Re: Internet Connection Sharing

2009-12-14 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 09:30 -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 01:34:06PM +, Martin Owens wrote:
> > Hello Chuck,
> > 
> > On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 01:01 -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > 
> > > I sometimes find myself in scenarios where I have a wireless 
> > > connection to the internet that I'd like to share with wired-only 
> > > devices (no wifi cards in them).  How hard would it be to make the 
> > > "Create new wireless network..." dialog generic like "Share network 
> > > connection..."?  Basically, I would like to be able to share any 
> > > active internet connection to any other medium, wired or wireless or 
> > > whatever.
> > 
> > Would this help you?
> > 
> > http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/ubuntus-internet-connection-sharing/
> 
> Yes, thank you.  Why wasn't this feature touted and advertized as much 
> as Wireless network sharing was?  I think the disparity between wired 
> sharing and "Create new wireless network..." should be addressed.

Partially because the user interface to make it easier to set up isn't
there.  But it was on the list of bullet points for 0.7 in most of the
stuff I wrote about in release notes or blogs, as far as I remember.

Dan


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Re: Internet Connection Sharing

2009-12-14 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 01:34:06PM +, Martin Owens wrote:
> Hello Chuck,
> 
> On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 01:01 -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> 
> > I sometimes find myself in scenarios where I have a wireless 
> > connection to the internet that I'd like to share with wired-only 
> > devices (no wifi cards in them).  How hard would it be to make the 
> > "Create new wireless network..." dialog generic like "Share network 
> > connection..."?  Basically, I would like to be able to share any 
> > active internet connection to any other medium, wired or wireless or 
> > whatever.
> 
> Would this help you?
> 
> http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/ubuntus-internet-connection-sharing/

Yes, thank you.  Why wasn't this feature touted and advertized as much 
as Wireless network sharing was?  I think the disparity between wired 
sharing and "Create new wireless network..." should be addressed.
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Re: Internet Connection Sharing

2009-12-11 Thread Martin Owens
Hello Chuck,

On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 01:01 -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote:

> I sometimes find myself in scenarios where I have a wireless 
> connection to the internet that I'd like to share with wired-only 
> devices (no wifi cards in them).  How hard would it be to make the 
> "Create new wireless network..." dialog generic like "Share network 
> connection..."?  Basically, I would like to be able to share any 
> active internet connection to any other medium, wired or wireless or 
> whatever.

Would this help you?

http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/ubuntus-internet-connection-sharing/


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Re: Internet Connection Sharing

2009-12-10 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 11:31:29AM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 19:24 +, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> > Looking at a video Dan Williams posted to Redhat Magazine shows enabling
> > it is now as simple as creating the new connection in ad-hoc mode with ipv4
> > settings as 'available to other computers' but on my F12 system this doesn't
> > start dnsmasq etc. Is it still required to set this all up manually or does 
> > nm do
> > all that's required now?
> 
> Basically, you need an existing connection to the internet.  Then you
> create another "shared" connection that your other computers will
> access.  When you have both of those, then NM will start dnsmasq and
> everything and NAT the "shared" connection to the main internet
> connection.
> 
> If you've already got an internet connection, then just choose "Create
> new wireless network..." from the menu, type in the details, and it
> should set that new network up.  You can then connect to that adhoc wifi
> network from other computers, and they will get IP addresses via DHCP
> from your machine.

I sometimes find myself in scenarios where I have a wireless 
connection to the internet that I'd like to share with wired-only 
devices (no wifi cards in them).  How hard would it be to make the 
"Create new wireless network..." dialog generic like "Share network 
connection..."?  Basically, I would like to be able to share any 
active internet connection to any other medium, wired or wireless or 
whatever.
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RE: Internet Connection Sharing

2009-12-08 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 03:36 +, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> >Basically, you need an existing connection to the internet.  Then you create 
> >another "shared" connection that your other computers will access.  When you 
> >have both of those, >then NM will start dnsmasq and everything and NAT the 
> >"shared" connection to the main internet connection.
> >
> >If you've already got an internet connection, then just choose "Create new 
> >wireless network..." from the menu, type in the details, and it should set 
> >that new network up.  You >can then connect to that adhoc wifi network from 
> >other computers, and they will get IP addresses via DHCP from your machine.
> 
> Dan,
> Just to clarify, does nm actually instantiate a dhcp server, and create the 
> subnet etc?
> I don't have a dhcp server installed, but I do have dnsmasq installed.

Yes, NM will do all these things.  dnsmasq is both a caching DNS server
and a lightweight DHCP server.  So NM just uses it for both functions.

> I have a wired connection that has internet access through a firewall behind 
> it, yet
> nothing I do is making this connection sharing work:)

Can you grab logs from /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log for me
that show the issue?  That will help isolate things.

Dan


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RE: Internet Connection Sharing

2009-12-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>Basically, you need an existing connection to the internet.  Then you create 
>another "shared" connection that your other computers will access.  When you 
>have both of those, >then NM will start dnsmasq and everything and NAT the 
>"shared" connection to the main internet connection.
>
>If you've already got an internet connection, then just choose "Create new 
>wireless network..." from the menu, type in the details, and it should set 
>that new network up.  You >can then connect to that adhoc wifi network from 
>other computers, and they will get IP addresses via DHCP from your machine.

Dan,
Just to clarify, does nm actually instantiate a dhcp server, and create the 
subnet etc?
I don't have a dhcp server installed, but I do have dnsmasq installed.

I have a wired connection that has internet access through a firewall behind 
it, yet
nothing I do is making this connection sharing work:)

Thanks!
jlc
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Re: Internet Connection Sharing

2009-12-07 Thread Dan Williams
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 19:24 +, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> Looking at a video Dan Williams posted to Redhat Magazine shows enabling
> it is now as simple as creating the new connection in ad-hoc mode with ipv4
> settings as 'available to other computers' but on my F12 system this doesn't
> start dnsmasq etc. Is it still required to set this all up manually or does 
> nm do
> all that's required now?

Basically, you need an existing connection to the internet.  Then you
create another "shared" connection that your other computers will
access.  When you have both of those, then NM will start dnsmasq and
everything and NAT the "shared" connection to the main internet
connection.

If you've already got an internet connection, then just choose "Create
new wireless network..." from the menu, type in the details, and it
should set that new network up.  You can then connect to that adhoc wifi
network from other computers, and they will get IP addresses via DHCP
from your machine.

Dan


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Re: Internet Connection Sharing

2009-12-06 Thread Conrad Meyer
On Sunday 06 December 2009 11:24:47 am Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> Looking at a video Dan Williams posted to Redhat Magazine shows enabling
> it is now as simple as creating the new connection in ad-hoc mode with ipv4
> settings as 'available to other computers' but on my F12 system this
>  doesn't start dnsmasq etc. Is it still required to set this all up
>  manually or does nm do all that's required now?
> 
> Thanks!
> jlc

At least in my experience, on Fedora 11, the machines who are using the shared 
connection are able to dhcp successfully. (So, I think NM does everything 
automatically.)

Regards,
-- 
Conrad Meyer 
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Re: Internet connection sharing

2009-11-18 Thread Neil Broadley
2009/11/17 Jud Craft 

> > When doing that, in the IPv4 tab, choose the "Shared" IPv4 method.
> > Then, hook up your wired cable, and pick your new shared connection from
> > the menu.  NM will now NAT the wired subnet to the current default
> > connection, which I assume would be your wifi.  You can also share 3G ->
> > wired this way.  Or 3G -> wifi.  etc.
>
> That.  Is freaking awesome.
>

Just to note that I used this only last week in Ubuntu 9.10 and it worked
flawlessly.  WIFI card connects to the internet, then shared the local eth0
with an Xbox360 to provide internet to that device.  So easy, very
impressive.


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Re: Internet connection sharing

2009-11-17 Thread Jud Craft
> When doing that, in the IPv4 tab, choose the "Shared" IPv4 method.
> Then, hook up your wired cable, and pick your new shared connection from
> the menu.  NM will now NAT the wired subnet to the current default
> connection, which I assume would be your wifi.  You can also share 3G ->
> wired this way.  Or 3G -> wifi.  etc.

That.  Is freaking awesome.
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Re: Internet connection sharing

2009-11-17 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 02:05 +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Fernando Pereira  
> wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply.
> > Hum... if it does NAT then how can users know about that? But actually, many
> > times I want to share the internet I get via wireless to my wired
> > connection. It acts the same way?
> 
> Yes you can create a shared wired connection via the edit connections
> window too.

When doing that, in the IPv4 tab, choose the "Shared" IPv4 method.
Then, hook up your wired cable, and pick your new shared connection from
the menu.  NM will now NAT the wired subnet to the current default
connection, which I assume would be your wifi.  You can also share 3G ->
wired this way.  Or 3G -> wifi.  etc.

Dan


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Re: Internet connection sharing

2009-11-12 Thread Benoit Boissinot
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Fernando Pereira  wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.
> Hum... if it does NAT then how can users know about that? But actually, many
> times I want to share the internet I get via wireless to my wired
> connection. It acts the same way?

Yes you can create a shared wired connection via the edit connections
window too.

regards,

Benoit
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Re: Internet connection sharing

2009-11-12 Thread Fernando Pereira
Thanks for the reply.
Hum... if it does NAT then how can users know about that? But actually, many
times I want to share the internet I get via wireless to my wired
connection. It acts the same way?
Cheers

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:19 PM, John Mahoney  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:19 PM, John Mahoney  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Fernando Pereira 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>> first of all this is my first post to this list. Cheers everybody!
>>>
>>> I'm just starting a telecom projects related so I'm using linux (ubuntu)
>>> quite intensively.
>>> One thing that i'm doing all the time is to share the network access with
>>> NAT (you know... iptables, masquerading, ip forwarding...).
>>> And I though: Isn't it just missing in network-manager? MSWindows does
>>> this with two clicks, so such option could certainly follow the ideal of
>>> "simple and useful".
>>> Forgive me if it was already though, implemented or discarded, but I'm
>>> new to this place.
>>>
>>>
>> It does this already. Right click applet in notification area and select
>> Create New Wireless Network...(Ubuntu 9.10 gnome is where my example is
>> from)
>>
>
> Left click
>
>
>
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Re: Internet connection sharing

2009-11-12 Thread John Mahoney
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:19 PM, John Mahoney  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Fernando Pereira wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>> first of all this is my first post to this list. Cheers everybody!
>>
>> I'm just starting a telecom projects related so I'm using linux (ubuntu)
>> quite intensively.
>> One thing that i'm doing all the time is to share the network access with
>> NAT (you know... iptables, masquerading, ip forwarding...).
>> And I though: Isn't it just missing in network-manager? MSWindows does
>> this with two clicks, so such option could certainly follow the ideal of
>> "simple and useful".
>> Forgive me if it was already though, implemented or discarded, but I'm new
>> to this place.
>>
>>
> It does this already. Right click applet in notification area and select
> Create New Wireless Network...(Ubuntu 9.10 gnome is where my example is
> from)
>

Left click
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Re: Internet connection sharing

2009-11-12 Thread John Mahoney
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Fernando Pereira wrote:

> Hi there,
> first of all this is my first post to this list. Cheers everybody!
>
> I'm just starting a telecom projects related so I'm using linux (ubuntu)
> quite intensively.
> One thing that i'm doing all the time is to share the network access with
> NAT (you know... iptables, masquerading, ip forwarding...).
> And I though: Isn't it just missing in network-manager? MSWindows does this
> with two clicks, so such option could certainly follow the ideal of "simple
> and useful".
> Forgive me if it was already though, implemented or discarded, but I'm new
> to this place.
>
>
It does this already. Right click applet in notification area and select
Create New Wireless Network...(Ubuntu 9.10 gnome is where my example is
from)

>
>
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