Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Jonathan Arsenault]

On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 15:47 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> On 5/1/07, Cristian Rodriguez R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Alexey Eremenko escribió:
> > >What interests me is that third-party
> > > software refuses to run due to bug in openSUSE.
> >
> > Please, stop flooding bugzilla with this kind of stuff.. this is a
> > really minor problem ..indeed, the library SONAME is outdated (maybe on
> > purpose, to avoid break applications linked to that version), however
> > this is no problem to properly compiled software, even more when
> > software has source code available.
> >
> ok, so let's at least provide the correct symlink, if you say that the
> package is ok.

What are you talking about ?! There is no symlink to be provided
there...

Is it that hard for you yo understand that since the library has changed
thing depending on it will need to be rebuild, and as far as the soname
goes there is no reason why the programmer of a library *have* to update
it at each version.. should have *if* it break compatibility with old
binary, but this ain't really our problem.

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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Alexey Eremenko]

On 5/1/07, Cristian Rodriguez R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Alexey Eremenko escribió:
>What interests me is that third-party
> software refuses to run due to bug in openSUSE.

Please, stop flooding bugzilla with this kind of stuff.. this is a
really minor problem ..indeed, the library SONAME is outdated (maybe on
purpose, to avoid break applications linked to that version), however
this is no problem to properly compiled software, even more when
software has source code available.


ok, so let's at least provide the correct symlink, if you say that the
package is ok.


Alexey, I see you have a lot of energy and time to do something for
openSUSE, try to focus your energy better,in productive, useful things
rather than in this and other pointless stuff..it just makes people to
waste their time.


Yes, I have some time now (some months are free), so I have focues on
Lessons for Lizards (LfL), and wrote the majority of the book. (over
50% content are my articles), and now I have started the AppArmored
FireFox thing... you're welcome too...

for AppArmored FireFox check in openSUSE bugzilla, and for LfL link is here:
http://en.opensuse.org/Documentation
since i'm not a programmer, I cannot improve the code directly, but I
do a lot of beta-testing, user support, and other things that are kind
of invisible.

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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Cristian Rodriguez R.]

Alexey Eremenko escribió:
>What interests me is that third-party
> software refuses to run due to bug in openSUSE.

Please, stop flooding bugzilla with this kind of stuff.. this is a
really minor problem ..indeed, the library SONAME is outdated (maybe on
purpose, to avoid break applications linked to that version), however
this is no problem to properly compiled software, even more when
software has source code available.

just to prove you are wrong, I created in 15 minutes, a package of the
mentioned "dynamips" software  you can (or will be able to) find it here:

http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2/


Third party binaries are not an openSUSE problem.

Alexey, I see you have a lot of energy and time to do something for
openSUSE, try to focus your energy better,in productive, useful things
rather than in this and other pointless stuff..it just makes people to
waste their time.





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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Alexey Eremenko]

the source rpm contains the version 0.9.4, and the specfile is quite
straightforward. I would think that you might want to rebuild the rpm and
see for yourself. There is a newer version 0.9.5 available on the project's
website http://www.tcpdump.org/. Maybe that will help with your problems.


The SRPM does *NOT* interest me. What interests me is that third-party
software refuses to run due to bug in openSUSE.


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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Andreas]

Le Montag, 30. April 2007, Alexey Eremenko a écrit :
> I have a one little question: WHAT THE HELL !?!?
>
> openSUSE 10.2 contains package called "libpcap-0.9.4-30" but
> internally it has a library of a previous version !
> "/usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.9.3" !!! Because of this some programs refuse
> to run !
>
> opensuse:/E/Lin-Install # rpm -ql libpcap
> /usr/include/pcap-bpf.h
> /usr/include/pcap-namedb.h
> /usr/include/pcap.h
> /usr/lib/libpcap.a
> /usr/lib/libpcap.so
> /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0
> /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.9.3
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/CHANGES
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/CREDITS
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/INSTALL.txt
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/LICENSE
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.Win32
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.aix
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.dag
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.hpux
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.linux
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.macosx
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.septel
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.tru64
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/TODO
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/pcap.html
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/pcap.txt
> /usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/pcap.xml
> /usr/share/man/man3/pcap.3.gz
>
> Futher testing shows me that this is the library, not a symlink, as I
> thought before !
>
> opensuse:/E/Lin-Install # file /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.9.3
> /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.9.3: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386,
> version 1 (SYSV), stripped
> opensuse:/E/Lin-Install # ll /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.9.3
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 158960 2006-11-25 12:19 /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.9.3
>
>
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Alexey,
the source rpm contains the version 0.9.4, and the specfile is quite 
straightforward. I would think that you might want to rebuild the rpm and 
see for yourself. There is a newer version 0.9.5 available on the project's 
website http://www.tcpdump.org/. Maybe that will help with your problems.

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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Magnus Boman]

Alexey,

On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 03:00 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> Magnus:
> I have meant: "What the hell is going here with the packages"

Sure, but is that sort of language really needed to make a point? Don't
you honestly think that people are more inclined to help if the question
is asked politely?

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Cheers,
Magnus


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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Alexey Eremenko]

Magnus:
I have meant: "What the hell is going here with the packages"

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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Pueblo Native]

Magnus Boman wrote:
> Alexey,
>
> On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 02:15 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
>   
>> I have a one little question: WHAT THE HELL !?!?
>> 
>
> I'm not sure I understand your question. Do you mean "Where is hell" or
> perhaps "What is hell"?
> The best I can do for you with regards to your question is to point you
> to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell
>
> HTH,
> Magnus
>
>   
And with a off-topic, if humorous post, here's another deep question
about the netherworld. http://www.pinetree.net/humor/thermodynamics.html
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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Magnus Boman]

On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 02:40 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> > bugzilla.novell.com is for technical issues regarding Novell/SUSE
> > products. Not a place where you will find answers to your religious
> > questions. So ignoring the fact that you have this religious issue in
> > that bug report, I also see that there's an issue with libpcap, so I
> > wont close it.
> > In the future, please only report one issue per bug report.
> 
> Well, actually I have only 1 issue - the technical one - that my
> affect other susers. (=SUSE users)
> The religious issue with the word "hell" is my personal
> misunderstanding, not everyone else's problem.

Good. So I hope we wont see you adding your religious questions to this
list and bugzilla in the future then.

> 
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Cheers,
Magnus

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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Alexey Eremenko]

bugzilla.novell.com is for technical issues regarding Novell/SUSE
products. Not a place where you will find answers to your religious
questions. So ignoring the fact that you have this religious issue in
that bug report, I also see that there's an issue with libpcap, so I
wont close it.
In the future, please only report one issue per bug report.


Well, actually I have only 1 issue - the technical one - that my
affect other susers. (=SUSE users)
The religious issue with the word "hell" is my personal
misunderstanding, not everyone else's problem.

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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Magnus Boman]

Alexey,

On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 02:29 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> opened bug report:
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=270226

bugzilla.novell.com is for technical issues regarding Novell/SUSE
products. Not a place where you will find answers to your religious
questions. So ignoring the fact that you have this religious issue in
that bug report, I also see that there's an issue with libpcap, so I
wont close it.
In the future, please only report one issue per bug report.

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Cheers,
Magnus

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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Alexey Eremenko]

opened bug report:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=270226

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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

[Magnus Boman]

Alexey,

On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 02:15 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> I have a one little question: WHAT THE HELL !?!?

I'm not sure I understand your question. Do you mean "Where is hell" or
perhaps "What is hell"?
The best I can do for you with regards to your question is to point you
to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell

HTH,
Magnus


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