Re: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus
Even I, a person with pretty much no entreprenurial sense whatsoever, knew that the $25 membership was a bad long-term business move. Sadly, those new to the Prince way of thinking probably believed that lifetime meant THEIR lifetime, not the lifetime of his attentian span. I do think if he offered more than just concert tickets, overpriced merchandise and token bits and pieces of music and video hardcore fans could have kept the site alive and profitable for him. Oh well. I will definately miss the access to tickets, but I am hopeful at least that will come back. And maybe if he charges a reasonable yearly fee all of us tried and true fans will still have that access without the clutter of those who arrived during Musicology and went just as fast. I also have to say, this is so Prince: Win awards and recognition, then, in essence, say Yawn, what's next? Rob -- Original message -- From: NuPwrSoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a business perspective that $25 lifetime membership was a horrible financial model from the very start--in order for the club to make money it depended on a constant addition of NEW members, while the existing members probably wore out their profitability in terms of bandwidth, etc. after the first year. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus
Basically he can offer space for advertisements to offset the cost of some things while providing a more substantial content to keep people coming back in. and maybe a monthly fee like 9.99 a month for membership. And for gods sake offer some of the music he has in his vault that hasn't been released at all for downloads. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:06 AM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus Even I, a person with pretty much no entreprenurial sense whatsoever, knew that the $25 membership was a bad long-term business move. Sadly, those new to the Prince way of thinking probably believed that lifetime meant THEIR lifetime, not the lifetime of his attentian span. I do think if he offered more than just concert tickets, overpriced merchandise and token bits and pieces of music and video hardcore fans could have kept the site alive and profitable for him. Oh well. I will definately miss the access to tickets, but I am hopeful at least that will come back. And maybe if he charges a reasonable yearly fee all of us tried and true fans will still have that access without the clutter of those who arrived during Musicology and went just as fast. I also have to say, this is so Prince: Win awards and recognition, then, in essence, say Yawn, what's next? Rob -- Original message -- From: NuPwrSoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a business perspective that $25 lifetime membership was a horrible financial model from the very start--in order for the club to make money it depended on a constant addition of NEW members, while the existing members probably wore out their profitability in terms of bandwidth, etc. after the first year. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus
I'm with ya on this one. 2004 was a slammin' year with all the hype attached. But, this is a good way to weed out the ones who were just there for the joy ride. Even when the club was $100 a year, you knew only the hardcore fans would be crazy enough to join and keep the club alive. Sometimes you just need to clean house and start over. However when Prince cleans house, he REALLY CLEANS, even if he is throwing out the good with the bad. Not like we haven't been here before and we won't go there again. And Again, And Again... But it's Prince, so you either go along for the ride or get off the bus. Through it all, I'll take the ride. Peace and wonderful observation. Robin aka CherryMoon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:06 AM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus Even I, a person with pretty much no entreprenurial sense whatsoever, knew that the $25 membership was a bad long-term business move. Sadly, those new to the Prince way of thinking probably believed that lifetime meant THEIR lifetime, not the lifetime of his attentian span. I do think if he offered more than just concert tickets, overpriced merchandise and token bits and pieces of music and video hardcore fans could have kept the site alive and profitable for him. Oh well. I will definately miss the access to tickets, but I am hopeful at least that will come back. And maybe if he charges a reasonable yearly fee all of us tried and true fans will still have that access without the clutter of those who arrived during Musicology and went just as fast. I also have to say, this is so Prince: Win awards and recognition, then, in essence, say Yawn, what's next? Rob -- Original message -- From: NuPwrSoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a business perspective that $25 lifetime membership was a horrible financial model from the very start--in order for the club to make money it depended on a constant addition of NEW members, while the existing members probably wore out their profitability in terms of bandwidth, etc. after the first year. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus
HaHaHa.. That was perfectly put.. Lifetime of his ATTENTION SPAN!! HeeHee :) enjoy Moderator: Yeah I got a good Chuckle out of that when I read that... -Derek - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: Re: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus Even I, a person with pretty much no entreprenurial sense whatsoever, knew that the $25 membership was a bad long-term business move. Sadly, those new to the Prince way of thinking probably believed that lifetime meant THEIR lifetime, not the lifetime of his attentian span. I do think if he offered more than just concert tickets, overpriced merchandise and token bits and pieces of music and video hardcore fans could have kept the site alive and profitable for him. Oh well. I will definately miss the access to tickets, but I am hopeful at least that will come back. And maybe if he charges a reasonable yearly fee all of us tried and true fans will still have that access without the clutter of those who arrived during Musicology and went just as fast. I also have to say, this is so Prince: Win awards and recognition, then, in essence, say Yawn, what's next? Rob -- Original message -- From: NuPwrSoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a business perspective that $25 lifetime membership was a horrible financial model from the very start--in order for the club to make money it depended on a constant addition of NEW members, while the existing members probably wore out their profitability in terms of bandwidth, etc. after the first year. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: Psalm 31:21 (BET Awards)
Thank u so much 4 sharing this. I never got a chance 2 read rainbowchild7's post. I was 2 busy saying Prince should go home 2 Minnesota. Very selfish of me but I couldn't help it. I was just so tired of the whole hollywood thing that I sorta 4got about the big picture. ~B. On 7/3/06, Amil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didnt see anything about this here - but on the NPGMC forums, rainbowchild7 posted this interesting observation: -- Posted: 01 Jul 2006 22:11Post subject: 3121 Mystery Solved! Reply with quote 3121 Mystery Solved! B4 Prince rips in2 that trippedoutfunkedup version of 3121 on the BET Awards, he says: Where's the real party at? Shake ur tambourine! BET! Read Psalms, that's where it is. PSALM 31:21 Blessed be Jehovah, For he has rendered wonderful loving-kindness to me in a city under stress. So, eye guess the post eye made on that 3121 meaning ? thread back in November 2005 was right after all! -- - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus
I for one have dedicated too much time, and money to just say to hell with it when stuff like this happens. The hardcore fans will be there through the good and the bad decisions Prince makes in his career. The $25 dollar lifetime thing was destined to crash burn from a business perspective. Hopefully when the new site opens, it'll go back to the $100 membership times when dowloads were aplenty AND we received first dibs at concert tickets and other misc perks. I missed out when the celly's went down, was too young for the Exodus and Emancipation era and have yet to go to a real afterparty (Club Whack don't count). Been a fan since I was 7 and don't intend on stopping now. I'll see you at 3121club.com Dar Moderator: I really hope that its not 3121club or whatever variant because 3121 sucks and the concept sucks -Derek From: Turner, Robin T C-E LCMC LRC LEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: npny@lists.panix.com To: 'npny@lists.panix.com' npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 12:51:04 -0400 I'm with ya on this one. 2004 was a slammin' year with all the hype attached. But, this is a good way to weed out the ones who were just there for the joy ride. Even when the club was $100 a year, you knew only the hardcore fans would be crazy enough to join and keep the club alive. Sometimes you just need to clean house and start over. However when Prince cleans house, he REALLY CLEANS, even if he is throwing out the good with the bad. Not like we haven't been here before and we won't go there again. And Again, And Again... But it's Prince, so you either go along for the ride or get off the bus. Through it all, I'll take the ride. Peace and wonderful observation. Robin aka CherryMoon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:06 AM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus Even I, a person with pretty much no entreprenurial sense whatsoever, knew that the $25 membership was a bad long-term business move. Sadly, those new to the Prince way of thinking probably believed that lifetime meant THEIR lifetime, not the lifetime of his attentian span. I do think if he offered more than just concert tickets, overpriced merchandise and token bits and pieces of music and video hardcore fans could have kept the site alive and profitable for him. Oh well. I will definately miss the access to tickets, but I am hopeful at least that will come back. And maybe if he charges a reasonable yearly fee all of us tried and true fans will still have that access without the clutter of those who arrived during Musicology and went just as fast. I also have to say, this is so Prince: Win awards and recognition, then, in essence, say Yawn, what's next? Rob -- Original message -- From: NuPwrSoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a business perspective that $25 lifetime membership was a horrible financial model from the very start--in order for the club to make money it depended on a constant addition of NEW members, while the existing members probably wore out their profitability in terms of bandwidth, etc. after the first year. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus
Bad business move? Wasn't he the earn the most that year for his Musicology tour? $93,000,000 I believe. Modereator: It was quoted as 87.4 million. He made that the club didn't make that. It doesn't look like he put any of that money back into club either. -Derek -Original Message- From: Oliver, Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Sent: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 12:34:47 -0400 Subject: RE: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus Basically he can offer space for advertisements to offset the cost of some things while providing a more substantial content to keep people coming back in. and maybe a monthly fee like 9.99 a month for membership. And for gods sake offer some of the music he has in his vault that hasn't been released at all for downloads. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:06 AM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus Even I, a person with pretty much no entreprenurial sense whatsoever, knew that the $25 membership was a bad long-term business move. Sadly, those new to the Prince way of thinking probably believed that lifetime meant THEIR lifetime, not the lifetime of his attentian span. I do think if he offered more than just concert tickets, overpriced merchandise and token bits and pieces of music and video hardcore fans could have kept the site alive and profitable for him. Oh well. I will definately miss the access to tickets, but I am hopeful at least that will come back. And maybe if he charges a reasonable yearly fee all of us tried and true fans will still have that access without the clutter of those who arrived during Musicology and went just as fast. I also have to say, this is so Prince: Win awards and recognition, then, in essence, say Yawn, what's next? Rob -- Original message -- From: NuPwrSoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a business perspective that $25 lifetime membership was a horrible financial model from the very start--in order for the club to make money it depended on a constant addition of NEW members, while the existing members probably wore out their profitability in terms of bandwidth, etc. after the first year. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus
[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com,[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - arrow.flexihostings.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.panix.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - globalsoulmedia.com Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Reply-To: npny@lists.panix.com I don't know about the rest of you, but I liked Minneapolis Prince a lot better than I like LA Prince. Daryle Moderator: I think we all do -Derek On Jul 5, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Ginna wrote: HaHaHa.. That was perfectly put.. Lifetime of his ATTENTION SPAN!! HeeHee :) enjoy Moderator: Yeah I got a good Chuckle out of that when I read that... -Derek - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: Re: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus Even I, a person with pretty much no entreprenurial sense whatsoever, knew that the $25 membership was a bad long-term business move. Sadly, those new to the Prince way of thinking probably believed that lifetime meant THEIR lifetime, not the lifetime of his attentian span. I do think if he offered more than just concert tickets, overpriced merchandise and token bits and pieces of music and video hardcore fans could have kept the site alive and profitable for him. Oh well. I will definately miss the access to tickets, but I am hopeful at least that will come back. And maybe if he charges a reasonable yearly fee all of us tried and true fans will still have that access without the clutter of those who arrived during Musicology and went just as fast. I also have to say, this is so Prince: Win awards and recognition, then, in essence, say Yawn, what's next? Rob -- Original message -- From: NuPwrSoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a business perspective that $25 lifetime membership was a horrible financial model from the very start--in order for the club to make money it depended on a constant addition of NEW members, while the existing members probably wore out their profitability in terms of bandwidth, etc. after the first year. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus
To get around the lifetime thing, he will probably have to change the name, but 3121 doesn't seem to have the longevity as Prince's other imagined communities like Paisley Park or NPG. Hell, he hasn't even seemed interested in promoting 3121 as an album, much less a website. Then again, didn't the CD say 3121: The Music suggesting that there were other formats for 3121? Moderator: well if you remember a DVD was in the works. If it even sees the light of day that is whole other things. -Derek Moderator: I really hope that its not 3121club or whatever variant because 3121 sucks and the concept sucks -Derek From: Turner, Robin T C-E LCMC LRC LEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: npny@lists.panix.com To: 'npny@lists.panix.com' npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 12:51:04 -0400 I'm with ya on this one. 2004 was a slammin' year with all the hype attached. But, this is a good way to weed out the ones who were just there for the joy ride. Even when the club was $100 a year, you knew only the hardcore fans would be crazy enough to join and keep the club alive. Sometimes you just need to clean house and start over. However when Prince cleans house, he REALLY CLEANS, even if he is throwing out the good with the bad. Not like we haven't been here before and we won't go there again. And Again, And Again... But it's Prince, so you either go along for the ride or get off the bus. Through it all, I'll take the ride. Peace and wonderful observation. Robin aka CherryMoon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:06 AM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: Happy 4th? - Re: Music Club Hiatus Even I, a person with pretty much no entreprenurial sense whatsoever, knew that the $25 membership was a bad long-term business move. Sadly, those new to the Prince way of thinking probably believed that lifetime meant THEIR lifetime, not the lifetime of his attentian span. I do think if he offered more than just concert tickets, overpriced merchandise and token bits and pieces of music and video hardcore fans could have kept the site alive and profitable for him. Oh well. I will definately miss the access to tickets, but I am hopeful at least that will come back. And maybe if he charges a reasonable yearly fee all of us tried and true fans will still have that access without the clutter of those who arrived during Musicology and went just as fast. I also have to say, this is so Prince: Win awards and recognition, then, in essence, say Yawn, what's next? Rob -- Original message -- From: NuPwrSoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a business perspective that $25 lifetime membership was a horrible financial model from the very start--in order for the club to make money it depended on a constant addition of NEW members, while the existing members probably wore out their profitability in terms of bandwidth, etc. after the first year. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
