Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS [What is wrong]

[Indrawati(Iin)]

Ya kan udah beberapa hari naek 
jadi koreksi dululah  ngasih kesempatan buat yg
lom ngumpulin.

Lagian gasnya udh abis, lagi nungguin yang nganter :-)


  

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Blood of vengeance

[Indrawati(Iin)]

Today is just for short ... short ... and nge-short.
he he he. See ... almost 2500. he he he


--- James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> kl minta emang bisa kabulin nggak nih, kl nggak bisa
> penuhi yah
> percuma. OMDO ...
> 
> On 1/16/08, Elaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Do you want more?
> >
> > EL
> >  
> 



  

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: -3% for today?

[Indrawati(Iin)]

selain karena faktor indeks regional, ini juga karena
beberapa sekuritas melakukan forced sell. Tul gak?
jadinya market makin memble.

--- hst auto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> dikirain kita bakal takut yah..
> 
> saya pikir teman-teman disini semuanya smart... so
> enjoy aja lagi :)
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/16/08, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Apa beda koreksi dan bearish.
> >
> > Koreksi short term aja dalam koridor bullish
> sedangkan bearish take
> > very long man bisa 6-18 bulan. Kebayang capenya
> investor, buat swing,
> > scalper etc yah inilah opportunity tapi mesti
> punya waktu untuk
> > monitor
> >
> > On 1/16/08, oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just for guidance...
> > >
> > >  Hari ini adalah penurunan TERDALAM untuk minggu
> ini.
> > >  Tapi jangan harap ada rebound yg SIGNIFIKAN dlm
> wkt dekat, minim
> > >  sampe Jum'at.
> > >
> > >  Now,...let's fight...or sitting beautiful like
> Tukul said.
> > >
> > >  Good Luck!
> > >
> > >  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > *Today IHSG can get down to -3%. What a mess.
> 2400 in 3 days? -15%
> > >  in 2
> > >  > weeks? LOL why not.. seems lots haven't sell
> their portos..
> > >  >
> > >  > "Shut up, Elaine, you're talking bullshit"
> > >  > "I agree with Elaine, bring it ON"
> > >  >
> > >  > Some wants IHSG to go bullish all the time.
> Some wants to have at
> > >  cheapest
> > >  > price possible. There're always two sides of
> the story. Oh, this'd
> > >  be the
> > >  > last day for CPO and other plantation stocks
> glory. TAKE PROFIT,
> > >  that if you
> > >  > have any :)
> > >  >
> > >  > Just like Oentoeng said, there will be
> another entry point.
> > >  >
> > >  > EL
> > >  > *
> > >  >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 



  

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: I miss the big ones

[Indrawati(Iin)]

Gak sampai 2400, cukup 2500-an. Indeks kan juga pernah
seperti hari ini kejadiannya. Saya lupa, kalau gak
salah waktu menyentuh level tertinggi sekitar 2700-an,
indeks koreksi sampai level 2500.


--- jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Kalo sehari index turun 100 point, berarti ihsg 2400
> akan dicapai
> dalam 3 hari. ENGGA SEPERTI itu lah...
> 
> Masih ada 2 bulan lagi, buat SWING TRADING
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> "Indrawati\(Iin\)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > lha wong waktunya koreksi ya koreksilah 
> Lagian
> > udah beberapa hari terakhir ini BEI berusaha untuk
> > jadi jagoan neon ... Tenaga lama2 juga abis 
> > 
> > Klo udh begini bisa turun 200 - 300 poin
> > 
> > --- Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Ada money/funds outflows hari ini plus kebetulan
> > > Regional mere kabeh -
> > > beberapa sector/industry/class terjadi outflows
> > > mulai kemaren [i.e.infra,
> > > bankings] - setelah masup money/funds inflows
> > > beberapa lama [sejak awal Jan]
> > > ini
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >   _  
> > > 
> > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of Rei
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:16 PM
> > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Fw: [obrolan-bandar] Re: I miss the big
> > > ones
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Benar juga pak dgn ungkapan "memicu macan keluar
> > > dari kandang" 
> > > huehehehe
> > > 
> > > Jumlah anggota OB 5rb-an org, dan kesaktian Mbah
> sdh
> > > terbukti 
> > > berkali2 so dgn adanya prediksi Mbah hari ini
> bhw
> > > bursa akan turun 
> > > ke 2400-2450 dalam 2 bulan (2 BULAN lho bukan 2
> > > hari! :p), mungkin 
> > > banyak yg overreactive. Normal2 saja, index sdh
> > > tinggi & itu 
> > > membuktikan Mbah emang banyak pemerhatinya alias
> > > fans! hehehe... I 
> > > am one of them.
> > > 
> > > Salam,
> > > 
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@
> > > <mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > yahoogroups.com, Mince nensi Nensi Mince 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > kayak nya ini gara2 EMBAH yg bilang INDEX mau
> ke
> > > 2.400-2.500...
> > > > banyak yg panic selling sore ini..
> > > > 
> > > > padahal EROPA di buka ngak jelek2 banget...
> > > > dan ASIA ngak dalem2 amir itu sebelum kita
> merah
> > > dalem.
> > > > kayak nya BEI yg pimpin bursa asia jadi MERAH
> > > DALEM..
> > > > 
> > > > dari REGIONAL/GLOBAL ngak ada ISU/RUMOR yg
> bisa di
> > > jadikan alesan 
> > > > untk BALAPAN TURUN
> > > > 
> > > > di mana2 bursa NAIK/TURUN itu biasa tapi klu
> gini
> > > khan
> > > > memicu MACAN KELUAR DARI KANDANG UNTK SARAPAN.
> > > > 
> > > > hehehehe..
> > > > salam cash 100%
> > > > 
> > > > SPECIAL THANKS FOR CLUB BEAR
> > > > 
> > > > - Forwarded Message 
> > > > From: oentoeng_qq 
> > > > To: obrolan-bandar@
> > > <mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:04:38 PM
> > > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: I miss the big
> ones
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hahaha...
> > > > 
> > > > Yang jelas gue KAGAK PERNAH bilang benci ama
> ente
> > > lho...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Special TLKM, jauh hari saya bilang akan
> NYUNGSEP,
> > > malah ngasih 
> > > > 
> > > > saran kalau target riset CS di 9650 tercapai
> > > supaya AVRG DOWN 
> > > supaya 
> > > > 
> > > > cepat keluar jadi investor kacilakaan.
> > > > 
> > > > Kalau taget BOZZ yg saya tahu utk sementara
> adalah
> > > 9200-an dan 
> > > sudah 
> > 

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: I miss the big ones

[Indrawati(Iin)]

lha wong waktunya koreksi ya koreksilah  Lagian
udah beberapa hari terakhir ini BEI berusaha untuk
jadi jagoan neon ... Tenaga lama2 juga abis 

Klo udh begini bisa turun 200 - 300 poin

--- Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ada money/funds outflows hari ini plus kebetulan
> Regional mere kabeh -
> beberapa sector/industry/class terjadi outflows
> mulai kemaren [i.e.infra,
> bankings] - setelah masup money/funds inflows
> beberapa lama [sejak awal Jan]
> ini
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rei
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:16 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Fw: [obrolan-bandar] Re: I miss the big
> ones
> 
>  
> 
> Benar juga pak dgn ungkapan "memicu macan keluar
> dari kandang" 
> huehehehe
> 
> Jumlah anggota OB 5rb-an org, dan kesaktian Mbah sdh
> terbukti 
> berkali2 so dgn adanya prediksi Mbah hari ini bhw
> bursa akan turun 
> ke 2400-2450 dalam 2 bulan (2 BULAN lho bukan 2
> hari! :p), mungkin 
> banyak yg overreactive. Normal2 saja, index sdh
> tinggi & itu 
> membuktikan Mbah emang banyak pemerhatinya alias
> fans! hehehe... I 
> am one of them.
> 
> Salam,
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@
> 
> yahoogroups.com, Mince nensi Nensi Mince 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > kayak nya ini gara2 EMBAH yg bilang INDEX mau ke
> 2.400-2.500...
> > banyak yg panic selling sore ini..
> > 
> > padahal EROPA di buka ngak jelek2 banget...
> > dan ASIA ngak dalem2 amir itu sebelum kita merah
> dalem.
> > kayak nya BEI yg pimpin bursa asia jadi MERAH
> DALEM..
> > 
> > dari REGIONAL/GLOBAL ngak ada ISU/RUMOR yg bisa di
> jadikan alesan 
> > untk BALAPAN TURUN
> > 
> > di mana2 bursa NAIK/TURUN itu biasa tapi klu gini
> khan
> > memicu MACAN KELUAR DARI KANDANG UNTK SARAPAN.
> > 
> > hehehehe..
> > salam cash 100%
> > 
> > SPECIAL THANKS FOR CLUB BEAR
> > 
> > - Forwarded Message 
> > From: oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: obrolan-bandar@
> 
> yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:04:38 PM
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: I miss the big ones
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hahaha...
> > 
> > Yang jelas gue KAGAK PERNAH bilang benci ama ente
> lho...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Special TLKM, jauh hari saya bilang akan NYUNGSEP,
> malah ngasih 
> > 
> > saran kalau target riset CS di 9650 tercapai
> supaya AVRG DOWN 
> supaya 
> > 
> > cepat keluar jadi investor kacilakaan.
> > 
> > Kalau taget BOZZ yg saya tahu utk sementara adalah
> 9200-an dan 
> sudah 
> > 
> > tercapai HARI INI.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Peluang TLKM untuk jatuh LEBIH DALEM mestinya
> masih memungkinkan.
> > 
> > Alasannya indeks kita khan masih tinggi, btw
> secara TA, OBV 
> keliatan 
> > 
> > banget kalau kayak digelontor air BAH...
> > 
> > Kalau anda pengen nunggu harga 7-8K berarti
> PLANNED AGENDA mau 
> > 
> > menggiring indeks ke 2000 berarti akan BERJALAN
> BETULAN!?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Smell blood gimana? 
> > 
> > Bagi yg pegang SOBI hari ini malah bukan bau ANYIR
> malah HARUM
> > 
> > Buat yg pegang 100% CASH malah senyum2...
> > 
> > Sedangkan yg BERDARAH2 berarti mereka lupa dengan
> FA.
> > 
> > Bahwa kebanyakan TARGET maupun FAIR VALUE terutama
> BC sudah pada 
> > 
> > TERCAPAI...terus mo NGAPAIN LAGI?
> > 
> > Khan LEBIH ASYIK kalau dibuat turun, tambah DALEM
> tambah ASYIK.
> > 
> > Biar harga2 mereka menjAdi LEBIH MENARIK dan
> ATTRAKTIF
> > 
> > Ya nggak? Kalem aja
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Btw, obrolan di antara kita nggak usah ancam2an
> atau emosi segala.
> > 
> > Khan "sudah sama2 tahu", biar lebih asyik gitu
> lho...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Salam
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Elaine
>  
> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > *Let's talk about this "unreal business"... :) I
> smell blood, 
> and 
> > 
> > it's not
> > 
> > > mine. Now I ask for your comment. What is going
> on in the 
> > 
> > market... what did
> > 
> > > you do with TLKM? :D Clearly everyone HATES me
> so much, so maybe 
> > 
> > they'll
> > 
> > > listen to you. No, they hate me cuz they've
> LISTENED to 
> me..lol... 
> > 
> > sorry..
> > 
> > > just kidding.. I'm ready to have it at 7K-8K.
> > 
> > > 
> 
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[obrolan-bandar] hard landing

[Indrawati(Iin)]

okay everybody,
please take your seat belt...
we're gonna get hard landing

--- James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> time to short again on agri for 2 weeks
> 
> On 1/15/08, Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >carefull on cpo
> > NEW YORK TIMES today wrote:
> > In a sign of growing concern about the impact of
> supposedly "green"
> > policies,
> > European Union officials will propose a ban on
> imports of certain
> > biofuels,
> > according to a draft law to be unveiled next week.
> The ban would primarily
> > affect palm oil and possibly the Latin American
> imports.
> > If approved by European governments, the law would
> prohibit the
> > importation of
> > fuels derived from crops grown on certain kinds of
> land, including
> > forests,
> > wetlands or grasslands, into the 27-nation bloc.
> > HERE IS THE LINK:
> > *
> >
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/15/business/worldbusiness/15biofuel.html?ref=
> >
>
*business
> OUR
> > ANALYST, TING MIN TAN, SAYS:
> > - If EU were to ban palm-biodiesel, there could be
> a knee-jerk impact on
> > plantation stock prices but fundamentally, this
> measure will have a minimal
> > impact on underlying demand for palm oil. Any
> weakness in plantation share
> > prices is an opportunity to buy.
> > - This is because vegetable oils are substitutes
> of each other. Hence, if
> > palm-biodiesel is banned, palm oil will still be
> imported into the EU as
> > food. Vegetable oil prices move in tandem with one
> another, and as long as
> > EU moves ahead with its biofuel policies, veg oil
> inventories will continue
> > to be drawn down, and this will support palmoil
> prices.
> > - EU is the second largest importer of palm oil in
> the world (after China)
> > and the bulk of its ends up in food; it imports
> some 5mn tonnes or 13-14%%
> > of global CPO production.
> > - The Roundtable for Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO)
> has been set up to
> > address the "sustainability" issues. The RSPO will
> get an audit ready to
> > issue certification for plantation companies which
> adopt
> > environmentally-friendly practices. The large
> Malaysian and Indonesian
> > plantation companies are all members of RSPO and
> are generally complaint.
> > - We wrote an entire report on sustainability in
> Sept-2007. The report is
> > attached.
> >
> >
> > *Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >
> >  
>
http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/cfutures.html
> > Commodity Futures – UBS Bloomberg CMCI
> >  INDEX NAME
> >  VALUE
> >  CHANGE
> >  OPEN
> >  HIGH
> >  LOW
> >  TIME
> >   UBS BLOOMBERG CMCI
> >  1349.24
> >  17.92
> >  1345.02
> >  1355.16
> >  1343.43
> >  16:03
> >   S&P GSCI
> >  615.28
> >  9.44
> >  609.78
> >  616.42
> >  607.90
> >  01/14
> >   RJ/CRB Commodity
> >  370.22
> >  5.07
> >  365.15
> >  370.96
> >  365.15
> >  01/14
> >   Rogers Intl
> >  4541.70
> >  66.32
> >  4506.69
> >  4563.78
> >  4475.38
> >  17:36
> >   Brookshire Intl
> >  499.54
> >  7.42
> >  496.90
> >  499.80
> >  495.31
> >  17:12
> > Happy chuan,
> >  Aria
> >   --
> >  *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
> *Sriwisnu-gmail
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:07 AM
> > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Palm Oil naik terus -
> buat pertimbangan yang
> > belum beli CPO's Stocks
> >  *14.01.2008 - Closing Crude Palm Oil Quotes:*
> >  Closing CPO futures prices on Bursa Malaysia
> Derivatives in MYR/ton
> >  *Month*
> >  *Close*
> >  *Previous*
> >  *Change*
> >  *High*
> >  *Low*
> >  Jan '08
> >  3360
> >  3270
> >  *up 90*
> >  3360
> >  3320
> >  Feb '08
> >  3410
> >  3279
> >  *up 131*
> >  3410
> >  3320
> >  *Mar '08*
> >  *3414*
> >  *3280*
> >  *up 134*
> >  *3420*
> >  *3318*
> >  Apr '08
> >  3405
> >  3274
> >  *up 131*
> >  3413
> >  3313
> >  May '08
> >  3400
> >  3276
> >  *up 124*
> >  3401
> >  3306
> >  Trading volume totaled 19,530 lots Monday up from
> 15,261 lots on Friday.
> > Open interest totaled 42,015 lots, up from 40,830
> lots.
> >*14.01.2008 - Midday Closing Crude Palm Oil
> Quotes:*
> >  Midday Closing CPO futures prices on Bursa
> Malaysia Derivatives in
> > MYR/ton
> >  *Month*
> >  *Close*
> >  *Previous*
> >  *Change*
> >  *High*
> >  *Low*
> >  Jan '08
> >  3320
> >  3270
> >  *up 50*
> >  3320
> >  3320
> >  Feb' 08
> >  3330
> >  3279
> >  *up 51*
> >  3337
> >  3320
> >  *Mar '08*
> >  *3331*
> >  *3280*
> >  *up 51*
> >  *3342*
> >  *3318*
> >  Apr '08
> >  3325
> 
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[obrolan-bandar] TLKM nyungsep

[Indrawati(Iin)]

dear rekan OB,

knapa ya sama telkom? saya udh nggak pernh perhatiin
telkom lagi tuh, abis ... liat2 kebun lebih enak
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] buat mr oentung dan saham ke 10 ribu.

[Indrawati(Iin)]

UNVR, SMAR barangnya dikit jd klo naek cepet. Yg
lainnya barangnya segudang, jadi klo mo naek gak bisa
cepet2 ... abis kegendutan seh ..

--- adi kiswoyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear Sir,
> 
> Mr Oentung masih ingat beberapa vbulan lalu bilang
> ada
> saham yang dari 5000 - 6000 an akan terbang ke 10
> ribu.
> 
> ciri ciri nya saham yang mtembus new high duluan ke
> 7000 an.
> 
> pilihan saham nya, MEDC, SMGR, UNVR, PTRO, SMAR,
> BUMI,
> ANTM.
> 
> saya kelewat banget nich saham...
> 
> hari ini baru sadar SMAR tembus 10 ribu biarpun
> ditutup di 9000 an.
> 
> unvr baru tembus 7 ribu an hari ini...
> 
> pertanyaan sayaa apa cuma 1 sahaam aja yaitu SMAR?
> 
> atau masih ada saham lainnya?
> 
> nyseal aku ngak perhatikan saham saham ini beberapa
> hari lalu... 
> 
> thanks.
> 
> salam,
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJI closed down almost 2%

[Indrawati(Iin)]

ask, mantep bener yak?

--- TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> *Dow
>
**12,589.07**-238.42**-1.86%**[image:
> Chart for Dow]
> *
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