Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
> On Dec 4, 2007 1:19 AM, vijay gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 12/3/07, Martin Hannigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted > > > something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success > > > or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions > > > of NANOG and that they believe that these types of emails related to > > > the conference program are not relevant to the main list. > > > > > > Marty, put down the rock made from crack. > > Stop holding the torche then. Really, it's innocuous. I'm just asking. > > -M< Let's not get distracted with these ridiculous posts asking for "submissions" to our so-called "conference". I've been following futures silently for over a year, and I heard the first good idea a few weeks ago: a live play depicting the political goings-on of NANOG; here's a scene that simply must be included: Martin trying to smoke crack with a *torch* held by Vijay. -Jason ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
Hi Guys:> I reminded them that this announcements should go to NANOG-Announce... not to futures... Betty --On Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:10 AM -0500 Martin Hannigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted > something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success > or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions > of NANOG and that they believe that these types of emails related to > the conference program are not relevant to the main list. > > Why is that? > > -M< > > > > > On Dec 3, 2007 1:09 PM, Ren Provo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> This is a reminder to submit presentations for NANOG42 in San Jose, CA >> to be held February 2008. Quality abstracts have been arriving over >> the past month. A few people promised to send along presentations in >> December. If anyone has a work in progress to submit please do so >> now. The program committee will meet this week to pull together the >> rough draft of the agenda for NANOG42. We have confirmed a keynote >> speaker and several interesting panels are on the schedule already. >> We have some flexibility for tutorials on Sunday and a few general >> assembly speaker slots at this point. There will be blocks for >> lightning talks each day and you may submit presentations in advance >> of February. This is a good thing based on survey info. Our goal is >> to set forth a solid agenda for folks to utilize when mulling travel >> requests this month. >> >> http://www.nanog.org/presentations.html is the best location to review >> for complete submission guidelines. >> > > ___ > Nanog-futures mailing list > Nanog-futures@nanog.org > http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
It was a legit question and I thought exactly the same thing about it going to the list and was checking before I forwarded it. When I do speak as someone from the MLC, Ill say so. I usually do. May have been easier to ask what I meant before jumping the gun. On 12/4/07, Robert E. Seastrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Martin Hannigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted > > something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success > > or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions > > of NANOG and that they believe that these types of emails related to > > the conference program are not relevant to the main list. > > > > Why is that? > > First, it was a post to -futures; whether or not it was off-topic for > the main list is completely beside the point. Even if it was on the > main list though (and frankly, I think it SHOULD HAVE been posted to > the main list), this is a CFP for *our own conference*. How on earth > could it be "not relevant to the main list"? > > Please do us all a favor and stop undermining the credibility of your > colleagues on the MLC with this tripe. Looking for opportunities to > twist the words of the AUP does not serve anyone's interests. > > ---Rob (no longer on the MLC, no hat) > > > ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
The most interesting part of my attempt to spark participation in future meetings is that Merit reminded me of a mailing list I hadn't given any thought to at all - NANOG Announce. Perhaps that is where the plea for assistance should have been distributed. I didn't post it on the main list to prevent a thirty-man thread about how it wouldn't fit into a switch, router, or electrical outlet in an exchange point. Meeting preparation seemed to be more futures and less operations focused. I just wanted to give an opportunity for those with good intent to make the deadline. Period. Cheers, -Ren Provo, Program Committee On Dec 4, 2007 6:37 AM, David Barak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- On Tue, 12/4/07, Robert E. Seastrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Robert E. Seastrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please > > To: "Martin Hannigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Tuesday, December 4, 2007, 5:55 AM > > > "Martin Hannigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > writes: > > > > > This is the second time someone from the Program > > Committee has posted > > > something that seemed to be asking for something to > > help our success > > > or informing people about standard (revenue generating > > even) functions > > > of NANOG and that they believe that these types of > > emails related to > > > the conference program are not relevant to the main > > list. > > > > > > Why is that? > > > > First, it was a post to -futures; whether or not it was > > off-topic for > > the main list is completely beside the point. Even if it > > was on the > > main list though (and frankly, I think it SHOULD HAVE been > > posted to > > the main list), this is a CFP for *our own conference*. > > How on earth > > could it be "not relevant to the main list"? > > > > Please do us all a favor and stop undermining the > > credibility of your > > colleagues on the MLC with this tripe. Looking for > > opportunities to > > twist the words of the AUP does not serve anyone's > > interests. > > I think Marty was asking why it was posted to -futures rather than to the > main list, with the implication that it would have been on-topic there, and > would certainly reach a wider audience. > > David Barak > Need Geek Rock? Try The Franchise: > http://www.listentothefranchise.com > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > ___ > Nanog-futures mailing list > Nanog-futures@nanog.org > http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures > ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
Hi Simon, Simon Lyall said the following on 4/12/07 21:24: > I have no idea what is going on here but can the people on various > committees please resign, fire, stage coups or whatever in private rather > than involving innocent list members (and "The Register" reporters > scanning the archives) who can't really participate since we only see 10% > of what is happening. Well, there are no coups, firings or whatever happening on the various NANOG committees. I do agree that much of the recent "discussion" here has had very little to do with nanog-futures, and has had a lot to do with bringing our entire community into disrepute. As you rightly point out, there are more participants than just North American network operators on both the nanog-futures and main nanog lists, and some of the disappointing antics seen recently do nothing to enhance the reputation of our industry or improve NANOG itself. > Please post a summary of the updated Committee/Administrator membership > once this is over. Obviously such announcements go to the nanog-announce list. If any changes happen before the election/appointment cycle repeats itself in October next year, you'll find out there. Finally, an appeal! Everyone, please, can we all get back to talking about future developments, improvements, etc that are required for NANOG. Thanks, philip SC Chair -- ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
--- On Tue, 12/4/07, Robert E. Seastrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Robert E. Seastrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please > To: "Martin Hannigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tuesday, December 4, 2007, 5:55 AM > "Martin Hannigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > > This is the second time someone from the Program > Committee has posted > > something that seemed to be asking for something to > help our success > > or informing people about standard (revenue generating > even) functions > > of NANOG and that they believe that these types of > emails related to > > the conference program are not relevant to the main > list. > > > > Why is that? > > First, it was a post to -futures; whether or not it was > off-topic for > the main list is completely beside the point. Even if it > was on the > main list though (and frankly, I think it SHOULD HAVE been > posted to > the main list), this is a CFP for *our own conference*. > How on earth > could it be "not relevant to the main list"? > > Please do us all a favor and stop undermining the > credibility of your > colleagues on the MLC with this tripe. Looking for > opportunities to > twist the words of the AUP does not serve anyone's > interests. I think Marty was asking why it was posted to -futures rather than to the main list, with the implication that it would have been on-topic there, and would certainly reach a wider audience. David Barak Need Geek Rock? Try The Franchise: http://www.listentothefranchise.com Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
I have no idea what is going on here but can the people on various committees please resign, fire, stage coups or whatever in private rather than involving innocent list members (and "The Register" reporters scanning the archives) who can't really participate since we only see 10% of what is happening. Please post a summary of the updated Committee/Administrator membership once this is over. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT. ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
"Martin Hannigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted > something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success > or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions > of NANOG and that they believe that these types of emails related to > the conference program are not relevant to the main list. > > Why is that? First, it was a post to -futures; whether or not it was off-topic for the main list is completely beside the point. Even if it was on the main list though (and frankly, I think it SHOULD HAVE been posted to the main list), this is a CFP for *our own conference*. How on earth could it be "not relevant to the main list"? Please do us all a favor and stop undermining the credibility of your colleagues on the MLC with this tripe. Looking for opportunities to twist the words of the AUP does not serve anyone's interests. ---Rob (no longer on the MLC, no hat) ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
On Dec 4, 2007 1:19 AM, vijay gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 12/3/07, Martin Hannigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted > > something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success > > or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions > > of NANOG and that they believe that these types of emails related to > > the conference program are not relevant to the main list. > > > Marty, put down the rock made from crack. Stop holding the torche then. Really, it's innocuous. I'm just asking. -M< ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
On 12/3/07, Martin Hannigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted > something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success > or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions > of NANOG and that they believe that these types of emails related to > the conference program are not relevant to the main list. Marty, put down the rock made from crack. /vijay Why is that? > > -M< > > > > > On Dec 3, 2007 1:09 PM, Ren Provo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > This is a reminder to submit presentations for NANOG42 in San Jose, CA > > to be held February 2008. Quality abstracts have been arriving over > > the past month. A few people promised to send along presentations in > > December. If anyone has a work in progress to submit please do so > > now. The program committee will meet this week to pull together the > > rough draft of the agenda for NANOG42. We have confirmed a keynote > > speaker and several interesting panels are on the schedule already. > > We have some flexibility for tutorials on Sunday and a few general > > assembly speaker slots at this point. There will be blocks for > > lightning talks each day and you may submit presentations in advance > > of February. This is a good thing based on survey info. Our goal is > > to set forth a solid agenda for folks to utilize when mulling travel > > requests this month. > > > > http://www.nanog.org/presentations.html is the best location to review > > for complete submission guidelines. > > > > ___ > Nanog-futures mailing list > Nanog-futures@nanog.org > http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures > ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions of NANOG and that they believe that these types of emails related to the conference program are not relevant to the main list. Why is that? -M< On Dec 3, 2007 1:09 PM, Ren Provo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > This is a reminder to submit presentations for NANOG42 in San Jose, CA > to be held February 2008. Quality abstracts have been arriving over > the past month. A few people promised to send along presentations in > December. If anyone has a work in progress to submit please do so > now. The program committee will meet this week to pull together the > rough draft of the agenda for NANOG42. We have confirmed a keynote > speaker and several interesting panels are on the schedule already. > We have some flexibility for tutorials on Sunday and a few general > assembly speaker slots at this point. There will be blocks for > lightning talks each day and you may submit presentations in advance > of February. This is a good thing based on survey info. Our goal is > to set forth a solid agenda for folks to utilize when mulling travel > requests this month. > > http://www.nanog.org/presentations.html is the best location to review > for complete submission guidelines. > ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
[Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
Hi folks, This is a reminder to submit presentations for NANOG42 in San Jose, CA to be held February 2008. Quality abstracts have been arriving over the past month. A few people promised to send along presentations in December. If anyone has a work in progress to submit please do so now. The program committee will meet this week to pull together the rough draft of the agenda for NANOG42. We have confirmed a keynote speaker and several interesting panels are on the schedule already. We have some flexibility for tutorials on Sunday and a few general assembly speaker slots at this point. There will be blocks for lightning talks each day and you may submit presentations in advance of February. This is a good thing based on survey info. Our goal is to set forth a solid agenda for folks to utilize when mulling travel requests this month. http://www.nanog.org/presentations.html is the best location to review for complete submission guidelines. Many thanks in advance! -Ren Provo, Vice-Chair, NANOG Program Committee ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
