[nlug] Re: Flyer for LinuxFest
I am going to go to Kinko's this Saturday and make several color copies to have them posted around town and in businesses over this weekend. If anyone wants some color copies I can give you some if you want. Just let me know. Kevin Eldridge (615) 830-4541 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Jim Peterson jim.sokytec...@gmail.comwrote: Posted on the corkboard in the entryway! Of course, I won't be able to attend, though I'll be in Nashville that day to fly out to Portland for LinuxCon [image: ;)] Jim On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 08:46 -0700, Curt Lundgren wrote: The flyer for the September LinuxFest at Watkins College is available: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.pdf (150k) If the PDF doesn't work for you, here's a JPEG version: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.jpg (900k) Curt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: stock_smiley-3.png
[nlug] Re: Flyer for LinuxFest
Hey Good morning Gang, Cool little Pengy post we have there for the next installfest. I happened to be at the last one and as far as the newcomers coming in it was totally free for them. They didn't have to lift a finger and quite a few wonderful people did a lot of stuf behind the scenes and doing setup/tear down that defintely wasn't free. But I know was heart felt and passionate. So in that sense it was free. I know when I first started with Linux about 6 years ago, being able to get a whole OS for no cost was important to me because I didn't have much money. I learned the philosophy of freedom a little later down the line. One of the things that really struck home with me was The Rise of the Linux Revolution I think it is called. That movie, which can still be found on the web and if not I have a copy, really helped me understanding the underlying concepts. A short one liner is not going to mean anything really to the normal newb who probably doesn't even know how to re-install Windows or what a partition is on a hard drive KISS would be well applied to the whole event. It's not 911 and not brain surgery. It's a group of people who are passionate about how to get pieces of plastic, metal and glass working together. Gregory On Aug 30, 11:16 am, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 30 2009, Curt Lundgren wrote: The flyer for the September LinuxFest at Watkins College is available: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.pdf(150k) If the PDF doesn't work for you, here's a JPEG version: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.jpg(900k) The flyer implies that the free in Linux applies to cost, and not freedom. In other words, free as in beer, not as in speech. I think that is somewhat misleading. manoj -- Cache: A very expensive part of the memory system of a computer that no one is supposed to know is there. Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[nlug] Re: Flyer for LinuxFest
On Sun, Aug 30 2009, Curt Lundgren wrote: The flyer for the September LinuxFest at Watkins College is available: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.pdf (150k) If the PDF doesn't work for you, here's a JPEG version: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.jpg (900k) The flyer implies that the free in Linux applies to cost, and not freedom. In other words, free as in beer, not as in speech. I think that is somewhat misleading. manoj -- Cache: A very expensive part of the memory system of a computer that no one is supposed to know is there. Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[nlug] Re: Flyer for LinuxFest
Get them in, then we can help them learn the details. We are not obfuscating the rights and privileges, but the learning curve can be overwhelming in so many ways if we hit newbies with everything at once. ... Jack On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.orgwrote: On Sun, Aug 30 2009, Curt Lundgren wrote: The flyer for the September LinuxFest at Watkins College is available: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.pdf (150k) If the PDF doesn't work for you, here's a JPEG version: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.jpg (900k) The flyer implies that the free in Linux applies to cost, and not freedom. In other words, free as in beer, not as in speech. I think that is somewhat misleading. manoj -- Cache: A very expensive part of the memory system of a computer that no one is supposed to know is there. Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[nlug] Re: Flyer for LinuxFest
I would concur with Jack. The free as in speech aspect of the GPL is somewhere between confusing and irrelevant for most newbies. (and a good many experienced users) Not that free as in speech is not important, but it's not something new users need to know immediately. -Original Message- From: Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org Sent: Aug 30, 2009 11:16 AM To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [nlug] Re: Flyer for LinuxFest On Sun, Aug 30 2009, Curt Lundgren wrote: The flyer for the September LinuxFest at Watkins College is available: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.pdf (150k) If the PDF doesn't work for you, here's a JPEG version: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.jpg (900k) The flyer implies that the free in Linux applies to cost, and not freedom. In other words, free as in beer, not as in speech. I think that is somewhat misleading. manoj -- Cache: A very expensive part of the memory system of a computer that no one is supposed to know is there. Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[nlug] Re: Flyer for LinuxFest
The new flyer looks great! Thanks! Chris On Aug 30, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Curt Lundgren verif...@gmail.com wrote: The flyer for the September LinuxFest at Watkins College is available: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.pdf (150k) If the PDF doesn't work for you, here's a JPEG version: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.jpg (900k) Curt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[nlug] Re: Flyer for LinuxFest
Do what you want. ... Personally I think this is over thinking a simple issue. ... Jack On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.orgwrote: Hi, All this top posting makes it really hard to properly have a chronological conversation. On Sun, Aug 30 2009, Doug Smith wrote: On Sun, Aug 30 2009, Jack wrote: On Sun, Aug 30 2009, Curt Lundgren wrote: The flyer for the September LinuxFest at Watkins College is available: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.pdf (150k) If the PDF doesn't work for you, here's a JPEG version: http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.jpg (900k) The flyer implies that the free in Linux applies to cost, and not freedom. In other words, free as in beer, not as in speech. I think that is somewhat misleading. Get them in, then we can help them learn the details. We are not Not if they are pulled in on the wrong premise; then they only get disgusted with a bait and switch. obfuscating the rights and privileges, but the learning curve can be overwhelming in so many ways if we hit newbies with everything at once. If you pull in people who only are thinking about the cost, you are not pulling in the right kind of people. Self selection on cost, and not on freedom, prevents the kind of people who are critical to free software from getting in. There is some truth to the adage that what you get for free (as in beer) is not worth much -- if the only context considered id price. Free software is a movement, a community, and a cause -- all based on freedom, not on low price. I would concur with Jack. The free as in speech aspect of the GPL is somewhere between confusing and irrelevant for most newbies. (and a good many experienced users) Not that free as in speech is not important, but it's not something new users need to know immediately. I beg to differ. It is the only really important part about free software and Linux; otherwise, I see no advantage compared to, say, MAC OSX. The free as in beer part is something that they can be told at a later date. As a free software person, an even promoting freedom is of some interest. An event promoting cheap stuff is something to avoid, personally speaking. manoj -- A student who changes the course of history is probably taking an exam. Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[nlug] Re: Flyer for LinuxFest
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Jackj...@coats.org wrote: Do what you want. ... Personally I think this is over thinking a simple issue. I think it's more important for newcomers to know the software is free as in freedom before they learn it is also free as in beer. I'd add GNU in there somewhere too. Linux is much more than just a kernel. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
