[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
Anthony Robb said I've been reluctant to vote on this since our house is fighting back whilst we put in a new kitchen, downstairs loo and new wee studio. Anthony, I know older men can become obsessed with the toilet, but a wee studio? Dave To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
Perhaps it's a question of increased convenience. __ Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu im Auftrag von Dave Shaw Gesendet: Fr 29.07.2011 11:36 An: Dartmouth NPS; Anthony Robb Betreff: [NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug Anthony Robb said > I've been reluctant to vote on this since our house is fighting back > whilst we put in a new kitchen, downstairs loo and new wee studio. Anthony, I know older men can become obsessed with the toilet, but a wee studio? Dave To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
At least it's not a Wii studio! Alec In a message dated 7/29/2011 2:37:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, d...@daveshaw.co.uk writes: Anthony Robb said > I've been reluctant to vote on this since our house is fighting back > whilst we put in a new kitchen, downstairs loo and new wee studio. Anthony, I know older men can become obsessed with the toilet, but a wee studio? Dave To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
Oh Boys, you've started something now! Marianne. > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:55:56 -0400 > To: d...@daveshaw.co.uk; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu; anth...@robbpipes.com > From: cal...@aol.com > Subject: [NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug > > At least it's not a Wii studio! > > Alec > > > > In a message dated 7/29/2011 2:37:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > d...@daveshaw.co.uk writes: > > Anthony Robb said > > I've been reluctant to vote on this since our house is fighting > back > > whilst we put in a new kitchen, downstairs loo and new wee > studio. > Anthony, I know older men can become obsessed with the toilet, but a > wee > studio? > Dave > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > --
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
Hi Anthony, Would it be a possibility for you to play the 1697/8 Playford Mad Moll on your primitive set? If you could get a drone pair to G & C (assuming it's G setup) Mad moll is in Am and has no Fnats in it. I have attached a scan for you -- I know the NSP site will strip it off --- if anyone wants a copy let me know and I will check with Barry/Tim to get it on site somewhere best Dave S On 7/29/2011 11:16 AM, Anthony Robb wrote: > Hello all > I've been reluctant to vote on this since our house is fighting back > whilst we put in a new kitchen, downstairs loo and new wee studio. > There is building dust everywhere and my pipes, mics and other gear are > packed away for the duration. > Even though I can't contribute musically I would go for Peacock. > Perhaps most will be familiar with the snippet: > > Aal the neet ower and ower > And aal the neet ower agyen > Aal the net ower and ower > The peacock followed the hen > > The cock's a dainty dish > The hen's aal hollow within > There's nee deceit in a puddin' > An' pie's a dainty thing > > I also think of (but no idea why or where it comes from) > > Won't ye come cuddle me cuddy > Now won't ye come cuddle me reet > Won't you come cuddle me cuddy > Just as ye did yesterday neet > > That's about all I can offer on TOTM but I also thought some might be > interested to know that I have put my chanter where my mouth is so to > speak and had a very happy > off-the-cuff couple of days putting down 16 tracks (4 of them double > tracked) on my keyless pipes (The Primitives as maker Bill Hedworth > called them). I did it primarily as a teaching resource (even though > there are a few finger-busting favourites) but I've been persuaded to > go for a proper production of it. > Interested parties can go here to see what Stewart Hardy makes of it: > [1]www.robbpipes.com > Thanks for any interest > Anthony > > > > -- > > References > > 1. http://www.robbpipes.com/ > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3793 - Release Date: 07/28/11 > > --
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
Hello Dave
Thanks for the copy of Mad Moll.
It looks like a/the precursor of Peacock Followed The Hen to me but
Matt would know better.
As for modal A tunes on my Primitives, I sometimes move the sliding
parts so that the two smallest ends go on the drones below and the big
G end goes on little g. This gives me a pair of drones e & A but the
pipes don't sing as well like that, so although it's possible I rarely
do it. It can be fun though and I might give it a whirl sometime soon.
I'll keep you posted off list.
Cheers
Anthony
--- On Sun, 31/7/11, Dave S wrote:
From: Dave S
Subject: [NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
To: "Anthony Robb"
Cc: "Dartmouth NPS"
Date: Sunday, 31 July, 2011, 21:00
Hi Anthony,
Would it be a possibility for you to play the 1697/8 Playford Mad Moll
on your primitive set? If you could get a drone pair to G & C (assuming
it's G setup) Mad moll is in Am and has no Fnats in it.
I have attached a scan for you -- I know the NSP site will strip it off
--- if anyone wants a copy let me know and I will check with Barry/Tim
to get it on site somewhere
best
Dave S
On 7/29/2011 11:16 AM, Anthony Robb wrote:
> Hello all
> I've been reluctant to vote on this since our house is fighting
back
> whilst we put in a new kitchen, downstairs loo and new wee
studio.
> There is building dust everywhere and my pipes, mics and other
gear are
> packed away for the duration.
> Even though I can't contribute musically I would go for Peacock.
> Perhaps most will be familiar with the snippet:
>
> Aal the neet ower and ower
> And aal the neet ower agyen
> Aal the net ower and ower
> The peacock followed the hen
>
> The cock's a dainty dish
> The hen's aal hollow within
> There's nee deceit in a puddin'
> An' pie's a dainty thing
>
> I also think of (but no idea why or where it comes from)
>
> Won't ye come cuddle me cuddy
> Now won't ye come cuddle me reet
> Won't you come cuddle me cuddy
> Just as ye did yesterday neet
>
> That's about all I can offer on TOTM but I also thought some
might be
> interested to know that I have put my chanter where my mouth is
so to
> speak and had a very happy
> off-the-cuff couple of days putting down 16 tracks (4 of them
double
> tracked) on my keyless pipes (The Primitives as maker Bill
Hedworth
> called them). I did it primarily as a teaching resource (even
though
> there are a few finger-busting favourites) but I've been
persuaded to
> go for a proper production of it.
> Interested parties can go here to see what Stewart Hardy makes of
it:
> [1]www.robbpipes.com
> Thanks for any interest
> Anthony
>
>
>
> --
>
> References
>
> 1. [1]http://www.robbpipes.com/
>
>
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
>
> -
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3793 - Release Date:
07/28/11
>
>
--
--
References
1. http://www.robbpipes.com/
2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
Images can be posted on the NPS pipersforum. Please can contributors keep their image sizes as small as reasonable. In case of difficulty, e-mail me Barry Quoting Dave S : Hi Anthony, Would it be a possibility for you to play the 1697/8 Playford Mad Moll on your primitive set? If you could get a drone pair to G & C (assuming it's G setup) Mad moll is in Am and has no Fnats in it. I have attached a scan for you -- I know the NSP site will strip it off --- if anyone wants a copy let me know and I will check with Barry/Tim to get it on site somewhere best Dave S On 7/29/2011 11:16 AM, Anthony Robb wrote: Hello all I've been reluctant to vote on this since our house is fighting back whilst we put in a new kitchen, downstairs loo and new wee studio. There is building dust everywhere and my pipes, mics and other gear are packed away for the duration. Even though I can't contribute musically I would go for Peacock. Perhaps most will be familiar with the snippet: Aal the neet ower and ower And aal the neet ower agyen Aal the net ower and ower The peacock followed the hen The cock's a dainty dish The hen's aal hollow within There's nee deceit in a puddin' An' pie's a dainty thing I also think of (but no idea why or where it comes from) Won't ye come cuddle me cuddy Now won't ye come cuddle me reet Won't you come cuddle me cuddy Just as ye did yesterday neet That's about all I can offer on TOTM but I also thought some might be interested to know that I have put my chanter where my mouth is so to speak and had a very happy off-the-cuff couple of days putting down 16 tracks (4 of them double tracked) on my keyless pipes (The Primitives as maker Bill Hedworth called them). I did it primarily as a teaching resource (even though there are a few finger-busting favourites) but I've been persuaded to go for a proper production of it. Interested parties can go here to see what Stewart Hardy makes of it: [1]www.robbpipes.com Thanks for any interest Anthony -- References 1. http://www.robbpipes.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3793 - Release Date: 07/28/11 --
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
Matt has argued an octave pair of drones tuned Gg will work for The Peacock/Mad Moll and other harmonically similar tunes like Cuckold - you want to show up the contrast between the Am and Cmaj in the first and second strain respectively. That is what Peacock probably had to do with his version, as I think bead holes weren't invented yet. John From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] on behalf of Dave S [david...@pt.lu] Sent: 31 July 2011 21:00 To: Anthony Robb Cc: Dartmouth NPS Subject: [NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug Hi Anthony, Would it be a possibility for you to play the 1697/8 Playford Mad Moll on your primitive set? If you could get a drone pair to G & C (assuming it's G setup) Mad moll is in Am and has no Fnats in it. I have attached a scan for you -- I know the NSP site will strip it off --- if anyone wants a copy let me know and I will check with Barry/Tim to get it on site somewhere best Dave S On 7/29/2011 11:16 AM, Anthony Robb wrote: > Hello all > I've been reluctant to vote on this since our house is fighting back > whilst we put in a new kitchen, downstairs loo and new wee studio. > There is building dust everywhere and my pipes, mics and other gear are > packed away for the duration. > Even though I can't contribute musically I would go for Peacock. > Perhaps most will be familiar with the snippet: > > Aal the neet ower and ower > And aal the neet ower agyen > Aal the net ower and ower > The peacock followed the hen > > The cock's a dainty dish > The hen's aal hollow within > There's nee deceit in a puddin' > An' pie's a dainty thing > > I also think of (but no idea why or where it comes from) > > Won't ye come cuddle me cuddy > Now won't ye come cuddle me reet > Won't you come cuddle me cuddy > Just as ye did yesterday neet > > That's about all I can offer on TOTM but I also thought some might be > interested to know that I have put my chanter where my mouth is so to > speak and had a very happy > off-the-cuff couple of days putting down 16 tracks (4 of them double > tracked) on my keyless pipes (The Primitives as maker Bill Hedworth > called them). I did it primarily as a teaching resource (even though > there are a few finger-busting favourites) but I've been persuaded to > go for a proper production of it. > Interested parties can go here to see what Stewart Hardy makes of it: > [1]www.robbpipes.com > Thanks for any interest > Anthony > > > > -- > > References > > 1. http://www.robbpipes.com/ > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3793 - Release Date: 07/28/11 > > --
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Gibbons, John <[1]j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk> wrote: Matt has argued an octave pair of drones tuned Gg will work for The Peacock/Mad Moll and other harmonically similar tunes like Cuckold - you want to show up the contrast between the Am and Cmaj in the first and second strain respectively. That is what Peacock probably had to do with his version, as I think bead holes weren't invented yet. The reasoning behind this is that A minor over G drones sounds like A minor 'sitting' on top of G drones, while Cmaj over A drones sounds like A minor 7, so the contrast is lost. It's also the equivalent of what happens with Uilleann, Highland and Border pipes, where drones are a constant over which variety is played out, and different modal centres sound - different! From this standpoint, a movable drone is a contradiction. Obviously, it's not the only standpoint, but worth being aware of. -- References 1. mailto:j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
Hi all, After Dave Shaw piqued my curiosity I got round to playing with WSOTW and thought I would offer this - the ending is a bit of a fiddle, but whatever X:11 T:NPS Collection T:Whin Shields on the Wall C:John L. Dunk Q:1/4=100 M:2/4 L:1/16 K:G |d2 |:B2G2 G2B2 |A2D2 D2D2 |G2G2 GABc |d3B d2g2 |e2c2 c2e2 |d2G2 G2AB |c2E2 E2FG :| ABcd e2fg |decB ABGF |G3E G2B2 |e2B2 B2e2 |d3A d2e2 |a2e2 e2f2 |g3e g2f2 |e2d2 c2B2 |A2d2 d2fd :| A2d2 e2fg |a3g gfed |B2G2 GABG |A2D2 D2EF |G2G2 GABc |d6 g2 | e2c2 c2de |1 d2G2 G2AB |c2B2 A2G2 :|2 dedB GAGE |c2F Fd2G-||G3E G4 |] ciao Dave S To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
Hi Dave and others, It's a noble attempt and a kindness to Dunk. But I still think that it's impossible to make anything worthwhile out of that tune whilst remaining literally close to the original. Gilbert Askew and others associated with the compilation of the NPS Tunebook in 1937 treated it very freely, publishing it as Whinshields Hornpipe. Disapproving comments have been made here about what he did with the material, but nevertheless that tune is eagerly played wherever Northumbrian pipers assemble. Dunk's original Whin Shields remains more Off the Wall, than on it. Francis On 5 Aug 2011, at 20:18, Dave S wrote: > > Hi all, > After Dave Shaw piqued my curiosity I got round to playing with WSOTW and > thought I would offer this - the ending is a bit of a fiddle, but whatever > X:11 > T:NPS Collection > T:Whin Shields on the Wall > C:John L. Dunk > Q:1/4=100 > M:2/4 > L:1/16 > K:G > |d2 |:B2G2 G2B2 |A2D2 D2D2 |G2G2 GABc |d3B d2g2 |e2c2 c2e2 |d2G2 G2AB |c2E2 > E2FG :| > ABcd e2fg |decB ABGF |G3E G2B2 |e2B2 B2e2 |d3A d2e2 |a2e2 e2f2 |g3e g2f2 > |e2d2 c2B2 |A2d2 d2fd :| > A2d2 e2fg |a3g gfed |B2G2 GABG |A2D2 D2EF |G2G2 GABc |d6 g2 | e2c2 c2de |1 > d2G2 G2AB |c2B2 A2G2 :|2 dedB GAGE |c2F Fd2G-||G3E G4 |] > > ciao > > Dave S > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
