October 14-19, 2011:

The project has made the decision that Opportunity will winter over on
the north end of Cape York on the rim of Endeavour crater where northern
tilts are favorable for energy production.

On Sol 2746 (Oct. 15, 2011), Opportunity drove 167 feet (51 meters) to
the north/northeast. On Sol 2749 (Oct. 18, 2011), the rover drove
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opportunistic in-situ (contact) science alone the way. Light-toned veins
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As of Sol 2750 (Oct. 19, 2011), solar array energy production was 312
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Total odometry is 21.08 miles (33,931.24 meters, or 33.93 kilometers).
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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 17-21, 2011

[Ron Baalke]

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
October 17-21, 2011

o Clouds (17 October 2011)
  http://themis.asu.edu/node/5738

o Naktong Vallis (18 October 2011)
  http://themis.asu.edu/node/5739

o Margaritifer Chaos (19 October 2011)
  http://themis.asu.edu/node/5740

o Darwin Crater Dunes (20 October 2011)
  http://themis.asu.edu/node/5741

o Tiu Valles (21 October 2011)
  http://themis.asu.edu/node/5742


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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[meteorite-list] Weekend Meteor Shower (Orionids)

[Ron Baalke]

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/20oct_orionids/

Weekend Meteor Shower
NASA Science News
Oct 20, 2011

Earth is about to pass through a stream of debris from
Halley's comet, source of the annual Orionid meteor shower.  Forecasters
expect more than 15 meteors per hour to fly across the sky on Saturday
morning, Oct. 22nd, when the shower peaks.

Orionids are most easily seen during the dark hours before sunrise.
Twilight Orionids, however, are the most beautiful of all.

"Although this isn't the biggest meteor shower of the year, it's
definitely worth waking up for," says Bill Cooke of the NASA Meteoroid
Environment Office. "The setting is dynamite."

Orionids are framed by some of the brightest and most beautiful
constellations in the night sky. The meteors emerge from mighty Orion,
the shower's glittering namesake.  From there they streak through Taurus
the Bull, the twins of Gemini, Leo the Lion, and Canis Major--home to
Sirius, the most brilliant star of all.

This year, the Moon and Mars are part of the show.  They'll form two
vertices of a celestial triangle in
the eastern sky on Saturday morning while the shower is most active;
Regulus is the third vertex.  Blue Regulus and red Mars are both
approximately of 1st magnitude, so they are easy to see alongside the
35% crescent Moon.  Many Orionids will be diving through the triangle in
the hours before dawn.

Cooke's team at the Meteoroid Environment Office will be watching for
Orionids that actually hit the Moon.

Cometary debris streams like Halley's are so wide, the whole Earth-Moon
system fits inside. So when there is a meteor shower on Earth, there's
usually one on the Moon, too.  Unlike Earth, however, the Moon has no
atmosphere to intercept meteoroids.  Pieces of debris fall all the way
to the surface and explode where they hit.  Flashes of light caused by
thermal heating of lunar rocks and moondust are so bright, they can
sometimes be seen through backyard-class telescopes.

"Since we began our monitoring program in 2005, our group has detected
more than 250 lunar meteors," says Cooke. "Some explode with energies
exceeding hundreds of pounds of TNT."

So far, they've seen 15 Orionids hitting the Moon--"two in 2007, four in
2008, and nine in 2009," recalls Cooke.  This year they hope to add to
the haul.  About 25% of the Moon's dark terrain will be exposed to
Halley's debris stream, giving the team millions of square miles to scan
for explosions.

Watching meteoroids hit the Moon is a good way to learn about the
structure of comet debris streams and the energy of the particles
therein.  It also allows Cooke and colleagues to calculate risk factors
for astronauts who, someday, will walk on the lunar surface again.

"Going outside to watch the Orionids might not be a good idea for a
moonwalker," says Cooke.

But it is a good idea for the rest of us.  Set your alarm for a few
hours before dawn on Saturday morning and enjoy the show.


Author: Dr. Tony Phillips
Credit: Science@NASA


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Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[Sergey Vasiliev]

Great, Doug!

I already know the answer for the palindromes! ;-)
Actually I have 4 names but one is a Pseudometeorite. This one is Aba.

As I said, I will not publish my answers because I'm in a better position
and have a connection to the EoM database.

Working on the second one...

Sergey

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of
MexicoDoug
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 7:12 PM
To: jngross...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update



Jeff asked:

"What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?"

May I partcipate in the bonus question (and what's the prize?)

My entry is (valid entry under the honor system):

Sierra County

Kindest wishes
Doug






-Original Message-
From: Jeff Grossman 
To: meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Bonus questions:

What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?

There are 8 meteorite names (that I can find) for which all of the
letters in the name occur in alphabetical order.  The longest has 6
letters.  What is it?

What are the three meteorite names that are palindromes.

Jeff

On 10/21/2011 11:20 AM, MexicoDoug wrote:
> Dear List Anagrammatists,
>
> There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real
> good ones!
>
> Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged
> exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters
> on either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since
> imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect
anagram
> likely will score higher and win anyway!
>
> One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me
> an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule
> and not entered) to prove this fact.
>
> So the last rule is modified,
>
> "If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant
> who can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest
> interval of
> time."
>
> ...no longer is necessary;
>
> and replaced by:
>
> If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the
> winning entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all
> letters of a meteorite name with none left over and none additional,
> into a word or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any
> listmember can speak it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.
>
> This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with
> its rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used
> Latin.  There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so
> that's an option, too.
>
> The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles
> time), 23 October 2011
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MexicoDoug 
> To: Meteorite-list 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
> Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> "2011" Meteorite Challenge
>
> For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
> meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
> virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.
The
> prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that
beautiful
> witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest
of
> all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
> be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
> some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
> the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
> you the champion:
>
> "METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"
>
> An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to
form
> another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
> pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
> please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of
Galileo,
> who was a very accomplished anagrammist.
>
> I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
> have I tried ... but, here's an idea:
>
> Allende / Yelland
>
> If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
> pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain
instance
> ;-)
>
> The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
> can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is
ok,
> even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule
> of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:
>
> For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:
>
> HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING
D

Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[MexicoDoug]

Jeff asked:

"What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?"

May I partcipate in the bonus question (and what's the prize?)

My entry is (valid entry under the honor system):

Sierra County

Kindest wishes
Doug






-Original Message-
From: Jeff Grossman 
To: meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Bonus questions:

What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?

There are 8 meteorite names (that I can find) for which all of the
letters in the name occur in alphabetical order.  The longest has 6
letters.  What is it?

What are the three meteorite names that are palindromes.

Jeff

On 10/21/2011 11:20 AM, MexicoDoug wrote:

Dear List Anagrammatists,

There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real
good ones!

Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged
exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters
on either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since
imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect 

anagram

likely will score higher and win anyway!

One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me
an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule
and not entered) to prove this fact.

So the last rule is modified,

"If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant
who can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest
interval of
time."

...no longer is necessary;

and replaced by:

If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the
winning entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all
letters of a meteorite name with none left over and none additional,
into a word or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any
listmember can speak it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.

This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with
its rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used
Latin.  There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so
that's an option, too.

The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles
time), 23 October 2011
Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge


Dear List:

"2011" Meteorite Challenge

For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  

The
prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that 

beautiful
witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest 

of

all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
you the champion:

"METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"

An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to 

form

another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of 

Galileo,

who was a very accomplished anagrammist.

I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
have I tried ... but, here's an idea:

Allende / Yelland

If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain 

instance

;-)

The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is 

ok,

even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule
of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:

For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:

HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING 

DATA

FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any
cheat programs exist, but I imagine they do.

(1)  Minimum of 4 letters
(2) Numbers are not included, but their letters can be used.  For
example ABCDE ### can be used as simply ABCDE.
(3) Reuse of complete words or components of compound words do not
count.  For example, Northeast Africa and Northwest Africa have no
value, nor would "meteor" and "meteorite" if they were valid, have any
value.
(4) The value of the meteorite anagram is simply the number of reused
letters unless it is a perfect anagram (see (6).
(5) Partial anagrams can be used where only a subset of the letters in
one meteorite's name is used to form another complete meteorite name.
For example,

Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[Sergey Vasiliev]

Hi Jeff,

I know the answer for the first question. But I guess that it is not a right
thing
to publish it because I used my computer to find it out ;-)

Good questions!

Now I will play a bit more to find the other answers.
First I will need to translate for my self what palindrome is ;-)

Have a fun!
Sergey


-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of Jeff
Grossman
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:46 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Bonus questions:

What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?

There are 8 meteorite names (that I can find) for which all of the
letters in the name occur in alphabetical order.  The longest has 6
letters.  What is it?

What are the three meteorite names that are palindromes.

Jeff

On 10/21/2011 11:20 AM, MexicoDoug wrote:
> Dear List Anagrammatists,
>
> There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real
> good ones!
>
> Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged
> exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters
> on either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since
> imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect anagram
> likely will score higher and win anyway!
>
> One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me
> an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule
> and not entered) to prove this fact.
>
> So the last rule is modified,
>
> "If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant
> who can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest
> interval of
> time."
>
> ...no longer is necessary;
>
> and replaced by:
>
> If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the
> winning entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all
> letters of a meteorite name with none left over and none additional,
> into a word or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any
> listmember can speak it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.
>
> This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with
> its rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used
> Latin.  There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so
> that's an option, too.
>
> The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles
> time), 23 October 2011
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MexicoDoug 
> To: Meteorite-list 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
> Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> "2011" Meteorite Challenge
>
> For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
> meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
> virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  The
> prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that beautiful
> witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest of
> all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
> be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
> some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
> the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
> you the champion:
>
> "METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"
>
> An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to form
> another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
> pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
> please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of Galileo,
> who was a very accomplished anagrammist.
>
> I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
> have I tried ... but, here's an idea:
>
> Allende / Yelland
>
> If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
> pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain instance
> ;-)
>
> The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
> can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is ok,
> even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule
> of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:
>
> For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:
>
> HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING DATA
> FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any
> cheat programs exist, but I imagine they do.
>
> (1)  Minimum of 4 letters
> (2) Numbers are not included, but their letters can be used.  For
> example ABCDE ### can be used as simply ABCDE.
> (3) Reuse of complete words or components of compound words do not
> count.  For example, Northeast Africa and Northwest Africa have no
> value, nor would "meteor" and "meteorite" if the

Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[MexicoDoug]

Thanks Mike fr the entry, I don't mind if you post to the list or send 
in private, up to you guys ---


If anyone wants to kick in another prize please do!

Note:  Cali (2007, Fall, Colombia) = Calivo (1916, Fall, Phillipines) 
doesn't work according to the rules I think and in any case would come 
under the lame rule, and I'd need to check the Hindi meaning to score  
Chandakapur ==> Chandpur which might score very low due to compound 
elements in the bnative language; the whole idea is to deactivate 
Google and canned software for an old-fashioned contest, now that Peter 
has put me on cloud 9 with his decision to part with an impossible 
world class specimen.


Kindest wishes
Doug




-Original Message-
From: Michael Gilmer 
To: MexicoDoug 
Cc: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update


Hi Doug and List,

Interesting challenge.  And not as easy as it first seemed.  Here are
a few I came up with.  These are not perfect anagrams, but use some or
most of the letters  -

Albareto (1766, Fall, Italy) = Alberta (1949, Fall, Congo)

Al Rais (1957, Fall, Saudi Arabia) = Alais (1806, Fall, France)

Ban Rong Du (1993, Fall, Thailand) = Bandong (1871, Fall, Indonesia)

Bhola (1940, Fall, Bangladesh) = Bholghati (1905, Fall, India)

Cali (2007, Fall, Colombia) = Calivo (1916, Fall, Phillipines)

Chandakapur (1838, Fall, India) = Chandpur (1885, Fall, India)

Ok, it's obvious from my selection that I was going through the falls
in the Met Bulletin, in alphabetical order, and picking the low
hanging fruit.  But even that gave me a headache.  LOL

I'll try some more later.  The Indian falls are pretty easy since the
names share many letters.

Best regards,

MikeG

--
-

Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer)

Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my
News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
-



On 10/21/11, MexicoDoug  wrote:

Dear List Anagrammatists,

There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real 

good

ones!

Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged
exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters 

on

either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since
imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect anagram
likely will score higher and win anyway!

One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me
an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule 

and

not entered) to prove this fact.

So the last rule is modified,

"If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant 

who

can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest interval of
time."

...no longer is necessary;

and replaced by:

If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the 

winning

entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all letters of
a meteorite name with none left over and none additional, into a word
or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any listmember can speak
it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.

This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with 

its

rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used Latin.
There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so that's an
option, too.

The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles
time), 23 October 2011
Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge


Dear List:

"2011" Meteorite Challenge

For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  

The
prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that 

beautiful
witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest 

of

all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
you the champion:

 "METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"

An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to 

form

another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of 

Galileo,

who was a very accomplished anagrammist.

I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is

Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[Michael Gilmer]

Hi Doug and List,

Interesting challenge.  And not as easy as it first seemed.  Here are
a few I came up with.  These are not perfect anagrams, but use some or
most of the letters  -

Albareto (1766, Fall, Italy) = Alberta (1949, Fall, Congo)

Al Rais (1957, Fall, Saudi Arabia) = Alais (1806, Fall, France)

Ban Rong Du (1993, Fall, Thailand) = Bandong (1871, Fall, Indonesia)

Bhola (1940, Fall, Bangladesh) = Bholghati (1905, Fall, India)

Cali (2007, Fall, Colombia) = Calivo (1916, Fall, Phillipines)

Chandakapur (1838, Fall, India) = Chandpur (1885, Fall, India)

Ok, it's obvious from my selection that I was going through the falls
in the Met Bulletin, in alphabetical order, and picking the low
hanging fruit.  But even that gave me a headache.  LOL

I'll try some more later.  The Indian falls are pretty easy since the
names share many letters.

Best regards,

MikeG

-- 
-
Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer)

Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my
News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
-


On 10/21/11, MexicoDoug  wrote:
> Dear List Anagrammatists,
>
> There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real good
> ones!
>
> Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged
> exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters on
> either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since
> imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect anagram
> likely will score higher and win anyway!
>
> One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me
> an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule and
> not entered) to prove this fact.
>
> So the last rule is modified,
>
> "If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant who
> can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest interval of
> time."
>
> ...no longer is necessary;
>
> and replaced by:
>
> If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the winning
> entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all letters of
> a meteorite name with none left over and none additional, into a word
> or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any listmember can speak
> it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.
>
> This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with its
> rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used Latin.
> There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so that's an
> option, too.
>
> The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles
> time), 23 October 2011
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MexicoDoug 
> To: Meteorite-list 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
> Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> "2011" Meteorite Challenge
>
> For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
> meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
> virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  The
> prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that beautiful
> witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest of
> all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
> be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
> some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
> the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
> you the champion:
>
>  "METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"
>
> An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to form
> another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
> pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
> please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of Galileo,
> who was a very accomplished anagrammist.
>
> I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
> have I tried ... but, here's an idea:
>
> Allende / Yelland
>
> If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
> pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain instance
> ;-)
>
> The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
> can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is ok,
> even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule
> of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:
>
> For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:
>
> HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING DATA
> FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any
> cheat programs exist, but I imagine they do.
>
> (1)  Minimum of 4 letters

Re: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[Jeff Grossman]

Bonus questions:

What is the only meteorite name to use all the vowels, including y 
(a-e-i-o-u-y), where each vowel is used only once?


There are 8 meteorite names (that I can find) for which all of the 
letters in the name occur in alphabetical order.  The longest has 6 
letters.  What is it?


What are the three meteorite names that are palindromes.

Jeff

On 10/21/2011 11:20 AM, MexicoDoug wrote:

Dear List Anagrammatists,

There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real 
good ones!


Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged 
exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters 
on either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since 
imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect anagram 
likely will score higher and win anyway!


One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me 
an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule 
and not entered) to prove this fact.


So the last rule is modified,

"If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant 
who can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest 
interval of

time."

...no longer is necessary;

and replaced by:

If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the 
winning entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all 
letters of a meteorite name with none left over and none additional, 
into a word or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any 
listmember can speak it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.


This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with 
its rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used 
Latin.  There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so 
that's an option, too.


The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles 
time), 23 October 2011

Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge


Dear List:

"2011" Meteorite Challenge

For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  The
prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that beautiful
witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest of
all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
you the champion:

"METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"

An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to form
another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of Galileo,
who was a very accomplished anagrammist.

I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
have I tried ... but, here's an idea:

Allende / Yelland

If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain instance
;-)

The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is ok,
even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule
of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:

For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:

HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING DATA
FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any
cheat programs exist, but I imagine they do.

(1)  Minimum of 4 letters
(2) Numbers are not included, but their letters can be used.  For
example ABCDE ### can be used as simply ABCDE.
(3) Reuse of complete words or components of compound words do not
count.  For example, Northeast Africa and Northwest Africa have no
value, nor would "meteor" and "meteorite" if they were valid, have any
value.
(4) The value of the meteorite anagram is simply the number of reused
letters unless it is a perfect anagram (see (6).
(5) Partial anagrams can be used where only a subset of the letters in
one meteorite's name is used to form another complete meteorite name.
For example, Boaz (NM) is a partial from Bou Azarif (Morocco).  The
score would be the same for Boaz and Zaborzika (Ukraine).
(6) If all letters are used, the score is tripled.  For example, the
value of (5) above is only 4.  But, if there were a meteorite Zoab to
pair with Boaz, the value would be 12.
(7) The official dictionary is the Met Soc Online database, only
official meteorites are permitted.
(8)"Dry Lake", "Mountain", geographical words common to more t

Re: [meteorite-list] Ft. Collins, CO meteor 19OCT2011

[Chris Peterson]

Note that the data I posted from Denver was almost certainly the same as 
the SD/NE event, 2011-10-19 02:25:00 MDT (03:25 CDT), AMS 1180. I didn't 
receive any witness reports for this, presumably because it was so low, 
and the hour was so late.


http://www.cloudbait.com/meteor/data.php?recnum=43810

AMS 1183 was widely seen in Colorado at 2011-10-19 22:17:13 MDT (the 
California report is mistakenly tied to this- it could not have been 
seen from there). It was captured on two cameras and its path shows it 
to be an Earth grazing Orionid.


http://www.cloudbait.com/meteor/data.php?recnum=43837
http://www.cloudbait.com/meteor/data.php?recnum=43883

Things get confusing this time of year, with so many active showers and 
high sporadic activity producing significant fireballs nearly every day. 
It is very important for those logging these events on websites to 
ALWAYS use the date and time, not just the date, when referencing events.


Chris

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Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

On 10/20/2011 12:00 PM, Eric Wichman wrote:

Just a note... The Fort Collins, Colorado meteor/fireball seems to be
unrelated to the Nebraska/South Dakota fireball.

For the 10-19-11, AMS website has the events at 22:15 for the Fort
Collins, CO event, and 03:15 for the SD/NE event.

AMS Event # 1180
AMS Event # 1183

These are two separate events.

Eric


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Re: [meteorite-list] Ft. Collins, CO meteor 19OCT2011

[GeoZay]

>>Just a note... The Fort Collins,  Colorado meteor/fireball seems to be 
unrelated to the Nebraska/South Dakota  fireball.

For the 10-19-11, AMS website has the events at 22:15 for the  Fort 
Collins, CO event, and 03:15 for the SD/NE event.<<

I  wonder if one of those times is Universal Time (UT) ? 
GeoZay  

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[meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge Update

[MexicoDoug]

Dear List Anagrammatists,

There are perfect anagram meteorite pairings out there!  Some real good 
ones!


Though a perfect anagram where the letters of one are rearranged 
exactly into the letters of another withough leaving out any letters on 
either, is not necessarily a winner according to the rules, since 
imperfect anagram pairings are allowed too, though the perfect anagram 
likely will score higher and win anyway!


One very kind list member who is quite expert in anagrams has sent me 
an informational email  (but kindly respected the honor system rule and 
not entered) to prove this fact.


So the last rule is modified,

"If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant who 
can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest interval of

time."

...no longer is necessary;

and replaced by:

If no one figures out a qualifying winning entry otherwise, the winning 
entry will be considered the cleverist rearrangement of all letters of 
a meteorite name with none left over and none additional, into a word 
or a phrase.  Any language is permissable if any listmember can speak 
it fluidly, even if the entrant can't.


This is how Galileo first communicated his discovery of Saturn with its 
rings (which he thought were three zones of light).  He used Latin.  
There are listmembers with acceptable fluidity in Latin, so that's an 
option, too.


The contest is over on Sunday night 11:59 PM (23:50) PDT (Los Angeles 
time), 23 October 2011

Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: MexicoDoug 
To: Meteorite-list 
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:13 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge


Dear List:

"2011" Meteorite Challenge

For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for
meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a
virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  The
prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that beautiful
witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest of
all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to
be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or
some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus
the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming
you the champion:

"METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"

An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to form
another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram
pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you
please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of Galileo,
who was a very accomplished anagrammist.

I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor
have I tried ... but, here's an idea:

Allende / Yelland

If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram
pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain instance
;-)

The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you
can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is ok,
even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule
of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:

For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:

HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING DATA
FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any
cheat programs exist, but I imagine they do.

(1)  Minimum of 4 letters
(2) Numbers are not included, but their letters can be used.  For
example ABCDE ### can be used as simply ABCDE.
(3) Reuse of complete words or components of compound words do not
count.  For example, Northeast Africa and Northwest Africa have no
value, nor would "meteor" and "meteorite" if they were valid, have any
value.
(4) The value of the meteorite anagram is simply the number of reused
letters unless it is a perfect anagram (see (6).
(5) Partial anagrams can be used where only a subset of the letters in
one meteorite's name is used to form another complete meteorite name.
For example, Boaz (NM) is a partial from Bou Azarif (Morocco).  The
score would be the same for Boaz and Zaborzika (Ukraine).
(6) If all letters are used, the score is tripled.  For example, the
value of (5) above is only 4.  But, if there were a meteorite Zoab to
pair with Boaz, the value would be 12.
(7) The official dictionary is the Met Soc Online database, only
official meteorites are permitted.
(8)"Dry Lake", "Mountain", geographical words common to more than one
distinct locality may be dropped or used at the option of the
anagrammatist.  But using entire words or compound word components will
not increase value.
(9) Lame examples not contemplated by the rules may be disqualified at
the sole opinion of the sponsor of this (me).
(10) In the case of a tie value, perfect anagrams trump first, if
neither is perfect, then the submission that shuffles letters m

[meteorite-list] Copper content in meteorites, Image of copper in a meteorite

[Greg Catterton]

Here is a picture of a meteorite we found copper in. With the recent discussion 
of gold and stuff in meteorites, I thought this would be of interest.
Hope everyone is doing well,
Enjoy the pic
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Cu_4copy-1.jpg

Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ft. Collins, CO meteor 19OCT2011

[Eric Wichman]

Just a note... The Fort Collins, Colorado meteor/fireball seems to be 
unrelated to the Nebraska/South Dakota fireball.


For the 10-19-11, AMS website has the events at 22:15 for the Fort 
Collins, CO event, and 03:15 for the SD/NE event.


AMS Event # 1180
AMS Event # 1183

These are two separate events.

Eric


On 10/20/2011 9:33 AM, drtanuki wrote:

Perfect!  Thank you Chris. May I have the coords for your camera?  Thank you in 
advance.  Dirk...Tokyo

--- On Fri, 10/21/11, Chris Peterson  wrote:


From: Chris Peterson
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ft. Collins, CO meteor 19OCT2011
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Friday, October 21, 2011, 1:30 AM
I have a very bright event from the
camera at the Denver Museum of
Nature and Science. It was at 2011-10-19 02:25:00 MDT, and
right on the
horizon at an azimuth of 58°, nearly as bright as the
Moon. Using a
guess/estimate for height suggests the meteor was over the
Middle of
Nowhere, Nebraska, roughly between Denver and Sioux Falls,
SD.

Chris

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On 10/20/2011 10:05 AM, drtanuki wrote:

Bob,  What do you need for a scream?
Please list your scream requirements.

The event was seen in an area approximately 880 miles

X 800 miles X 800 miles; the size of the event is
noteable.  The Lincoln Nebraska Airport video shows
fragmentation.  Several witnesses report
fragmentation.  There is a good chance that the KC
Airport Downtown has a video as well. Manitoba Allsky maybe
caught it?   I haven`t checked with Chris
Peterson but there is a chance he captured it as well?

Space trash unlikely from what I see in the video and

from witness reports... wrong speed and character.

 I say get busy, do your homework and make

some calls.  More reports will filter out later today
when I have time to post them.

Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

Ft. Collins dude hasn`t replied to my clarification

questions.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Munich

[Michael Farmer]

I will be there as usual. 
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 20, 2011, at 7:28 AM, "Peter Davidson"  wrote:

> Greetings Earthlings
> 
> Munich is just a week away and I thought I would let people know that I will 
> be there as usual and if anyone wants to meet up for a beer and a chin-wag, 
> just let me know and I would be delighted to see you.
> 
> Hope to see you soon
> 
> Peter Davidson
> Curator of Minerals
>  
> Department of Natural Sciences
> National Museums Collection Centre
> 242 West Granton Road
> Edinburgh  EH5 1JA
> Scotland
> Tel: 00 44 131 247 4283
> E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk
> 
> The National Museum of Scotland is now open. Thousands of new discoveries in 
> our bigger, better museum. www.nms.ac.uk/scotland 
> 
> 
> National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130
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[meteorite-list] Historic Collection for SALE

[Peter Marmet]

Hello,

I decided to sell each individual of my Historic Meteorite Collection
seperately.

If you are intersted in buying a piece and you accept the market
price, it's: first come - first served.

If you prefer to make an offer, then I will decide within about 10 days.

Pictures of most pieces you can see on my web page:
http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/

Payment please until end of November via Paypal or directly to my bank account.

PLEASE ASK FOR LIST AND PRICES !

Best regards,
Peter

Peter Marmet - IMCA #2747
Bern, Switzerland
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[meteorite-list] AD: ebay auctions ending and store update

[Moritz Karl]

Dear List,

I have 23 auctions ending on Sunday, October 23rd starting at 12:01 p.m.
PDT.

These auctions include:

- Bassikounou individual
- Bells (C2 ungrouped) fragment
- Bencubbin fragment
- Camel Donga individual
- Daule partslice
- Gibeon Sphere
- Seymchan Pallasite Sphere
- Sikhote Alins (oriented button, uncleaned individual, etc.)
- Tenham slice

And a few more pieces. The auctions were either started at $1.99 or at very
reasonable starting bids.
See them all here:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/merchant/meteoriten_W0QQLHQ5fAuctionZ1QQ


I have also added a lot of new items to my ebay store.
You can see all items here:

http://stores.ebay.com/mos-meteorites

Please let me know if you have any questions.
Good Luck to anyone bidding and thank you very much for looking.
Best Wishes,
Moritz Karl
Germany

Visit mo's meteorites at
http://www.m3t3orites.com



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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[valparint]

NWA 1878

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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[meteorite-list] "2011" Meteorite Challenge

[MexicoDoug]

Dear List:

"2011" Meteorite Challenge

For all those who would like to try their hand at hunting for 
meteorites but can't get out into the field, you're invited to try a 
virtual meteorite hunt in the strewn field of all meteorite names.  The 
prize is a token chip off Vesta - Tatahouine, of course, that beautiful 
witnessed fall which is truly unique among meteorites and the rarest of 
all (more on this later, but now for the hunt...), not expecting it to 
be more than a gram; though it will be either sent to the winner or 
some other friend or budding collector as directed by the champ.  Plus 
the champ receives a conjectured priceless signed certificate naming 
you the champion:


"METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST"

An anagram is simply a rearrangement of the letters of one word to form 
another word.  So, the idea is to hunt for a meteorite and its anagram 
pairing.  For example, with numbers, today is: 10/21 (or 21/10 as you 
please).  Rearranging the numbers we get 2011 in the spirit of Galileo, 
who was a very accomplished anagrammist.


I haven't thought of a meteorite name that is a perfect anagram, nor 
have I tried ... but, here's an idea:


Allende / Yelland

If only it were Eelland they would be a perfect meteorite anagram 
pairing.  In Spanish, Y and E are interchangeable in a certain instance 
;-)


The objective of the contest is simple - get the biggest anagram you 
can find.  Finding one meteorite name in mixed up inside another is ok, 
even though all the letters of only one are paired to the other.  Rule 
of common sense, but in case of difficulty with that:


For a satisfactory effort, here are a few rules:

HONOR SYSTEM - NO USE OF ANAGRAM COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND DOWNLOADING DATA 
FOR THAT PURPOSE THOUGH A SPREADSHEET IS FINE.  I don't know if any 
cheat programs exist, but I imagine they do.


(1)  Minimum of 4 letters
(2) Numbers are not included, but their letters can be used.  For 
example ABCDE ### can be used as simply ABCDE.
(3) Reuse of complete words or components of compound words do not 
count.  For example, Northeast Africa and Northwest Africa have no 
value, nor would "meteor" and "meteorite" if they were valid, have any 
value.
(4) The value of the meteorite anagram is simply the number of reused 
letters unless it is a perfect anagram (see (6).
(5) Partial anagrams can be used where only a subset of the letters in 
one meteorite's name is used to form another complete meteorite name.  
For example, Boaz (NM) is a partial from Bou Azarif (Morocco).  The 
score would be the same for Boaz and Zaborzika (Ukraine).
(6) If all letters are used, the score is tripled.  For example, the 
value of (5) above is only 4.  But, if there were a meteorite Zoab to 
pair with Boaz, the value would be 12.
(7) The official dictionary is the Met Soc Online database, only 
official meteorites are permitted.
(8)"Dry Lake", "Mountain", geographical words common to more than one 
distinct locality may be dropped or used at the option of the 
anagrammatist.  But using entire words or compound word components will 
not increase value.
(9) Lame examples not contemplated by the rules may be disqualified at 
the sole opinion of the sponsor of this (me).
(10) In the case of a tie value, perfect anagrams trump first, if 
neither is perfect, then the submission that shuffles letters more wins.


If there is no clear winning entry, the winner will be the entrant who 
can say METEORITIC ANAGRAMMATIST ten times in the shortest interval of 
time.


GOOD LUCK anyone who would like to have fun with this!

Kindest wishes
Doug

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