Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the concepts are there. Regards, Michael H.
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
While on a MPLS related TAC case recently, I was speaking to an engineer who helped vet portions of Cisco Press' MPLS Fundamentals (http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587051974). He said it's one of the best he's come across, but there may perhaps be some bias there ;) Not knowing any better, I picked it up and I'm learning quite a bit. It's also seems to be a great reference manual to keep around too. The Kindle version is handy for quick reference from mobile devices too. On 2010-12-23, at 5:49 PM, Michael Helmeste wrote: > Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all > associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? > > I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from > A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how > someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. > > Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject > would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the > concepts are there. > > Regards, >Michael H. > >
RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
IMO the best book on the market is 'MPLS-Enabled Applications' by Ina Minei, Julian Lucek. It has the best coverage all the things you mentioned plus VPLS, P2MP LSP, draft-rosen and NG-VPN multicast architectures and the explanations are clear and concise. I wrote a review of this book a while back: http://www.shortestpathfirst.net/2009/11/30/book-review-mpls-aplications/ This book is awesome. You won't regret buying it. Stefan Fouant > -Original Message- > From: Michael Helmeste [mailto:mhelm...@uvic.ca] > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 5:49 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Good MPLS/VPLS book? > >Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all > associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? > >I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit > from > A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how > someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. > >Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this > subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as > long > as the concepts are there. > >Regards, > Michael H. >
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
On Dec 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Michael Helmeste wrote: > Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all > associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? > > I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from > A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how > someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. > > Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject > would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the > concepts are there. > > Regards, >Michael H. > > Designing and Implementing IP/MPLS-Based Ethernet Layer 2 VPN Services: An Advanced Guide for VPLS and VLL (Paperback) Zhuo Xu I thought was pretty good.
RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Looks like a good book to add to my bookshelf. Cisco's MPLS fundamentals is also a good book although I'm only halfway through it > From: sfou...@shortestpathfirst.net > To: mhelm...@uvic.ca; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book? > Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:06:03 -0500 > > IMO the best book on the market is 'MPLS-Enabled Applications' by Ina Minei, > Julian Lucek. It has the best coverage all the things you mentioned plus > VPLS, P2MP LSP, draft-rosen and NG-VPN multicast architectures and the > explanations are clear and concise. > > I wrote a review of this book a while back: > > http://www.shortestpathfirst.net/2009/11/30/book-review-mpls-aplications/ > > This book is awesome. You won't regret buying it. > > Stefan Fouant > > > -Original Message- > > From: Michael Helmeste [mailto:mhelm...@uvic.ca] > > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 5:49 PM > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Subject: Good MPLS/VPLS book? > > > >Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all > > associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? > > > >I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit > > from > > A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how > > someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. > > > >Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this > > subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as > > long > > as the concepts are there. > > > >Regards, > > Michael H. > > > > >
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Thanks for the suggestions, all! Looks like I have some reading to do. On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:49:46 -0500 Dan Snyder wrote: > > > On Dec 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Michael Helmeste wrote: > > > Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all > > associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? > > > > I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from > > A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how > > someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. > > > > Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject > > would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the > > concepts are there. > > > > Regards, > >Michael H. > > > > > > Designing and Implementing IP/MPLS-Based Ethernet Layer 2 VPN Services: An > Advanced Guide for VPLS and VLL (Paperback) > Zhuo Xu > > I thought was pretty good.
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
The most comprehensive text is MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293194786&sr=8-1 On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste wrote: > Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all > associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? > > I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from > A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how > someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. > > Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject > would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the > concepts are there. > > Regards, >Michael H. > > > -- Best Regards, Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (R&S/SP) Senior Network Engineer, Core Team. NOOR Data Networks, SAE Mobile# +2-010-2345-956 http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011 http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2 I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE ... anybody has any idea if this is in ? F. On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote: > The most comprehensive text is MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei > > http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293194786&sr=8-1 > > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste wrote: > >> Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all >> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? >> >> I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from >> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how >> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. >> >> Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject >> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the >> concepts are there. >> >> Regards, >> Michael H. >> >> >> > > > -- > Best Regards, > Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (R&S/SP) > Senior Network Engineer, Core Team. > NOOR Data Networks, SAE > Mobile# +2-010-2345-956 > http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Amazon has detailed TOC and couple of chapters online so you should get all the info. MPLS-TP gets a decent coverage in this book. thanks, Shahid On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Francois Menard wrote: > Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011 > > > http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2 > > I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE > ... anybody has any idea if this is in ? > > F. > > On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote: > > > The most comprehensive text is MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293194786&sr=8-1 > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste > wrote: > > > >> Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all > >> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? > >> > >> I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit > from > >> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how > >> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. > >> > >> Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this > subject > >> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the > >> concepts are there. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Michael H. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > > Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (R&S/SP) > > Senior Network Engineer, Core Team. > > NOOR Data Networks, SAE > > Mobile# +2-010-2345-956 > > http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed > > >
RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Decisions decisions, I do have other MPLS books I have not finished. I suppose I can finish them before picking this up and then getting the 3rd edition.might be good timing. Good thing I didn't order the 2nd edition the other day! > Subject: Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book? > From: franc...@menards.ca > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 20:42:24 -0500 > To: mounir.moha...@gmail.com > CC: nanog@nanog.org > > Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011 > > http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2 > > I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE ... > anybody has any idea if this is in ? > > F. > > On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote: > > > The most comprehensive text is MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei > > > > http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293194786&sr=8-1 > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste wrote: > > > >> Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all > >> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? > >> > >> I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from > >> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how > >> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. > >> > >> Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject > >> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the > >> concepts are there. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Michael H. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > > Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (R&S/SP) > > Senior Network Engineer, Core Team. > > NOOR Data Networks, SAE > > Mobile# +2-010-2345-956 > > http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed > >
Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
FYI, the 3rd edition was released early. Was delivered this morning from Amazon. It has a whole new chapter on MPLS-TP (Ch. 17). Hope this helps, -Jeff On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Brandon Kim wrote: > > Decisions decisions, I do have other MPLS books I have not finished. I > suppose I can finish them before > picking this up and then getting the 3rd edition.might be good timing. > Good thing I didn't order the > 2nd edition the other day! > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book? >> From: franc...@menards.ca >> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 20:42:24 -0500 >> To: mounir.moha...@gmail.com >> CC: nanog@nanog.org >> >> Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011 >> >> http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2 >> >> I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE >> ... anybody has any idea if this is in ? >> >> F. >> >> On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote: >> >>> The most comprehensive text is MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei >>> >>> http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293194786&sr=8-1 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste wrote: >>> >>>> Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all >>>> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? >>>> >>>> I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from >>>> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how >>>> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. >>>> >>>> Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject >>>> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the >>>> concepts are there. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Michael H. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best Regards, >>> Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (R&S/SP) >>> Senior Network Engineer, Core Team. >>> NOOR Data Networks, SAE >>> Mobile# +2-010-2345-956 >>> http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed >> >> >
RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
Wow thanks for the heads up! I went ahead and bought the other MPLS books, I guess I'll have to go get this one too now... This is very early.I wonder why the rush? > Subject: Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book? > From: jeff.richm...@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:24:21 -0800 > CC: franc...@menards.ca; mounir.moha...@gmail.com; nanog@nanog.org > To: brandon@brandontek.com > > FYI, the 3rd edition was released early. Was delivered this morning from > Amazon. It has a whole new chapter on MPLS-TP (Ch. 17). > > Hope this helps, > -Jeff > > On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Brandon Kim wrote: > > > > > Decisions decisions, I do have other MPLS books I have not finished. I > > suppose I can finish them before > > picking this up and then getting the 3rd edition.might be good timing. > > Good thing I didn't order the > > 2nd edition the other day! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book? > >> From: franc...@menards.ca > >> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 20:42:24 -0500 > >> To: mounir.moha...@gmail.com > >> CC: nanog@nanog.org > >> > >> Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011 > >> > >> http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2 > >> > >> I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE > >> ... anybody has any idea if this is in ? > >> > >> F. > >> > >> On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote: > >> > >>> The most comprehensive text is MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei > >>> > >>> http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293194786&sr=8-1 > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all > >>>> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)? > >>>> > >>>> I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from > >>>> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how > >>>> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points. > >>>> > >>>> Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this > >>>> subject > >>>> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the > >>>> concepts are there. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Michael H. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Best Regards, > >>> Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (R&S/SP) > >>> Senior Network Engineer, Core Team. > >>> NOOR Data Networks, SAE > >>> Mobile# +2-010-2345-956 > >>> http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com > >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed > >> > >> > > >
