More OT - Re: Vote against software-patents

2005-10-20 Thread dereck
How about a two-track vote?  We should press hard to
prevent software patents AND the GPL.  The GPL is
pushing a lot of the rush to further patents, as more
of more GPL advocates openly copy software and then
place it into a licensing scheme that is even WORSE
than patents.  Patented software can always be
negotiated with $ and within the legal system.  GPL'd
software can't be.

We should be fighting both of these movements tooth
and nail.  We should insist on non-GPL licenses and
not use anything (ANYTHING!) licensed with it; and we
should boycott companies that work to patent software.


Dereck

--- Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse wrote:
> > You also received an e-mail from Norbert Bollow,
> right? :-)
> 
> Indeed I did. And I want everybody to get involved
> and to start
> thinking about it!
> 
> That's why I took the liberty of write a message
> about this
> seemingly off-topic subject.
> 
> 
> 
> # Han



Re: Vote against software-patents

2005-10-20 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:05:05 +0100
Jason McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:26:44PM +0159, Han Boetes wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > For everyone interested in the matter of software-patents. Here is
> > your chance to vote against them, yes, even if you are not from
> > Europe. And even if you don't live in Europe this is a very impor-
> > tant frontier, a good chance to stop them in their tracks and to
> > make sure software stay free and Open Source Software stays
> > possible.
> > 
> > Please read on over here:
> > 
> > http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/ev50/vote.html
> > 
> 
> jesus. no disrespect intended, but some of these choices were "made by a
> random generator". the award of best european of the year is probably going
> to go to 0xff.
I didn't follow the list provided since I can make up my own mind. But that
e- mail did guide me to the poll.

> 
> and since when has voting ever done us any good? i can't believe this is
> going to change anything.
No it's going to change anything, but still...
> 
> jmc
> 
Cheers,
Jasper


-- 
"Security is decided by quality" -- Theo de Raadt



Re: Vote against software-patents

2005-10-20 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:26:44PM +0159, Han Boetes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> For everyone interested in the matter of software-patents. Here is
> your chance to vote against them, yes, even if you are not from
> Europe. And even if you don't live in Europe this is a very impor-
> tant frontier, a good chance to stop them in their tracks and to
> make sure software stay free and Open Source Software stays
> possible.
> 
> Please read on over here:
> 
> http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/ev50/vote.html
> 

jesus. no disrespect intended, but some of these choices were "made by a
random generator". the award of best european of the year is probably going
to go to 0xff.

and since when has voting ever done us any good? i can't believe this is
going to change anything.

jmc



Re: Vote against software-patents

2005-10-20 Thread Han Boetes
Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse wrote:
> You also received an e-mail from Norbert Bollow, right? :-)

Indeed I did. And I want everybody to get involved and to start
thinking about it!

That's why I took the liberty of write a message about this
seemingly off-topic subject.



# Han



Re: Vote against software-patents

2005-10-20 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:26:44 +0159
Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> For everyone interested in the matter of software-patents. Here is
> your chance to vote against them, yes, even if you are not from
> Europe. And even if you don't live in Europe this is a very impor-
> tant frontier, a good chance to stop them in their tracks and to
> make sure software stay free and Open Source Software stays
> possible.
> 
> Please read on over here:
> 
> http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/ev50/vote.html
> 
> 
> 
> # Han
> 
You also received an e-mail from Norbert Bollow, right? :-)

Cheers,
Jasper


-- 
"Security is decided by quality" -- Theo de Raadt



Vote against software-patents

2005-10-20 Thread Han Boetes
Hi,

For everyone interested in the matter of software-patents. Here is
your chance to vote against them, yes, even if you are not from
Europe. And even if you don't live in Europe this is a very impor-
tant frontier, a good chance to stop them in their tracks and to
make sure software stay free and Open Source Software stays
possible.

Please read on over here:

http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/ev50/vote.html



# Han