Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
> What matters most of all is everyone being in *one* place. The problem with Facebook is there are now a million and one different groups, this has split the meteorite community into different places to the point that either you need to monitor 6 different media feeds 24/7 or you are out of the loop. There are few groups worth to look Meteorites (3800 ppl) Meteorite Hunters, Collectors, and Enthusiasts (6500) by Pat Brown and Jason Utas Meteorites, Tektites, Impactites & Ephemera (1700) hold by Mendy ! Meteorite Club (4800) by Alex Folda, John Higgins , Takis Theodossiou Polandmet Meteorites (1200) my own, worth to look becouse Im very "multimedia" guy In fact I dont know why there are so big differences in members. thats enough to be on-line with latest news But most peoples are on the same groups posting same things on them all so You cant miss anything. And You can scroll down the wall, so You can see what was before. 30min a day and You are informed well. So this is a tool and this depends on use how we use it, not matter who made it. Do You think Guns kill or peoples kill using guns. So this is the same useless discusion about Zuckenberg. Email is keeped by Google or Yahoo or whatever. Anyone think here that Google is blessed by God world friendly organization of nice next door guys? They are the same "nazi" like Zuckenberg, Microsoft, or Apple or that evil Amazon. Hey americans, You buy on amazon, You own iphone ? But You hate Facebook :D Interesting. Really. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] The more it fragments the less knowledge and 'community' there will be. The advantage of the metlist is there is pretty much only one metlist, yes, it's an old school way of doing things, and it rests on people making the effort to post and contribute. Facebook does also have massive UI plusses over email, I appreciate people don't like Suckerberger, but we do sooner or later have to face facts pretty much no one under 30 these days uses email outside of work! Cheers, Mark -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list Sent: 15 June 2020 14:26 To: Roberto Vargas Cc: bigjohns...@mail.com; Adam Hupe; metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos HI Roberto, I love ya man, but I gotta tear this post apart. LOL. "Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage with the community." If Zuck had his way, we wouldn't have this freedom. " I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have (video, live feeds, pictures, etc)." FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of the room. For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this functionality. '"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete." Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the medium itself that created it. "However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who cannot or will not change with the times. " If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon, and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite flag proudly. " I believe those members have valuable insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what could be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use Facebook or other social media platforms." Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and how to use it. And I have an active presence on some non-Facebook platforms. My
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
" I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have (video, live feeds, pictures, etc)." FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of the room. My God Michael, dont try to inwent wheel once again. Why You try complicate everything ? Yes You can post Your media on site X, I can post media on site Y, Greg can use Z cloud and post links to them At the end it will be like we need to go somewhere, ofcourse login to our accounts, accept cookies, experience different layont, web page design etc. On FB its all in one, it work good, it work on every platform and device, its for free, fast and never dies. And I completly DONT GIVE A SHIT who own it, what he belives, what he is doing or if he is black or white as long as he dont say that meteorites are illegal on his site. Its a tool like anything else. There is one big limit. Chinese cant use it becouse its banned in china. But its not banned in Morocco or Lybia Can You imagine that I speak with guys from algeria or lybia, they share photos beying in the same moment in the desert ? I can speak with like 50 morocans in real-time asking for new pieces, they ask me for my opinion about their specimens, we chat like good friends even that I have no idea how they looks like. This is power!! The peoples. Here You sit with 100 peoples, read one post a day and You are arguing that its the best medium in the world. Yes it was, 10 years ago. Your chice, I respect, but the best days are gone. You cant disagree with that -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this functionality. '"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete." Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the medium itself that created it. "However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who cannot or will not change with the times. " If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon, and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite flag proudly. " I believe those members have valuable insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what could be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use Facebook or other social media platforms." Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and how to use it. And I have an active presence on some non-Facebook platforms. My apparent beef is not with social media itself, it is with Facebook and it's policies. Ello and Mastodon are better than FB all day long and twice on sundays. "At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of us, while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left here is so small that it is really just an archive). " I was the rest of us. When I first joined FB in early 2009, there was exactly one large-ish meteorite group and just one or two other dealers actively selling in other groups outside that one. We were pretty lonely for a while and I was one of those people (like you) singing the praises of social media and Facebook. Then everybody started coming to FB and the List started getting quieter and quieter. And FB started getting crazier and crazier, and then the algorithms kicked in, and then Zuck took off his mask and showed his true colors. You wanna roll with that guy, despite knowing what he's about? Well, as long as Art keeps the lights turned on (so to speak), I am going to try to help keep this List going. All of the content I used to post on FB will now go here - new fall reports, met bull updates,
[meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
Hello list I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this list dead ? Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info about meteorites and thousand of users. I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification should include few photos of specimen. Not in Encyclopedia of Meteorites but reference photos submited with classification and provided by specimen/main mass holder. When Im sending type specimen to the lab I also need to send them few photos of entire mass wirth scale cube and also photo of cut surface, slice. This will give every meteorite his "face", idea what is NWA 12123214 and if slice I just bough look like reference photo. Every time there is Met Bull update there are many rare specimens but they stay only as number. Sometimes we can find them on ebay or search name in Google we can find specimens in someone website. But this really should look like that ? We have 2020, every morocan in the desert have now smartphone with high quality camera. I get their photos every hour. Photos of incredible specimen. But they can be seen only by few of us. Why not for everyone and forever? Most dealers who submit big ammount of specimens in Met Bull sell online so it is not a problem to require some representative photos of specimen or the biggest mass. You dont have good camera ? Whats the problem? You can find 10 friends with Canon, Nikon or new Iphone to prepare requested pictures the same as You collect all requested informations about Your specimen like date of find, TKW, place of find etc. I realy dont see a problem. This need only some discusion and some good will -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 15? New Falls in the year 2018 - an apparent bombardment
Remember Libya Jan 16, 2018 - Hamburg (H4 chondrite) : Michigan USA Feb 16, 2018 - Ablaketka (H5 chondrite) : Kazakhstan Mar 07, 2018 - "Grays Harbor" (unofficial) (unknown type) : Pacific Ocean (Washington coast, USA) Apr 19, 2018 - Aba Panu (L3-6 chondrite) : Nigeria Jun 01, 2018 - Mangui (L6 chondrite) : China (Hammer) Jun 02, 2018 - "Central Kalahari" (unofficial) (unknown type) : Botswana Jun 21, 2018 - Ozerki (L6 chondrite) : Russia Jul 10, 2018 - Renchen (L5-6 chondrite) : Germany Jul 27, 2018 - "Glendale" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Arizona USA July 27, 2018 - Benenitra (L6 chondrite) : Madagascar Aug 12-17?, 2018 - "Bhakkar" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Pakistan Aug 21, 2018 - Gueltat Zemmour (L4 chondrite) : Morocco Aug 26, 2018 - Libya L6 Chondrite Sep 26, 2018 - Komaki (L6 chondrite) : Japan (Hammer) Oct 28, 2018 - Ksar El Goraane (H5 chondrite) : Morocco Dec 28, 2018 - Mhabes el Hamra (H4/5 chondrite) : Mauritania 21st Century Falls - http://galactic-stone.com/pages/falls -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] -- --- Galactic Stone & Ironworks : www.galactic-stone.com Instagram : www.instagram.com/galacticstone Twitter : www.twitter.com/galacticstone --- __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Libya fall and new website
Hello I look here rarely as I live with others in wonderfull Facebook meteorite universe full of specimen photos, fall news and interesting talks with friends. But tooday is a good day to announce two fantastic news. First is my totaly new website. Its not website anymore, its internet shop. This was lots of work not only with designing but also transfering specimens into new place with new photos and new prices :) This is a big change after 18 years with more or less simple website. https://www.polandmet.com/ Second news is Libya new fall. Well its not new, its 5 months old but still its latest one. This take a while to locate it and transfer to Morocco. Tooday I received 8 selected specimens ... well now only 7... at wide size range so take a look. https://www.polandmet.com/product-category/1-chondrite/libya-new-fall-l6/ Some say I make wonderfull photos so even if You dont buy anything its worth to take a deep look into them. Now I go sleep so dont call me please, especially guyz from Kenya trying to sell me 2 tons of Sericho. :D -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Morasko 175kg - 2nd largest
Hello list I have very special specimen to offer. Its the 2nd largest Morasko iron meteorite IAB. Main mass 260kg is located in Poznan University and its not available. Specimen 175kg its the largest private owned Morasko right now. https://youtu.be/XrqoZnaputQ Im looking for serious collector or museum. Specime is legaly owned with export permission. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD Polandmet collection for SALE
POLANDMET COLLECTION FOR SALE. 94 specimens from the very first NWA 2427. Many long time ago sold out beauties, selected by their unique features like inclusions, crust, CAIs, chondrules. http://www.polandmet.com/_collection.htm Please take a look. Last chance to buy many old numbers -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Old collection Pultusk wanted
I will connect to that question too. But Im looking bad or ugly or bad and ugly but fresh Pultusk. Need slices for medal :) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Hello Collectors, some time ago I asked list members about Pultusk meteorite form Krantz provenance. But I am looking for all Pultusk form old collections (museums or old dealers/collectors). If You have such specimen for sale write to my email illae...@gmail.com All the best Tomasz Jakubowski www.collectingmeteorites.com PTM, IMCA, MetSoc Managing Editor meteorites.pwr.wroc.pl __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrites W0 samples WANTED for research
Just small corrections. 0.1-0.2gram is needed. No more. Dear meteorite friends. Our scientists in Poland looking for TINY samples of W0 L, H, LL chondrites for their researchs. How tiny ? Just 0.05gram internal material. No crust, no troilite just stone matrix. If You have any lose pieces or You can just break something from Your specimen and send me You can be mentioned in publications. :) Maybe You can help. ==[My Adress]== Marcin Cimala Targoniny 30 43-445 Dziegielow POLAND = -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chondrites W0 samples WANTED for research
Dear meteorite friends. Our scientists in Poland looking for TINY samples of W0 L, H, LL chondrites for their researchs. How tiny ? Just 0.05gram internal material. No crust, no troilite just stone matrix. If You have any lose pieces or You can just break something from Your specimen and send me You can be mentioned in publications. :) Maybe You can help. ==[My Adress]== Marcin Cimala Targoniny 30 43-445 Dziegielow POLAND = -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
