Re: OT - RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-21 Thread jhawkins 

I'll concede on the users for dietary purposes, but I will not budge on the 
Windows OS...frustration can only lead to chaos and violence.  Besides, 
this is supposed to be Utopia!

> I disagree with the restriction of no users.  After all, what better 
dietary
> plan than "all the users you can catch, kill, and eat!"  Otherwise, I'm 
in.
> I can haul some of our ordinance in my F-150 - it'll even be dry with the
> hardtop on the bed...
> 
> Scott Shafer
> San Antonio, TX
> 210-581-6217
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Friday, May 18, 2001 2:56 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject:RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
> > 
> > That sounds great!  So far it's me, you, and Kevin.  I think the three 
of 
> > us can take the island.  I drive a Land Rover, so I'll bring it.  Once 
we 
> > have raised our flag at HQ and have all the locals assimilated, we can
> > send 
> > for our families.  I like the idea of naming the natives with 
keywords.  I
> > 
> > guess for the really important ones, we can use the background 
> > processes..."Hey SMON, what's good to eat around here?  No PMON, we 
don't 
> > eat grub worms..."
> > 
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but was it you that had a Canuck brother that 
can
> > 
> > assist with the beer brewing?  We may need him on the operation as 
well.  
> > I've got 5 gallons of a Bass Ale clone in the secondary fermenter as we 
> > speak.  Once we establish beachhead and HQ, we must organize the locals 
to
> > 
> > set up the brewery.  Instead of a monetary society, all transactions 
shall
> > 
> > be bound by beer...this is going to be a great place!
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > >  LoL!!  I like the idea of airlifting in our Urban
> > > Assault Vehicles. We can establish a beachhead at 0600.
> > > Recon should take the better part of the morning, and we
> > > can spend the rest of the time indoctrinating the locals.
> > > 
> > > Let's rename each of the natives with a keyword from the Oracle
> > > reserved keyword list. Then, we could reward them when they
> > > unwittingly line up in a syntactically correct fashion. 
> > 
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RE: OT - RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-21 Thread Christopher Spence 

I tend to agree, don't steal if you don't want to loose your hand.

But I think if it is less than $5 you should only loose a finger.

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Blame Canada!  

Seriously, you won't lose a hand in Saudi if you don't steal.  If you can't
handle the consequence, don't do the crime.  Its not a bad law - it just
needs to be enforced in a transparent, rule-of-law judicial system.

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

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> Subject:  RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
> 
> 
> I think each country has pretty sides and bad sides. Weather in Saudi
> Arabia is perfect compared with Germany, but loosing the hand for the case
> you steel something worth of five bucks? Redicilous and not a good sign
> for
> tolerance and respecting each other in general. I know western cultures
> are
> looking like sinners in their eyes, but they should watch their garden
> first. A Society with nearby unlimited resources like the Saudi´s can
> easily effort everything what makes life easy.
> Everyone should decide on his own, where it is safe and ok to live. I
> would
> like to live in the USA, but as i have family, my wife is strictly against
> it. Know why? The same number of people killed in Germany by Car
> accidents,
> is killed in the Staates by gun bullets. So, decision is easy, i guess.
> And stop blaming Canada, nice area. In my eyes, ok?
> 
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OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-21 Thread Scott . Shafer 

How about "User Pot Pie"?

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

> -Original Message-
> From: Glasrot, Nechama [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 3:53 PM
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> Subject:      RE: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
> 
> can we go back to the friday afternoon recipe of the week instead of lots
> of
> i'm right/you're wrong ... 
> 
> Nechama Glasrot
> ).
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OT - RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-21 Thread Scott . Shafer 

I disagree with the restriction of no users.  After all, what better dietary
plan than "all the users you can catch, kill, and eat!"  Otherwise, I'm in.
I can haul some of our ordinance in my F-150 - it'll even be dry with the
hardtop on the bed...

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:56 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
> 
> That sounds great!  So far it's me, you, and Kevin.  I think the three of 
> us can take the island.  I drive a Land Rover, so I'll bring it.  Once we 
> have raised our flag at HQ and have all the locals assimilated, we can
> send 
> for our families.  I like the idea of naming the natives with keywords.  I
> 
> guess for the really important ones, we can use the background 
> processes..."Hey SMON, what's good to eat around here?  No PMON, we don't 
> eat grub worms..."
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but was it you that had a Canuck brother that can
> 
> assist with the beer brewing?  We may need him on the operation as well.  
> I've got 5 gallons of a Bass Ale clone in the secondary fermenter as we 
> speak.  Once we establish beachhead and HQ, we must organize the locals to
> 
> set up the brewery.  Instead of a monetary society, all transactions shall
> 
> be bound by beer...this is going to be a great place!
> 
> Jim
> 
> >  LoL!!  I like the idea of airlifting in our Urban
> > Assault Vehicles. We can establish a beachhead at 0600.
> > Recon should take the better part of the morning, and we
> > can spend the rest of the time indoctrinating the locals.
> > 
> > Let's rename each of the natives with a keyword from the Oracle
> > reserved keyword list. Then, we could reward them when they
> > unwittingly line up in a syntactically correct fashion. 
> 
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OT - RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-21 Thread Scott . Shafer 

Blame Canada!  

Seriously, you won't lose a hand in Saudi if you don't steal.  If you can't
handle the consequence, don't do the crime.  Its not a bad law - it just
needs to be enforced in a transparent, rule-of-law judicial system.

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:51 AM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
> 
> 
> I think each country has pretty sides and bad sides. Weather in Saudi
> Arabia is perfect compared with Germany, but loosing the hand for the case
> you steel something worth of five bucks? Redicilous and not a good sign
> for
> tolerance and respecting each other in general. I know western cultures
> are
> looking like sinners in their eyes, but they should watch their garden
> first. A Society with nearby unlimited resources like the Saudi´s can
> easily effort everything what makes life easy.
> Everyone should decide on his own, where it is safe and ok to live. I
> would
> like to live in the USA, but as i have family, my wife is strictly against
> it. Know why? The same number of people killed in Germany by Car
> accidents,
> is killed in the Staates by gun bullets. So, decision is easy, i guess.
> And stop blaming Canada, nice area. In my eyes, ok?
> 
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OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-18 Thread Jacques Kilchoer 
Title: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA





> -Original Message-
> From: Gene Sais [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> Statistically, states where handguns are legal are the states 
> where violent crimes are less.  Criminals prefer easy 
> victims.  Outlaw handguns and only Outlaws will have them.  Check out:
> 
> http://www.tsra.com/LottPage.htm 
> 


I'll just mention that the issue, like most issues, is not as simple as that.


John Lott has published some studies indicating crime drops following concealed-carry laws in some areas, but numerous critics have pointed out that changes in crime rates involve a very complex mix of lots of factors, and Lott himself acknowledges that much more work needs to be done to make the results conclusive. And that still wouldn't settle the question of how we should balance the increased deterrent effects of having more guns around (if indeed they exist) with the increased dangers of other kinds (more gun thefts, more gun accidents, more casualties of non-criminal conflicts) that we might get from having more guns around. 

 

RE: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-18 Thread Glasrot, Nechama 

can we go back to the friday afternoon recipe of the week instead of lots of
i'm right/you're wrong ... 

Nechama Glasrot
Oracle DBA
Seisint, Inc.
6601 Park of Commerce Blvd. 
Boca Raton, Florida 33487 
nglasrot @seisint.com <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
Direct 561.999.3977
Main 561.999.4400
Fax 561.999.4695
 


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geez louise guys!  take it far back enough and EVERYONE has to leave here...

I'm only second generation American.

And Ross IS from this country so exactly where is he supposed to go back

to?

1st Amendment: freedom of speech. Doesn't mean you have to like what the 
other says, you just have to let them say it.



>From: Rocky Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
>Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 06:56:47 -0800
>
>I'm not upset, Ross. Being from the most powerful (thanks to our fine
>people in the military), and generous (thanks to everyone), nation on
>earth we are used to being critizied by the nations we help (the dog that
>bites the hand that feeds it). I'm simply pointing out a fact that you
>seem to have overlooked. No one is forcing you to stay here and there
>certainly was no national vote to invite you to come. This is obviously a
>better place to be than your own country, for whatever reason, otherwise
>you wouldn't be here.
>Enjoy the freedoms and luxury given to you by the great people of this
>nation this weekend and keep your head down!
>
>AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL!
>
>--- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Not sorry if I touched a nerve, Rocky.
> >
> > That's what it's all about. It's democracy,
> > suck it up, or spit it out.
> >
> >
> > || -Original Message-----
> > || From: Rocky Welch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > || Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 4:36 PM
> > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > || Subject: Re: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
> > ||
> > ||
> > || And freedom to leave the country any time you wish. Have a
> > || nice flight.
> > ||
> > || --- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > || > 
> > || >
> > || > ep,
> > || >
> > || > Any idiot can see we're the freest country in the world!
> > || > Free to do what is expected, or get thrown in jail at a
> > || > rate exceeding most other "civilized" nations. Free to
> > || > subsidize tobacco and alcohol (and related deaths) and
> > || > throw "dangerous criminals" in jail for using cannabis.
> > || > Free to have almost the highest teenage pregnancy rate
> > || > in the world. Free to fight for your rights just as long
> > || > as your money lasts! Free to buy as much of whatever you
> > || > want until the money, environment, or patience of the
> > || > less fortunate runs out.
> > || >
> > || > So much freedom, you could almost choke on it.
> > || >
> > || > Come on, you commie, admit it: you just stay here for
> > || > the Burgers and Coca-Cola!
> > || >
> > || > "You have no chance to survive make your time"
> > || >
> > || > rm
> > || >
> > || > p.s. If you want to reach me, I'll be in the prayer meeting
> > || > John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, now holds each morning
> > || > inside the Department of Justice.
> > || >
> > || > 
> > || >
> > || > || -Original Message-
> > || > || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > || > || Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:07 PM
> > || > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > || > || Subject: Re: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
> > || > ||
> > || > ||
> > || > || Many professional women in the USA have found it necessary to
> > || > || purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal
> > || elements in
> > || > || public places. Children are constantly under
> > || psychological assault
> > || > || being exposed to media violence. The "liberal"
> > || education system is
> > || > || devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless "PC"
> > || relativism,
> > || > || materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant
> > || > || dismissal).
> > || > ||
> > || > || Western "freedoms" can be seen from a variety of persp

RE: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-18 Thread Mohan, Ross 

 Spoken like a gentlemen, which is more than
I found momentarily capable of. I not only 
rest my case, but withdraw it for considerable
rework.

- Ross

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sent: 5/18/2001 2:31 PM

Thanks for this response. I rest my case.

-Rocky

--- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> || -Original Message-
> || From: Rocky Welch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> || Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:57 AM
> || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> || Subject: I am such a freaking ignorant redneck!
> || 
> || 
> || I'm not upset, Ross. Being from the most powerful (thanks to 
> || our fine people in the military), 
> 
> "Might makes Right" is that it, Rocky? I think we're 
> powerful due to our ideas, noble efforts at protection 
> of human rights, and intellectual freedoms. 
> 
> || and generous (thanks to everyone), nation on earth 
> || we are used to being critizied 
> 
> Feeling put upon this morning, are we?
> 
> || by the nations we help 
> 
> I strongly suspect you couldn't quote foreign aid figures if 
> the WWF went off the air for two weeks and your neighbor's 
> newspaper blew into your home theater. You personally spent 
> about $30 last year in taxes on "foreign aid"; probably one 
> night's bar tab for you unless they were having a "Two for One" 
> Budweiser special in your trailer park. 
> 
> 
> || (the dog that bites the hand that feeds it). I'm simply 
> || pointing out a fact that you seem to have overlooked. No 
> || one is forcing you to stay here 
> 
> Quite correct. As you have noted, it is the free-est of all 
> possible free countries. Unless, of course, I am in jail on
> an FBI case where they are holding back documents from the 
> prosecution. (That was in the newspapers, too.) 
> 
> || and there certainly was no national vote to invite you to come. 
> 
> ROFL!!!  As if "a national vote" would make a difference!  
> Based on recent events, I could get the popular vote and 
> still lose. For example, your guy actually lost, and still got
> installed.
> 
> || This is obviously a better place to be than your own country, 
> 
> Oops, yet another sadly uninformed opinion. Didn't Rush Limbaugh 
> cover my nationality on his talk show? Maybe you missed it 
> while you were watching Dr. Laura's special with Oliver North, 
> your Brother in Spirit?
> 
> || for whatever reason, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Enjoy the 
> || freedoms and luxury given to you by the great people of this nation

> 
> I'll be sure to pat myself on the back, Rocky. 
> 
> || this weekend and keep your head down! 
> 
> Oh? Are you related to Dylan Klebold? Planning to lynch someone?
> (That was in the paper, too. You might have missed it during your 
> Klan Rally. ) 
> 
> Tell me something, Rocky. Are you one of those guys who "proudly 
> fights for our freedom" as long as he agrees with you? Or, are 
> you the "onestep over the line, and POW!" vigilante justice type 
> of guy?  
> 
> Well, I have to go now, Rocky. I have a bunch of fish to shoot in
> a barrel -- a significantly harder task than finding the flaws in
> your screed.  You have a nice day. 
> 
> 
> || 
> || AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL!
> 
> p.s.  Yes, She is beautiful. Just think of what a glory She could 
>be like if people like you were better informed. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-18 Thread Thater, William 

On Fri, 18 May 2001,Rocky Welch scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

->Thanks for this response. I rest my case.
->
->-Rocky

Ladies and Gentlemen:

It appears that this issue has in fact become a bit derisive.  I do understand that 
you may wish to resolve it but I request that you do so among yourselves.

I do understand the rights of each of you to express your opinions.  I have, in fact, 
done my part to uphold those rights. [Navy SEAL Nam 4 years, 3 Purple Hearts, 2 Silver 
Stars, DSC.  Post Nam, a number of years of alcohol and drug abuse.] But this is in 
fact a technical list.  And yes I am aware I have contributed to the silliness present 
here on more than one occasion, a fact Jared has reminded me of.;-)  Yes I should 
contribute more technological information, except you are mostly all much smarter than 
I am.

IMHO, this discussion will not lead us to any productive conclusion so I make my 
request to continue in private email.

Thank you.
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RE: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-18 Thread Rachel Carmichael 

geez louise guys!  take it far back enough and EVERYONE has to leave here...

I'm only second generation American.

And Ross IS from this country so exactly where is he supposed to go back 
to?

1st Amendment: freedom of speech. Doesn't mean you have to like what the 
other says, you just have to let them say it.



>From: Rocky Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
>Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 06:56:47 -0800
>
>I'm not upset, Ross. Being from the most powerful (thanks to our fine
>people in the military), and generous (thanks to everyone), nation on
>earth we are used to being critizied by the nations we help (the dog that
>bites the hand that feeds it). I'm simply pointing out a fact that you
>seem to have overlooked. No one is forcing you to stay here and there
>certainly was no national vote to invite you to come. This is obviously a
>better place to be than your own country, for whatever reason, otherwise
>you wouldn't be here.
>Enjoy the freedoms and luxury given to you by the great people of this
>nation this weekend and keep your head down!
>
>AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL!
>
>--- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Not sorry if I touched a nerve, Rocky.
> >
> > That's what it's all about. It's democracy,
> > suck it up, or spit it out.
> >
> >
> > || -Original Message-----
> > || From: Rocky Welch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > || Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 4:36 PM
> > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > || Subject: Re: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
> > ||
> > ||
> > || And freedom to leave the country any time you wish. Have a
> > || nice flight.
> > ||
> > || --- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > || > 
> > || >
> > || > ep,
> > || >
> > || > Any idiot can see we're the freest country in the world!
> > || > Free to do what is expected, or get thrown in jail at a
> > || > rate exceeding most other "civilized" nations. Free to
> > || > subsidize tobacco and alcohol (and related deaths) and
> > || > throw "dangerous criminals" in jail for using cannabis.
> > || > Free to have almost the highest teenage pregnancy rate
> > || > in the world. Free to fight for your rights just as long
> > || > as your money lasts! Free to buy as much of whatever you
> > || > want until the money, environment, or patience of the
> > || > less fortunate runs out.
> > || >
> > || > So much freedom, you could almost choke on it.
> > || >
> > || > Come on, you commie, admit it: you just stay here for
> > || > the Burgers and Coca-Cola!
> > || >
> > || > "You have no chance to survive make your time"
> > || >
> > || > rm
> > || >
> > || > p.s. If you want to reach me, I'll be in the prayer meeting
> > || > John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, now holds each morning
> > || > inside the Department of Justice.
> > || >
> > || > 
> > || >
> > || > || -Original Message-
> > || > || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > || > || Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:07 PM
> > || > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > || > || Subject: Re: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
> > || > ||
> > || > ||
> > || > || Many professional women in the USA have found it necessary to
> > || > || purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal
> > || elements in
> > || > || public places. Children are constantly under
> > || psychological assault
> > || > || being exposed to media violence. The "liberal"
> > || education system is
> > || > || devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless "PC"
> > || relativism,
> > || > || materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant
> > || > || dismissal).
> > || > ||
> > || > || Western "freedoms" can be seen from a variety of perspectives.
> > || > ||
> > || > ||
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OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-18 Thread Mohan, Ross 

|| -Original Message-
|| From: Rocky Welch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|| Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:57 AM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: I am such a freaking ignorant redneck!
|| 
|| 
|| I'm not upset, Ross. Being from the most powerful (thanks to 
|| our fine people in the military), 

"Might makes Right" is that it, Rocky? I think we're 
powerful due to our ideas, noble efforts at protection 
of human rights, and intellectual freedoms. 

|| and generous (thanks to everyone), nation on earth 
|| we are used to being critizied 

Feeling put upon this morning, are we?

|| by the nations we help 

I strongly suspect you couldn't quote foreign aid figures if 
the WWF went off the air for two weeks and your neighbor's 
newspaper blew into your home theater. You personally spent 
about $30 last year in taxes on "foreign aid"; probably one 
night's bar tab for you unless they were having a "Two for One" 
Budweiser special in your trailer park. 


|| (the dog that bites the hand that feeds it). I'm simply 
|| pointing out a fact that you seem to have overlooked. No 
|| one is forcing you to stay here 

Quite correct. As you have noted, it is the free-est of all 
possible free countries. Unless, of course, I am in jail on
an FBI case where they are holding back documents from the 
prosecution. (That was in the newspapers, too.) 

|| and there certainly was no national vote to invite you to come. 

ROFL!!!  As if "a national vote" would make a difference!  
Based on recent events, I could get the popular vote and 
still lose. For example, your guy actually lost, and still got installed.

|| This is obviously a better place to be than your own country, 

Oops, yet another sadly uninformed opinion. Didn't Rush Limbaugh 
cover my nationality on his talk show? Maybe you missed it 
while you were watching Dr. Laura's special with Oliver North, 
your Brother in Spirit?

|| for whatever reason, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Enjoy the 
|| freedoms and luxury given to you by the great people of this nation 

I'll be sure to pat myself on the back, Rocky. 

|| this weekend and keep your head down! 

Oh? Are you related to Dylan Klebold? Planning to lynch someone?
(That was in the paper, too. You might have missed it during your 
Klan Rally. ) 

Tell me something, Rocky. Are you one of those guys who "proudly 
fights for our freedom" as long as he agrees with you? Or, are 
you the "onestep over the line, and POW!" vigilante justice type 
of guy?  

Well, I have to go now, Rocky. I have a bunch of fish to shoot in
a barrel -- a significantly harder task than finding the flaws in
your screed.  You have a nice day. 


|| 
|| AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL!

p.s.  Yes, She is beautiful. Just think of what a glory She could 
 be like if people like you were better informed. 







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Re: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-18 Thread Rocky Welch 

Thanks for this response. I rest my case.

-Rocky

--- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> || -Original Message-
> || From: Rocky Welch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> || Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:57 AM
> || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> || Subject: I am such a freaking ignorant redneck!
> || 
> || 
> || I'm not upset, Ross. Being from the most powerful (thanks to 
> || our fine people in the military), 
> 
> "Might makes Right" is that it, Rocky? I think we're 
> powerful due to our ideas, noble efforts at protection 
> of human rights, and intellectual freedoms. 
> 
> || and generous (thanks to everyone), nation on earth 
> || we are used to being critizied 
> 
> Feeling put upon this morning, are we?
> 
> || by the nations we help 
> 
> I strongly suspect you couldn't quote foreign aid figures if 
> the WWF went off the air for two weeks and your neighbor's 
> newspaper blew into your home theater. You personally spent 
> about $30 last year in taxes on "foreign aid"; probably one 
> night's bar tab for you unless they were having a "Two for One" 
> Budweiser special in your trailer park. 
> 
> 
> || (the dog that bites the hand that feeds it). I'm simply 
> || pointing out a fact that you seem to have overlooked. No 
> || one is forcing you to stay here 
> 
> Quite correct. As you have noted, it is the free-est of all 
> possible free countries. Unless, of course, I am in jail on
> an FBI case where they are holding back documents from the 
> prosecution. (That was in the newspapers, too.) 
> 
> || and there certainly was no national vote to invite you to come. 
> 
> ROFL!!!  As if "a national vote" would make a difference!  
> Based on recent events, I could get the popular vote and 
> still lose. For example, your guy actually lost, and still got
> installed.
> 
> || This is obviously a better place to be than your own country, 
> 
> Oops, yet another sadly uninformed opinion. Didn't Rush Limbaugh 
> cover my nationality on his talk show? Maybe you missed it 
> while you were watching Dr. Laura's special with Oliver North, 
> your Brother in Spirit?
> 
> || for whatever reason, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Enjoy the 
> || freedoms and luxury given to you by the great people of this nation 
> 
> I'll be sure to pat myself on the back, Rocky. 
> 
> || this weekend and keep your head down! 
> 
> Oh? Are you related to Dylan Klebold? Planning to lynch someone?
> (That was in the paper, too. You might have missed it during your 
> Klan Rally. ) 
> 
> Tell me something, Rocky. Are you one of those guys who "proudly 
> fights for our freedom" as long as he agrees with you? Or, are 
> you the "onestep over the line, and POW!" vigilante justice type 
> of guy?  
> 
> Well, I have to go now, Rocky. I have a bunch of fish to shoot in
> a barrel -- a significantly harder task than finding the flaws in
> your screed.  You have a nice day. 
> 
> 
> || 
> || AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL!
> 
> p.s.  Yes, She is beautiful. Just think of what a glory She could 
>be like if people like you were better informed. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-18 Thread Rocky Welch 

I'm not upset, Ross. Being from the most powerful (thanks to our fine
people in the military), and generous (thanks to everyone), nation on
earth we are used to being critizied by the nations we help (the dog that
bites the hand that feeds it). I'm simply pointing out a fact that you
seem to have overlooked. No one is forcing you to stay here and there
certainly was no national vote to invite you to come. This is obviously a
better place to be than your own country, for whatever reason, otherwise
you wouldn't be here.
Enjoy the freedoms and luxury given to you by the great people of this
nation this weekend and keep your head down! 

AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL!

--- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not sorry if I touched a nerve, Rocky. 
> 
> That's what it's all about. It's democracy, 
> suck it up, or spit it out. 
> 
> 
> || -Original Message-
> || From: Rocky Welch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> || Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 4:36 PM
> || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> || Subject: Re: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
> || 
> || 
> || And freedom to leave the country any time you wish. Have a 
> || nice flight.
> || 
> || --- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> || > 
> || > 
> || > ep, 
> || > 
> || > Any idiot can see we're the freest country in the world! 
> || > Free to do what is expected, or get thrown in jail at a 
> || > rate exceeding most other "civilized" nations. Free to 
> || > subsidize tobacco and alcohol (and related deaths) and 
> || > throw "dangerous criminals" in jail for using cannabis. 
> || > Free to have almost the highest teenage pregnancy rate 
> || > in the world. Free to fight for your rights just as long 
> || > as your money lasts! Free to buy as much of whatever you
> || > want until the money, environment, or patience of the
> || > less fortunate runs out. 
> || > 
> || > So much freedom, you could almost choke on it. 
> || > 
> || > Come on, you commie, admit it: you just stay here for 
> || > the Burgers and Coca-Cola!
> || > 
> || > "You have no chance to survive make your time"
> || > 
> || > rm
> || > 
> || > p.s. If you want to reach me, I'll be in the prayer meeting 
> || > John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, now holds each morning 
> || > inside the Department of Justice. 
> || > 
> || > 
> || > 
> || > || -Original Message-
> || > || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> || > || Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:07 PM
> || > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> || > || Subject: Re: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
> || > || 
> || > || 
> || > || Many professional women in the USA have found it necessary to 
> || > || purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal 
> || elements in 
> || > || public places. Children are constantly under 
> || psychological assault 
> || > || being exposed to media violence. The "liberal" 
> || education system is 
> || > || devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless "PC" 
> || relativism, 
> || > || materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant 
> || > || dismissal).  
> || > || 
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> || > || 
> || > || 
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OT RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Mohan, Ross 

Gene, 

Being part of a nation with people (such as yourself)
who have a willingness to let other's have their opinions 
-- some of who are a part of the military force that 
defends that right -- is why all my tickets out of town 
are always marked "round trip".

Above all, thanks for your service. 

- Ross

|| -Original Message-
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|| Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 4:52 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
|| 
|| 
|| Only in America, can you rant!  Try to criticize China while 
|| living there.  I have a friend there, her mail is read 
|| before she gets it.  All she can write is general stuff, 
|| nothing negative, fearful of her life.  The best thing about 
|| America is that you can b*tch if you want.  I served for 
|| this country and love this country.  *GO USA*
|| 
|| Not that there are not other great countries!
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RE: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Mohan, Ross 

Not sorry if I touched a nerve, Rocky. 

That's what it's all about. It's democracy, 
suck it up, or spit it out. 


|| -Original Message-
|| From: Rocky Welch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|| Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 4:36 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: Re: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
|| 
|| 
|| And freedom to leave the country any time you wish. Have a 
|| nice flight.
|| 
|| --- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|| > 
|| > 
|| > ep, 
|| > 
|| > Any idiot can see we're the freest country in the world! 
|| > Free to do what is expected, or get thrown in jail at a 
|| > rate exceeding most other "civilized" nations. Free to 
|| > subsidize tobacco and alcohol (and related deaths) and 
|| > throw "dangerous criminals" in jail for using cannabis. 
|| > Free to have almost the highest teenage pregnancy rate 
|| > in the world. Free to fight for your rights just as long 
|| > as your money lasts! Free to buy as much of whatever you
|| > want until the money, environment, or patience of the
|| > less fortunate runs out. 
|| > 
|| > So much freedom, you could almost choke on it. 
|| > 
|| > Come on, you commie, admit it: you just stay here for 
|| > the Burgers and Coca-Cola!
|| > 
|| > "You have no chance to survive make your time"
|| > 
|| > rm
|| > 
|| > p.s. If you want to reach me, I'll be in the prayer meeting 
|| > John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, now holds each morning 
|| > inside the Department of Justice. 
|| > 
|| > 
|| > 
|| > || -Original Message-
|| > || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|| > || Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:07 PM
|| > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| > || Subject: Re: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
|| > || 
|| > || 
|| > || Many professional women in the USA have found it necessary to 
|| > || purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal 
|| elements in 
|| > || public places. Children are constantly under 
|| psychological assault 
|| > || being exposed to media violence. The "liberal" 
|| education system is 
|| > || devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless "PC" 
|| relativism, 
|| > || materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant 
|| > || dismissal).  
|| > || 
|| > || Western "freedoms" can be seen from a variety of perspectives.  
|| > || 
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OT RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Mohan, Ross 

Brian of MacLean, 
 
I guess that's a good way of putting it, too. Sometimes I like to rant about
( i.e. "for" ) Amerikkka, but that's usually when she's under attack, in a
way that is 
perceived by me as being unfair or 
misinformed. 
 
- Ross

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 4:17 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



God I live in an awful country.  I'm sorry for all the tyranny my country
has put the world through.  I guess I'll just shoot myself.

Seriously.  I encourage the individual that is looking at working in Saudi
Arabia to do so if that is the experiences he wishes to have.  I am the
first to scream from the highest mountain all the things that are wrong with
America, and if it's okay with you, what is right with America.  The point
being that in America, "I CAN" if I want to.

Have a nice day and I hope you enjoy your move to Saudi Arabia. 

-Original Message- 

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:07 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 


Many professional women in the USA have found it necessary to 
purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal elements in 
public places. Children are constantly under psychological assault 
being exposed to media violence. The "liberal" education system is 
devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless "PC" relativism, 
materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant 
dismissal).  

Western "freedoms" can be seen from a variety of perspectives.  


> Conditions cut both ways - depends on how you see it... Loss of religious,

> social and cultural freedom against the possibility of earning (and saving

> because you can't spend) lots of $$. Having said that, as long as you
stick 
> to the straight and narrow path (as defined by the Saudi authorities) you 
> will be on the safest place on earth as far as crime goes. (E.g. stealing
is 
> punishable by cutting off your arm/fingers!!) 

... 


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Re: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Rocky Welch 

And freedom to leave the country any time you wish. Have a nice flight.

--- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> ep, 
> 
> Any idiot can see we're the freest country in the world! 
> Free to do what is expected, or get thrown in jail at a 
> rate exceeding most other "civilized" nations. Free to 
> subsidize tobacco and alcohol (and related deaths) and 
> throw "dangerous criminals" in jail for using cannabis. 
> Free to have almost the highest teenage pregnancy rate 
> in the world. Free to fight for your rights just as long 
> as your money lasts! Free to buy as much of whatever you
> want until the money, environment, or patience of the
> less fortunate runs out. 
> 
> So much freedom, you could almost choke on it. 
> 
> Come on, you commie, admit it: you just stay here for 
> the Burgers and Coca-Cola!
> 
> "You have no chance to survive make your time"
> 
> rm
> 
> p.s. If you want to reach me, I'll be in the prayer meeting 
> John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, now holds each morning 
> inside the Department of Justice. 
> 
> 
> 
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OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Mohan, Ross 



ep, 

Any idiot can see we're the freest country in the world! 
Free to do what is expected, or get thrown in jail at a 
rate exceeding most other "civilized" nations. Free to 
subsidize tobacco and alcohol (and related deaths) and 
throw "dangerous criminals" in jail for using cannabis. 
Free to have almost the highest teenage pregnancy rate 
in the world. Free to fight for your rights just as long 
as your money lasts! Free to buy as much of whatever you
want until the money, environment, or patience of the
less fortunate runs out. 

So much freedom, you could almost choke on it. 

Come on, you commie, admit it: you just stay here for 
the Burgers and Coca-Cola!

"You have no chance to survive make your time"

rm

p.s. If you want to reach me, I'll be in the prayer meeting 
John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, now holds each morning 
inside the Department of Justice. 



|| -Original Message-
|| From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|| Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:07 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: Re: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
|| 
|| 
|| Many professional women in the USA have found it necessary to 
|| purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal elements in 
|| public places. Children are constantly under psychological assault 
|| being exposed to media violence. The "liberal" education system is 
|| devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless "PC" relativism, 
|| materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant 
|| dismissal).  
|| 
|| Western "freedoms" can be seen from a variety of perspectives.  
|| 
|| 
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