Re: About wine ?

2012-06-11 Thread Andres Perera
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Peter Laufenberg 
wrote:
>>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Peter Laufenberg 
wrote:
>>> Qemu seems like a good project given the flack it gets on wikipedia (very
Cartesian, I know), how well can it run on OpenBSD? what's holding it back?
which kernel improvements/patches will help? if all VM is counter-security,
why? Where do we come from and is there life after death? I demand to know.
>>
>>Qemu is fine on OpenBSD, but slow, because for some time already it's
>>without KVM in OpenBSD. Probably one of the reasons for www.bitrig.org
>
> I see. Lofty goals with a questionable fork rationale. Maybe removing doc
references to floppies and tapes would improve the "modernity" perception.

they also removed code

makefiles really arent set up for mass edits. it's hard to do static checks

>
> >From Jiri:
>>Why don't you first search archives?
>
> - digressions into exotic sports cars?
> - marketing plugs?
> - out of date?
>
> -- p



Re: About wine ?

2012-06-11 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Peter Laufenberg  
>wrote:
>> Qemu seems like a good project given the flack it gets on wikipedia (very 
>> Cartesian, I know), how well can it run on OpenBSD? what's holding it back? 
>> which kernel improvements/patches will help? if all VM is counter-security, 
>> why? Where do we come from and is there life after death? I demand to know.
>
>Qemu is fine on OpenBSD, but slow, because for some time already it's
>without KVM in OpenBSD. Probably one of the reasons for www.bitrig.org

I see. Lofty goals with a questionable fork rationale. Maybe removing doc 
references to floppies and tapes would improve the "modernity" perception.

>From Jiri:
>Why don't you first search archives?

- digressions into exotic sports cars?
- marketing plugs?
- out of date?

-- p



Re: About wine ?

2012-06-11 Thread Jiri B
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 03:49:21PM +0200, Peter Laufenberg wrote:
> I personally don't care for WINE but would really like to know more more 
> about virtualization options on OpenBSD hosts; VirtualBox is the only reason 
> I need to keep some Debian hosts around (that and my secret crush on Larry 
> Ellison).
> 
> F.ex. compat_linux is x86-only and it's not clear how it plays with chroot, 
> which I know is imperfect, but saying "it can run Linux Skype!" without some 
> sandboxing doesn't seem too safe.
> 
> Qemu seems like a good project given the flack it gets on wikipedia (very 
> Cartesian, I know), how well can it run on OpenBSD? what's holding it back? 
> which kernel improvements/patches will help? if all VM is counter-security, 
> why? Where do we come from and is there life after death? I demand to know.

Why don't you first search archives?

jirib



Re: About wine ?

2012-06-11 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:35:50AM +0800, z_axis wrote:
>> I know wine port has been stopped.  I wonder whether or not it is
>> applicable to port wine to OpenBSD ?
>> Wine works great on FreeBSD, why cannot it run on OpenBSD ?
>
>Somebody has to resolve the issues in the code :)
>
>Take it from ports in Attic, IIRC. If you need Windoze, install
>an ESXi box and voila.

I personally don't care for WINE but would really like to know more more about 
virtualization options on OpenBSD hosts; VirtualBox is the only reason I need 
to keep some Debian hosts around (that and my secret crush on Larry Ellison).

F.ex. compat_linux is x86-only and it's not clear how it plays with chroot, 
which I know is imperfect, but saying "it can run Linux Skype!" without some 
sandboxing doesn't seem too safe.

Qemu seems like a good project given the flack it gets on wikipedia (very 
Cartesian, I know), how well can it run on OpenBSD? what's holding it back? 
which kernel improvements/patches will help? if all VM is counter-security, 
why? Where do we come from and is there life after death? I demand to know.

-- p



Re: About wine ?

2012-06-11 Thread Jiri B
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:35:50AM +0800, z_axis wrote:
> I know wine port has been stopped.  I wonder whether or not it is
> applicable to port wine to OpenBSD ?
> Wine works great on FreeBSD, why cannot it run on OpenBSD ?

Somebody has to resolve the issues in the code :)

Take it from ports in Attic, IIRC. If you need Windoze, install
an ESXi box and voila.

jirib



About wine ?

2012-06-10 Thread z_axis
I know wine port has been stopped.  I wonder whether or not it is  
applicable to port wine to OpenBSD ?

Wine works great on FreeBSD, why cannot it run on OpenBSD ?

Best Regards!