Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen? ONE MORE TIME ....
Elton and list, Elton wrote; "What punishment are you advocating?" I don't want anyone punished, I just would like to see the IMCA members use a little honesty in there descriptions so they do not make us all look bad. : ) I have noticed, NONE of the big dealers are tricking people into looking at their stuff. Mike Farmer uses the word "large" and puts the weight in there too! He sells a lot of meteorites, proving to me, that you do not need to trick people to sell meteorites. And this thing turned into an IMCA discussion, it did not start out that way!!! Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier <>< The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: E.J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tom aka James Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: metlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen? ONE MORE TIME > Hey Folks! Where do we conduct IMCA related business? ..The IMCA > mailing list of course!! > > (I am suggesting to the BOD (board of directors) at IMCA, that they > adopt a policy that ALL IMCA business be restricted to the IMCA list > unless specifically authorized otherwise. This Witch Hunt is out of > control Ag!H!) > > Tom aka James Knudson wrote: > > > > > Lets say someone new goes on ebay and sees a 2000g Campo described as > > "HUGE" He gets it and is thrilled with this Huge Campo. > > <-NOTE: he is thrilled you said so yourself > > He gets the "BUG" and goes back to Ebay to look around. This time he > finds a 94lb Campo, but his campo was huge? So what is a buyer to think? > DON"T TRUST THEM DISHONEST IMCA MEMBERS, that whole bunch are full of > #&%$(# ! ) Now what, buy from none IMCA members, OK, and it turns > out to be slag! Oh well, this meteorite collecting thing sucks! You can > not trust anyone! > > I see you are impassioned about this but, has anyone come to you and > lodged a specific complaint? Or is this a debate about the number of > angels who can dance on the head of a pin? What punishment are you > advocating? Stoning them with their own auction? lol Tom you are old > enough to know that to men size is relative and subject to inflation in > their imaginations!! I don't see the "beef"! > > > Thanks, Tom > > wondering if I should be the proudest member of the IMCA 6168 > > Well Frankly, I have always wondered how you got that title. I didn't > get the notice of competition! Not that I care who claims it, but how > can you attack other's freedom of expression and use the self proclaimed > title of "proudest member"? Do you see my point? Seems you are saying > that it is wrong only if it isn't your wording. (Yeah I know I sound > harsh but Don't wager it if you aren't willing to lose it and not whine.) > > All kidding aside now. > > ONE MORE TIME: IMCA Business on IMCA net!!! Why is that such a hard > concept to follow? Post to your hearts content overthere. > > IMCA has a procedure for approaching the sellers of questionable auctions. > IMCA has a procedure of taking up complaints against members who are > accused of violating the IMCA policies and the BOD will investigate and > decide who is in violation not the member. > > That said, What do you want the meteorite central list members to do for > you? > > Elton and Oldie BE > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen? ONE MORE TIME ....
...Hey Folks! Where do we conduct IMCA related business? ..The IMCA mailing list of course!! (I am suggesting to the BOD (board of directors) at IMCA, that they adopt a policy that ALL IMCA business be restricted to the IMCA list unless specifically authorized otherwise. This Witch Hunt is out of control Ag!H!) Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Lets say someone new goes on ebay and sees a 2000g Campo described as "HUGE" He gets it and is thrilled with this Huge Campo. <-NOTE: he is thrilled you said so yourself He gets the "BUG" and goes back to Ebay to look around. This time he finds a 94lb Campo, but his campo was huge? So what is a buyer to think? DON"T TRUST THEM DISHONEST IMCA MEMBERS, that whole bunch are full of #&%$(# ! ) Now what, buy from none IMCA members, OK, and it turns out to be slag! Oh well, this meteorite collecting thing sucks! You can not trust anyone! I see you are impassioned about this but, has anyone come to you and lodged a specific complaint? Or is this a debate about the number of angels who can dance on the head of a pin? What punishment are you advocating? Stoning them with their own auction? lol Tom you are old enough to know that to men size is relative and subject to inflation in their imaginations!! I don't see the "beef"! Thanks, Tom wondering if I should be the proudest member of the IMCA 6168 Well Frankly, I have always wondered how you got that title. I didn't get the notice of competition! Not that I care who claims it, but how can you attack other's freedom of expression and use the self proclaimed title of "proudest member"? Do you see my point? Seems you are saying that it is wrong only if it isn't your wording. (Yeah I know I sound harsh but Don't wager it if you aren't willing to lose it and not whine.) All kidding aside now. ONE MORE TIME: IMCA Business on IMCA net!!! Why is that such a hard concept to follow? Post to your hearts content overthere. IMCA has a procedure for approaching the sellers of questionable auctions. IMCA has a procedure of taking up complaints against members who are accused of violating the IMCA policies and the BOD will investigate and decide who is in violation not the member. That said, What do you want the meteorite central list members to do for you? Elton and Oldie BE __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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and Dave said... "I personally > would regard 0.25g of Calcalong Creek as 'huge'!" dave > IMCA#0092 Just ask Norbert Classen. He HAS a huge 0.25 gram specimen of Calcalong Creek, and it is awesome!!! another dave, IMCA 2725 __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello all, why can't people write 1500g Campo in their description instead of saying huge Campo. Instead, they make people look at the auction to see what the sellers idea of huge is. What would ebay be like if everyone simply wrote "meteorite" in the description, you would have to look at every auction to find what you are looking for. I don't want to look at every auction to find the size I am looking for. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier <>< The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen? > and if you find a 0.01 gr. of Nogata is extra > Hugebut for me is many many huge a 3.92 gr. slice > of Barbotan, my birthday meteorite...all collectors > have a personal scale for meteorites. > Regards > > Matteo > > --- Dave Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Personally and practically, a 2kg meteorite of any > > type usually I regard as > > huge' mainly because it would have cost me a lot of > > money - I have been > > collecting for a few years and I don't have anything > > approaching 2kg in size > > so for me 'huge' is an appropriate adjective! > > Also, I would, if I were that buyer, look around so > > see what else was on > > offer in order go guesstimate the correct sort of > > price, and decide that if > > it is good value and looks good then ok, it may not > > be a 3/4 ton Otumba as > > in the NHM (London) but for domestic collections it > > is pretty substantial. > > It is all relative! > > But I agree with Tom's last statement that the > > perhaps the seller ought to > > check out what 'huge' is relative to the rock he is > > selling. I personally > > would regard 0.25g of Calcalong Creek as 'huge'! > > > > > > Research, that is the key, both for buyers and > > sellers! > > > > thanks for your indulgence > > > > > > dave > > > > > > IMCA#0092 > > > > ---Original Message--- > > > > From: Tom aka James Knudson > > Date: Friday, October 10, 2003 20:45:46 > > To: Howard Wu; Dave Harris; metlist > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen? > > > > Hello List, Please correct me if I am wrong! Please > > try to be polite when > > doing so! : ) > > I think it hurts us all when some one uses > > misleading tactics to sell > > meteorites. Why do I think that? I will tell you. > > Ebay is by far the best, > > cheapest and easiest place to get meteorites. Lets > > say someone new goes on > > ebay and sees a 2000g Campo described as "HUGE" and > > looks around and there > > is no Campo larger on ebay at the time, the buyer > > goes back to the auction > > and finds a IMCA link, clicks on it and learns what > > a honest bunch of > > sellers IMCA members are. The new buyer even clicks > > on a few links and does > > not see a Campo that big on any of the sites. The > > buyer will feel like he is > > getting a Huge Campo at a great price. He goes back > > to the auction and uses > > Buy it now. He gets it and is thrilled with this > > Huge Campo. > > He gets the "BUG" and goes back to Ebay to look > > around. This time he finds > > a 94lb Campo, but his campo was huge? So what is a > > buyer to think? DON"T > > TRUST THEM DISHONEST IMCA MEMBERS, that whole bunch > > are full of #&%$(# ! > > > > Now what, buy from none IMCA members, OK, and it > > turns out to be slag! Oh > > well, this meteorite collecting thing sucks! You can > > not trust anyone! > > I do know, one important part of selling, is you > > need buyers. If no one > > wants to buy meteorites, no one can sell them!!! > > I live in AZ, and it is still summer here, still in > > the high 90's, to hot > > for GB, so all my meteorite hunting is done on ebay! > > I am just telling you > > all of my hunting adventures. : ) > > All I am trying to get across is that honesty is > > the best policy. If you > > have a 2k Holbrook, tell people it is huge!!! If you > > have a 2k campo, say it > > is nice sized or something, save HUGE for the huge > > Campos! > > Thanks, Tom > > wondering if I should be the proudest member of the > > IMCA 6168 > > - Original Message - > > From: Howard Wu > > To: Dave Harris ; metlist > > Sent: Friday, October
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and if you find a 0.01 gr. of Nogata is extra Hugebut for me is many many huge a 3.92 gr. slice of Barbotan, my birthday meteorite...all collectors have a personal scale for meteorites. Regards Matteo --- Dave Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally and practically, a 2kg meteorite of any > type usually I regard as > huge' mainly because it would have cost me a lot of > money - I have been > collecting for a few years and I don't have anything > approaching 2kg in size > so for me 'huge' is an appropriate adjective! > Also, I would, if I were that buyer, look around so > see what else was on > offer in order go guesstimate the correct sort of > price, and decide that if > it is good value and looks good then ok, it may not > be a 3/4 ton Otumba as > in the NHM (London) but for domestic collections it > is pretty substantial. > It is all relative! > But I agree with Tom's last statement that the > perhaps the seller ought to > check out what 'huge' is relative to the rock he is > selling. I personally > would regard 0.25g of Calcalong Creek as 'huge'! > > > Research, that is the key, both for buyers and > sellers! > > thanks for your indulgence > > > dave > > > IMCA#0092 > > ---Original Message--- > > From: Tom aka James Knudson > Date: Friday, October 10, 2003 20:45:46 > To: Howard Wu; Dave Harris; metlist > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen? > > Hello List, Please correct me if I am wrong! Please > try to be polite when > doing so! : ) > I think it hurts us all when some one uses > misleading tactics to sell > meteorites. Why do I think that? I will tell you. > Ebay is by far the best, > cheapest and easiest place to get meteorites. Lets > say someone new goes on > ebay and sees a 2000g Campo described as "HUGE" and > looks around and there > is no Campo larger on ebay at the time, the buyer > goes back to the auction > and finds a IMCA link, clicks on it and learns what > a honest bunch of > sellers IMCA members are. The new buyer even clicks > on a few links and does > not see a Campo that big on any of the sites. The > buyer will feel like he is > getting a Huge Campo at a great price. He goes back > to the auction and uses > Buy it now. He gets it and is thrilled with this > Huge Campo. > He gets the "BUG" and goes back to Ebay to look > around. This time he finds > a 94lb Campo, but his campo was huge? So what is a > buyer to think? DON"T > TRUST THEM DISHONEST IMCA MEMBERS, that whole bunch > are full of #&%$(# ! > > Now what, buy from none IMCA members, OK, and it > turns out to be slag! Oh > well, this meteorite collecting thing sucks! You can > not trust anyone! > I do know, one important part of selling, is you > need buyers. If no one > wants to buy meteorites, no one can sell them!!! > I live in AZ, and it is still summer here, still in > the high 90's, to hot > for GB, so all my meteorite hunting is done on ebay! > I am just telling you > all of my hunting adventures. : ) > All I am trying to get across is that honesty is > the best policy. If you > have a 2k Holbrook, tell people it is huge!!! If you > have a 2k campo, say it > is nice sized or something, save HUGE for the huge > Campos! > Thanks, Tom > wondering if I should be the proudest member of the > IMCA 6168 > - Original Message - > From: Howard Wu > To: Dave Harris ; metlist > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen? > > > I joined this list in part so I wouldn't be so > stupid about faux meteorites > or over priced scams. > > Howard Wu > > Dave Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I have to throw in my 2g's worth here - seems that > some people on the list > spend too much of their time trawling eBay looking > for auctions to criticise > and debunk and publish their 'findings' to the list. > Fine in principle, but we are not here to police > eBay - I think that "Caveat > Emptor" should prevail here. If anyone is naive or > stupid enough to spend > thousands of bucks on a so-called 'meteorite' and > from a supplier who doesn > t sport the IMCA label then so be it. > > Like a lot of people, I find the exceptional ripoffs > very funny and I am > quite happy to have my attention drawn to it, but on > the whole these > auctions for faux meteorites are all a bit sad, > desperate and not really > funny. > > Seems to me that every Metlist digest I get now has > a "look at this e
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Personally and practically, a 2kg meteorite of any type usually I regard as 'huge' mainly because it would have cost me a lot of money - I have been collecting for a few years and I don't have anything approaching 2kg in size, so for me 'huge' is an appropriate adjective! Also, I would, if I were that buyer, look around so see what else was on offer in order go guesstimate the correct sort of price, and decide that if it is good value and looks good then ok, it may not be a 3/4 ton Otumba as in the NHM (London) but for domestic collections it is pretty substantial. It is all relative! But I agree with Tom's last statement that the perhaps the seller ought to check out what 'huge' is relative to the rock he is selling. I personally would regard 0.25g of Calcalong Creek as 'huge'! Research, that is the key, both for buyers and sellers! thanks for your indulgence dave IMCA#0092 ---Original Message--- From: Tom aka James Knudson Date: Friday, October 10, 2003 20:45:46 To: Howard Wu; Dave Harris; metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen? Hello List, Please correct me if I am wrong! Please try to be polite when doing so! : ) I think it hurts us all when some one uses misleading tactics to sell meteorites. Why do I think that? I will tell you. Ebay is by far the best, cheapest and easiest place to get meteorites. Lets say someone new goes on ebay and sees a 2000g Campo described as "HUGE" and looks around and there is no Campo larger on ebay at the time, the buyer goes back to the auction and finds a IMCA link, clicks on it and learns what a honest bunch of sellers IMCA members are. The new buyer even clicks on a few links and does not see a Campo that big on any of the sites. The buyer will feel like he is getting a Huge Campo at a great price. He goes back to the auction and uses Buy it now. He gets it and is thrilled with this Huge Campo. He gets the "BUG" and goes back to Ebay to look around. This time he finds a 94lb Campo, but his campo was huge? So what is a buyer to think? DON"T TRUST THEM DISHONEST IMCA MEMBERS, that whole bunch are full of #&%$(# ! Now what, buy from none IMCA members, OK, and it turns out to be slag! Oh well, this meteorite collecting thing sucks! You can not trust anyone! I do know, one important part of selling, is you need buyers. If no one wants to buy meteorites, no one can sell them!!! I live in AZ, and it is still summer here, still in the high 90's, to hot for GB, so all my meteorite hunting is done on ebay! I am just telling you all of my hunting adventures. : ) All I am trying to get across is that honesty is the best policy. If you have a 2k Holbrook, tell people it is huge!!! If you have a 2k campo, say it is nice sized or something, save HUGE for the huge Campos! Thanks, Tomwondering if I should be the proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Howard Wu To: Dave Harris ; metlist Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen? I joined this list in part so I wouldn't be so stupid about faux meteorites or over priced scams. Howard WuDave Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,I have to throw in my 2g's worth here - seems that some people on the listspend too much of their time trawling eBay looking for auctions to criticiseand debunk and publish their 'findings' to the list.Fine in principle, but we are not here to police eBay - I think that "CaveatEmptor" should prevail here. If anyone is naive or stupid enough to spendthousands of bucks on a so-called 'meteorite' and from a supplier who doesnt sport the IMCA label then so be it. Like a lot of people, I find the exceptional ripoffs very funny and I amquite happy to have my attention drawn to it, but on the whole theseauctions for faux meteorites are all a bit sad, desperate and not reallyfunny.Seems to me that every Metlist digest I get now has a "look at this eBayauction..." gleefully pointing out some stupid ad - Can I suggest thatperhaps one could spend one's time better employed?frustratingly frustrated!daveIMCA #0092__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen?
Hello List, Please correct me if I am wrong! Please try to be polite when doing so! : ) I think it hurts us all when some one uses misleading tactics to sell meteorites. Why do I think that? I will tell you. Ebay is by far the best, cheapest and easiest place to get meteorites. Lets say someone new goes on ebay and sees a 2000g Campo described as "HUGE" and looks around and there is no Campo larger on ebay at the time, the buyer goes back to the auction and finds a IMCA link, clicks on it and learns what a honest bunch of sellers IMCA members are. The new buyer even clicks on a few links and does not see a Campo that big on any of the sites. The buyer will feel like he is getting a Huge Campo at a great price. He goes back to the auction and uses Buy it now. He gets it and is thrilled with this Huge Campo. He gets the "BUG" and goes back to Ebay to look around. This time he finds a 94lb Campo, but his campo was huge? So what is a buyer to think? DON"T TRUST THEM DISHONEST IMCA MEMBERS, that whole bunch are full of #&%$(# ! Now what, buy from none IMCA members, OK, and it turns out to be slag! Oh well, this meteorite collecting thing sucks! You can not trust anyone! I do know, one important part of selling, is you need buyers. If no one wants to buy meteorites, no one can sell them!!! I live in AZ, and it is still summer here, still in the high 90's, to hot for GB, so all my meteorite hunting is done on ebay! I am just telling you all of my hunting adventures. : ) All I am trying to get across is that honesty is the best policy. If you have a 2k Holbrook, tell people it is huge!!! If you have a 2k campo, say it is nice sized or something, save HUGE for the huge Campos! Thanks, Tomwondering if I should be the proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Howard Wu To: Dave Harris ; metlist Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen? I joined this list in part so I wouldn't be so stupid about faux meteorites or over priced scams. Howard WuDave Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,I have to throw in my 2g's worth here - seems that some people on the listspend too much of their time trawling eBay looking for auctions to criticiseand debunk and publish their 'findings' to the list.Fine in principle, but we are not here to police eBay - I think that "CaveatEmptor" should prevail here. If anyone is naive or stupid enough to spendthousands of bucks on a so-called 'meteorite' and from a supplier who doesnt sport the IMCA label then so be it. Like a lot of people, I find the exceptional ripoffs very funny and I amquite happy to have my attention drawn to it, but on the whole theseauctions for faux meteorites are all a bit sad, desperate and not reallyfunny.Seems to me that every Metlist digest I get now has a "look at this eBayauction..." gleefully pointing out some stupid ad - Can I suggest thatperhaps one could spend one's time better employed?frustratingly frustrated!daveIMCA #0092__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger
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I joined this list in part so I wouldn't be so stupid about faux meteorites or over priced scams. Howard WuDave Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,I have to throw in my 2g's worth here - seems that some people on the listspend too much of their time trawling eBay looking for auctions to criticiseand debunk and publish their 'findings' to the list.Fine in principle, but we are not here to police eBay - I think that "CaveatEmptor" should prevail here. If anyone is naive or stupid enough to spendthousands of bucks on a so-called 'meteorite' and from a supplier who doesnt sport the IMCA label then so be it. Like a lot of people, I find the exceptional ripoffs very funny and I amquite happy to have my attention drawn to it, but on the whole theseauctions for faux meteorites are all a bit sad, desperate and not reallyfunny.Seems to me that every Metlist digest I get now has a "look at this eBayauction..." gleefully pointing out some stupid ad - Can I suggest thatperhaps one could spend one's time better employed?frustratingly frustrated!daveIMCA #0092__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listWant to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger
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Thanks Dave I liked the way you phrased that. I have been bypassing some of the posts for the more interesting and informative ones like Mike's and Atul's. My minor was anthropology, so I find hearing about India interesting. Its also a look into what can be expected when one travels for any reason. When one travels abroad, searching for meteorites or just for pleasure, one really needs to keep in mind (and an open mind at that) that you will often leave the "western" world behind and enter into a civilization that is so different that its hard to comprehend. I wish I had the fore-sight when I was younger to search for meteorites when I was overseas. But I enjoyed those far away lands all the same. This list has opened the world up for me again and although I do travel and camp a lot here in the northwest, its not the same as being in a non-western country. I would like to hear of some of the other major meteorite hunting peoples exploits in distant lands. Maybe, if they read the list, they will post some of their travels and enlighten those less fortunate or willing. I find that as much fun as the meteorites they find and buy. Mark - Original Message - From: "Dave Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "metlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:01 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen? Hi, I have to throw in my 2g's worth here - seems that some people on the list spend too much of their time trawling eBay looking for auctions to criticise and debunk and publish their 'findings' to the list. Fine in principle, but we are not here to police eBay - I think that "Caveat Emptor" should prevail here. If anyone is naive or stupid enough to spend thousands of bucks on a so-called 'meteorite' and from a supplier who doesn t sport the IMCA label then so be it. Like a lot of people, I find the exceptional ripoffs very funny and I am quite happy to have my attention drawn to it, but on the whole these auctions for faux meteorites are all a bit sad, desperate and not really funny. Seems to me that every Metlist digest I get now has a "look at this eBay auction..." gleefully pointing out some stupid ad - Can I suggest that perhaps one could spend one's time better employed? frustratingly frustrated! dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] eBay policemen?
Hi, I have to throw in my 2g's worth here - seems that some people on the list spend too much of their time trawling eBay looking for auctions to criticise and debunk and publish their 'findings' to the list. Fine in principle, but we are not here to police eBay - I think that "Caveat Emptor" should prevail here. If anyone is naive or stupid enough to spend thousands of bucks on a so-called 'meteorite' and from a supplier who doesn t sport the IMCA label then so be it. Like a lot of people, I find the exceptional ripoffs very funny and I am quite happy to have my attention drawn to it, but on the whole these auctions for faux meteorites are all a bit sad, desperate and not really funny. Seems to me that every Metlist digest I get now has a "look at this eBay auction..." gleefully pointing out some stupid ad - Can I suggest that perhaps one could spend one's time better employed? frustratingly frustrated! dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
