Re: Big pages and gzip

2000-08-15 Thread Doug MacEachern

On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Ken Williams wrote:

> Darn.  Or perhaps: cool.  Is it possible for me to usurp this module?
> The Apache::Gzip module I've been working on has the same goals and same
> purpose as the one in the eagle, but a bit of a different interface and
> a very different implementation inside.  It's reasonable that if the
> only thing changing is the interface (can I say that with a straight
> face?), the module could be kept the same.  Doug, what do you think?
> 
> I assume it would be a bad idea to have two modules, an Apache::GZip
> (from the book) and an Apache::Gzip (on CPAN).  Or might that be okay,
> if notes were added to the docs for each?

how about calling it Apache::GZipStream ?  you can borrow whatever you
like from the book example.




Re: Big pages and gzip

2000-06-10 Thread Ken Williams

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug MacEachern) wrote:
>On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Ken Williams wrote:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stas Bekman) wrote:
>> 
>> >On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Mark Hewis wrote:
>> >
>> >> it would seem to be quite straight forward to implement a handler
>> >> to gzip all output html files depending on the allowed mime-types
>> >> and/or user_agent. This would reduce many pages by up to a factor
>> >> of 10 in size. 
>> >> 
>> >> 1) Is anyone already doing?
>> >> 2) If not why not?
>> >> 3) what borwsers would accept html files in a gzipped format
>> >
>> >it's there for a long time:
>> >Apache::Gzip
>> >Apache::GzipChain
>> 
>> Actually, as far as I know there's no Apache::Gzip.
>
>close, there is an Apache::GZip in the eagle book and code available
>modperl.com

Darn.  Or perhaps: cool.  Is it possible for me to usurp this module?
The Apache::Gzip module I've been working on has the same goals and same
purpose as the one in the eagle, but a bit of a different interface and
a very different implementation inside.  It's reasonable that if the
only thing changing is the interface (can I say that with a straight
face?), the module could be kept the same.  Doug, what do you think?

I assume it would be a bad idea to have two modules, an Apache::GZip
(from the book) and an Apache::Gzip (on CPAN).  Or might that be okay,
if notes were added to the docs for each?

 -Ken





Re: Big pages and gzip

2000-06-09 Thread Doug MacEachern

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Ken Williams wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stas Bekman) wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Mark Hewis wrote:
> >
> >> it would seem to be quite straight forward to implement a handler to gzip
> >> all output html files depending on the allowed mime-types and/or user_agent.
> >> This would reduce many pages by up to a factor of 10 in size. 
> >> 
> >> 1) Is anyone already doing?
> >> 2) If not why not?
> >> 3) what borwsers would accept html files in a gzipped format
> >
> >it's there for a long time:
> >Apache::Gzip
> >Apache::GzipChain
> 
> Actually, as far as I know there's no Apache::Gzip.

close, there is an Apache::GZip in the eagle book and code available
modperl.com




Re: Big pages and gzip

2000-06-07 Thread Stas Bekman

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Ken Williams wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stas Bekman) wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Mark Hewis wrote:
> >
> >> it would seem to be quite straight forward to implement a handler to gzip
> >> all output html files depending on the allowed mime-types and/or user_agent.
> >> This would reduce many pages by up to a factor of 10 in size. 
> >> 
> >> 1) Is anyone already doing?
> >> 2) If not why not?
> >> 3) what borwsers would accept html files in a gzipped format
> >
> >it's there for a long time:
> >Apache::Gzip
> >Apache::GzipChain
> 
> Actually, as far as I know there's no Apache::Gzip.  But that's a lie
> too - I've been harboring a new Apache::Gzip that seems to work, and
> plays well with Apache::Filter too.  As if you couldn't guess that based
> on my other modules. =)

Ouch, that's the module I was refering to. I thought you are going to
release it :) it worked for me...

> I think I'll have a version of Apache::Gzip up on CPAN within a couple
> of days.  Eager-worts can look at
> http://mathforum.com/~ken/modules/Apache-Gzip/ in the meantime.
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: Big pages and gzip

2000-06-07 Thread Ken Williams

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stas Bekman) wrote:

>On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Mark Hewis wrote:
>
>> it would seem to be quite straight forward to implement a handler to gzip
>> all output html files depending on the allowed mime-types and/or user_agent.
>> This would reduce many pages by up to a factor of 10 in size. 
>> 
>> 1) Is anyone already doing?
>> 2) If not why not?
>> 3) what borwsers would accept html files in a gzipped format
>
>it's there for a long time:
>Apache::Gzip
>Apache::GzipChain

Actually, as far as I know there's no Apache::Gzip.  But that's a lie
too - I've been harboring a new Apache::Gzip that seems to work, and
plays well with Apache::Filter too.  As if you couldn't guess that based
on my other modules. =)

I think I'll have a version of Apache::Gzip up on CPAN within a couple
of days.  Eager-worts can look at
http://mathforum.com/~ken/modules/Apache-Gzip/ in the meantime.


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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]The Math Forum





Re: Big pages and gzip

2000-06-07 Thread Stas Bekman

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Mark Hewis wrote:

> it would seem to be quite straight forward to implement a handler to gzip
> all output html files depending on the allowed mime-types and/or user_agent.
> This would reduce many pages by up to a factor of 10 in size. 
> 
> 1) Is anyone already doing?
> 2) If not why not?
> 3) what borwsers would accept html files in a gzipped format

it's there for a long time:
Apache::Gzip
Apache::GzipChain

It's based on the Accept-Encoding =~ /gzip/ match, and some use User-Agent
but the first one should be enough. (The second is used to discard agents
that known not to handle GZIP while they claim that they can)

For more info see the guide and modules' respective manpages.

> Thanks
> 
> Mark
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Big pages and gzip

2000-06-07 Thread Mark Hewis

it would seem to be quite straight forward to implement a handler to gzip
all output html files depending on the allowed mime-types and/or user_agent.
This would reduce many pages by up to a factor of 10 in size. 

1) Is anyone already doing?
2) If not why not?
3) what borwsers would accept html files in a gzipped format

Thanks

Mark

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