Re: IPSEC tunnels failing intermittently
Has anyone filed a bug report or should I send this to bugs@? Regards, Jakob Alvermark On 6 maj 2011, at 11:33, Jakob Alvermark wrote: A little more info: I have now ENCDEBUG enabled on both ends in the lab. When one tunnel fails I get the same error on both machines: May 4 12:27:55 test1 /bsd: esp_input_cb(): authentication failed for packet in SA xxx.xxx.xxx.97/84be7b20 May 4 12:27:18 test2 /bsd: esp_input_cb(): authentication failed for packet in SA xxx.xxx.xxx.99/da1d3abb ipsecctl -v -sa give no hints, everything looks normal: esp tunnel from xxx.xxx.xxx.99 to xxx.xxx.xxx.97 spi 0x84be7b20 auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes sa: spi 0x84be7b20 auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes state mature replay 16 flags 4 lifetime_cur: alloc 0 bytes 7968 add 1304504831 first 1304504875 lifetime_hard: alloc 0 bytes 0 add 1200 first 0 lifetime_soft: alloc 0 bytes 0 add 1080 first 0 address_src: xxx.xxx.xxx.99 address_dst: xxx.xxx.xxx.97 identity_src: type prefix id 0: xxx.xxx.xxx.99/32 identity_dst: type prefix id 0: xxx.xxx.xxx.97/32 src_mask: 255.255.255.0 dst_mask: 255.255.255.0 protocol: proto 0 flags 0 flow_type: type use direction in src_flow: 192.168.31.0 dst_flow: 192.168.1.0 remote_auth: type rsa esp tunnel from xxx.xxx.xxx.97 to xxx.xxx.xxx.99 spi 0xda1d3abb auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes sa: spi 0xda1d3abb auth hmac-sha2-256 enc aes state mature replay 16 flags 4 lifetime_cur: alloc 0 bytes 48864 add 1304504837 first 1304504838 lifetime_hard: alloc 0 bytes 0 add 1200 first 0 lifetime_soft: alloc 0 bytes 0 add 1080 first 0 address_src: xxx.xxx.xxx.97 address_dst: xxx.xxx.xxx.99 identity_src: type prefix id 0: xxx.xxx.xxx.97/32 identity_dst: type prefix id 0: xxx.xxx.xxx.99/32 src_mask: 255.255.255.0 dst_mask: 255.255.255.0 protocol: proto 0 flags 0 flow_type: type use direction in src_flow: 192.168.1.0 dst_flow: 192.168.31.0 remote_auth: type rsa On 2 maj 2011, at 21:59, MG wrote: On 5/2/2011 12:13 PM, Vijay Sankar wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: On 05/02/11 18:08, Robert wrote: Hi, Same here, but between 2 hosts in the same subnet (very basic network setup). I was also waiting for 4.9 (and time to investigate...) We see same behaviour on 4.9 so upgrading will not help. On Mon, 2 May 2011 13:30:34 + (UTC) Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: I see something similar which I've been trying to track down but not really succeeding. The thing we have in common is multiple subnets, I wonder if this is a factor... (and this setup has always been post-4.4 On 2011-05-02, Jakob Alvermark jakob.alverm...@bsdlabs.com wrote: Hi, I am getting some strange problems with IPSEC tunnels. There are 5 sites connected using IPSEC tunnels, which used to work perfectly, but since upgrading to 4.8 (from 4.4), tunnels started failing, seemly at random intervals. To investigate I set up two machines in the lab and they exhibit the same behavior: After a seemingly random amount of time, when there is a renegotiation of an SA due to its lifetime expired, traffic will stop flowing (I have a ping running). 'ipsecctl -sa' and 'netstat -rn' shows everything as normal. When that SA lifetime expires and a new SA is negotiated it comes back again. I recompiled the kernel with 'option ENCDEBUG' and set net.inet.ip.encdebug=1 and when it fails I get 'esp_input_cb(): authentication failed for packet in SA xxx.xxx.xxx.97/6e68c6ae' The machines are installed with stock OpenBSD 4.8, nothing special about the configuration. ipsec.conf is very simple, just one line: ike esp from {192.168.1.9/24 172.16.1.0/24} to {192.168.31.0/24 192.168.32.254} local xxx.xxx.xxx.97 peer xxx.xxx.xxx.99 Public keys copied across, isakmpd started with flags -K -v Does anyone have any ideas about this? Thank you Jakob Alvermark jakob.alverm...@bsdlabs.com BSDLabs AB Solna, Sweden 556759-7652 FWIW, I have the following number of flows and tunnels using OpenBSD 4.8 at the moment. I have not seen any problems when both peers are OpenBSD servers. Mon May 02 11:57:12 CPU@36.0C # ipsecctl -sa | grep -c flow 160 Mon May 02 11:57:21 CPU@36.0C # ipsecctl -sa | grep -c tunnel 254 Approximately two months ago I had a similar situation to what you described and sort of narrowed it down to the following: The peer site had Cisco ASA VPN concentrator and they had different subnets with 172.16.0.0/24, 172.16.1.0/24, and so on to different customer networks. At our end with OpenBSD, we had a subnet of 172.16.0.0/21 for our internal network. Because the Cisco end could not change their subnet mask, we changed the subnet mask on the OpenBSD box to 172.16.1.0/24 and allowed access only to a few hosts with the address
Re: [Bulk] html5 video and browsers
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 15:06:14 +0200, LEVAI Daniel wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:33:44 +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 12:04:50 +0200 LEVAI Daniel wrote: Hi! I'm trying out youtube with html5 videos, and I have few question to the fellow video watchers. In mozilla-firefox I can't even enable html5 in youtube :/ If it's mozilla-firefox 3.6 then you can play html5 video but only in ogg format. Youtube is using webM now which was introduced in firefox 4. I'm using 4.0rc2 from packages. But I see now that in the tree, there is a newer version. I'll wait for a package update. So it seems I got stuck with an rc package version from when it was still in the testing phase. For some reason I couldn't update it (mozilla-firefox-4.0rc2 vs. mozilla-firefox-4.0.1p2), so I had to pkg_delete it, and then pkg_add the new one. Indeed it is working alright, but the fullscreen mode is worse than with xxxterm in my case. Daniel -- LIVAI Daniel PGP key ID = 0x83B63A8F Key fingerprint = DBEC C66B A47A DFA2 792D 650C C69B BE4C 83B6 3A8F
Re: DHCP client question. bug ?
Op 10-5-2011 16:00, Per-Olov Sjvholm schreef: Hi misc I think there maybe is a bug in the dhcp client. I am not sure but will ask the list... I have have had the following: em0: lan static IP em1: internet interface with static IP a default route to the isp is in mygate I had to add a dhcp interface to this This means I added dhcp to the hostname.bge0 interface When I got the IP from the dhcp config on the bge0 interface it destroyed the mygate and resolv.conf files and the default gateway was now going over to the bge0 instead (expected though)... I then changed the dhclient.conf to just contain the bge0 interface and the row: request subnet-mask; This looks good as I want ONLY the IP and MASK from the DHCP-server and not the gw and dns servers. However with this config the default gateway is removed but not replaced with the gateway from the dhcp. Question: Why is the default gateway destroyed by the dhcp config? This system uses OpenBSD 4.6 stable Tnx in advance /Per-Olov If I understand well then the 'request' statement makes sure you want to know the parameters attached. The dhcp server can (and will in your case) provide other information which is accepted by dhclient. If you specifically do _not_ want parameters to be set use the 'supersede' command. That way you will exclude those parameters from being set. eg I use request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, routers, domain-name,domain-name-servers, host-name; supersede domain-name bla.local domain.local; prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; The use of the prepend command is shown here as well, I am sure you can figure out why it is there. ;) BTW your version of OpenBSD is outdated and unsupported. HTH, erik
Re: problem with download limit
* Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY open...@e-solutions.re [2011-05-10 20:54]: When PF is enabled on the box, there's no queuing limit. And disable PF, don't solve the problem. Really, i don't understand why i download the file at 32Ko/s instead of ~80Ko/s At work, connection used is SDSL 1M (128 Ko/s = upload and download); We have 5 Public Ip Adress; ORANGE is the ISP. At Home, my connection is ADSL 8M (upload is 800K). well, the limiting factor these days and especially when DSL (consumer DSL even more so) is involved is latency, not the claimed bandwidth. read up on bandwidth-delay-product. On Tue, 10 May 2011 13:11:14 +, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Not sure, there's certainly not enough info here. PF won't cause that unless you have some queuing limit. Maybe you have an autonegotiation conflict. You could try setting all devices to 100baseTX full-duplex. that is extremely bad advice. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting
Re: problem with download limit (resolved)
bad advice. zero effect by definition. * Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY open...@e-solutions.re [2011-05-11 07:47]: I try this on our firewall (OpenBSD 4.8 -stable) sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65535 the default value was : 16384 Thank's to Daniel Melameth Cheers, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY www.mouedine.net On Tue, 10 May 2011 15:59:09 -0600, Daniel Melameth dan...@melameth.com wrote: Try sysctl net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65535. This is resolved in 4.9. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting
Re: problem with download limit (resolved)
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:27:59AM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: bad advice. zero effect by definition. maybe the test is flawed by donwloading on the firewall itself? * Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY open...@e-solutions.re [2011-05-11 07:47]: I try this on our firewall (OpenBSD 4.8 -stable) sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65535 the default value was : 16384 Thank's to Daniel Melameth Cheers, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY www.mouedine.net On Tue, 10 May 2011 15:59:09 -0600, Daniel Melameth dan...@melameth.com wrote: Try sysctl net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65535. This is resolved in 4.9. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting
Re: problem with download limit (resolved)
On Wed, 11 May 2011 10:27:59 +0200 Henning Brauer wrote: bad advice. zero effect by definition. Yeah but some ciscos etc. don't follow the definition and a device could have been set manually.
Re: problem with download limit (resolved)
But it works now. Just in modifying recvspace value for a higher... If you have other idea ... I have test it on the firewall and also on an OpenBSD standalone machine (directly with a public ip address). At work : ISP is Orange with a SDSL connection (1M upload=download) My home : ISP is SFR with an ADSL connection (8M for download, 800K for upload) the file is : http://marauders.dyndns.org/~wesley/file.ex (for testing) Cheers, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY. On Wed, 11 May 2011 10:27:59 +0200, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: bad advice. zero effect by definition. * Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY open...@e-solutions.re [2011-05-11 07:47]: I try this on our firewall (OpenBSD 4.8 -stable) sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65535 the default value was : 16384 Thank's to Daniel Melameth Cheers, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY www.mouedine.net On Tue, 10 May 2011 15:59:09 -0600, Daniel Melameth dan...@melameth.com wrote: Try sysctl net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65535. This is resolved in 4.9.
Re: problem with download limit (resolved)
* Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY open...@e-solutions.re [2011-05-11 12:25]: But it works now. Just in modifying recvspace value for a higher... yeah right, changing the size of a socket buffer will help a lot for a forwarded connection where no sockets are involved -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting
Re: problem with download limit (resolved)
On Wed, 11 May 2011 12:51:38 +0200 Henning Brauer wrote: yeah right, changing the size of a socket buffer will help a lot for a forwarded connection where no sockets are involved Now, remove the laptop, take a pc, install OpenBSD 4.8, configure the network card with a public ip address I guess there was only one box involved.
Re: problem with download limit (resolved)
Tried with OpenBSD 4.9 works (RELEASE) Tried with OpenBSD 4.8 doesn't work (Fresh install) Tried with OpenBSD 4.8 on 2 machines * with net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65535 works Thank you a lot for your replies ! Cheers, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY
4.9 firewalls
anyone replaced firewalls with 4.9 boxes yet? noticed a difference?
Re: 4.9 firewalls
On 5/11/11 9:14 AM, David Gwynne wrote: anyone replaced firewalls with 4.9 boxes yet? noticed a difference? A drop in replacement for me - works great!
Re: cmpci(4) and S/PDIF?
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 05:35:07PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Has anybody had success using the S/PDIF output of a cmpci(4) sound card? -- Christian naddy Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de yes! my soundcard just arrived, which i bought for SPDIF playback with the C-Media chipset. sofar it works like a charm. here's how i got it working: aucat -r 44100 -b 8192 -l mixerctl -t playback.mode # this puts it in SPDIF playback mode dmesg specs: cmpci0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 C-Media Electronics CMI8738/C3DX Audio rev 0x10: apic 2 int 20 model: Sweex SC015, 7.1 PCI Sound Card (http://www.sweex.com/SC015)
altq cripples other connections as well
I had set up ALTQ on a 4.9 firewall box as a box in our network needed its sending throttled, but I noticed that while the firewall was throttling this machine in question, ALL connections going through the machine were adversely affected and slow. Interactive SSH sessions had sometimes 1-2 seconds up to 10 seconds before keystrokes showed up. Once the machine had stopped sending all its traffic, things were fine again. I am not sure if the hotplug ppb and em(4) / bge(4) issue of shared interrupts could be applied here or not. The box happily forwards traffic without lag if I turn ALTQ off on it. However, this is not an option as we cannot go past 100 megabits on our connection. I also noticed I had to jack qlimit up to 8000 to stop getting lots of packets being dropped. Machine is a Dell PowerEdge R210. It's running amd64. I tried i386 on it and it was unstable, so switched it to amd64. Yes, it has ipmi enabled, but ipmi does not appear to cause any issues. It's only when ALTQ is enabled. Any ideas? Would this stuff be fixed in -current? I'd try -current on it, but need to convince management. Thanks, Tom The altq line in /etc/pf.conf: altq on em0 priq bandwidth 95Mb qlimit 8000 queue { bulk, std, mail, ssh, web, vpn, dns, ack } dmesg: OpenBSD 4.9 (GENERIC.MP) #794: Wed Mar 2 07:19:02 MST 2011 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.21 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM real mem = 1071947776 (1022MB) avail mem = 1044254720 (995MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/24/07, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfadd0, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0x3ff9c000 (46 entries) bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version 1.0.0 date 10/24/2007 bios0: Dell Inc. PowerEdge R200 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC SPCR HPET MCFG WD__ SLIC ERST HEST BERT EINJ SSDT SSDT SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S5) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.21 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-255 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (PEX1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (SBE0) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (SBE4) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (SBE5) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 5 (COMP) acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x9000 0xec000/0x4000! ipmi0 at mainbus0: version 1.5 interface KCS iobase 0xca8/8 spacing 4 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2201 MHz: speeds: 2200, 2000, 1800, 1600, 1400, 1200 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 3200/3210 Host rev 0x01 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 3200/3210 PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int 16 (irq 15) pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 (irq 15) pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 em0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB) rev 0x06: apic 2 int 16 (irq 15), address 00:15:17:6c:c7:a2 em1 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB) rev 0x06: apic 2 int 17 (irq 14), address 00:15:17:6c:c7:a3 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x02 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 bge0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5721 rev 0x21, BCM5750 C1 (0x4201): apic 2 int 16 (irq 15), address 00:19:b9:fa:59:20 brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5750 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0 ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x02 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 bge1 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5721 rev 0x21, BCM5750 C1 (0x4201): apic 2 int 17 (irq 14), address 00:19:b9:fa:59:21 brgphy1 at bge1 phy 1: BCM5750 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 21 (irq 11) uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 20 (irq 10) uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 21 (irq 11) ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 21 (irq 11) usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb4 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0x92 pci5 at ppb4 bus 5 vga1 at pci5 dev 5 function 0 ATI ES1000 rev 0x02 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 19 (irq
Re: 4.9 firewalls
On 11/05/11 16:14, David Gwynne wrote: anyone replaced firewalls with 4.9 boxes yet? noticed a difference? Yes, works better :) Giannis [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: HP DL320 G6 shared network adapter not working
On 2011-05-10, Peter van Oord van der Vlies peter.vanoordvandervl...@itisit.nl wrote: I am installing several HP DL320G6 servers and see there are some problems with the Network Adapter that is shared with ILO2 . When openbsd boots the ILO adapter becomes unavailable and within openbsd the interface bge0 is not usable. It's connected at 10BaseT but in real it's connected at 1000baseT . OpenBSD does not support NICs shared between management card and OS, you will need to use a dedicated NIC. IIRC HP iLO usually lets you dedicate a NIC for this and hide it from the OS, otherwise you will probably need to install a nic supported by a different driver, and disable bge in kernel config. With Dells you need the expensive enterprise dracs to avoid sharing. Sharing NICs like this is a real security worry...
Re: 4.9 firewalls
On Wed, 11 May 2011 23:14:36 +1000, David Gwynne l...@animata.net wrote: anyone replaced firewalls with 4.9 boxes yet? noticed a difference? It has a new sticker on it :-)
Re: altq cripples other connections as well
On 2011-05-11, Tom Murphy open...@pertho.net wrote: I had set up ALTQ on a 4.9 firewall box as a box in our network needed its sending throttled, but I noticed that while the firewall was throttling this machine in question, ALL connections going through the machine were adversely affected and slow. Interactive SSH sessions had sometimes 1-2 seconds up to 10 seconds before keystrokes showed up. Once the machine had stopped sending all its traffic, things were fine again. Watch 'systat q' or 'pfctl -vvsq' and check that packets are being assigned to the expected queues..
Re: altq cripples other connections as well
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Tom Murphy open...@pertho.net wrote: I had set up ALTQ on a 4.9 firewall box as a box in our network needed its sending throttled, but I noticed that while the firewall was throttling this machine in question, ALL connections going through the machine were adversely affected and slow. Interactive SSH sessions had sometimes 1-2 seconds up to 10 seconds before keystrokes showed up. Once the machine had stopped sending all its traffic, things were fine again. I am not sure if the hotplug ppb and em(4) / bge(4) issue of shared interrupts could be applied here or not. The box happily forwards traffic without lag if I turn ALTQ off on it. However, this is not an option as we cannot go past 100 megabits on our connection. I also noticed I had to jack qlimit up to 8000 to stop getting lots of packets being dropped. Machine is a Dell PowerEdge R210. It's running amd64. I tried i386 on it and it was unstable, so switched it to amd64. Yes, it has ipmi enabled, but ipmi does not appear to cause any issues. It's only when ALTQ is enabled. Any ideas? Would this stuff be fixed in -current? I'd try -current on it, but need to convince management. Thanks, Tom The altq line in /etc/pf.conf: altq on em0 priq bandwidth 95Mb qlimit 8000 queue { bulk, std, mail, ssh, web, vpn, dns, ack } http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=129371647818083w=2 ?
Re: altq cripples other connections as well
Stuart Henderson wrote: Watch 'systat q' or 'pfctl -vvsq' and check that packets are being assigned to the expected queues.. I get this (sorry for the wonky formatting): QUEUE BW SCH PRIO PKTSBYTES DROP_P DROP_B QLEN BORROW SUSPEN P/S B/S bulk priq 1333079 1611153K 000 std priq2 29649766 27725M 30364 40897687 0 mail priq9 79223719 88413M 5363 7279626 0 ssh priq 10 1420163 103931K 000 web priq 12 2650944 3078267K 72956180 vpn priq 13 11907422 9255256K 000 dns priq 14 11147040 982677K 000 ack priq 15 48287941 2899340K 000 The offending machine that was sending out a ton of traffic had been relegated to the bulk queue that had the lowest priority. Despite that, ssh connections were stuttering, even though they had higher priority. Tom
Re: bsd.rd and (automated) upgrading
On Thu, 5 May 2011 21:23:40 + Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:15:33 +0200 Rogier Krieger wrote: Yes, see e.g. Yaifo. The link came by earlier this week on the list. http://sourceforge.net/projects/yaifo/files/yaifo/4.8/yaifo-4.8.tgz/download I noticed the Update to 4.9 added to CHANGES and downloaded yaifo from cvs. Built yaifo.fs but at the OpenBSD boot screen I get. booting hd0a:/bsd: 8439220 read text failed (0). will try /bsd Anyone had it working with 4.9? Linux is really pissing me off right now. I guess the defaults are different or something but I'm lost at the minute. I have a working yaifo.fs, except. If I use dd from the OpenBSD cd the yaifo bsd.rd loads. Do the same from a debian install cd the yaifo bsd.rd loads. Do it from an installed debian dd (coreutils) 8.5 and I get read text failed. Any ideas anyone of the differences in dd and if a flag or option may make OpenBSD boot?
Re: cmpci(4) and S/PDIF?
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 03:36:47PM +0200, David Steiner wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 05:35:07PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Has anybody had success using the S/PDIF output of a cmpci(4) sound card? -- Christian naddy Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de yes! my soundcard just arrived, which i bought for SPDIF playback with the C-Media chipset. sofar it works like a charm. here's how i got it working: aucat -r 44100 -b 8192 -l mixerctl -t playback.mode # this puts it in SPDIF playback mode dmesg specs: cmpci0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 C-Media Electronics CMI8738/C3DX Audio rev 0x10: apic 2 int 20 model: Sweex SC015, 7.1 PCI Sound Card (http://www.sweex.com/SC015) if you do aucat -i /dev/zero, does the server crash after a certain amount of time? -- Alexandre
I hate Spam
I'm new to this list and to OpenBSD, and currently signed up for misc, ports and www lists, and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists. I'm running my own sendmail server, spamd and spamassassin filtered by procmail, but to much junk passing because it's relayed through the list servers. This far I've collected the mail addresses by hand and pasted them in to my spamassassin local.cf Just wondering how other subscribers solving this mather ? Best regards Hasse Hansson Thorshammare.org
I hate Spam
I'm new to this list and to OpenBSD, and currently signed up for misc, ports and www lists, and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists. I'm running my own sendmail server, spamd and spamassassin filtered by procmail, but to much junk passing because it's relayed through the list servers. This far I've collected the mail addresses by hand and pasted them in to my spamassassin local.cf Just wondering how other subscribers solving this mather ? Best regards Hasse Hansson s...@horshammare.org
Re: I hate Spam
--- SpamTrap [Wed, May 11, 2011 at 04:51:19PM +0200]: --- I'm new to this list and to OpenBSD, and currently signed up for misc, ports and www lists, and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists. taken from: http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html The OpenBSD mailing lists use spamd(8) in greylisting mode as well as SpamAssassin to keep down the spam volume but things do sneak through--deal with it. In addition, the list server also has regex-based rules to reject based on some common spam and virus telltales. If you get spam through one of the OpenBSD mailing lists, you don't need to send a copy to the list owner--chances are he's already seen it. Also, please do not submit spam received through the mailing lists to spamcop as this will result in the list server being added to their RBL. Complaining about and commenting upon spam on the list proper is counter-productive as it generates more traffic than the spam itself.
Re: cmpci(4) and S/PDIF?
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 05:23:36PM +0200, Christian Weisgerber wrote: In article 20110511133647.ga3...@mango.fritz.box you write: Has anybody had success using the S/PDIF output of a cmpci(4) sound card? yes! my soundcard just arrived, which i bought for SPDIF playback with the C-Media chipset. sofar it works like a charm. here's how i got it working: mixerctl -t playback.mode # this puts it in SPDIF playback mode Can you send me the output of mixerctl -v please? -- Christian naddy Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de $ mixerctl -v inputs.dac=192,192 volume inputs.dac.mute=off [ off on ] inputs.fmsynth=192,192 volume inputs.fmsynth.mute=off [ off on ] inputs.cd=0,0 volume inputs.cd.mute=on [ off on ] inputs.line=0,0 volume inputs.line.mute=on [ off on ] inputs.aux=0,0 volume inputs.aux.mute=on [ off on ] inputs.mic=0 volume inputs.mic.mute=on [ off on ] inputs.mic.preamp=off [ off on ] inputs.spkr=128 volume record.source= { mic cd line aux wave fmsynth spdif } record.mic=0 volume playback.mode=spdif [ dac spdif ] spdif.input=spdin1 [ spdin1 spdin2 spdout ] spdif.input.phase=positive [ positive negative ] spdif.output=playback [ playback spdin ] spdif.output.playback=wave [ wave legacy ] spdif.output.voltage=5V [ 5V 0.5V ] spdif.monitor=spdout [ off spdin spdout ] outputs.master=128,128 volume outputs.rear=off [ off on ] outputs.rear.individual=off [ off on ] outputs.rear.reverse=off [ off on ] outputs.surround=off [ off on ]
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Re: I hate Spam
OpenBSD MailingList wrote: and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists. I only receive a couple a day - no problem at all. Just wondering how other subscribers solving this mather ? I use the messages that pass through for training bogofilter :) Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen
Re: I hate Spam
I second that! Some must live the perfect life if a couple of spam messages is considered as a problem. I often use a key on my keyboard named Delete, takes no time at all and I can sleep well at night. // rancor 2011/5/11 Mikkel C. Simonsen m...@post5.tele.dk OpenBSD MailingList wrote: and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists. I only receive a couple a day - no problem at all. Just wondering how other subscribers solving this mather ? I use the messages that pass through for training bogofilter :) Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen
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Sendmail listens on *:465 when it is not supposed to!
OS: OpenBSD 4.9 i386 My configuration file for sendmail: divert(0)dnl VERSIONID(`@(#)openbsd-localhost.mc $Revision: 1.4 $') OSTYPE(openbsd)dnl FEATURE(nouucp, `reject')dnl FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains')dnl FEATURE(`no_default_msa')dnl define(`SMART_HOST',`host.at.some.where')dnl MAILER(local)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, address=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet6, address=::1, Name=MTA6, M=O')dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, address=127.0.0.1, Port=587, Name=MSA, M=E')dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet6, address=::1, Port=587, Name=MSA6, M=O, M=E')dnl CLIENT_OPTIONS(`Family=inet6, Address=::')dnl CLIENT_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Address=0.0.0.0')dnl dnl dnl Some broken nameservers will return SERVFAIL (a temporary failure) dnl on T_ (IPv6) lookups. define(`confBIND_OPTS', `WorkAroundBroken')dnl $ netstat -na | grep LISTEN ... tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1.587 *.*LISTEN tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1.25 *.*LISTEN tcp 0 0 *.465 *.*LISTEN ... I can understand 127.0.0.1.587 and 127.0.0.1.25, but there did *.465 come from?! Also to make sure it is sendmail, fstat | grep 465 root sendmail98854* internet stream tcp 0xd8dd8cc0 *:465 I amd running sendmail with the -bd flag. Anyone kind enough to educate me? I thank you. Mike
Intel GM45 3d acceleration
Hello- I am thinking about buying a second (used) Thinkpad to run OpenBSD and was wondering whether 3d acceleration is working on the Intel GM45 (4500MHD) graphics chipsets like the ones found on the T400 laptops. 3d works fine in OpenBSD on my x61s which has the GM965 (X3100) chipset but I don't have access to a machine with the GM45 to test 4.9 or a snapshot. I've searched through the mailing list archives and ran several Google searches but did not come up with a definitive answer. It appears X11 itself works fine in 2d with the GM45 but I'm uncertain about 3d. If anyone could confirm yes or no I would appreciate it. Thank you in advance. -- Chess Griffin
Re: udl(4) support for StarTech CONV-USB2DVI
On Thu, 27 May 2010 11:14:19 -0700, Bryan Vyhmeister wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Owain Ainsworth zer...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:02:10AM -0400, Bryan Vyhmeister wrote: Using your patches as a starting point, I was able to get the device recognized as udl0 and attach to wsdisplay1. Does anyone have a working xorg.conf that uses wsudl as a second display? I have tried a bunch of different options but keep getting errors. I want to verify that this device can even work and then I'll submit the patches back to the list. Thank you. Try using just udl for X at first to make sure it is working. Then play with multi-head. That's a good idea but I couldn't get it to work either. Below are the xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log. I believe the problem is stated here: (EE) wsudl(0): We are not attached to the udl driver I'm just not sure how to go about fixing this. Has anyone found a solution for this? I've been trying to get a Lilliput UM-70 working, but so far I've had no success; it's detected and correctly identified by the kernel, but when trying to use it I get the same error messages as Bryan did a year ago, although I'm using OpenBSD 4.9. /Dave Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load dbe Load dri Load dri2 Load extmod Load glx EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol wsmouse Option Device /dev/wsmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Monitor Vendor ModelNameMonitor Model EndSection Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver wsudl EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection (--) checkDevMem: using aperture driver /dev/xf86 (--) Using wscons driver on /dev/ttyC4 in pcvt compatibility mode (version 3.32) X.Org X Server 1.6.5 Release Date: 2009-10-11 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: OpenBSD 4.7 i386 Current Operating System: OpenBSD myhostname 4.7 GENERIC.MP#0 i386 Build Date: 26 May 2010 10:02:59PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu May 27 13:58:25 2010 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) ServerLayout X.org Configured (**) |--Screen Screen0 (0) (**) | |--Monitor Monitor0 (**) | |--Device Card0 (**) |--Input Device Mouse0 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard0 (==) Not automatically adding devices (==) Not automatically enabling devices (**) FontPath set to: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ (**) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (II) Loader magic: 0x7ec0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 5.0 X.Org XInput driver : 4.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (II) Loader running on openbsd (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:27ae:17aa:3870 Intel 82945GME Video rev 3, Mem @ 0x9828/524288, 0x8000/268435456, 0x9830/262144, I/O @ 0x60c0/8 (--) PCI: (0:0:2:1) 8086:27a6:17aa:3870 Intel 82945GM Video rev 3, Mem @ 0x9820/524288 (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x -
Re: cmpci(4) and S/PDIF?
David Steiner davidsteiner2...@gmail.com wrote: yes! my soundcard just arrived, which i bought for SPDIF playback with the C-Media chipset. sofar it works like a charm. here's how i got it working: aucat -r 44100 -b 8192 -l mixerctl -t playback.mode # this puts it in SPDIF playback mode dmesg specs: cmpci0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 C-Media Electronics CMI8738/C3DX Audio rev 0x10: apic 2 int 20 model: Sweex SC015, 7.1 PCI Sound Card (http://www.sweex.com/SC015) Hmm. I have a similar card (it has only four analog jacks and an additional joystick port) with the very same chipset... cmpci0 at pci4 dev 6 function 0 C-Media Electronics CMI8738/C3DX Audio rev 0x10: apic 2 int 20 ... but I can't get it to output anything on the S/PDIF port. Mysterious. I'm beginning to wonder if the port on my card is simply shot. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de
Re: I hate Spam
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] Pe vegne af rancor Sendt: den 11 maj 2011 21:33 Til: OpenBSD MailingList; misc@openbsd.org Emne: Re: I hate Spam I second that! Some must live the perfect life if a couple of spam messages is considered as a problem. I often use a key on my keyboard named Delete, takes no time at all and I can sleep well at night. // rancor 2011/5/11 Mikkel C. Simonsen m...@post5.tele.dk OpenBSD MailingList wrote: and receive a lot of spam mail through the lists. I only receive a couple a day - no problem at all. Just wondering how other subscribers solving this mather ? I use the messages that pass through for training bogofilter :) Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen Thanks for the answers. Apparently I didn't make myself clear enough. I'm not complaining about a couple of spam-mails. I posted this message to try to learn something from more experienced users. Like tips tricks on the mentioned spamd and spamassassin, hell yeah, even sendmail. So tips like the above, are especially valuable. snip I often use a key on my keyboard named Delete, takes no time at all and I can sleep well at night. /snip All the best /Hasse
Re: HP DL320 G6 shared network adapter not working
You can normally get a dedicated iLO port for HP machines that lack them as an option, this is apparently 514206-B21 on your machine. There is perhaps a register to poke in bge that will make bge0 useable regardless of what the bios does as well. See if you can set it as a dedicated NIC via the bios, we don't do 'shared' management ports in OpenBSD. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 07:54:25AM +, Peter van Oord van der Vlies wrote: Hello misc, I am installing several HP DL320G6 servers and see there are some problems with the Network Adapter that is shared with ILO2 . When openbsd boots the ILO adapter becomes unavailable and within openbsd the interface bge0 is not usable. It's connected at 10BaseT but in real it's connected at 1000baseT . Ifconfig : bge0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 lladdr 1c:c1:de:f9:c6:50 priority: 0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT full-duplex) status: active See below dmesg output : OpenBSD 4.9 (GENERIC.MP) #794: Wed Mar 2 07:19:02 MST 2011 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5502 @ 1.87GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.87 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3 ,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,DCA,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT real mem = 3747340288 (3573MB) avail mem = 3675897856 (3505MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/31/99, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf, SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xdf7fe000 (134 entries) bios0: vendor HP version W07 date 01/29/2011 bios0: HP ProLiant DL320 G6 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SPCR MCFG HPET SPMI ERST APIC SRAT BERT HEST DMAR SSDT SSDT SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-63 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 16 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 20 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5502 @ 1.87GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.87 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3 ,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,DCA,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 0 pa 0xfec8, version 20, 24 pins acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 1 (IP2P) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 3 (NIB1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 4 (IPT5) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (PRB2) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 10 (PT07) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 7 (PT03) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 13 (PT01) acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C3, C1 acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C3, C1 acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 31 degC bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xb000 0xcb000/0x4000! 0xcf000/0x1a00 ipmi at mainbus0 not configured pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 5500 Host rev 0x13 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci1 at ppb0 bus 13 bnx0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5709 rev 0x20: apic 0 int 4 (irq 7) bnx1 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 Broadcom BCM5709 rev 0x20: apic 0 int 16 (irq 11) ppb1 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci2 at ppb1 bus 7 ppb2 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci3 at ppb2 bus 10 ciss0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Hewlett-Packard Smart Array rev 0x01: apic 0 int 6 (irq 7) ciss0: 1 LD, HW rev 2, FW 3.00/3.00, 64bit fifo rro scsibus0 at ciss0: 1 targets sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HP, LOGICAL VOLUME, 3.00 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: 286070MB, 512 bytes/sec, 585871964 sec total pchb1 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x343a rev 0x13 pchb2 at pci0 dev 13 function 1 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x343b rev 0x13 pchb3 at pci0 dev 13 function 2 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x343c rev 0x13 pchb4 at pci0 dev 13 function 3 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x343d rev 0x13 pchb5 at pci0 dev 13 function 4 Intel 5520/X58 QuickPath rev 0x13 pchb6 at pci0 dev 13 function 5 Intel 5520 QuickPath rev 0x13 pchb7 at pci0 dev 13 function 6 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x341a rev 0x13 pchb8 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x341c rev 0x13 pchb9 at pci0 dev 14 function 1 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x341d rev 0x13 pchb10 at pci0 dev 14 function 2 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x341e rev 0x13 pchb11 at pci0 dev 14 function 3 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x341f rev 0x13 pchb12 at pci0 dev 14 function 4 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x3439 rev 0x13 Intel X58 Misc rev 0x13 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 not configured Intel X58 GPIO rev 0x13 at pci0 dev 20 function 1 not configured Intel X58 RAS rev 0x13 at pci0 dev 20 function 2 not configured
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