[NTG-context] collecting user wishes for streams related functionalities
Hi All, Hans will starting looking into the development of 'streams' for mkvi soon. So let us gather our wishes for these functions so that the interface can be well thought of beforehand. Please respond to this thread with your wishes and I might compile them later in one place if doing so makes sense. To begin with here is my first wish: Being able to flow multiple texts in parallel. A simple case is a translation of the same text running on opposite page while the original runs on left/right page. In my thesis these are not translations, but correlated texts written for different audiences. (think of levels in a CG game) So the texts need to be designed differently. To extrapolate this facility, if columns on one page can run such parallel texts then we can have multiple translations running together. Best regards, Salil ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] collecting user wishes for streams related functionalities
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 06:23:20AM -0700, Salil Sayed wrote: > Hi All, > > Hans will starting looking into the development of 'streams' for mkvi soon. So > let us gather our wishes for these functions so that the interface can be well > thought of beforehand. Please respond to this thread with your wishes and I > might compile them later in one place if doing so makes sense. > > To begin with here is my first wish: > > Being able to flow multiple texts in parallel. A simple case is a translation > of the same text running on opposite page while the original runs on > left/right > page. In my thesis these are not translations, but correlated texts written > for > different audiences. (think of levels in a CG game) So the texts need to be > designed differently. > > To extrapolate this facility, if columns on one page can run such parallel > texts then we can have multiple translations running together. Old Arabic book, essentially all early Bulaq Press books used to typeset two books in one, one is the main book running on the body of the page, while the other is a loosely related book running in the margins of the page, the second book can be a commentary on the main book, but often they just discuss the same subject with no direct correlation (not a critical edition). I'd like to be able to reproduce such layout. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] collecting user wishes for streams related functionalities
> > To extrapolate this facility, if columns on one page can run such > parallel texts then we can have multiple translations running together. I would like to do something slightly more general: it would be nice if columnset blocks could take their input from streams, even if the block is not a full column (or multiple columns). Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] collecting user wishes for streams related functionalities
On 2010-08-18 <06:23:20>, Salil Sayed wrote: >Hi All, >Hans will starting looking into the development of 'streams' for mkvi >soon. So let us gather our wishes for these functions so that the >interface can be well thought of beforehand. Please respond to this >thread with your wishes and I might compile them later in one place if >doing so makes sense. >To begin with here is my first wish: >Being able to flow multiple texts in parallel. A simple case is a >translation of the same text running on opposite page while the >original runs on left/right page. In my thesis these are not >translations, but correlated texts written for different audiences. >(think of levels in a CG game) So the texts need to be designed >differently. >To extrapolate this facility, if columns on one page can run such >parallel texts then we can have multiple translations running together. >Best regards, >Salil Hi Salil, three items I'd like to add: * horizontal split page layout (upper and lower parts instead of columns), * asymmetric stream combinations (e.g. two streams on the left page, another stream on the facing page), and * easy reprinting (i.e. a photographic reproduction as one stream on the left and a text stream on the right page). I've seen all of this in printed books so it would be a pity to live in a world where the best typesetting system can't do that. Some of this I already mentioned to Hans a while ago, maybe he remembers. Regards, Philipp > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments pgpUTFFvqNrU1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] collecting user wishes for streams related functionalities
On 18-8-2010 3:23, Salil Sayed wrote: Hi All, Hans will starting looking into the development of 'streams' for mkvi soon. So let us gather our wishes for these functions so that the interface can be well thought of beforehand. Please respond to this thread with your wishes and I might compile them later in one place if doing so makes sense. I assume that eventually you will summarize this. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] collecting user wishes for streams related functionalities
Hi everyone, I second the request to support horizontally split page layouts with one stream typeset above another on each page. Kevin On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Philipp Gesang < pges...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote: > On 2010-08-18 <06:23:20>, Salil Sayed wrote: > >Hi All, > >Hans will starting looking into the development of 'streams' for mkvi > >soon. So let us gather our wishes for these functions so that the > >interface can be well thought of beforehand. Please respond to this > >thread with your wishes and I might compile them later in one place if > >doing so makes sense. > >To begin with here is my first wish: > >Being able to flow multiple texts in parallel. A simple case is a > >translation of the same text running on opposite page while the > >original runs on left/right page. In my thesis these are not > >translations, but correlated texts written for different audiences. > >(think of levels in a CG game) So the texts need to be designed > >differently. > >To extrapolate this facility, if columns on one page can run such > >parallel texts then we can have multiple translations running > together. > >Best regards, > >Salil > > Hi Salil, > > three items I'd like to add: > * horizontal split page layout (upper and lower parts instead of >columns), > * asymmetric stream combinations (e.g. two streams on the left page, >another stream on the facing page), and > * easy reprinting (i.e. a photographic reproduction as one stream on >the left and a text stream on the right page). > I've seen all of this in printed books so it would be a pity to live in > a world where the best typesetting system can't do that. Some of this I > already mentioned to Hans a while ago, maybe he remembers. > > Regards, Philipp > > > > > ___ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > > ___ > > > -- > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ > > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] collecting user wishes for streams related functionalities
On 18-8-2010 4:52, Kevin D. Robbins wrote: Hi everyone, I second the request to support horizontally split page layouts with one stream typeset above another on each page. it would help to see mockups for such requests - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] collecting user wishes for streams related functionalities
I think this is good example of this function. http://books.google.com/books?id=qdltz8N9qSEC&lpg=PP1&dq=the%20body%20multiple&pg=PA4#v=onepage&q&f=false On 18-8-2010 4:52, Kevin D. Robbins wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I second the request to support horizontally split page layouts with one > stream typeset above another on each page. it would help to see mockups for such requests - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl/ http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] collecting user wishes for streams related functionalities
On 2010-08-19 <00:18:49>, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 18-8-2010 4:52, Kevin D. Robbins wrote: > >Hi everyone, > > > >I second the request to support horizontally split page layouts with one > >stream typeset above another on each page. > > it would help to see mockups for such requests I got a less complex example from the library, in contrast to Salil's example this one is a translation: http://bayimg.com/oaoPpaaCh http://bayimg.com/PAOpAAaCh http://bayimg.com/pAopbaAch http://bayimg.com/pAOpDAaCH http://bayimg.com/PaoPeAAch Shows clearly that the streams are synced at every section (and that translation to English is a good compression for German…). I'll get some scans for asymmetric layouts next. Good night, Philipp -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments pgp1RtsW1yBKi.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
