Re: [meteorite-list] Where are the thin section experts?

2009-10-27 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,

Carl suggested that I list everyones guesses as to what they think
this meteorite will be classified as. Here is a partial list, (as I
will be adding to it ) many meteoriticists and collectors have seen
this stone, here are some of the brave souls that have dared to
venture a guess.

Come on make a guess if you haven't already.

If I have misquoted your guess or you would like to add (or change ) a
guess please let me know.

List of current guesses here,
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/rubengarciasmeteorite.htm


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Re: [meteorite-list] Where are the thin section experts?

2009-10-27 Thread Greg Stanley

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Ruben:

What is the scale of the thin section you posted?
Greg S.


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 Hi all=2C

 Carl suggested that I list everyones guesses as to what they think
 this meteorite will be classified as. Here is a partial list=2C (as I
 will be adding to it ) many meteoriticists and collectors have seen
 this stone=2C here are some of the brave souls that have dared to
 venture a guess.

 Come on make a guess if you haven't already.

 If I have misquoted your guess or you would like to add (or change ) a
 guess please let me know.

 List of current guesses here=2C
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/rubengarciasmeteorite.htm


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Re: [meteorite-list] Where are the thin section experts?

2009-10-27 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Ruben and List members,

My eyes are calibrated for Lunaites right now having just returned from a 
Mojave hunt. I trained my eyes before the deep desert trip in hopes of actually 
finding one. After hiking 62 miles last week, I did find a few breccias, some 
fossil camel bones, an ordinary chondrite and maybe a weathered carbonaceous 
chondrite.  We even found a stolen vehicle from Utah stashed in a box canyon 
which we reported.  The police dispatcher was not ready for exact GPS 
coordinates though.

With my eyes still calibrated in hopes of finding a North American Lunar, my 
first guess is a Mesosiderite. With that said, I am certainly no expert on 
thin-sections but do enjoy observing them. I looked for triple-junctions and 
did not see any in the thin-section image so I do not believe it to be anything 
primitive like a Winoniate, Lodranite or Acapulcolite. I see no relic 
chondrules either. If the opaque areas are metal or oxides and not chromite, 
then there seems to be too much  for a  Diogenite.

That's what makes finds like Ruben's exciting, you do not know what you have 
until the minerals are recognized in a laboratory.  In any case, it is indeed a 
rare find.  My blistered feet are testimony to how difficult any meteorite is  
to find, congratulations!

Please let us know what the laboratory reports, 

Best Regards,

Adam






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Subject: [meteorite-list] Where are the thin section experts?

Hi all,

The disclaimer: My main purpose for posting this is because I know
very little about achondrite meteorites. This is because (as a general
rule) I only collect what I find, and though I've found lots of
meteorites this is my first achondrite find.

As most already know this find is currently being classified by
Laurence Garvie at ASU. However, while we wait for the official
classification I thought it would be fun and enlightening to show the
section and see if the guesses change from before. It would be great
to hear from some of the great minds on this forum - Ted Bunch, the
Hupe's, etc.. - but any ones guess is welcome and interesting to me.

According to the (4) meteoriticists that have seen the thin section -
it is NOT a pallasite or chondrite. However, no one can definitively
ID this meteorite instead they gave a few guesses - primitive
achondrite like.

This thin section was pictured with a home made cross polarized light
set-up I made. It’s not the best but I hope it's good enough to give
an idea.

Look here:
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/rubengarciasmeteorite.htm

Meteorite picutres as found/cut and polished
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm

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[meteorite-list] Where are the thin section experts?

2009-10-27 Thread bernd . pauli
Just like Adam, I've been desperately looking for triple junctions, ... none :-(
Unless it is something anomalous my recent guess (olivine diogenite) is
wrong because diogenites do have triple junctions!

I've been looking for chondrules or fragments of chondrules, ... none :-(
Metal-rich + absence of chondrules, does that look like a CH or a CB?

I would expect to find chondrules in a CH chondrite and I would expect
to find larger pyroxenes in a CB chondrite (just think of Gujba, for example!)

*If* the interference colors are correct, this thin section is excessively rich 
in
brownish pyroxene, and, another *if* it is orthopyroxene, we might be looking
at a metal-rich (anomalous) aubrite.

Oh, well, ...

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Where are the thin section experts?

2009-10-27 Thread Ruben Garcia
Adam, Bernd, Greg, and List members,

Adam, thanks for posting your guess and congratulations on your recent
finds. You say you are no expert (with thin sections) but I know that
you have seen more than a few rare meteorites – your opinion is
valued!

I have been hitting the dry lake beds nearly every weekend (mainly in
winter months) for several years now, and while I’ve made some great
finds I’m sure this will be my best. Sonny and I join you, (along with
a few others) in the race to see who will find the first American
lunar. It will happen, in fact he and I already have lunar looking (at
least to my untrained eye) contenders.

Bernd,

You too have seen and know a lot more about rare meteorites than I and
yes I am learning a lot from all the responses.

Greg,
As to your question about scale the thin section in on a regular sized
(thin section) slide and in the picture the edges can be seen so that
should give an idea.


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[meteorite-list] Where are the thin section experts?

2009-10-26 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,

The disclaimer: My main purpose for posting this is because I know
very little about achondrite meteorites. This is because (as a general
rule) I only collect what I find, and though I've found lots of
meteorites this is my first achondrite find.

As most already know this find is currently being classified by
Laurence Garvie at ASU. However, while we wait for the official
classification I thought it would be fun and enlightening to show the
section and see if the guesses change from before. It would be great
to hear from some of the great minds on this forum - Ted Bunch, the
Hupe's, etc.. - but any ones guess is welcome and interesting to me.

According to the (4) meteoriticists that have seen the thin section -
it is NOT a pallasite or chondrite. However, no one can definitively
ID this meteorite instead they gave a few guesses - primitive
achondrite like.

This thin section was pictured with a home made cross polarized light
set-up I made. It’s not the best but I hope it's good enough to give
an idea.

Look here:
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/rubengarciasmeteorite.htm

Meteorite picutres as found/cut and polished
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm

-- 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Where are the thin section experts?

2009-10-26 Thread Greg Stanley

Ruben:
I say a metal-rich Diogenite.
An absolutely beautiful piece.
Greg S.


 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:02:55 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Where are the thin section experts?

 Hi all,

 The disclaimer: My main purpose for posting this is because I know
 very little about achondrite meteorites. This is because (as a general
 rule) I only collect what I find, and though I've found lots of
 meteorites this is my first achondrite find.

 As most already know this find is currently being classified by
 Laurence Garvie at ASU. However, while we wait for the official
 classification I thought it would be fun and enlightening to show the
 section and see if the guesses change from before. It would be great
 to hear from some of the great minds on this forum - Ted Bunch, the
 Hupe's, etc.. - but any ones guess is welcome and interesting to me.

 According to the (4) meteoriticists that have seen the thin section -
 it is NOT a pallasite or chondrite. However, no one can definitively
 ID this meteorite instead they gave a few guesses - primitive
 achondrite like.

 This thin section was pictured with a home made cross polarized light
 set-up I made. It’s not the best but I hope it's good enough to give
 an idea.

 Look here:
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/rubengarciasmeteorite.htm

 Meteorite picutres as found/cut and polished
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm

 --
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