Re: [NTG-context] Fw: A question about layers
In addition to my previous mail there is also an article published in the MAPS39 which shows an example of using layers. You can download it from here : http://www.ntg.nl/maps/39/ (Willi Egger, Decorating CD-ROMs and DVDs (English), MAPS 39, 2009, 59-71) Willi On 16 Jul 2011, at 19:35, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > Anybody help, please...? > > Dnia 2011-07-14, o godz. 23:37:29 > Marcin Borkowski napisał(a): > >> I think that the general problem is that I have a wrong conceptual >> model of layers in ConTeXt. You know, when I hear the word "layer", >> I have some ideas about how it should/could/might work, and probably >> these ideas are different than Hans'. So I'm going to briefly >> describe my idea (already modified by the answers) and please tell me >> what's wrong with it. >> >> So I imagine that \definelayer / \setuplayer defines a rectangular >> shape on the page, possibly framed/colored/etc., which is going to >> appear on all pages (default) or on selected ones. The contents of >> layers are set with \setlayer, (with some - mysterious for me - >> "setups" trickery if they are going to change from page to page), and >> they are actually put on the page by \setupbackgrounds. (And I have >> no idea what \flushlayer does in this conceptual framework.) So >> layers are actually kind of "beneath" ordinary page contents. >> >> Some of these commands (which ones?) should moreover be placed before >> \startext. >> >> OK, so where am I right and where am I wrong now? > > Best > > -- > Marcin Borkowski > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fw: A question about layers
Am 16.07.2011 um 19:35 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: > Anybody help, please...? Layers are objects which can be placed on any place of the page. The difference between \setupbackgrounds and \flushlayer can be seen in the example below. With \setupbackground the layer content is put on the requested position (behind the text) after TeX has finished the page. With \flushlayer ConTeXt starts a new page where all collected layers are placed without any other text. \definelayer[one] \definelayer[two] \setupbackgrounds[text][text][background=one] \starttext \input ward \setlayer[one][x=3cm,y=3cm]{\tt One} \page \setlayer[two][x=3cm,y=3cm]{\tt Two} \input ward \flushlayer[two] \input ward \stoptext As your plan is to make a document with layers only \flushlayer is the better choice because you can do this: \definelayer[content] \definestartstop [PAGE] [after={\flushlayer[content]}] \setuplayout[page] \starttext \startPAGE \setlayer[content][x=3cm,y=4cm]{A} \setlayerframed[content][x=7cm,y=2cm,frame=off,foregroundcolor=blue]{B} \stopPAGE \startPAGE \setlayer[content][x=3cm,y=8cm]{\externalfigure[cow]} \stopPAGE \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fw: A question about layers
Hi, the easiest way to get info is to read details.pdf and the new metafun-manual. Willi On 16 Jul 2011, at 19:35, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > Anybody help, please...? > > Dnia 2011-07-14, o godz. 23:37:29 > Marcin Borkowski napisał(a): > >> I think that the general problem is that I have a wrong conceptual >> model of layers in ConTeXt. You know, when I hear the word "layer", >> I have some ideas about how it should/could/might work, and probably >> these ideas are different than Hans'. So I'm going to briefly >> describe my idea (already modified by the answers) and please tell me >> what's wrong with it. >> >> So I imagine that \definelayer / \setuplayer defines a rectangular >> shape on the page, possibly framed/colored/etc., which is going to >> appear on all pages (default) or on selected ones. The contents of >> layers are set with \setlayer, (with some - mysterious for me - >> "setups" trickery if they are going to change from page to page), and >> they are actually put on the page by \setupbackgrounds. (And I have >> no idea what \flushlayer does in this conceptual framework.) So >> layers are actually kind of "beneath" ordinary page contents. >> >> Some of these commands (which ones?) should moreover be placed before >> \startext. >> >> OK, so where am I right and where am I wrong now? > > Best > > -- > Marcin Borkowski > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fw: A question about layers
Anybody help, please...? Dnia 2011-07-14, o godz. 23:37:29 Marcin Borkowski napisał(a): > I think that the general problem is that I have a wrong conceptual > model of layers in ConTeXt. You know, when I hear the word "layer", > I have some ideas about how it should/could/might work, and probably > these ideas are different than Hans'. So I'm going to briefly > describe my idea (already modified by the answers) and please tell me > what's wrong with it. > > So I imagine that \definelayer / \setuplayer defines a rectangular > shape on the page, possibly framed/colored/etc., which is going to > appear on all pages (default) or on selected ones. The contents of > layers are set with \setlayer, (with some - mysterious for me - > "setups" trickery if they are going to change from page to page), and > they are actually put on the page by \setupbackgrounds. (And I have > no idea what \flushlayer does in this conceptual framework.) So > layers are actually kind of "beneath" ordinary page contents. > > Some of these commands (which ones?) should moreover be placed before > \startext. > > OK, so where am I right and where am I wrong now? Best -- Marcin Borkowski ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fw: A question about layers
And the second message accidentally sent to Hans: Dnia 2011-07-14, czw o godzinie 16:29 +0200, Hans Hagen pisze: > On 14-7-2011 4:25, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > > OK, > > > > after a pm from Mojca concerning my previous question I decided to > > look into the "layers" mechanism. > > > > It won't work for me - just nothing shows up. > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > Here's a minimal example: > > > > \starttext > > \definelayer[title][x=105mm,y=20mm] > > \setlayer[title]{This is the title.} > > \stoptext > > > > (I'd also like to be able to "anchor" the title so that > > (105mm,20mm) are the coordinates of the center, not the lower-left > > corner etc. How to do that?) > > \flushlayer[title] > > etc (some styles in the distributions have examples) I think that the general problem is that I have a wrong conceptual model of layers in ConTeXt. You know, when I hear the word "layer", I have some ideas about how it should/could/might work, and probably these ideas are different than Hans'. So I'm going to briefly describe my idea (already modified by the answers) and please tell me what's wrong with it. So I imagine that \definelayer / \setuplayer defines a rectangular shape on the page, possibly framed/colored/etc., which is going to appear on all pages (default) or on selected ones. The contents of layers are set with \setlayer, (with some - mysterious for me - "setups" trickery if they are going to change from page to page), and they are actually put on the page by \setupbackgrounds. (And I have no idea what \flushlayer does in this conceptual framework.) So layers are actually kind of "beneath" ordinary page contents. Some of these commands (which ones?) should moreover be placed before \startext. OK, so where am I right and where am I wrong now? -- Marcin Borkowski http://mbork.pl -- Marcin Borkowski ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fw: A question about layers
I am sorry, Hans, I sent this (and the next message) to you instead of to the list. Here's a forward: Dnia 2011-07-14, czw o godzinie 16:29 +0200, Hans Hagen pisze: > On 14-7-2011 4:25, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > > OK, > > > > after a pm from Mojca concerning my previous question I decided to > > look into the "layers" mechanism. > > > > It won't work for me - just nothing shows up. > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > Here's a minimal example: > > > > \starttext > > \definelayer[title][x=105mm,y=20mm] > > \setlayer[title]{This is the title.} > > \stoptext > > > > (I'd also like to be able to "anchor" the title so that > > (105mm,20mm) are the coordinates of the center, not the lower-left > > corner etc. How to do that?) > > \flushlayer[title] Thanks too; but again, what does this do exactly? (Sorry for asking dumb questions, but I'd like to understand the underlying mechanism, not only learn how to use it...) -- Marcin Borkowski http://mbork.pl ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___