Re: DOJ files suit to enforce FCC penalty for robocalls

2021-10-22 Thread Dovid Bender
We have telco's registered in the US, Cyprus and Israel. Lately I'm Europe
we have been getting emails from people using protonmail. The conversation
dies one we ask for business registration documents.

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 16:14 Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG 
wrote:

> My normal test for this is to register a new domain name and leave my
> whois info public.
>
> Over the span of 1-2 weeks I will usually get 50-100 calls from people
> with a certain accent asking for a  mispronunciation of my name and if I
> need a website developed.  Then I forward them over to my spam recording
> line.
>
> I registered a handful of new domains this week, and I've had less than 5
> calls so far.
>
> -A
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 12:13 PM Michael Thomas  wrote:
>
>>
>> On 10/21/21 10:57 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:
>> >
>> > The multi-million dollar fines announced with great fanfaire by the
>> > Federal Communication Commission are almost never collected. The FCC
>> > doesn't have enforcement authority to collect fines. The FCC usually
>> > withholds license renewals until penalties are paid. If the violator
>> > doesn't have any FCC licenses (or doesn't care), the FCC is powerless.
>> >
>> > The FCC refers uncollected penalties to the Department of Justice. In
>> > the past, DOJ didn't prioritize uncollected penalties and most fines
>> > were never enforced.
>> >
>> >
>> > The Department of Justice Files Suit to Recover $9.9 Million
>> > Forfeiture Penalty for Nearly 5,000 Illegally Spoofed Robocalls
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-files-suit-recover-forfeiture-penalty-nearly-5000-illegally-spoofed
>> >
>>
>> So has any of the STIR/SHAKEN stuff that was mandated made any
>> difference on the ground yet? I assume this is different than what you
>> posted about though.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>


Re: DOJ files suit to enforce FCC penalty for robocalls

2021-10-21 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
My normal test for this is to register a new domain name and leave my whois
info public.

Over the span of 1-2 weeks I will usually get 50-100 calls from people with
a certain accent asking for a  mispronunciation of my name and if I need a
website developed.  Then I forward them over to my spam recording line.

I registered a handful of new domains this week, and I've had less than 5
calls so far.

-A


On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 12:13 PM Michael Thomas  wrote:

>
> On 10/21/21 10:57 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:
> >
> > The multi-million dollar fines announced with great fanfaire by the
> > Federal Communication Commission are almost never collected. The FCC
> > doesn't have enforcement authority to collect fines. The FCC usually
> > withholds license renewals until penalties are paid. If the violator
> > doesn't have any FCC licenses (or doesn't care), the FCC is powerless.
> >
> > The FCC refers uncollected penalties to the Department of Justice. In
> > the past, DOJ didn't prioritize uncollected penalties and most fines
> > were never enforced.
> >
> >
> > The Department of Justice Files Suit to Recover $9.9 Million
> > Forfeiture Penalty for Nearly 5,000 Illegally Spoofed Robocalls
> >
> >
> https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-files-suit-recover-forfeiture-penalty-nearly-5000-illegally-spoofed
> >
>
> So has any of the STIR/SHAKEN stuff that was mandated made any
> difference on the ground yet? I assume this is different than what you
> posted about though.
>
> Mike
>
>


Re: DOJ files suit to enforce FCC penalty for robocalls

2021-10-21 Thread Michael Thomas



On 10/21/21 10:57 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:


The multi-million dollar fines announced with great fanfaire by the 
Federal Communication Commission are almost never collected. The FCC 
doesn't have enforcement authority to collect fines. The FCC usually 
withholds license renewals until penalties are paid. If the violator 
doesn't have any FCC licenses (or doesn't care), the FCC is powerless.


The FCC refers uncollected penalties to the Department of Justice. In 
the past, DOJ didn't prioritize uncollected penalties and most fines 
were never enforced.



The Department of Justice Files Suit to Recover $9.9 Million 
Forfeiture Penalty for Nearly 5,000 Illegally Spoofed Robocalls


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-files-suit-recover-forfeiture-penalty-nearly-5000-illegally-spoofed 



So has any of the STIR/SHAKEN stuff that was mandated made any 
difference on the ground yet? I assume this is different than what you 
posted about though.


Mike



DOJ files suit to enforce FCC penalty for robocalls

2021-10-21 Thread Sean Donelan



The multi-million dollar fines announced with great fanfaire by the 
Federal Communication Commission are almost never collected. The FCC 
doesn't have enforcement authority to collect fines. The FCC usually 
withholds license renewals until penalties are paid. If the violator 
doesn't have any FCC licenses (or doesn't care), the FCC is powerless.


The FCC refers uncollected penalties to the Department of Justice. In the 
past, DOJ didn't prioritize uncollected penalties and most fines were 
never enforced.



The Department of Justice Files Suit to Recover $9.9 Million Forfeiture 
Penalty for Nearly 5,000 Illegally Spoofed Robocalls


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-files-suit-recover-forfeiture-penalty-nearly-5000-illegally-spoofed