[openstack-dev] [keystone][all] v2.0 API removal

2017-10-19 Thread Lance Bragstad
Hey all,

Now that we're finishing up the last few bits of v2.0 removal, I'd like
to send out a reminder that *Queens* will not include the *v2.0 keystone
APIs* except the ec2-api. Authentication and validation of v2.0 tokens
has been removed (in addition to the public and admin APIs) after a
lengthy deprecation period.

Let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks!



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Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][all] v2.0 API removal

2017-10-19 Thread Alex Schultz
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Lance Bragstad  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Now that we're finishing up the last few bits of v2.0 removal, I'd like to
> send out a reminder that Queens will not include the v2.0 keystone APIs
> except the ec2-api. Authentication and validation of v2.0 tokens has been
> removed (in addition to the public and admin APIs) after a lengthy
> deprecation period.
>

In the future can we have a notice before the actual code removal
starts?  We've been battling various places where we thought we had
converted to v3 only to find out we hadn't correctly done so because
it use to just 'work' and the only way we know now is that CI blew up.
A heads up on the ML probably wouldn't have lessened the pain in this
instance but at least we might have been able to pinpoint the exact
problem quicker.

Thanks,
-Alex


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>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][all] v2.0 API removal

2017-10-19 Thread Lance Bragstad
Yeah - we specifically talked about this in a recent meeting [0]. We
will be more verbose about this in the future.


[0]
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-10-10-18.00.log.html#l-107

On 10/19/2017 12:00 PM, Alex Schultz wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Lance Bragstad  wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Now that we're finishing up the last few bits of v2.0 removal, I'd like to
>> send out a reminder that Queens will not include the v2.0 keystone APIs
>> except the ec2-api. Authentication and validation of v2.0 tokens has been
>> removed (in addition to the public and admin APIs) after a lengthy
>> deprecation period.
>>
> In the future can we have a notice before the actual code removal
> starts?  We've been battling various places where we thought we had
> converted to v3 only to find out we hadn't correctly done so because
> it use to just 'work' and the only way we know now is that CI blew up.
> A heads up on the ML probably wouldn't have lessened the pain in this
> instance but at least we might have been able to pinpoint the exact
> problem quicker.
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
>
>> Let us know if you have any questions.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][all] v2.0 API removal

2017-10-19 Thread Alex Schultz
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Lance Bragstad  wrote:
> Yeah - we specifically talked about this in a recent meeting [0]. We
> will be more verbose about this in the future.
>

I'm glad to see a review of this. In reading the meeting logs, I
understand it was well communicated that the api was going to go away
at some point. Yes we all knew it was coming, but the exact time of
impact wasn't known outside of Keystone.  Also saying "oh it works in
devstack" is not enough when you do something this major.   So a "FYI,
patches to remove v2.0 to start landing next week (or today)" is more
what would have been helpful for the devs who consume master.  It
dramatically shortens the time spent debugging failures if you have an
idea about when something major changes and then we don't have to go
through git logs/gerrit to figure out what happened :)

IMHO when large efforts that affect the usage of your service are
going to start to land, it's good to send a note before landing those
patches. Or at least at the same time. Anyway I hope other projects
will also follow a similar pattern when they ultimately need to do
something like this in the future.

Thanks,
-Alex

>
> [0]
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-10-10-18.00.log.html#l-107
>
> On 10/19/2017 12:00 PM, Alex Schultz wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Lance Bragstad  wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Now that we're finishing up the last few bits of v2.0 removal, I'd like to
>>> send out a reminder that Queens will not include the v2.0 keystone APIs
>>> except the ec2-api. Authentication and validation of v2.0 tokens has been
>>> removed (in addition to the public and admin APIs) after a lengthy
>>> deprecation period.
>>>
>> In the future can we have a notice before the actual code removal
>> starts?  We've been battling various places where we thought we had
>> converted to v3 only to find out we hadn't correctly done so because
>> it use to just 'work' and the only way we know now is that CI blew up.
>> A heads up on the ML probably wouldn't have lessened the pain in this
>> instance but at least we might have been able to pinpoint the exact
>> problem quicker.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Alex
>>
>>
>>> Let us know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][all] v2.0 API removal

2017-10-19 Thread Yaguang Tang
Keystone is one project that all other OpenStack projects use, so
personally I think the change to remove the API which are widely used
should be discussed at TC meeting .

As far as I know ,not all OpenStack projects support the keystone v3 domain
(domain, project,user) as well as keystone, you can see the policy.json of
each project to check.
most of projects have no domain specified role API.

I'd ask how much effort do we need to maintain the keystone v2 api ? can we
just keep the code there?

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Alex Schultz  wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Lance Bragstad 
> wrote:
> > Yeah - we specifically talked about this in a recent meeting [0]. We
> > will be more verbose about this in the future.
> >
>
> I'm glad to see a review of this. In reading the meeting logs, I
> understand it was well communicated that the api was going to go away
> at some point. Yes we all knew it was coming, but the exact time of
> impact wasn't known outside of Keystone.  Also saying "oh it works in
> devstack" is not enough when you do something this major.   So a "FYI,
> patches to remove v2.0 to start landing next week (or today)" is more
> what would have been helpful for the devs who consume master.  It
> dramatically shortens the time spent debugging failures if you have an
> idea about when something major changes and then we don't have to go
> through git logs/gerrit to figure out what happened :)
>
> IMHO when large efforts that affect the usage of your service are
> going to start to land, it's good to send a note before landing those
> patches. Or at least at the same time. Anyway I hope other projects
> will also follow a similar pattern when they ultimately need to do
> something like this in the future.
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> >
> > [0]
> > http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/
> keystone.2017-10-10-18.00.log.html#l-107
> >
> > On 10/19/2017 12:00 PM, Alex Schultz wrote:
> >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Lance Bragstad 
> wrote:
> >>> Hey all,
> >>>
> >>> Now that we're finishing up the last few bits of v2.0 removal, I'd
> like to
> >>> send out a reminder that Queens will not include the v2.0 keystone APIs
> >>> except the ec2-api. Authentication and validation of v2.0 tokens has
> been
> >>> removed (in addition to the public and admin APIs) after a lengthy
> >>> deprecation period.
> >>>
> >> In the future can we have a notice before the actual code removal
> >> starts?  We've been battling various places where we thought we had
> >> converted to v3 only to find out we hadn't correctly done so because
> >> it use to just 'work' and the only way we know now is that CI blew up.
> >> A heads up on the ML probably wouldn't have lessened the pain in this
> >> instance but at least we might have been able to pinpoint the exact
> >> problem quicker.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >>
> >>> Let us know if you have any questions.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
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