Re: [meteorite-list] E-mail failure
https://pairlist2.pair.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2023-October/date.html --- Original Message --- On Friday, October 6th, 2023 at 12:53 PM, Stelvino Vincent via Meteorite-list wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know why I no longer receive the photos from "Meteorite Picture of > the Day". > > How to solve this problem? > > THANKS > > Vincent __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SALE: BUR-ABOR, AN INCOMPARABLE METEORITE SPECIMEN – MAIN MASS
"Bigjohn" Shea rolling on the floor laughing! Now that's one fall I'd rather not witness. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, May 22, 2021 5:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list wrote: > LOL! I guess you know better than the whole nomenclature committee! ROFL! > > Cheers, > John A. Shea, MD > IMCA 3295 > www.bigjohnmeteorites.com > > On 5/22/21 at 2:22 PM, bill k wrote: > > > As usual you miss the point. How can a find be a doubtful fall. It's just > > as ridiculous as the term "witnessed find" as I suggested. If the darn > > thing has been found it had to have fell at some point. Shsh Most > > of these terms are absurd. > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Friday, May 21, 2021 7:51 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list > > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: > > > > > In my estimation, Bur-Arbor likely rests in the category of "Find - > > > Doubtful Fall" or "Find" as defined below. The degree of weathering seen > > > on the mass is unlikely to be from an event in 1997, though an earlier > > > event in the region may be on record somewhere, and thus be loosely > > > connected to the mass. > > > The below is quoted from Michael's link. Very helpful... > > > Cheers, > > > John A. Shea, MD > > > IMCA 3295 > > > www.bigjohnmeteorites.com > > > "The New Categorization System for Falls and Finds: > > > In December, 2014, the NomCom adopted a new system for categorizing falls > > > and finds. Instead of a binary system, the new one has five categories, > > > which can be arranged in order of confidence that a meteorite is an > > > observed fall. > > > The top two categories will comprise meteorites that NomCom determines to > > > be falls, and are subject to the nomenclatural rules for falls: > > > A “Confirmed fall” is a meteorite determined to be a fall beyond > > > reasonable doubt. There was a well-documented fall event, witnessed > > > either visually or with instruments, and collection occurred soon after > > > the event. Physical evidence is consistent with a fresh fall, or, when > > > collection did not occur immediately, convincingly points to a fall at > > > the time of the event. > > > A “Probable fall” is a meteorite found to be a fall by the weight of the > > > evidence, but there remains some degree of doubt. There were observations > > > of an event considered likely to have produced meteorites, but there > > > remains some doubt about whether the collected meteorite is related to > > > the event, or about the nature of the event itself. > > > The bottom three categories will comprise meteorites that NomCom > > > determines to be finds, and are subject to the nomenclatural rules for > > > finds, including application of DCA numbering sequences. > > > A “Find, possible fall” is a meteorite that was submitted with > > > information that may connect it to a fall event, but the evidence was > > > found to be insufficient to accept this claim. There was an observation > > > that seems consistent with a fall event, but there is significant doubt, > > > either about whether the meteorite is connected to the event or about the > > > observations of the event itself. > > > A “Find, doubtful fall” is also a meteorite submitted with information > > > that may connect it to a fall event, but there is a high degree of doubt > > > about whether the meteorite is connected to the event or about the > > > observations of the event itself. > > > A “Find” is a meteorite for which no evidence, or no credible evidence, > > > was submitted concerning the fall circumstances." > > > On 5/21/21 at 7:29 AM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list wrote: > > > From: "Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list" > > > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > Date: May 21, 2021 > > > To: "bill k" billk...@protonmail.com > > > Cc: "Darryl Pitt" museumcenterpi...@gmail.com, > > > "Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SALE: BUR-ABOR, AN INCOMPARABLE METEORITE > > > SPECIMEN – MAIN MASS > > > Bill, please see Microsoft Word - falls and finds - accepted > > > 2-24-2015.docx (usra.edu) for an answer to your question. The > > > Nomenclature Committee of the Meteoritica
Re: [meteorite-list] SALE: BUR-ABOR, AN INCOMPARABLE METEORITE SPECIMEN – MAIN MASS
As usual you miss the point. How can a find be a doubtful fall. It's just as ridiculous as the term "witnessed find" as I suggested. If the darn thing has been found it had to have fell at some point. Shsh Most of these terms are absurd. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, May 21, 2021 7:51 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list wrote: > In my estimation, Bur-Arbor likely rests in the category of "Find - Doubtful > Fall" or "Find" as defined below. The degree of weathering seen on the mass > is unlikely to be from an event in 1997, though an earlier event in the > region may be on record somewhere, and thus be loosely connected to the mass. > The below is quoted from Michael's link. Very helpful... > > Cheers, > John A. Shea, MD > IMCA 3295 > www.bigjohnmeteorites.com > > "The New Categorization System for Falls and Finds: > > In December, 2014, the NomCom adopted a new system for categorizing falls and > finds. Instead of a binary system, the new one has five categories, which can > be arranged in order of confidence that a meteorite is an observed fall. > > The top two categories will comprise meteorites that NomCom determines to be > falls, and are subject to the nomenclatural rules for falls: > > A “Confirmed fall” is a meteorite determined to be a fall beyond reasonable > doubt. There was a well-documented fall event, witnessed either visually or > with instruments, and collection occurred soon after the event. Physical > evidence is consistent with a fresh fall, or, when collection did not occur > immediately, convincingly points to a fall at the time of the event. > > A “Probable fall” is a meteorite found to be a fall by the weight of the > evidence, but there remains some degree of doubt. There were observations of > an event considered likely to have produced meteorites, but there remains > some doubt about whether the collected meteorite is related to the event, or > about the nature of the event itself. > > The bottom three categories will comprise meteorites that NomCom determines > to be finds, and are subject to the nomenclatural rules for finds, including > application of DCA numbering sequences. > > A “Find, possible fall” is a meteorite that was submitted with information > that may connect it to a fall event, but the evidence was found to be > insufficient to accept this claim. There was an observation that seems > consistent with a fall event, but there is significant doubt, either about > whether the meteorite is connected to the event or about the observations of > the event itself. > > A “Find, doubtful fall” is also a meteorite submitted with information that > may connect it to a fall event, but there is a high degree of doubt about > whether the meteorite is connected to the event or about the observations of > the event itself. > > A “Find” is a meteorite for which no evidence, or no credible evidence, was > submitted concerning the fall circumstances." > > On 5/21/21 at 7:29 AM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list wrote: > > From: "Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list" > > Date: May 21, 2021 > To: "bill k" > Cc: "Darryl Pitt" , > "Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SALE: BUR-ABOR, AN INCOMPARABLE METEORITE > SPECIMEN – MAIN MASS > Bill, please see Microsoft Word - falls and finds - accepted 2-24-2015.docx > (usra.edu) for an answer to your question. The Nomenclature Committee of the > Meteoritical Society maintains these definitions. > > -Michael in so. Cal. > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 4:44 PM bill k via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > > "Bur-Abor is not considered an “unwitnessed fall” by anyone as no such > > designation exists. > > > > Is there an "official" designation for "witnessed find"? I mean it is > > implied and should go without saying... but is it an officially recognized > > term? > > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 6:45 AM, Darryl Pitt via Meteorite-list > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Elizabeth, > > > > > > Bur-Abor is not considered an “unwitnessed fall” by anyone as no such > > > designation exists. The features of this meteorite are consistent with a > > > residency on Earth of at least decades — if not centuries...or far more; > > > Bur-Abor is an outstanding, highly weathered meteorite. Please remedy as > > > we all get hurt when the line between puffing and misrepresent
Re: [meteorite-list] SALE: BUR-ABOR, AN INCOMPARABLE METEORITE SPECIMEN – MAIN MASS
"Bur-Abor is not considered an “unwitnessed fall” by anyone as no such designation exists. Is there an "official" designation for "witnessed find"? I mean it is implied and should go without saying... but is it an officially recognized term? Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 6:45 AM, Darryl Pitt via Meteorite-list wrote: > Hi Elizabeth, > > Bur-Abor is not considered an “unwitnessed fall” by anyone as no such > designation exists. The features of this meteorite are consistent with a > residency on Earth of at least decades — if not centuries...or far more; > Bur-Abor is an outstanding, highly weathered meteorite. Please remedy as we > all get hurt when the line between puffing and misrepresentation is blurred. > > > On May 18, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Elizabeth Grose via Meteorite-list > > wrote: > > > > NOW AVAILABLE AT AUCTION > > BUR-ABOR, AN INCOMPARABLE METEORITE SPECIMEN – MAIN MASS > > Iron, medium octahedrite IIIAB > > Northeastern Province, Kenyahttps://www.bonhams.com/auctions/27190/lot/11/ > > > > A thrilling 600-pound main mass, the Bur-Abor meteorite main mass may > > arguably be classed at the top of all large iron meteorites to be offered > > at auction. Bur -Abor was found in Northeastern Kenya in a local family's > > garden, after it fell on Nov. 27, 1997. Considered an unwitnessed fall, > > Bur-Abor boasts numerous distinguished qualities. > > > > The present main mass is replete with regmaglypts and large scoops while > > also displaying the rarely seen feature of orientation. These distinctive > > features were caused by ablation as the meteorite coursed through Earth's > > atmosphere. One can see the surface area where elongated, parallel > > thumbprints indicate oriented flight, which melted grooves into the > > surface, mirroring each other in shape and size. Created by millions of > > years in the heavy metal core of an asteroid, it weighs a massive 274 > > kilograms and has never been cleaned or wire brushed; its appearance is > > exactly as it was the day it was found. > > > > After its discovery, a portion of Bur-Abor was taken to the Natural History > > Museum in London. The present offering is the main mass. Iron meteorites of > > this size and beauty are generally only seen in world renowned museums and > > a few university display collections. The magnificent piece is offered on a > > rotating custom steel stand. Weighing 274kg (602.8 lbs). Measuring 32 x 20 > > x 15 in > > View it online: https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/27190/lot/11/ > > For inquiries: tom.lindg...@bonhams.com > > > > > > > > > > > > This email is intended solely for the named recipient(s) only. It may > > contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not one of > > the intended recipients, please notify the sender immediately and destroy > > this email. You must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance > > upon it. Whilst all efforts are made to safeguard emails, Bonhams cannot > > guarantee that attachments are virus free or compatible with your systems > > and does not accept any liability in respect of viruses or computer > > problems experienced. Any views expressed in this message are those of the > > individual sender, except where specifically stated to be the view of > > Bonhams, its subsidiaries or associates. When addressed to our clients, any > > opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the relevant > > Bonhams terms of business.http://www.bonhams.com/terms > > > > Bonhams 1793 Ltd, Montpelier Galleries, Montpelier Street, London, SW7 1HH. > > Incorporated in England. Registered Number 4326560 > > > > Bonhams SAM, Le Beau Rivage, 9 Ave d'Ostende, Monaco MC 98000 Commerce > > Register No. 92S02808 > > > > Bonhams GmbH, Maximilianstrasse 52, 80538 Munchen Handelsregister-Nr 102178 > > > > Bonhams France SAS, 4 rue de la Paix, 75002 Paris, France > > > > Bonhams (Hong Kong) Ltd, Suite 2001 20/F, One Pacific Place, 88 Queensway > > Admiralty, Hong Kong, Registration no. : 1426522 > > > > Bonhams (Europe) SA, 10, rue Etienne-Dumont, 1204 Geneva, Switzerland, > > Registration no. : CH-660-1356997-8 > > > > Bonhams & Butterfields Auctioneers Corporation, 580 Madison Avenue, New > > York, NY 10022, NYC DCA License No. > > 2077070__ > > > > EXTREMELY RARE MARTIAN AND LUNAR MAIN MASS METEORITES > > https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/27190/ > > Coming to auction in Bonhams Meteorites Online sale. Browse 90+ lots of > > superb planetary meteorite specimens & impact memorabilia, including rare > > main mass Martian and Lunar meteorites. > > > > Bid online May 18-28 at Bonhams : Meteorites Online > > https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/27190/ > > __ > > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >
[meteorite-list] AD 61g Park Forest
Recovered hours after the fall. Lots of character. $2135 https://postimg.cc/gallery/DFdRSgg __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Modern Burnishing
It seems they got your attention despite their inaccuate terminology. Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, August 14, 2020 4:17 AM, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list wrote: > I saw that too Paul. I think I saw it once before a while back, being > offered. I have never seen this shaping before either. Very unusual, but I > would guess it must be terrestrial weathering influenced by some sort of > internal structure...e.g. perhaps melt. I took the phrase "modern burnishing" > to be that it had been cleaned in some way to remove calichebut a vague > description. > > Graham > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 6:42 AM Paul Gessler via Meteorite-list > wrote: > >> Want everyone's opinion / on this highly unusual morphology. >> I don't doubt it is a real meteorite at all just that one side looks altered >> or is HUGELY UNIQUE >> Christies is currently selling it and gives a cryptic explanation for its >> shape as "Modern burnishing" >> What the hell does that mean exactly? >> they also mention it could be naturally ventifacted.??? >> >> Either way I have never seen anything quite like it in the meteorite world. >> >> Anyone else have an explanation ... please chime in on this. >> >> https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/deep-impact-lunar-rare-meteorites/evoking-sculpture-ken-price-exotic-meteorite-morphology-nwa-13203-38/82821 >> >> Thanks >> Paul Gessler >> >> __ >> >> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the >> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
I don't understand why anyone would "volunteer" to have their souls dissected by Facebook. Years ago, after looking at Facebook and the thing they laughingly call a privacy policy, I was chilled to the bone. What they do is insidious and dehumanizing. We have choices. Cyber lobotomy isn't an option. __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
