[MMouse]: (no subject)

1999-08-28 Thread David Kinnecome

I was also at the Chicago show, and I have to say I was slightly
disappointed.  I found it was often really hard to hear the vocals, and
the overall sound quality was just okay.  Ii was my first time seeing
them, though, and I may have built up unreal expectations.



[MMouse]: Prufrock

1999-07-04 Thread David Kinnecome

and a bonus point for
anyone who can name the ts eliot poem -- mike
The T.S. Eliot poem is "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock"




[MMouse]: more on libertarians

1999-06-08 Thread David Kinnecome

First, I apologize for the uneducated comment and for personal attacks.
Now, to respond.  First, the primacy of the individual, carried to its
utmost conclusion, is Anarchy.  Libertarians carry it only so far as it
is beneficial; and I believe that they are more interested in
maintaining the status quo (at least as far as their positions in life
go) than in abstract notions of individual liberty.The governments
role is to provide protection (police force and Army) so that the
have-nots cannot, as an exercise of their "individual" free will, come
and take away the haves' stuff.  Already a convenient limitation on
total "liberty."  And there's more.  Most libertarians I have spoken
with ignore the benefits that they, as "individuals," receive from
living in a "society."  Government is integral in both ensuring, and
yes, limiting the benefits individuals receive from living in a
society.  Libertarians seem to want to retain the material wealth that
government enabled them to obtain, while eliminating any government
limits on there benefits.
As for your economic argument, it contains more propaganda than
fact, the perfect free market is a myth, and the history of
privatization belies your claims of invariable improvement (especially
for the poor).
As for your concluding arguments, I agree equality cannot be
achieved, but that does not mean it is not to be sought.  Your belief
that the poor have more rights is baseless, although I can see where you
might get that belief, what with the efforts of the GOP to make the
American public believe that it's true.  This country was founded on an
ideal of equality of opportunity, and until that exists, efforts aimed
at achieving equality are not violating the "rights" of those who are,
by benefit of inheritance, skin color, geographic location, or whatever
else, starting from a superior position.  Finally, I'm not a politician,
and I agree that politicians enjoy power and don't strive for equality,
but that answer failed to address my question.



[MMouse]: show me the perfect free market, and I'll show you a Bridge I'm selling in Brooklyn.

1999-06-06 Thread David Kinnecome

Sorry for sending this, but I felt the need to reply to the uneducated,
libertarian (the least-aptly named "political group" I've ever come
across) propaganda recently posted to the list.  Get rid of public
education?  What a moron.  I assume you were privately educated,
apparently with little success.  Remember not everyone's mommy and daddy
are rich, some people need public education.  I've drafted a slogan for
you, you can use it if you like:  "More inequality, more inequality."
Also, I often find these simple words of wisdom should be pondered and
absorbed by libertarians:  Money does not equal merit.  Also, I'm
curious, why aren't there any poor libertarians?  While framing a
response to this one, consider how much each response relies on
stereotypes.  Finally, have you ever tried a political view that wasn't
fed to you by a silver spoon from your parents?



[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n227

1999-01-02 Thread David Kinnecome

I'm not sure that "gay" is the proper adjective, but I guess my favorite depends on
the mood I'm in; most often "custom concern" or "trailer trash".

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