[nlug] Job Billboard
Figured this was a good place to point out how far Linux has come in Nashville. Saw a billboard on I40/I24 west bound just after Fesslers and before Hermitage Ave. It was for Linux jobs at hostgator.com www.hostgator.com/jobs BTW, I have no knowledge of them other than seeing the billboard. No idea of the quality. -- Steven Critchfield cri...@basesys.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Job Billboard
They're hiring everywhere.. No office in Nashville but Austin and Houston.. I know a few people over there if anybody's interested.. On Jan 28, 2011 8:05 AM, Steven S. Critchfield cri...@basesys.com wrote: Figured this was a good place to point out how far Linux has come in Nashville. Saw a billboard on I40/I24 west bound just after Fesslers and before Hermitage Ave. It was for Linux jobs at hostgator.com www.hostgator.com/jobs BTW, I have no knowledge of them other than seeing the billboard. No idea of the quality. -- Steven Critchfield cri...@basesys.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
[nlug] RDP the wrong direction question :)
Have a customer that keeps getting malware and rootkits on their Windows computers. What? You've heard that before? Oh, sorry. Here's a hint. Don't install WhiteSmoke Translator. I know that a couple of folks on this list have worked with NX / FreeNX. Is there a remote client to connect to a linux server from a Windows client so that a user may surf the web on linux from a Windows desktop. Don't even think VNC. Waay too slow. Howard White -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] RDP the wrong direction question :)
Remote access seems like maybe the wrong direction. Specifically, remote access will remove things like audio from the mix. Have you thought of installing vmware player(or whatever it's current name is) and a image containing a linux distro? Eliminates the network, yet still uses local hardware for sound and video. Shouldn't be too hard to set up, and free. - Original Message - Have a customer that keeps getting malware and rootkits on their Windows computers. What? You've heard that before? Oh, sorry. Here's a hint. Don't install WhiteSmoke Translator. I know that a couple of folks on this list have worked with NX / FreeNX. Is there a remote client to connect to a linux server from a Windows client so that a user may surf the web on linux from a Windows desktop. Don't even think VNC. Waay too slow. Howard White -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- Steven Critchfield cri...@basesys.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] RDP the wrong direction question :)
Another option is to run windows in a VM that has been set to rollback all changes on logout and let them surf there. Yes, another windows license, but if they won't do Linux it is an option. Andy On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Steven S. Critchfield cri...@basesys.comwrote: Remote access seems like maybe the wrong direction. Specifically, remote access will remove things like audio from the mix. Have you thought of installing vmware player(or whatever it's current name is) and a image containing a linux distro? Eliminates the network, yet still uses local hardware for sound and video. Shouldn't be too hard to set up, and free. - Original Message - Have a customer that keeps getting malware and rootkits on their Windows computers. What? You've heard that before? Oh, sorry. Here's a hint. Don't install WhiteSmoke Translator. I know that a couple of folks on this list have worked with NX / FreeNX. Is there a remote client to connect to a linux server from a Windows client so that a user may surf the web on linux from a Windows desktop. Don't even think VNC. Waay too slow. Howard White -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comFor more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- Steven Critchfield cri...@basesys.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] RDP the wrong direction question :)
On 01/28/2011 10:36 AM, Steven S. Critchfield wrote: Remote access seems like maybe the wrong direction. Specifically, remote access will remove things like audio from the mix. Have you thought of installing vmware player(or whatever it's current name is) and a image containing a linux distro? Eliminates the network, yet still uses local hardware for sound and video. Shouldn't be too hard to set up, and free. Wasn't clear enough on the front end here, sorry. Customer has all manner of line of business software that is Windows only. Desktop computers need to be Windows. Don't _have_ to surf the web on Windows. Was thinking they _could_ remote into a linux box to surf; less prone to malware. Don't want to dual boot, reboot, liveCD boot; all good options for the technically advanced but not here. Haven't tried a virtual linux under the covers of Windows. Trying to keep the desktop systems as they are and move the risk to other boxes. Keep It Sorta Simple ;) Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] RDP the wrong direction question :)
the linux VM running under windows is a good option. It requires only the addition of a single piece of software on the Windows install and a few GB of disk space for the VM image itself. No dual boot required, no live CD, etc. Andy On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Howard White how...@usit.net wrote: On 01/28/2011 10:36 AM, Steven S. Critchfield wrote: Remote access seems like maybe the wrong direction. Specifically, remote access will remove things like audio from the mix. Have you thought of installing vmware player(or whatever it's current name is) and a image containing a linux distro? Eliminates the network, yet still uses local hardware for sound and video. Shouldn't be too hard to set up, and free. Wasn't clear enough on the front end here, sorry. Customer has all manner of line of business software that is Windows only. Desktop computers need to be Windows. Don't _have_ to surf the web on Windows. Was thinking they _could_ remote into a linux box to surf; less prone to malware. Don't want to dual boot, reboot, liveCD boot; all good options for the technically advanced but not here. Haven't tried a virtual linux under the covers of Windows. Trying to keep the desktop systems as they are and move the risk to other boxes. Keep It Sorta Simple ;) Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] RDP the wrong direction question :)
Training is even more important now that things like a normal Java update will, by default, install a toolbar in your browser. Just gotta love it. Andy On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Kevin Wurm kwu...@comcast.net wrote: There are a few things I would do. First, I would start on a clean system and update everything. Second, ensure everyone is running current anti-virus. I know Linux user don't really need it but it's a necessary for Windows. A long with anti-virus, I would install Spybot as a malware protector. Third, I would give them Firefox to surf with. Forth, I would not give them admin access to the system. If admin access is something you can't avoid my final point is very very important. My last point would be the matter of training the user. I would train them on smart web browsing. Something in their surfing is infecting them (unless they caught a root kit the first time). They will also need training on how to use Spybot and not to allow everything to run from sites. Training and doing the right things is very important when it comes to Windows. Kevin Wurm On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Andrew Farnsworth farn...@gmail.com wrote: the linux VM running under windows is a good option. It requires only the addition of a single piece of software on the Windows install and a few GB of disk space for the VM image itself. No dual boot required, no live CD, etc. Andy On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Howard White how...@usit.net wrote: On 01/28/2011 10:36 AM, Steven S. Critchfield wrote: Remote access seems like maybe the wrong direction. Specifically, remote access will remove things like audio from the mix. Have you thought of installing vmware player(or whatever it's current name is) and a image containing a linux distro? Eliminates the network, yet still uses local hardware for sound and video. Shouldn't be too hard to set up, and free. Wasn't clear enough on the front end here, sorry. Customer has all manner of line of business software that is Windows only. Desktop computers need to be Windows. Don't _have_ to surf the web on Windows. Was thinking they _could_ remote into a linux box to surf; less prone to malware. Don't want to dual boot, reboot, liveCD boot; all good options for the technically advanced but not here. Haven't tried a virtual linux under the covers of Windows. Trying to keep the desktop systems as they are and move the risk to other boxes. Keep It Sorta Simple ;) Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] RDP the wrong direction question :)
We used to have this problem regularly and have minimized it to a very small number of incidents per year (out of dozens of Windows boxes) by making the following changes. First, we use Untangle (free) as a transparent filter between our network and the Internet and have the following free Untangle modules installed: Spam Blocker, Phish Blocker, Spyware Blocker, Web Filter (we block p0rn), Virus Blocker, Protocol Control (we block P2P), and Ad Blocker. I think Untangle is responsible for 90% of our success. Second, we install Microsoft Security Essentials on every Windows PC. It is free, works well, updates itself, runs weekly scans and auto-cleans, doesn't slow down the system, and doesn't pop up warnings that freak out the users. Third (on some systems) we install Firefox and the Adblock Plus plugin and encourage people to use Firefox as their default browser. Some people still use IE and some people (like me) have moved on to using Google Chrome. You could try Sandboxie. I don't have first-hand experience with it, but I've heard a lot of good things about it. You can use it to sandbox certain applications so they can't make any permanent changes to the actual system. Basically, every time you close the browser, you flush the sandbox and any spyware (or even cookies) that tried to install themselves to the system get flushed. Chris On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Howard White how...@usit.net wrote: Have a customer that keeps getting malware and rootkits on their Windows computers. What? You've heard that before? Oh, sorry. Here's a hint. Don't install WhiteSmoke Translator. I know that a couple of folks on this list have worked with NX / FreeNX. Is there a remote client to connect to a linux server from a Windows client so that a user may surf the web on linux from a Windows desktop. Don't even think VNC. Waay too slow. Howard White -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] RDP the wrong direction question :)
I would be careful about using Microsoft Security Essentials if you have more than 10 computers or VMs. Micro$oft's license for business use of MSE states that you can only use it on up to 10 computers for free. After that they insist that larger businesses use Forefront. http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/eula.aspx Microsoft can be pretty protective of their perceived profit losses... On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Chris McQuistion cmcquist...@watkins.eduwrote: We used to have this problem regularly and have minimized it to a very small number of incidents per year (out of dozens of Windows boxes) by making the following changes. First, we use Untangle (free) as a transparent filter between our network and the Internet and have the following free Untangle modules installed: Spam Blocker, Phish Blocker, Spyware Blocker, Web Filter (we block p0rn), Virus Blocker, Protocol Control (we block P2P), and Ad Blocker. I think Untangle is responsible for 90% of our success. Second, we install Microsoft Security Essentials on every Windows PC. It is free, works well, updates itself, runs weekly scans and auto-cleans, doesn't slow down the system, and doesn't pop up warnings that freak out the users. Third (on some systems) we install Firefox and the Adblock Plus plugin and encourage people to use Firefox as their default browser. Some people still use IE and some people (like me) have moved on to using Google Chrome. You could try Sandboxie. I don't have first-hand experience with it, but I've heard a lot of good things about it. You can use it to sandbox certain applications so they can't make any permanent changes to the actual system. Basically, every time you close the browser, you flush the sandbox and any spyware (or even cookies) that tried to install themselves to the system get flushed. Chris On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Howard White how...@usit.net wrote: Have a customer that keeps getting malware and rootkits on their Windows computers. What? You've heard that before? Oh, sorry. Here's a hint. Don't install WhiteSmoke Translator. I know that a couple of folks on this list have worked with NX / FreeNX. Is there a remote client to connect to a linux server from a Windows client so that a user may surf the web on linux from a Windows desktop. Don't even think VNC. Waay too slow. Howard White -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] RDP the wrong direction question :)
Actually, now that Oracle took over Java, as of the recently updated installer for version 6 update 23, they do not install toolbars or other software. Finally they stopped this. At least for now. Kevin Eldridge -Original Message- From: Andrew Farnsworth farn...@gmail.com Sender: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:38:14 To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [nlug] RDP the wrong direction question :) Training is even more important now that things like a normal Java update will, by default, install a toolbar in your browser. Just gotta love it. Andy On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Kevin Wurm kwu...@comcast.net wrote: There are a few things I would do. First, I would start on a clean system and update everything. Second, ensure everyone is running current anti-virus. I know Linux user don't really need it but it's a necessary for Windows. A long with anti-virus, I would install Spybot as a malware protector. Third, I would give them Firefox to surf with. Forth, I would not give them admin access to the system. If admin access is something you can't avoid my final point is very very important. My last point would be the matter of training the user. I would train them on smart web browsing. Something in their surfing is infecting them (unless they caught a root kit the first time). They will also need training on how to use Spybot and not to allow everything to run from sites. Training and doing the right things is very important when it comes to Windows. Kevin Wurm On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Andrew Farnsworth farn...@gmail.com wrote: the linux VM running under windows is a good option. It requires only the addition of a single piece of software on the Windows install and a few GB of disk space for the VM image itself. No dual boot required, no live CD, etc. Andy On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Howard White how...@usit.net wrote: On 01/28/2011 10:36 AM, Steven S. Critchfield wrote: Remote access seems like maybe the wrong direction. Specifically, remote access will remove things like audio from the mix. Have you thought of installing vmware player(or whatever it's current name is) and a image containing a linux distro? Eliminates the network, yet still uses local hardware for sound and video. Shouldn't be too hard to set up, and free. Wasn't clear enough on the front end here, sorry. Customer has all manner of line of business software that is Windows only. Desktop computers need to be Windows. Don't _have_ to surf the web on Windows. Was thinking they _could_ remote into a linux box to surf; less prone to malware. Don't want to dual boot, reboot, liveCD boot; all good options for the technically advanced but not here. Haven't tried a virtual linux under the covers of Windows. Trying to keep the desktop systems as they are and move the risk to other boxes. Keep It Sorta Simple ;) Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] RDP the wrong direction question :)
Yeah I use NX for purposes like that - install NoMachine NX, and on the client set the session to Custom mode instead of KDE or GNOME, and set the command to spawn firefox. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:47, Howard White how...@usit.net wrote: Have a customer that keeps getting malware and rootkits on their Windows computers. What? You've heard that before? Oh, sorry. Here's a hint. Don't install WhiteSmoke Translator. I know that a couple of folks on this list have worked with NX / FreeNX. Is there a remote client to connect to a linux server from a Windows client so that a user may surf the web on linux from a Windows desktop. Don't even think VNC. Waay too slow. Howard White -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Sterling, Virginia USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
