[NTG-context] smultron editor with ConTeXt also usable with MacTeX-TL?
Dag ok, ConTeXt-garden suggests to use Smultron editor with Minimal-ConTeXt installation - http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ ConTeXt_Minimals#Smultron_installation_and_configuration and gives some information about how to configure Smultron to work as an editor for ConTeXt. Question: Might it be worthwile to use Smultron (instead of TeXShop) as editor also with the Mac-TeX-TL installation which I have? Then, how to adjust the configuration of Smultron in that case, _instead_ of the following for Minimal-ConTeXt (quoted from that instruction): 4. Create a new command by pressing the New Command button and type a name (e.g. minimalsTexexec). Then, write in the text field at the bottom: #!/bin/sh cd /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/ . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex /Applications/ ConTeXtMinimals/tex cd %%d texexec %%p As far as I'm able to look after it, my TeXLife installation is located in: /usr/local/texlive/2007 with ConTeXt scripts in: /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context But I don't dare to adapt the Smultron configuration above without confirmation or alternative instruction ... Or have I to decide wether to continue to use ConTeXt in MacTeX- TeXLife with TeXShop _OR_ to install Minimal-ConTeXt and use it with Smultron? Goutgaun! joachim -- Kreimer-de Fries ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] How to read sources? (was:) Footnotes
Goden Dag, although my primary field of ConTeXt questions is marginal notes, I use to read the footnote threads on NTG-context with curiousness as well . Am 20.07.2008 um 19:50 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: When the manual is inadequate, I look at the sources. = Which sorces, wich directory and kind of files are meant, if one says look at the source, where do I find them? (On my TeX-life distribution on Mac OSX 10.4x Tiger with actualized ConTeXt I didn't find the later mentioned core-not.tex) Once you figure out how to scan them for information, = Could one comunicate how to scan them for infomation or must that stay a secret? they are easy to understand. [I repeat: easy to understand!] In this case, core-not.tex says that the options of \setupfootnotes are [\c!location=\v!page, \c!way=\v!by\v!part, \c!sectionnumber=\v!no, \c!conversion=, \c!rule=\v!on, [etc. and so on...] Nothing of this and the following code lines I can understand, so it is not easy - albeit that one knows the syntax and meanings of these commands. = Where can I find an explanation of this, not to write this kind of code myself but to understand off it, which kind of commands I can use with footnotes (in this case)? Ulrich Dirr, who had posed the question about his kind of footnotes asked back 21.07.2008 at 09:09: O.k. I could look in the source too, but where did you read 'location=normal'? Also I don't know what other option are allowed, e.g., in \numbercommand or \split. Only the default values are here as I understand. I support this question (only that I don't know how to look in the sorce yet...) Goutgaun! Joachim Kreimer-de Fries, simpel user and beginner in ConTeXt P. S. An OT-question besides: does anyone know an file manager program instead of the mac Finder, which allows me to find files in the hidden directories of Mac-OSX in a GUI way instead of unix terminal commands cd, ls and find? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Last attempt: numbered margin notes in ConTeXt?
- hartelik dankseggen! - What a beatific surprise when I opened my Mail in the late morning for the first time: all my yesterdays problems with marginal notes in ConTeXt and Hans' Code resolved, almost all used commands and elements explained, so that I have won confidence that I shall make it to configure the marginalia in the wanted format and to learn and use ConTeXt. I'm really impressed of your helpfullness! Thank you, Hans, for the improved code and expanation, thank you, Tobias and Aditya for the explanations and the links, also for the correction of the code regarding \plusone (that was the reason for the typeset accent signs ´ instead of superscript numbers in the body text)! Despite your extended help, I have still acquire a lot to build my first little document in ConTeXt - I postponed this learning process to have more certainty that the marginalia question can be resolved and confidence that I can make it. Am 06.06.2008 um 00:24 schrieb Hans Hagen: concerning documentation ... if i had 60 hours in a day keeping up with user demands, developments, my work etc etc takes time too I understand this very well, the more I'm happy for the help. the best resource for special cases is still this mailing list since others may have needed you rfeature before As was demonstrated... I'll come back to this, when certainly needed again. Prachtig wiekenende! Goutgaun! joachim -- Kreimer-de Fries ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Last attempt: numbered margin notes in ConTeXt?
In friendly and helpfully answering to my late night question
How to create _numbered_ margin notes in ConTeXt?
Hans Hagen wrote 05.06.2008 at 10:04:
quick and dirty command (instead one can use enumerations and do some
complex setup)
Before ending this day, I want to thank you for your endeavour (also
for Taco's attentive regret).
Dear Hans, you know what your code produces:
- indeed, the marginal notes are numbered (I can live with the fact
that this is not the kind numbering of notes (cf. footnotes) one -
the reader - expects);
- indeed the notes are no longer printed one over the other.
BUT:
- the accent sign ( ´ ) placed in the text body before the next word
following that wich is explained in the marginal note will not be
accepted and understood by the readers. It must, of course, be a
superscripts number (the same number as in the referencing marginal
note).
AND:
You won't really expect that someone outside the circle of you
programmers who have developed ConTeXt, i. e. a simple (beginning)
user of ConTeXt - even if highly willing to learn, is able to change
this code in a way to get the wanted results (which I had illustrated
with the pdf-file produced under extremly frustrating formating
effort with OpenOffice Writer).
With two exceptions (\def and \setupinmargin) I did not find any of
the used commands documented in ConTEXt - the manual or the
commands quick reference of 2001. I could not verify in the http://
texshow.contextgarden.net/
because not available - as almost everytime. But from my last
remember, when it - for once - was available, they are not in there,
neither.
On the one hand I have still the impression, that ConTeXt is a highly
adaptable and flexible typesetting system within TeX (probably my
intents with marginal notes as help for understanding texts could
find a solution),
on the other hand I'm almost giving up with my intention, because the
only program/system with wich I a had hope to resolve this problem is
not configurable for me, because ... I'm not a programmer or software
developer, because you ConTeXt-developers don't care enough about
usable, applicable documentation, because the cultural, didactical
value of the old (hand-) typesetting technique of marginal notes has
come out of fashion, what ever...
N. B. I recommend the provision in ConTeXt for marginal notes in my
intented sense warmly to you: they are an acquirement of civilization
with big possibilities for the future and no other - at least no word
processing program - is able to handle them yet in a acceptable manner!
Nevertheless, be it pure curiousness or still persistant hope in
acquiring the skills for ConTeXt, I would like to know:
1.
in your sample code, Hans:
between \starttext and \stoptext you write once (the first time of
occurrence):
bla bla bla \mnote{xxx} bla bla
but in the second time:
bla bla bla \mnote[foo]{xxx} bla bla bla
and then again:
bla bla bla \mnote{xxx}
Has the [foo] after the first \mnote any relevance and which?
2.
the last row of your document text is:
in \in {note} [foo]
in my pdf-output this appears as :
in note 2
This is not reasonable and desired (it should not appear). Was it a
slip of the pen on your side or any purpose, if yes, which one?
All the best and
Goutgaun!
joachim
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[NTG-context] Last attempt: numbered margin notes in ConTeXt?
Hey friendly helpers, I see, this list is one for experts and programmers, less for simple users. But given that there is no list for beginners of ConTeXt, I make my last attempt to get help in the following problem: How to create _numbered_ margin notes in ConTeXt? I have already spent some week of my disposable time to that problem without success. I attach an example file as pdf, created in several attempts with OpenOffice-writer, with spare success and giving up after the 14th note on this half-page. But it can illustrate what I want and need: - Margin(al) notes, numbered/referenced like footnotes, preferably in the wider right margin of the page. - Each margin note possibly on the same line with the referenced word/ expression in the text body which shall be translated/explained = if possible, i. e. if this place is not yet occupied by a foregoing margin note for a word or phrase in the same or a former line. - In the latter case, the margin note shall be typeset _below_ the former margin note (without printing one note on the other). Is there a way to setup/define the inmargin in the preamble of a ConTeXt document but then getting this result with a normal or (foregoing defined) command? Any other advice for to get this result? Or is it - for TeXnical reasons - not possible to achieve this result with reasonable effort in ConTeXt neither? I would be happy to get assistance (best the necessary commands/setup text) or any other advice to get the wanted result. Hopefully, Joachim Kreimer-de Fries Am 23.05.2008 um 09:23 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: 3. How to setup page/layout dimensions? \setuplayout [backspace=2cm, width=10cm, rightmargin=8cm, ...] This worked immediatly. Thank you very much, Wolfgang, for your swift help! Text from 1844 by F. W. Lyra in the Westphalian language: lyra-test.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] mac install page layout numbered margin notes
Hello context-helpers for newbie: in the documents planned (in and over the Westphalian language) I wish to use many margin notes (word translations, exlanations etc.). The margin notes should be numbered with reference number (or other indication) in the text body. And I should be able to input utf-8 (because of umlaute and phonetical notations, IPA etc.). Therefore I installed some week ago = MacTeX on my MacBook Pro with OSX 10.4 (Tiger) and would like to use = ConTeXt, possibly within = TexShop (or elsewise, if better). But I need a lot of start-up help. Therefore I put the main questions of the moment here hoping, that some take pity with me and answer the one or the other of the following questions: 1. Installation of ConTeXt complete and actual? Has MacTeX braught me with it the main components of the ConTeXt system or should I update/complete it and how? texexec --version TeXExec | version 6.2.0 - 1997-2006 - PRAGMA ADE/POD 2. How to switch to the German commands in ConTeXt? (Perheps that might help me a little to learn and remember commands. Therefore I want to switch if possible now at the beginning.) 3. How to setup page/layout dimensions? Because of the work with margin notes as a form of ever present accompanying, helping side text for the reader and learner, I need say == the third width of the right page for the margin notes. I read the applying chapters and passages in Hans Hagen's ConTEXt the manual (November 12, 2001) several times, but I couldn't get it yet. 4. How to set up = numbered margin notes and, thereover, = prevent, that they are printed one over the other, when there is not enough space between the referenced words/phrases in the text body? 5. How to find and learn the possible options to the commands? The few commands and options I found yet were token from the manuals, but this was rather trial and error. I attach the (abbreviated) Example of my first Text with ConTeXt, so that you can better see, what my most needed help could be (fo to come to an output with bride (right) margin and automatically numbered margin notes). The attached TeX file gave the pdf output, but nevertheless texexec (or what ever) gives me a FAILED message in the TexShop Console: ### /usr/texbin/dvips -R -Poutline -o /tmp/altpdflatex. 1646-1211465898/LyraV-TShop-source-u.ps LyraV-TShop-source-u.dvi This is dvips(k) 5.96 Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com) /usr/texbin/dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened. ### FAILED to generate /tmp/altpdflatex.1646-1211465898/LyraV-TShop- source-u.ps () Any help suggestions also for that? Thank you for reading my cry fore help, best wishes, Met echt-westfälsken Gröiten joachim LyraV-TShop-src-abbr.tex Description: Binary data -- Kreimer-de Fries, Berlin___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mac install page layout numbered margin notes
22.05.2008 at 18:39 Wolfgang Schuster - thankworthily answering my help questions - asked : What is the result from ctxtools --contextversion joachim$ ctxtools --contextversion CtxTools | context version: 2007.01.12 15:56 (/usr/local/texlive/2007/ texmf-dist/tex/context/base/context.tex) CtxTools | context version: 2007.01.12 15:56 (/usr/local/texlive/2007/ texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex) Is that the actual version? 2. How to switch to the German commands in ConTeXt? Don't do this, the german interface is not complete, new commands have english names and a few entries need better names and it would be hard for us to help you. Does this means, that the German interface _is_ complete together with the new commands that have English names? Then only the last argument (it would be hard for us to help you) prevents me from switching to the German interface. (And ... not knowing how to do that...) 3. How to setup page/layout dimensions? \setuplayout [backspace=2cm, width=10cm, rightmargin=8cm, ...] This worked immediatly. Thank you very much, Wolfgang, for your swift help! 4. How to set up = numbered margin notes and, thereover, = prevent, that they are printed one over the other, when there is not enough space between the referenced words/phrases in the text body? Try the following code from Hans: [...] That code sets the notes into the _left margin_, not into the right. I could not reverse that. Or because I didn't find out the right commands/option or because it is not possible. I even tried then to set reverse the width of the margins, e. g. the broader one left and small one at the right, so that the notes produced with the code of Hans in the left margin of the text body should find place. Without success. But I'd like to know if this is possible and how. The code of Hans is doubtlessly a very useful code for certain purposes but perhaps less for the purpose I asked for. It sets the (then indeed numbered, glossary-) notes pagewise from the top down one after another, so again (as with footnotes) far away from theyr reference text (word, phrase) in the body text. I wanted the effect that I experimented before with the package footmisc in LaTeX (footnotes as margin notes), but avoiding having printed two notes on the same place (one over the other, not readable) but in _those_ cases the second note below the first. Perhaps this is not possible in TeX and therefore in ConTeXt neither? Best wishes, joachim ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
