FC31 : won't activate interfaces - "strictly unmanaged"

2020-01-25 Thread sean darcy via networkmanager-list

Fedora FC31. NetworkManager-1.20.10-1.fc31.x86_64
This a cross post with Fedora user.

On FC31 I can't persistently rename the interfaces, see: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1777893


I'll give up and use FC31 interface names : enp1s0 and enp0s20u3.

I've used nmtui to set up the interfaces. But NM won't activate them 
because they are "strictly unmanaged" !!


What does that mean and how do I fix it ?

Is there some other way to persistently activate the interface ?

/etc/network/interfaces does not exist.

sean

 cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-enp*
TYPE=Ethernet
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
BOOTPROTO=none
IPADDR=10.10.11.251
PREFIX=24
DNS1=10.10.11.251
DEFROUTE=no
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=no
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=enp0s20u3
UUID=bf8aa45c-31e4-403a-9c14-c1a59bf0f2b2
ONBOOT=yes
DEVICE=enp0s20u3

TYPE=Ethernet
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
DEFROUTE=yes
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=yes
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=enp1s0
UUID=a1b089e9-5a13-4df7-8f09-9f54ebc56cea
DEVICE=enp1s0
ONBOOT=yes

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Re: FC31 : won't activate interfaces - "strictly unmanaged"

2020-01-26 Thread sean darcy via networkmanager-list

On 1/26/20 3:16 AM, Thomas Haller via networkmanager-list wrote:

On Sat, 2020-01-25 at 14:34 -0500, sean darcy via networkmanager-list
wrote:

Fedora FC31. NetworkManager-1.20.10-1.fc31.x86_64
This a cross post with Fedora user.

On FC31 I can't persistently rename the interfaces, see:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1777893

I'll give up and use FC31 interface names : enp1s0 and enp0s20u3.

I've used nmtui to set up the interfaces. But NM won't activate them
because they are "strictly unmanaged" !!


Hi,


I think this is a bug.

NetworkManager is running in initrd. Thereby it already activates the
interface. Later, udev wants to rename the interface, but since it's
already up, it fails to do so.

The result is that udev doesn't indicate that the device is
initialized, which causes NM to wait for it (and thus it's unmanaged).

It seems there are several potential issues:

   - why does NetworkManager even run in initrd, if you didn't configure
it to do so?

   - if NM is running in initrd, should it wait for udev to rename the
device?

   - why does udev completely fail in this case?

   - maybe NM should after a timeout stop waiting for udev, to mitigate
this issue.


You could look at the logfile to verify that. Enable level=TRACE
logging, but most interesting are also the messages from initrd and
udev.


best,
Thomas



What does that mean and how do I fix it ?

Is there some other way to persistently activate the interface ?

/etc/network/interfaces does not exist.

sean

   cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-enp*
TYPE=Ethernet
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
BOOTPROTO=none
IPADDR=10.10.11.251
PREFIX=24
DNS1=10.10.11.251
DEFROUTE=no
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=no
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=enp0s20u3
UUID=bf8aa45c-31e4-403a-9c14-c1a59bf0f2b2
ONBOOT=yes
DEVICE=enp0s20u3

TYPE=Ethernet
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
DEFROUTE=yes
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=yes
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=enp1s0
UUID=a1b089e9-5a13-4df7-8f09-9f54ebc56cea
DEVICE=enp1s0
ONBOOT=yes





Thanks for the quick response. I hope it's not a bug, since I'd like to 
get this machine up and running.


"Enable level=TRACE" where ? rsyslogd.conf ? For kernel ? udevd? 
everything ?


sean



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Re: FC31 : won't activate interfaces - "strictly unmanaged"

2020-01-27 Thread sean darcy via networkmanager-list

On 1/26/20 9:17 PM, sean darcy via networkmanager-list wrote:

On 1/26/20 3:16 AM, Thomas Haller via networkmanager-list wrote:

On Sat, 2020-01-25 at 14:34 -0500, sean darcy via networkmanager-list
wrote:

Fedora FC31. NetworkManager-1.20.10-1.fc31.x86_64
This a cross post with Fedora user.

On FC31 I can't persistently rename the interfaces, see:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1777893

I'll give up and use FC31 interface names : enp1s0 and enp0s20u3.

I've used nmtui to set up the interfaces. But NM won't activate them
because they are "strictly unmanaged" !!


Hi,


I think this is a bug.

NetworkManager is running in initrd. Thereby it already activates the
interface. Later, udev wants to rename the interface, but since it's
already up, it fails to do so.

The result is that udev doesn't indicate that the device is
initialized, which causes NM to wait for it (and thus it's unmanaged).

It seems there are several potential issues:

   - why does NetworkManager even run in initrd, if you didn't configure
it to do so?

   - if NM is running in initrd, should it wait for udev to rename the
device?

   - why does udev completely fail in this case?

   - maybe NM should after a timeout stop waiting for udev, to mitigate
this issue.


You could look at the logfile to verify that. Enable level=TRACE
logging, but most interesting are also the messages from initrd and
udev.


best,
Thomas



What does that mean and how do I fix it ?

Is there some other way to persistently activate the interface ?

/etc/network/interfaces does not exist.

sean

   cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-enp*
TYPE=Ethernet
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
BOOTPROTO=none
IPADDR=10.10.11.251
PREFIX=24
DNS1=10.10.11.251
DEFROUTE=no
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=no
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=enp0s20u3
UUID=bf8aa45c-31e4-403a-9c14-c1a59bf0f2b2
ONBOOT=yes
DEVICE=enp0s20u3

TYPE=Ethernet
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
DEFROUTE=yes
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=yes
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=enp1s0
UUID=a1b089e9-5a13-4df7-8f09-9f54ebc56cea
DEVICE=enp1s0
ONBOOT=yes





Thanks for the quick response. I hope it's not a bug, since I'd like to 
get this machine up and running.


"Enable level=TRACE" where ? rsyslogd.conf ? For kernel ? udevd? 
everything ?


sean


I put net.ifames=0 in the kernel command line. I removed the 
/etc/udev/rules/70-persistent-net.rules. I set up 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth[01].


On reboot, I had eth0 and eth1. eth1 was active. But eth0 was not 
active. When I used nmtui to activate eth0. I got the dreaded "strictly 
unmanaged" error.


Here's dmesg | grep eth0

:25 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: 
RTL8168gu/8111gu, 50:7b:9d:0b:8a:ab, XID 509, IRQ 44
:25 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: jumbo 
features [frames: 9200 bytes, tx checksumming: ko]
:27 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[484]:  
[1580149767.5593] manager: (eth0): new Ethernet device 
(/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/2)
:27 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[484]:  
[1580149767.5594] device (eth0): state change: unmanaged -> unavailable 
(reason 'managed', sys-iface-state: 'external')

:27 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: Link is Down
:30 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: Link is Up 
- 1Gbps/Full - flow control off
:30 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): 
eth0: link becomes ready
:30 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[484]:  
[1580149770.5499] device (eth0): carrier: link connected
:30 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[484]:  
[1580149770.5502] device (eth0): state change: unavailable -> 
disconnected (reason 'carrier-changed', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
:55 lenovo-gateway.riverside systemd-udevd[695]: eth0: Failed to rename 
network interface 2 from 'eth0' to 'external': Device or resource busy
:55 lenovo-gateway.riverside systemd-udevd[695]: eth0: Failed to process 
device, ignoring: Device or resource busy
Jan 27 13:30:33 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[975]:  
[1580149833.3056] device (eth0): carrier: link connected
Jan 27 13:30:33 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[975]:  
[1580149833.3059] manager: (eth0): new Ethernet device 
(/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/4)



Note at :55 udev tries to rename the device. But there's NO udev rule to 
do so. So where's that from ??



grep -R external /etc/udev/rules.d/*
/etc/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules:# If your scanner is supported by 
some external backend (brother, epkowa,
/etc/udev/rules.d/S99-2000S1.rules:# If your scanner is supported by 
some external backend (brother, epko

Re: FC31 : won't activate interfaces - "strictly unmanaged"

2020-01-27 Thread sean darcy via networkmanager-list

On 1/26/20 3:16 AM, Thomas Haller via networkmanager-list wrote:

On Sat, 2020-01-25 at 14:34 -0500, sean darcy via networkmanager-list
wrote:

Fedora FC31. NetworkManager-1.20.10-1.fc31.x86_64
This a cross post with Fedora user.

On FC31 I can't persistently rename the interfaces, see:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1777893

I'll give up and use FC31 interface names : enp1s0 and enp0s20u3.

I've used nmtui to set up the interfaces. But NM won't activate them
because they are "strictly unmanaged" !!


Hi,


I think this is a bug.

NetworkManager is running in initrd. Thereby it already activates the
interface. Later, udev wants to rename the interface, but since it's
already up, it fails to do so.

The result is that udev doesn't indicate that the device is
initialized, which causes NM to wait for it (and thus it's unmanaged).

It seems there are several potential issues:

   - why does NetworkManager even run in initrd, if you didn't configure
it to do so?

   - if NM is running in initrd, should it wait for udev to rename the
device?

   - why does udev completely fail in this case?

   - maybe NM should after a timeout stop waiting for udev, to mitigate
this issue.


You could look at the logfile to verify that. Enable level=TRACE
logging, but most interesting are also the messages from initrd and
udev.


best,
Thomas



What does that mean and how do I fix it ?

Is there some other way to persistently activate the interface ?

/etc/network/interfaces does not exist.

sean

   cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-enp*
TYPE=Ethernet
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
BOOTPROTO=none
IPADDR=10.10.11.251
PREFIX=24
DNS1=10.10.11.251
DEFROUTE=no
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=no
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=enp0s20u3
UUID=bf8aa45c-31e4-403a-9c14-c1a59bf0f2b2
ONBOOT=yes
DEVICE=enp0s20u3

TYPE=Ethernet
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
DEFROUTE=yes
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=yes
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=enp1s0
UUID=a1b089e9-5a13-4df7-8f09-9f54ebc56cea
DEVICE=enp1s0
ONBOOT=yes



I put net.ifames=0 in the kernel command line. I removed the 
/etc/udev/rules/70-persistent-net.rules. I set up 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth[01].


On reboot, I had eth0 and eth1. eth1 was active. But eth0 was not 
active. When I used nmtui to activate eth0. I got the dreaded "strictly 
unmanaged" error.


Here's dmesg | grep eth0

:25 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: 
RTL8168gu/8111gu, 50:7b:9d:0b:8a:ab, XID 509, IRQ 44
:25 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: jumbo 
features [frames: 9200 bytes, tx checksumming: ko]
:27 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[484]:  
[1580149767.5593] manager: (eth0): new Ethernet device 
(/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/2)
:27 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[484]:  
[1580149767.5594] device (eth0): state change: unmanaged -> unavailable 
(reason 'managed', sys-iface-state: 'external')

:27 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: Link is Down
:30 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: Link is Up 
- 1Gbps/Full - flow control off
:30 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): 
eth0: link becomes ready
:30 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[484]:  
[1580149770.5499] device (eth0): carrier: link connected
:30 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[484]:  
[1580149770.5502] device (eth0): state change: unavailable -> 
disconnected (reason 'carrier-changed', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
:55 lenovo-gateway.riverside systemd-udevd[695]: eth0: Failed to rename 
network interface 2 from 'eth0' to 'external': Device or resource busy
:55 lenovo-gateway.riverside systemd-udevd[695]: eth0: Failed to process 
device, ignoring: Device or resource busy
Jan 27 13:30:33 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[975]:  
[1580149833.3056] device (eth0): carrier: link connected
Jan 27 13:30:33 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[975]:  
[1580149833.3059] manager: (eth0): new Ethernet device 
(/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/4)



Note at :55 udev tries to rename the device. But there's NO udev rule to 
do so. So where's that from ??



grep -R external /etc/udev/rules.d/*
/etc/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules:# If your scanner is supported by 
some external backend (brother, epkowa,
/etc/udev/rules.d/S99-2000S1.rules:# If your scanner is supported by 
some external backend (brother, epkowa,


It seems udev tries to rename the device, and fails because the 
"resource is busy", whatever that means. But then NetworkManager won't 
activate it.


I'm surprised this problem hasn't arisen with every multihomed machine, 
but there are no posts I&

Re: FC31 : won't activate interfaces - "strictly unmanaged"

2020-01-29 Thread sean darcy via networkmanager-list

On 1/27/20 3:38 PM, sean darcy via networkmanager-list wrote:

On 1/26/20 3:16 AM, Thomas Haller via networkmanager-list wrote:

On Sat, 2020-01-25 at 14:34 -0500, sean darcy via networkmanager-list
wrote:

Fedora FC31. NetworkManager-1.20.10-1.fc31.x86_64
This a cross post with Fedora user.

On FC31 I can't persistently rename the interfaces, see:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1777893

I'll give up and use FC31 interface names : enp1s0 and enp0s20u3.

I've used nmtui to set up the interfaces. But NM won't activate them
because they are "strictly unmanaged" !!


Hi,


I think this is a bug.

NetworkManager is running in initrd. Thereby it already activates the
interface. Later, udev wants to rename the interface, but since it's
already up, it fails to do so.

The result is that udev doesn't indicate that the device is
initialized, which causes NM to wait for it (and thus it's unmanaged).

It seems there are several potential issues:

   - why does NetworkManager even run in initrd, if you didn't configure
it to do so?

   - if NM is running in initrd, should it wait for udev to rename the
device?

   - why does udev completely fail in this case?

   - maybe NM should after a timeout stop waiting for udev, to mitigate
this issue.


You could look at the logfile to verify that. Enable level=TRACE
logging, but most interesting are also the messages from initrd and
udev.


best,
Thomas



What does that mean and how do I fix it ?

Is there some other way to persistently activate the interface ?

/etc/network/interfaces does not exist.

sean

   cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-enp*
TYPE=Ethernet
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
BOOTPROTO=none
IPADDR=10.10.11.251
PREFIX=24
DNS1=10.10.11.251
DEFROUTE=no
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=no
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=enp0s20u3
UUID=bf8aa45c-31e4-403a-9c14-c1a59bf0f2b2
ONBOOT=yes
DEVICE=enp0s20u3

TYPE=Ethernet
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
DEFROUTE=yes
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=yes
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=enp1s0
UUID=a1b089e9-5a13-4df7-8f09-9f54ebc56cea
DEVICE=enp1s0
ONBOOT=yes



I put net.ifames=0 in the kernel command line. I removed the 
/etc/udev/rules/70-persistent-net.rules. I set up 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth[01].


On reboot, I had eth0 and eth1. eth1 was active. But eth0 was not 
active. When I used nmtui to activate eth0. I got the dreaded "strictly 
unmanaged" error.


Here's dmesg | grep eth0

:25 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: 
RTL8168gu/8111gu, 50:7b:9d:0b:8a:ab, XID 509, IRQ 44
:25 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: jumbo 
features [frames: 9200 bytes, tx checksumming: ko]
:27 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[484]:  
[1580149767.5593] manager: (eth0): new Ethernet device 
(/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/2)
:27 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[484]:  
[1580149767.5594] device (eth0): state change: unmanaged -> unavailable 
(reason 'managed', sys-iface-state: 'external')

:27 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: Link is Down
:30 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: Link is Up 
- 1Gbps/Full - flow control off
:30 lenovo-gateway.riverside kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): 
eth0: link becomes ready
:30 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[484]:  
[1580149770.5499] device (eth0): carrier: link connected
:30 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[484]:  
[1580149770.5502] device (eth0): state change: unavailable -> 
disconnected (reason 'carrier-changed', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
:55 lenovo-gateway.riverside systemd-udevd[695]: eth0: Failed to rename 
network interface 2 from 'eth0' to 'external': Device or resource busy
:55 lenovo-gateway.riverside systemd-udevd[695]: eth0: Failed to process 
device, ignoring: Device or resource busy
Jan 27 13:30:33 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[975]:  
[1580149833.3056] device (eth0): carrier: link connected
Jan 27 13:30:33 lenovo-gateway.riverside NetworkManager[975]:  
[1580149833.3059] manager: (eth0): new Ethernet device 
(/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/4)



Note at :55 udev tries to rename the device. But there's NO udev rule to 
do so. So where's that from ??



grep -R external /etc/udev/rules.d/*
/etc/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules:# If your scanner is supported by 
some external backend (brother, epkowa,
/etc/udev/rules.d/S99-2000S1.rules:# If your scanner is supported by 
some external backend (brother, epkowa,


It seems udev tries to rename the device, and fails because the 
"resource is busy", whatever that means. But then NetworkManager won't 
activate it.


I'm surprised this problem hasn&#x