Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:56:45 EDT, you wrote: > >Hello List, > >Noticed this on ebay. Does it look like NWA 869 to you guys? Perhaps it's >just that I've never seen this litho. >Comments appreciated. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110 >230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I donno, looks like something old and rotten to me. 5 or 10 cents a gram seems about the right price for it. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
5 to 10 cents a gram for NWA869? Maybe a couple of years ago, but not any more. I heard that there was virtually none to be bought at the Tucson show. Can attendees confirm this? Don --- Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:56:45 EDT, you wrote: > > > > >Hello List, > > > >Noticed this on ebay. Does it look like NWA 869 to > you guys? Perhaps it's > >just that I've never seen this litho. > >Comments appreciated. > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110 > >230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > I donno, looks like something old and rotten to me. > 5 or 10 cents a gram seems > about the right price for it. > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Don Rawlings Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:41:53 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >5 to 10 cents a gram for NWA869? Maybe a couple of >years ago, but not any more. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110230760513 No, I'm saying that piece on Ebay that claims to be a piece of NWA 869 looks from that photo to be something highly weathered and highly rotten-- the type of rotten junk sold (or attempted to be sold) in bulk lots at 5 or 10 cents a gram even now. I don't think that I'd pay a dollar for the slice. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
Yep -- Original message -- From: Don Rawlings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 5 to 10 cents a gram for NWA869? Maybe a couple of > years ago, but not any more. > > I heard that there was virtually none to be bought at > the Tucson show. Can attendees confirm this? > > Don > > --- Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:56:45 EDT, you wrote: > > > > > > > >Hello List, > > > > > >Noticed this on ebay. Does it look like NWA 869 to > > you guys? Perhaps it's > > >just that I've never seen this litho. > > >Comments appreciated. > > > > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110 > > > >230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > I donno, looks like something old and rotten to me. > > 5 or 10 cents a gram seems > > about the right price for it. > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > Don Rawlings > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
Hello Don, I did not see any at the Tucson Show but I do have a good supply of "Best Quality" individuals anywhere from 1 gram up to larger. Of course the smaller individuals are the most complete. I usually offer some on eBay in individual form or in 1-kilo lots. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: "Don Rawlings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] '869? 5 to 10 cents a gram for NWA869? Maybe a couple of years ago, but not any more. I heard that there was virtually none to be bought at the Tucson show. Can attendees confirm this? Don --- Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:56:45 EDT, you wrote: > >Hello List, > >Noticed this on ebay. Does it look like NWA 869 to you guys? Perhaps it's >just that I've never seen this litho. >Comments appreciated. > http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110 230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I donno, looks like something old and rotten to me. 5 or 10 cents a gram seems about the right price for it. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
IT"S been removed!! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] '869? Hello List, Noticed this on ebay. Does it look like NWA 869 to you guys? Perhaps it's just that I've never seen this litho. Comments appreciated. http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110 230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Thanks, Larry **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
Hi All, There was some 869 in big lots. Sahara Overland had a very nice looking 25Kg lot. Another tent seller at the Ramada Ltd was selling by the gram some stuff that really looked like 869, but was not identified as such. Pat Brown Scientific Lifestyle Meteorites --- Greg Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Don, > > I did not see any at the Tucson Show but I do have a > good supply of "Best > Quality" individuals anywhere from 1 gram up to > larger. Of course the > smaller individuals are the most complete. I usually > offer some on eBay in > individual form or in 1-kilo lots. > > Best regards, > Greg > > > Greg Hupe > The Hupe Collection > NaturesVault (eBay) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.LunarRock.com > IMCA 3163 > > Click here for my current eBay auctions: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Don Rawlings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:41 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] '869? > > > > >5 to 10 cents a gram for NWA869? Maybe a couple of > > years ago, but not any more. > > > > I heard that there was virtually none to be bought > at > > the Tucson show. Can attendees confirm this? > > > > Don > > > > --- Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:56:45 EDT, you wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >Hello List, > >> > > >> >Noticed this on ebay. Does it look like NWA 869 > to > >> you guys? Perhaps it's > >> >just that I've never seen this litho. > >> >Comments appreciated. > >> > > >> > >>http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110 > >> > >>230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >> > >> > >> I donno, looks like something old and rotten to > me. > >> 5 or 10 cents a gram seems > >> about the right price for it. > >> __ > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > > > > > Don Rawlings > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
Don, due to jewelry making, all 869 was bought up. I personally bought more than 500 kilograms of it, all of which was turned into spheres, beads, and pendants. The price is now much higher than that, at 5 to 10 cents a gram, I am a buyer right now, let me tell you! Michael Farmer --- Don Rawlings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 5 to 10 cents a gram for NWA869? Maybe a couple of > years ago, but not any more. > > I heard that there was virtually none to be bought > at > the Tucson show. Can attendees confirm this? > > Don > > --- Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:56:45 EDT, you wrote: > > > > > > > >Hello List, > > > > > >Noticed this on ebay. Does it look like NWA 869 > to > > you guys? Perhaps it's > > >just that I've never seen this litho. > > >Comments appreciated. > > > > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110 > > > >230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > I donno, looks like something old and rotten to > me. > > 5 or 10 cents a gram seems > > about the right price for it. > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > Don Rawlings > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
Hi, all, It wasn't removed, it was won. http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem It is an IMCA member that sold it - shouldn't that give him some credibility? I'm sure correspondence with him directly would have given you some assurance before starting this dubious thread. Actually, I've bought from that seller before without a problem. Cheers, Pete > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:42:45 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] '869? > > IT"S been removed!! > Jerry Flaherty > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:56 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] '869? > > >> >> Hello List, >> >> Noticed this on ebay. Does it look like NWA 869 to you guys? Perhaps it's >> just that I've never seen this litho. >> Comments appreciated. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110 >> 230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> >> Thanks, >> Larry >> >> >> >> >> **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & >> Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Spread the Love by installing 30 free Messenger Emoticons. Get them now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
Hi Starting price was $0.99. I've seen a lot worse from reputable dealers. Some has sold pure crap on Ebay. That is just for squeezing a few bucks out of something that ought to be in the waste bin. Sad, but money talks. Lasse Darren Garrison skrev: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:41:53 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: 5 to 10 cents a gram for NWA869? Maybe a couple of years ago, but not any more. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110230760513 No, I'm saying that piece on Ebay that claims to be a piece of NWA 869 looks from that photo to be something highly weathered and highly rotten-- the type of rotten junk sold (or attempted to be sold) in bulk lots at 5 or 10 cents a gram even now. I don't think that I'd pay a dollar for the slice. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
I have lots and seen lots more of NWA869. Probably cut at least 20 samples from different sources. That slice sure does not look like NWA869. Way too weathered (brown) looking. More like SAU001 but does not have the chondrule definition of SAU001??? tett Owen Sound, Ontario - Original Message - From: "Pete Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] '869? Hi, all, It wasn't removed, it was won. http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem It is an IMCA member that sold it - shouldn't that give him some credibility? I'm sure correspondence with him directly would have given you some assurance before starting this dubious thread. Actually, I've bought from that seller before without a problem. Cheers, Pete Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:42:45 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] '869? IT"S been removed!! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] '869? Hello List, Noticed this on ebay. Does it look like NWA 869 to you guys? Perhaps it's just that I've never seen this litho. Comments appreciated. http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110 230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Thanks, Larry **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Spread the Love by installing 30 free Messenger Emoticons. Get them now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
Hi I just want to clearify my last message in case someone misunderstood my meaning. I've bought several items from this dealer and have no complaint what so ever. On the contrary, I've got great items at good price and it was a pleasure. Even if someone dislikes this slice and think it's not worth a penny, the starting price WAS LOW, $0.99, and if some bidder want to pay $15, $50 or a $100 for that, it's nothing to blame the seller. He started low. There are sellers that sells pure crap for five or 10 times that much at Buy it Now. Hope that clears it... :) Lasse Lasse Lindh skrev: Hi Starting price was $0.99. I've seen a lot worse from reputable dealers. Some has sold pure crap on Ebay. That is just for squeezing a few bucks out of something that ought to be in the waste bin. Sad, but money talks. Lasse Darren Garrison skrev: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:41:53 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: 5 to 10 cents a gram for NWA869? Maybe a couple of years ago, but not any more. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110230760513 No, I'm saying that piece on Ebay that claims to be a piece of NWA 869 looks from that photo to be something highly weathered and highly rotten-- the type of rotten junk sold (or attempted to be sold) in bulk lots at 5 or 10 cents a gram even now. I don't think that I'd pay a dollar for the slice. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
Hi Lasse, these ebay-discussions are recurrent and I guess, one can break them down to the consensus, that on ebay there are good purchases to be found, but that ebay isn't directly always the best place to buy meteorites. Cause if you take all offers together, then - pity enough for the serious sellers - ebay turns out to be that marketplace for meteorites with the by far lowest standards of ethics. That kinds of discussions are ending always like the amen in the church with the maxim: Know your dealers (and if possible: your meteorites). You have to see, that on ebay is working the whole spectrum offerers; >From the extremely scrupulous professional dealer or experienced veteran collector, down to those, who haven't any clues about meteorites or understand ebay as an anonymous flea-market, where they can "leave no stone unturned" by disthonest means to squeeze out the last penny of material of doubtful quality, because they won't be called to account for. Note furthermore that the so called "meteorite market" developed from a pure collectors' scene and still today it is borne mainly by collectors, especially on ebay, and even most of the reputable dealers, who you know, aren't making their days in selling meteorites, but are dealing meteorites because of their feeble for such matter or as side occupation among others. There of course it is natural, that also not yet so advanced collectors offer here and there their specimens, who naturally are making mistakes. In general it is a welcome fact, at least I think so, that meteorites and their trade are driven mainly by collectors and enthusiasts. Well in this case maybe the seller mixed some specimens or he bought a lot of NWA 869, where also some other old meteorites creeped in, which he wasn't able to distinguish from true 869ers. If you look into his other auctions, you'll find, that he must be quite new to meteoritics as you easily can notice from his sometimes inadequate attributes he uses in his descriptions and sometimes he's telling absolute rubbish. E.g. that Sikhote: Item number: 120231123026 http://cgi.ebay.com/Sikhote-Alin-meteorite-27-1-grams-Nice-specimen-NR_W0QQi temZ120231123026QQihZ002QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Well, don't let me keep you with that beauty vs. the beholder's eyes-thing, the incorrectness here is, that it has absolutely no flow lines, as he states. Problem I see, is, that he has an IMCA-label. I think it should be the job of the two warrantors, who recommended him to be a member, to point out that mistake to him, to tutor him to do his homework and to coach him a little bit. Anyway, I could bet, that it won't take more than 10 days, until we'll have the next ebay-discussion on the list. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Lasse Lindh Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. März 2008 11:51 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] '869? Hi I just want to clearify my last message in case someone misunderstood my meaning. I've bought several items from this dealer and have no complaint what so ever. On the contrary, I've got great items at good price and it was a pleasure. Even if someone dislikes this slice and think it's not worth a penny, the starting price WAS LOW, $0.99, and if some bidder want to pay $15, $50 or a $100 for that, it's nothing to blame the seller. He started low. There are sellers that sells pure crap for five or 10 times that much at Buy it Now. Hope that clears it... :) Lasse __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
Hi Martin Thanks Martin for the info. Your a great source of knowledge as always and not afraid to give me a lesson... ;o) I do appreciate it. I have seen some questionable info and I agree that it is unfortunate. Regards Lasse Martin Altmann wrote: Hi Lasse, these ebay-discussions are recurrent and I guess, one can break them down to the consensus, that on ebay there are good purchases to be found, but that ebay isn't directly always the best place to buy meteorites. Cause if you take all offers together, then - pity enough for the serious sellers - ebay turns out to be that marketplace for meteorites with the by far lowest standards of ethics. That kinds of discussions are ending always like the amen in the church with the maxim: Know your dealers (and if possible: your meteorites). You have to see, that on ebay is working the whole spectrum offerers; >From the extremely scrupulous professional dealer or experienced veteran collector, down to those, who haven't any clues about meteorites or understand ebay as an anonymous flea-market, where they can "leave no stone unturned" by disthonest means to squeeze out the last penny of material of doubtful quality, because they won't be called to account for. Note furthermore that the so called "meteorite market" developed from a pure collectors' scene and still today it is borne mainly by collectors, especially on ebay, and even most of the reputable dealers, who you know, aren't making their days in selling meteorites, but are dealing meteorites because of their feeble for such matter or as side occupation among others. There of course it is natural, that also not yet so advanced collectors offer here and there their specimens, who naturally are making mistakes. In general it is a welcome fact, at least I think so, that meteorites and their trade are driven mainly by collectors and enthusiasts. Well in this case maybe the seller mixed some specimens or he bought a lot of NWA 869, where also some other old meteorites creeped in, which he wasn't able to distinguish from true 869ers. If you look into his other auctions, you'll find, that he must be quite new to meteoritics as you easily can notice from his sometimes inadequate attributes he uses in his descriptions and sometimes he's telling absolute rubbish. E.g. that Sikhote: Item number: 120231123026 http://cgi.ebay.com/Sikhote-Alin-meteorite-27-1-grams-Nice-specimen-NR_W0QQi temZ120231123026QQihZ002QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Well, don't let me keep you with that beauty vs. the beholder's eyes-thing, the incorrectness here is, that it has absolutely no flow lines, as he states. Problem I see, is, that he has an IMCA-label. I think it should be the job of the two warrantors, who recommended him to be a member, to point out that mistake to him, to tutor him to do his homework and to coach him a little bit. Anyway, I could bet, that it won't take more than 10 days, until we'll have the next ebay-discussion on the list. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Lasse Lindh Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. März 2008 11:51 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] '869? Hi I just want to clearify my last message in case someone misunderstood my meaning. I've bought several items from this dealer and have no complaint what so ever. On the contrary, I've got great items at good price and it was a pleasure. Even if someone dislikes this slice and think it's not worth a penny, the starting price WAS LOW, $0.99, and if some bidder want to pay $15, $50 or a $100 for that, it's nothing to blame the seller. He started low. There are sellers that sells pure crap for five or 10 times that much at Buy it Now. Hope that clears it... :) Lasse __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list