Re: Who printed this?

2008-05-08 Thread Jon Harris
That does make a difference.  I know when I installed network printers,
those that used their own network card or a jet direct, I had to do the
installs as users were not able to install printers.  Once on the machine
they showed up in every profile on that machine.  Since a switched to a 2003
print/web server with Vista I can deploy them from the print server and they
work like a charm.  Those features I enable on the print server are all the
users get and they don't have to do anything but select which printer.  XP
does not work as smoothly but it does work,  The users if they know where
the printer exist can search and install themselves.  I can look at the
print server and it tells me the name of the file printed and who printed it
but only the user name.

I still think Jim is right one summer to get it up and then just a week or 2
each year to modify and the individual user accounts would make monitoring
so much easier.

Jon

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:48 PM, John Hornbuckle 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I can say with certainty that when we login as ourselves and connect to a
 shared printer, that printer is NOT listed when we login with a different
 account (e.g., a student account) on that same machine.



 If it makes a difference, the shared printers aren't connected directly to
 the network. They're connected to a workstation and shared from there.









 John





 *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:07 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Who printed this?



 Nope, they will be still be there.  You can check the system log on all
 the systems to see who did it but I would think only one time would make
 individual accounts easier to manage than searching all the local desktops
 for a print job.  I was looking on my print server.  It is so much easier to
 monitor rather than a bunch of desktops and deployment is a lot easier as
 well.



 Jon

 On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:01 PM, John Hornbuckle 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But these are network printers that we're connecting to, and connected
 network printers are on a per-user basis rather than a per-machine
 basis. So if the Media Specialist connects to the shared printer under
 her account, that printer won't be there when the student logs in,
 right?


 John




 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:45 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Who printed this?

 I can't answer your specific questions, but some things to think about
 related to this.


 GPO to only allow your meida specialists and IT staff install printers.
 So room 222 gets the printer near it and no others. That narrows down
 the attack footprint so to speak.

 Get away from the generic accounts as much as possible.  7 thru 12 here
 have to use their own account. There is a generic account for
 emergencies, only the media specialist have that password and we change
 it very often.

 1-6 each building has a generic account that is changed each year.
 Otherwise the 6th graders use the account in the jr highs..


   -Original Message-
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:38 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues

  Subject: Who printed this?
 
  Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
  shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
  default
  permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
  adjusting
  permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
  caused the students to find another one.
 
  Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
  the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
  sending the job.
 
  Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?
 
 
 
 
  John Hornbuckle
  MIS Department
  Taylor County School District
  318 North Clark Street
  Perry, FL 32347
 
  www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-08 Thread Campbell, Dick
Our school had a mainframe, but no students were allowed near it during
69-73, they were for adults only.  Kids might break it.

 

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Who printed this?

 

Yeah, that's what I say, PC's were non existent in High School in 1973
to 76.

 



From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Who printed this?

 

You had computers?

 

Mark

 



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Who printed this?

Yup, me too Bob, good ole trash-80's.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When I was in High School, we had a TRS-80.

Bob Fronk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:42 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Who printed this?


 Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts.

 No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?

 Christopher J. Bosak
 Vector Company
 c. 847.603.4673
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
 - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Who printed this?

 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
default
 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
adjusting
 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
 caused the students to find another one.

 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
 sending the job.

 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-08 Thread John Hornbuckle
Thanks, Stu. It may come to something like that, but for now free is
the keyword.

:-)


-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Who printed this?

John,

This might be a solution to look at:

http://www.printmanagerplus.com/

Warm regards,

Stu 

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Who printed this?

Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the default
permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by adjusting
permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
caused the students to find another one.

Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
sending the job.

Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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Re: Who printed this?

2008-05-08 Thread Klint Price - ArizonaITPro

wow, that is one way to get around user CAL licensing...



Christopher J. Bosak wrote:
Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts. 


No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?

Christopher J. Bosak
Vector Company
c. 847.603.4673
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Who printed this?

Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the default
permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by adjusting
permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
caused the students to find another one.

Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
sending the job.

Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-08 Thread John Hornbuckle
CALs (and everything else from MS) are so cheap for educational entities
that there's no need to try to sneak around licensing rules.




-Original Message-
From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Who printed this?

wow, that is one way to get around user CAL licensing...



Christopher J. Bosak wrote:
 Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts. 

 No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?

 Christopher J. Bosak
 Vector Company
 c. 847.603.4673
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
 - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Who printed this?

 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
default
 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
adjusting
 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
 caused the students to find another one.

 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
 sending the job.

 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Christopher J. Bosak
Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts. 

No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?

Christopher J. Bosak
Vector Company
c. 847.603.4673
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Who printed this?

Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the default
permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by adjusting
permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
caused the students to find another one.

Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
sending the job.

Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Kennedy, Jim
I can't answer your specific questions, but some things to think about related 
to this.


GPO to only allow your meida specialists and IT staff install printers. So room 
222 gets the printer near it and no others. That narrows down the attack 
footprint so to speak.

Get away from the generic accounts as much as possible.  7 thru 12 here have to 
use their own account. There is a generic account for emergencies, only the 
media specialist have that password and we change it very often.

1-6 each building has a generic account that is changed each year. Otherwise 
the 6th graders use the account in the jr highs..



 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:38 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Who printed this?

 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
 default
 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
 adjusting
 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
 caused the students to find another one.

 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
 sending the job.

 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Kennedy, Jim

Oh, and one other thing. We make each building by toner from THEIR building 
budget. Amazing how quickly they get with the program after they realize the 
costs of not cracking down on the students.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:45 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Who printed this?

 I can't answer your specific questions, but some things to think about
 related to this.


 GPO to only allow your meida specialists and IT staff install printers.
 So room 222 gets the printer near it and no others. That narrows down
 the attack footprint so to speak.

 Get away from the generic accounts as much as possible.  7 thru 12 here
 have to use their own account. There is a generic account for
 emergencies, only the media specialist have that password and we change
 it very often.

 1-6 each building has a generic account that is changed each year.
 Otherwise the 6th graders use the account in the jr highs..



  -Original Message-
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:38 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Who printed this?
 
  Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
  shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
  default
  permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
  adjusting
  permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
  caused the students to find another one.
 
  Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's
 sending
  the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
  sending the job.
 
  Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?
 
 
 
 
  John Hornbuckle
  MIS Department
  Taylor County School District
  318 North Clark Street
  Perry, FL 32347
 
  www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread John Hornbuckle
Well, there's a lot of work associated with individual accounts--and
we're spread pretty thin.

One thing we've done at some of our schools is to move to a shared
account per classroom. That at least narrows down the culprits. But at
this particular school, we've still got just one account.

The tech hasn't checked in Event Viewer yet; I was wondering if anyone
knew offhand if it would contain useful into before I sent her to do
that.



John



-Original Message-
From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Who printed this?

Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts. 

No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?

Christopher J. Bosak
Vector Company
c. 847.603.4673
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Who printed this?

Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the default
permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by adjusting
permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
caused the students to find another one.

Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
sending the job.

Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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Re: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Jon Harris
In mine there is only the userid so unless you have upped the auditing I
would think you are out of luck.  You know what you might try is creating
accounts when they enter school and deleting them when they graduate just
move them around otherwise.

Jon

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:53 PM, John Hornbuckle 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, there's a lot of work associated with individual accounts--and
 we're spread pretty thin.

 One thing we've done at some of our schools is to move to a shared
 account per classroom. That at least narrows down the culprits. But at
 this particular school, we've still got just one account.

 The tech hasn't checked in Event Viewer yet; I was wondering if anyone
 knew offhand if it would contain useful into before I sent her to do
 that.



 John



 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:42 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Who printed this?

 Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts.

 No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?

 Christopher J. Bosak
 Vector Company
 c. 847.603.4673
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
 - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Who printed this?

 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the default
 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by adjusting
 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
 caused the students to find another one.

 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
 sending the job.

 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread John Hornbuckle
But these are network printers that we're connecting to, and connected
network printers are on a per-user basis rather than a per-machine
basis. So if the Media Specialist connects to the shared printer under
her account, that printer won't be there when the student logs in,
right?


John



-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Who printed this?

I can't answer your specific questions, but some things to think about
related to this.


GPO to only allow your meida specialists and IT staff install printers.
So room 222 gets the printer near it and no others. That narrows down
the attack footprint so to speak.

Get away from the generic accounts as much as possible.  7 thru 12 here
have to use their own account. There is a generic account for
emergencies, only the media specialist have that password and we change
it very often.

1-6 each building has a generic account that is changed each year.
Otherwise the 6th graders use the account in the jr highs..



 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:38 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Who printed this?

 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
 default
 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
 adjusting
 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
 caused the students to find another one.

 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
 sending the job.

 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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Re: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Jon Harris
Nope, they will be still be there.  You can check the system log on all the
systems to see who did it but I would think only one time would make
individual accounts easier to manage than searching all the local desktops
for a print job.  I was looking on my print server.  It is so much easier to
monitor rather than a bunch of desktops and deployment is a lot easier as
well.

Jon

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:01 PM, John Hornbuckle 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But these are network printers that we're connecting to, and connected
 network printers are on a per-user basis rather than a per-machine
 basis. So if the Media Specialist connects to the shared printer under
 her account, that printer won't be there when the student logs in,
 right?


 John



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:45 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Who printed this?

 I can't answer your specific questions, but some things to think about
 related to this.


 GPO to only allow your meida specialists and IT staff install printers.
 So room 222 gets the printer near it and no others. That narrows down
 the attack footprint so to speak.

 Get away from the generic accounts as much as possible.  7 thru 12 here
 have to use their own account. There is a generic account for
 emergencies, only the media specialist have that password and we change
 it very often.

 1-6 each building has a generic account that is changed each year.
 Otherwise the 6th graders use the account in the jr highs..



  -Original Message-
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:38 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: Who printed this?
 
  Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
  shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
  default
  permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
  adjusting
  permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
  caused the students to find another one.
 
  Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
  the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
  sending the job.
 
  Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?
 
 
 
 
  John Hornbuckle
  MIS Department
  Taylor County School District
  318 North Clark Street
  Perry, FL 32347
 
  www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Kennedy, Jim

Nope, what you describe is exactly what we have and do. Printers are either on 
a jet direct box or their own NIC..once installed they are available to 
everyone that logs in.

Reconsider the account thing, it is not that big a deal. Get the list from your 
student information system, use their student ID's for passwords and script 
create them. OU's for School and year, roll them up each summer and delete the 
12th grade.

Redirect my documents to a shared server folder and it will automatically 
created the folder for them
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443

We have 8000 students, I spend 2 or 3 days tops each summer bumping and rolling 
accounts for students.

And last, delegate account control to the Media Specs in each building and 
teach them how to reset passwords and create accounts...


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:01 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Who printed this?

 But these are network printers that we're connecting to, and connected
 network printers are on a per-user basis rather than a per-machine
 basis. So if the Media Specialist connects to the shared printer under
 her account, that printer won't be there when the student logs in,
 right?


 John



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:45 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Who printed this?

 I can't answer your specific questions, but some things to think about
 related to this.


 GPO to only allow your meida specialists and IT staff install printers.
 So room 222 gets the printer near it and no others. That narrows down
 the attack footprint so to speak.

 Get away from the generic accounts as much as possible.  7 thru 12 here
 have to use their own account. There is a generic account for
 emergencies, only the media specialist have that password and we change
 it very often.

 1-6 each building has a generic account that is changed each year.
 Otherwise the 6th graders use the account in the jr highs..



  -Original Message-
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:38 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Who printed this?
 
  Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
  shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
  default
  permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
  adjusting
  permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
  caused the students to find another one.
 
  Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's
 sending
  the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
  sending the job.
 
  Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?
 
 
 
 
  John Hornbuckle
  MIS Department
  Taylor County School District
  318 North Clark Street
  Perry, FL 32347
 
  www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread John Hornbuckle
I can say with certainty that when we login as ourselves and connect to
a shared printer, that printer is NOT listed when we login with a
different account (e.g., a student account) on that same machine.

 

If it makes a difference, the shared printers aren't connected directly
to the network. They're connected to a workstation and shared from
there.

 

 

 

 

John

 

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Who printed this?

 

Nope, they will be still be there.  You can check the system log on all
the systems to see who did it but I would think only one time would make
individual accounts easier to manage than searching all the local
desktops for a print job.  I was looking on my print server.  It is so
much easier to monitor rather than a bunch of desktops and deployment is
a lot easier as well.

 

Jon

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:01 PM, John Hornbuckle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But these are network printers that we're connecting to, and connected
network printers are on a per-user basis rather than a per-machine
basis. So if the Media Specialist connects to the shared printer under
her account, that printer won't be there when the student logs in,
right?


John




-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Who printed this?

I can't answer your specific questions, but some things to think about
related to this.


GPO to only allow your meida specialists and IT staff install printers.
So room 222 gets the printer near it and no others. That narrows down
the attack footprint so to speak.

Get away from the generic accounts as much as possible.  7 thru 12 here
have to use their own account. There is a generic account for
emergencies, only the media specialist have that password and we change
it very often.

1-6 each building has a generic account that is changed each year.
Otherwise the 6th graders use the account in the jr highs..




 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:38 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: Who printed this?

 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
 default
 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
 adjusting
 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
 caused the students to find another one.

 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
 sending the job.

 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ 


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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Kennedy, Jim

Yep, workstation connected makes a difference..



From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Who printed this?

I can say with certainty that when we login as ourselves and connect to a 
shared printer, that printer is NOT listed when we login with a different 
account (e.g., a student account) on that same machine.

If it makes a difference, the shared printers aren't connected directly to the 
network. They're connected to a workstation and shared from there.




John


From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Who printed this?

Nope, they will be still be there.  You can check the system log on all the 
systems to see who did it but I would think only one time would make individual 
accounts easier to manage than searching all the local desktops for a print 
job.  I was looking on my print server.  It is so much easier to monitor rather 
than a bunch of desktops and deployment is a lot easier as well.

Jon
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:01 PM, John Hornbuckle [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But these are network printers that we're connecting to, and connected
network printers are on a per-user basis rather than a per-machine
basis. So if the Media Specialist connects to the shared printer under
her account, that printer won't be there when the student logs in,
right?


John



-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Who printed this?
I can't answer your specific questions, but some things to think about
related to this.


GPO to only allow your meida specialists and IT staff install printers.
So room 222 gets the printer near it and no others. That narrows down
the attack footprint so to speak.

Get away from the generic accounts as much as possible.  7 thru 12 here
have to use their own account. There is a generic account for
emergencies, only the media specialist have that password and we change
it very often.

1-6 each building has a generic account that is changed each year.
Otherwise the 6th graders use the account in the jr highs..

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:38 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Who printed this?

 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
 default
 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
 adjusting
 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
 caused the students to find another one.

 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
 sending the job.

 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347

 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/


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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Bob Fronk
When I was in High School, we had a TRS-80.

Bob Fronk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:42 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Who printed this?
 
 Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts.
 
 No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?
 
 Christopher J. Bosak
 Vector Company
 c. 847.603.4673
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
 - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Who printed this?
 
 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
default
 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
adjusting
 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
 caused the students to find another one.
 
 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
 sending the job.
 
 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?
 
 
 
 
 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347
 
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM
In High School = High in School 

-Original Message-
From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Who printed this?

When I was in High School, we had a TRS-80.

Bob Fronk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:42 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Who printed this?
 
 Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts.
 
 No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?
 
 Christopher J. Bosak
 Vector Company
 c. 847.603.4673
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
 - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Who printed this?
 
 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
default
 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
adjusting
 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
 caused the students to find another one.
 
 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
 sending the job.
 
 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?
 
 
 
 
 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347
 
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
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Re: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Yup, me too Bob, good ole trash-80's.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I was in High School, we had a TRS-80.

 Bob Fronk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  -Original Message-
  From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:42 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Who printed this?
 
  Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts.
 
  No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?
 
  Christopher J. Bosak
  Vector Company
  c. 847.603.4673
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
  - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Who printed this?
 
  Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
  shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
 default
  permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
 adjusting
  permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
  caused the students to find another one.
 
  Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
  the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
  sending the job.
 
  Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?
 
 
 
 
  John Hornbuckle
  MIS Department
  Taylor County School District
  318 North Clark Street
  Perry, FL 32347
 
  www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
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Re: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Steve Ens
Apple IIe's in my school...high end Basic.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Yup, me too Bob, good ole trash-80's.


 On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  When I was in High School, we had a TRS-80.
 
  Bob Fronk
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:42 PM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: Who printed this?
  
   Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts.
  
   No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?
  
   Christopher J. Bosak
   Vector Company
   c. 847.603.4673
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
   - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me
  
   -Original Message-
   From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: Who printed this?
  
   Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
   shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
  default
   permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
  adjusting
   permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
   caused the students to find another one.
  
   Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
   the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
   sending the job.
  
   Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?
  
  
  
  
   John Hornbuckle
   MIS Department
   Taylor County School District
   318 North Clark Street
   Perry, FL 32347
  
   www.taylor.k12.fl.us
  
  
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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Thomas Gonzalez
 

 

 

This is U.S. History, I see the globe right there

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Who printed this?

 

In High School = High in School 

 

-Original Message-

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:19 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Who printed this?

 

When I was in High School, we had a TRS-80.

 

Bob Fronk

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

 -Original Message-

 From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:42 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: Who printed this?

 

 Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts.

 

 No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?

 

 Christopher J. Bosak

 Vector Company

 c. 847.603.4673

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.

 - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

 

 -Original Message-

 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: Who printed this?

 

 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any

 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the

default

 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by

adjusting

 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just

 caused the students to find another one.

 

 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending

 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine

 sending the job.

 

 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?

 

 

 

 

 John Hornbuckle

 MIS Department

 Taylor County School District

 318 North Clark Street

 Perry, FL 32347

 

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us

 

 

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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Reimer, Mark
You had computers?
 
Mark



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Who printed this?


Yup, me too Bob, good ole trash-80's.


On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


When I was in High School, we had a TRS-80.

Bob Fronk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:42 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Who printed this?


 Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts.

 No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?

 Christopher J. Bosak
 Vector Company
 c. 847.603.4673
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
 - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Who printed this?

 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print
to any
 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with
the
default
 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
adjusting
 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which
just
 caused the students to find another one.

 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's
sending
 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the
machine
 sending the job.

 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Bob Fronk
The key word here was a... as in one.

 

Bob Fronk

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

 

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Who printed this?

 

Apple IIe's in my school...high end Basic.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Yup, me too Bob, good ole trash-80's.

 

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When I was in High School, we had a TRS-80.

Bob Fronk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:42 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Who printed this?


 Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts.

 No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?

 Christopher J. Bosak
 Vector Company
 c. 847.603.4673
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
 - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Who printed this?

 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
default
 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
adjusting
 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
 caused the students to find another one.

 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
 sending the job.

 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Tom Strader
Yeah, that's what I say, PC's were non existent in High School in 1973
to 76.

 



From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Who printed this?

 

You had computers?

 

Mark

 



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Who printed this?

Yup, me too Bob, good ole trash-80's.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When I was in High School, we had a TRS-80.

Bob Fronk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:42 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Who printed this?


 Wow... when I was in HS we all had individual accounts.

 No computer name of who sent the print job in Event Viewer?

 Christopher J. Bosak
 Vector Company
 c. 847.603.4673
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.
 - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:38 hrs
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Who printed this?

 Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
 shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the
default
 permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by
adjusting
 permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
 caused the students to find another one.

 Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
 the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
 sending the job.

 Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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Arthur C. Clarke 

 

 

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RE: Who printed this?

2008-05-07 Thread Stu Sjouwerman
John,

This might be a solution to look at:

http://www.printmanagerplus.com/

Warm regards,

Stu 

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Who printed this?

Some of our students have just figured out that they can print to any
shared printer in their school (the printers are shared with the default
permissions that allow everyone to print). We can stop this by adjusting
permissions, which we did for one printer this morning--which just
caused the students to find another one.

Students share a common account, so knowing the account that's sending
the job won't help. I really need to know the name of the machine
sending the job.

Is there a way to do this? Does that get logged?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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