Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
2011/3/1 Wolfgang Schuster
> \setupparagraphintro[each][\keeplinestogether{10}]
>
>
> Wrecks havoc with my document.
>
>
> Without seeing your document there is no way to help you.
>
I'll try to make a synopsis. Will properly be Friday before I'll post it.
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Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
Am 01.03.2011 um 20:31 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
> 2011/3/1 Wolfgang Schuster
> \setupparagraphintro[each][\keeplinestogether{10}]
>
> Wrecks havoc with my document.
Without seeing your document there is no way to help you.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
2011/3/1 Wolfgang Schuster
> \setupparagraphintro[each][\keeplinestogether{10}]
>
Wrecks havoc with my document.
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Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
Am 01.03.2011 um 19:06 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
> 2011/3/1 Wolfgang Schuster
>> If you add before starttext \interlinepenalty=1 it works. But alas, not
>> in my case.
>
> This will change the settings for all paragraphs while \keeplinestogether
> only applies for a given number of line for the next paragraph.
>
> That is exactly what I want: keeping all my paragraphs together. But when I
> use it in my file, I get a few lines pro page.
% engine=pdftex
\setupparagraphintro[each][\keeplinestogether{10}]
\starttext
\dorecurse{5}{\input tufte\par}
\stoptext
The \setupparagraphintro command doesn’t work currently in mkiv.
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Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
2011/3/1 Wolfgang Schuster > If you add before starttext \interlinepenalty=1 it works. But alas, not > in my case. > > > This will change the settings for all paragraphs while \keeplinestogether > only applies for a given number of line for the next paragraph. > That is exactly what I want: keeping all my paragraphs together. But when I use it in my file, I get a few lines pro page. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
Am 01.03.2011 um 18:05 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
> 2011/3/1 Wolfgang Schuster
>
> Am 01.03.2011 um 17:06 schrieb Philipp Stephani:
>
> > I don't know whether that still works in ConTeXt, but try
> > \interlinepenalty=1
>
> It works but it’s to low level.
>
> There is also \interlinepenalties and ConTeXts \keeplinestogether (which use
> it) command but it doesn’t work
>
> \starttext
>
> \dorecurse{4}{\input tufte\par}
>
> \keeplinestogether{10}
> \input tufte\par
>
> \stoptext
>
> If you add before starttext \interlinepenalty=1 it works. But alas, not
> in my case.
This will change the settings for all paragraphs while \keeplinestogether
only applies for a given number of line for the next paragraph.
Maybe this is what you want:
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input tufte\par}
\start\interlinepenalty=1 % keep the setting local
\input tufte\par
\stop
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
2011/3/1 Wolfgang Schuster
>
> Am 01.03.2011 um 17:06 schrieb Philipp Stephani:
>
> > I don't know whether that still works in ConTeXt, but try
> > \interlinepenalty=1
>
> It works but it’s to low level.
>
> There is also \interlinepenalties and ConTeXts \keeplinestogether (which
> use it) command but it doesn’t work
>
> \starttext
>
> \dorecurse{4}{\input tufte\par}
>
> \keeplinestogether{10}
> \input tufte\par
>
> \stoptext
>
If you add before starttext \interlinepenalty=1 it works. But alas, not
in my case.
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Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
Am 01.03.2011 um 17:06 schrieb Philipp Stephani:
> I don't know whether that still works in ConTeXt, but try
> \interlinepenalty=1
It works but it’s to low level.
There is also \interlinepenalties and ConTeXts \keeplinestogether (which use
it) command but it doesn’t work
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input tufte\par}
\keeplinestogether{10}
\input tufte\par
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
2011/3/1 Philipp Stephani > > Yes, in this particular case I would like not to break them. > > I don't know whether that still works in ConTeXt, but try > \interlinepenalty=1 > That made havoc of my document. > > What would also be acceptable is when there are at least five lines on > the page. > > Try this (again untested): > \clubpenalties 5 1 1 1 1 1 > \widowpenalties 5 1 1 1 1 1 > Does not seem to have any effect. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
Am 01.03.2011 um 16:03 schrieb ntg-context-requ...@ntg.nl: > Von: Cecil Westerhof > Datum: 1. März 2011 15:56:03 MEZ > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans > Antwort an: mailing list for ConTeXt users > > > 2011/3/1 Thomas A. Schmitz > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > > > I do not want to have widows and orphans. Because of this I use: > > \clubpenalty=1 > > \widowpenalty=1 > > > > But this has no effect. Still the last two lines of a paragraph are put on > > the next page instead of the complete paragraph. > > I think you are confusing things here: orphans and widows refer to single > lines on the following/preceding page. So if you get two lines, you get > exactly what you ask for. If I understand you correctly, you do not want to > break paragraphs vertically at all? > > Okay, I did not understand the terminology correctly. > > Yes, in this particular case I would like not to break them. I don't know whether that still works in ConTeXt, but try \interlinepenalty=1 > What would also be acceptable is when there are at least five lines on the > page. Try this (again untested): \clubpenalties 5 1 1 1 1 1 \widowpenalties 5 1 1 1 1 1 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > 2011/3/1 Thomas A. Schmitz >> >> On Mar 1, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: >> >> > I do not want to have widows and orphans. Because of this I use: >> > \clubpenalty=1 >> > \widowpenalty=1 >> > >> > But this has no effect. Still the last two lines of a paragraph are put >> > on the next page instead of the complete paragraph. >> >> I think you are confusing things here: orphans and widows refer to single >> lines on the following/preceding page. So if you get two lines, you get >> exactly what you ask for. If I understand you correctly, you do not want to >> break paragraphs vertically at all? > > Okay, I did not understand the terminology correctly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widow_%28typesetting%29 -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
2011/3/1 Thomas A. Schmitz > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > > > I do not want to have widows and orphans. Because of this I use: > > \clubpenalty=1 > > \widowpenalty=1 > > > > But this has no effect. Still the last two lines of a paragraph are put > on the next page instead of the complete paragraph. > > I think you are confusing things here: orphans and widows refer to single > lines on the following/preceding page. So if you get two lines, you get > exactly what you ask for. If I understand you correctly, you do not want to > break paragraphs vertically at all? > Okay, I did not understand the terminology correctly. Yes, in this particular case I would like not to break them. What would also be acceptable is when there are at least five lines on the page. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] No widows and orphans
On Mar 1, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > I do not want to have widows and orphans. Because of this I use: > \clubpenalty=1 > \widowpenalty=1 > > But this has no effect. Still the last two lines of a paragraph are put on > the next page instead of the complete paragraph. I think you are confusing things here: orphans and widows refer to single lines on the following/preceding page. So if you get two lines, you get exactly what you ask for. If I understand you correctly, you do not want to break paragraphs vertically at all? Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] No widows and orphans
I do not want to have widows and orphans. Because of this I use: \clubpenalty=1 \widowpenalty=1 But this has no effect. Still the last two lines of a paragraph are put on the next page instead of the complete paragraph. I somewhere read about using: setups=*strict so I now have: \setuplayout[ header=0mm, setups=*strict, ] This makes it a little better. Now three lines are put on the other page. Is it possible to get the complete paragraph on the other page? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
