Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Recalling Circulating Items in 2.2

2012-05-17 Thread Dan Scott
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:41:43AM -0400, Jason Etheridge wrote:
  1. Run `hold_targeter.pl` (to trigger the event, including the change
    in fine levels and due date)
 
 On my master dev system, things work fine and I have no CRON entries
 for running the hold targeter.  Shouldn't the targeter being invoked
 automatically at time of hold placement suffice?

It should, indeed.

 Or is there a race
 condition there and the item may or may not get caught at that time?

Probably not. Given that things weren't working for Sally out of the
box, I looked for the next possible explanation instead of the simplest
possible and didn't even bother to check the results after my local
test. So maybe somebody with access to Sally's machine -- someone from
an Evergreen support company, perhaps? :) -- could poke at her OU
settings to see if anything is funky about the recall settings there.


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Recalling Circulating Items in 2.2

2012-05-17 Thread Jason Etheridge
 So maybe somebody with access to Sally's machine -- someone from
 an Evergreen support company, perhaps? :) -- could poke at her OU
 settings to see if anything is funky about the recall settings there.

I did, and nothing seemed funky.  I'm not ashamed to share my failure
with the list. :)

I could litter the perl with more log statements or attach a debugger
and see what I learn.  I may try that.

Thanks

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[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Interest Group Meeting Notes Posted

2012-05-17 Thread Turner, Jennifer M
Notes from the 2012 Evergreen Conference Reports Interest Group meeting have 
been posted: 
http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-reports:meetings:2012-04-25.

If you have any additions or corrections, please let me know - or just go ahead 
and make the change!

Thanks,
Jenny

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Universities | 507-389-2000



Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Questions about serials

2012-05-17 Thread Dan Wells
Hello Kathy,

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Hekman Library at Calvin College
616.526.7133


 On 5/17/2012 at 10:44 AM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org wrote:

 
 1. After setting up a subscription, creating a caption/prediction, 
 pattern, etc., we've noticed that when return to the OPAC view of the 
 record, select Actions for this Record  MFHD Holdings  Edit MFHD 
 record, there is now a MFHD record that appears to be editable (see 
 attached screenshot.)
 
...
 
 My question is whether I am suppose to be able to edit this 
 automatically-generated MFHD statement. If so, I can file a bug report, 
 but I just didn't know what the intended behavior is here.

Lebbeous is correct, you are not supposed to be able to edit the generated data 
directly, so the bug here is that the menu entry is added.  This same bug was 
found and fixed at one point (in JSPAC at least), and should be fairly simple 
to fix again.

 
 2. My understanding is that special issues can only be created via the 
 alternate serials control view. Is that still the case?
 

Special issues are still problematic for a number of reasons.  Creating them 
manually is cumbersome and error prone, especially if you have a lot of 
distributions and streams, and they frequently cause havoc when generating 
summaries.  The ability to create them was removed from the Serial Control View 
sometime during 2.0 alpha with the intention of making sure they worked 
properly top-to-bottom before including them, but we are going on two years of 
intending, so maybe pulling what we had at that time (despite its danger) 
was a little optimistic.

At any rate, we are surviving at my library with a workaround.  It doesn't 
solve the bigger underlying issues, but it is pretty easy and helps ensure good 
data, so I recommend it at this point regardless of which interface you are 
using.  Here are the steps:

1. Make sure you have at least *2* unreceived issuances generated which are 
chronologically after your special issue.
2. Carefully hijack your *last* predicted issuance, editing it to reflect the 
special issue data, paying particular attention to the date published.
3. (optional) Edit the 'Date expected' on the individual items attached to the 
issuance (which generally only matters if you are not receiving it right away). 
 If you use the Serial Control Items tab, you can edit them all at once.

That's it.  All of your distributions/streams are populated and everything is 
linked together properly.  The prediction code always predicts from the last 
issuance based on *date published*, so as long as you follow these steps, the 
issuance you hijacked will be recreated the next time you predict issues, 
because your current last issuance was (and will be) the one right before it. 
 Hopefully this makes at least some sense!

 
 4. This last question will probably turn into a bug report, but I just 
 want to understand the expected behavior before filing the bug. We have 
 libraries that prefer using something like most recent 5 years as the 
 textual holdings statement. I've been playing with the summary method 
 and have found that I can successfully do so by setting the summary 
 method to Use record entry only.
 
 However, I found that the remaining three options (add to record 
 entry, merge with record entry and do not use record entry) 
 generate the same display in tpac. It displays the holdings statement 
 automatically generated by Evergreen followed by the record entry. I'm 
 assuming that do not use record entry should not be displaying the 
 record entry at all. What is merge with record entry supposed to do?
 

To add to what Lebbeous said, in cases where the generated holdings are a 
direct continuation of the MFHD holdings, the merge setting is meant to 
detect that and therefore not display the break (that is, to use simple number 
ranges for example purposes, you should see 1-5 instead of 1-3,4-5).

Thanks for the questions and the (coming) bug reports!
Dan




Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Questions about serials

2012-05-17 Thread Kathy Lussier

Thank you Lebbeous and Dan for the quick responses! They were very helpful.

I'll be filing bugs in Launchpad soon.

Kathy

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Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 756-0172
(508) 755-3721 (fax)
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier



Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Questions about serials

2012-05-17 Thread Mary Llewellyn
Yes, thank you to Kathy for the question and the guys for the answers. We
plan to implement serials soon, so I'm squirreling away this exchange for
future reference.

Mary


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Kathy Lussier
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:25 PM
To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Questions about serials

Thank you Lebbeous and Dan for the quick responses! They were very helpful.

I'll be filing bugs in Launchpad soon.

Kathy

--

Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 756-0172
(508) 755-3721 (fax)
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier



[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] System Administration Interest Group IRC Meeting, Friday, May 18, 1:00 p.m. EDT - Reminder

2012-05-17 Thread Sharp, Chris
Good afternoon, everyone,

This is a reminder that there will be a meeting of community members interested 
in Evergreen system administration tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. EDT in the #evergreen 
IRC channel. All are welcome!

Please let me know if there's anything you're hoping to specifically cover.

Thanks,

Chris

- Forwarded Message -
 From: Chris Sharp csh...@georgialibraries.org
 To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
 Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 3:44:26 PM
 Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] System Administration Interest Group IRC Meeting, 
 Friday, May 18, 1:00 p.m. EDT
 
 Hi again all,
 
 There were 11 respondents to the Doodle poll and everyone was free on
 the afternoon of Friday, May 18th, so I've scheduled a 1:00 p.m.
 (EDT) meeting.  I will construct a loose agenda based on the
 discussions we've had here on the list, in IRC, and in person at the
 conference last week.  Please let me know (either privately or here
 on the list) if there's anything specific you'd like to cover.
 
 The meeting will be held in the #evergreen IRC channel on the
 FreeNode network.  Information about connecting to that channel is
 here:
 
 http://evergreen-ils.org/irc.php
 
 Thanks to all who responded!
 
 Chris
 
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 PINES Program Manager
 Georgia Public Library Service
 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
 Atlanta, Georgia 30345
 (404) 235-7147
 csh...@georgialibraries.org
 http://pines.georgialibraries.org/
 

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Georgia Public Library Service
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Atlanta, Georgia 30345
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csh...@georgialibraries.org
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