RE: Export/Import Job

2001-12-03 Thread Hallas John



Re-reading my e-mail I had better jump in and correct 
the first line to read exporting/importing rather than exporting!!. Obviosuly 
exporting a schema is fully supported
 
John

  -Original Message-From: Hallas John 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 03 December 2001 
  12:10To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Export/Import Job
  Exporting an individual schema within APPS (GL /PA 
  etc) is not recommended due to the number of constraints that cross schemas 
  (to fnd tables for instance).
  So 
  changing the block size is essentially non Apps specific and is just a 
  straight export /import.
  Depending on your hardware and plan I would have 
  expected you to be able to start on a Saturday and complete on Sunday 
  (sometime).
  Run 
  as much archiving/purging as you can (certainly tables like fnd_requests 
  should be tidied down as much as possible).
  Have 
  a few dummy runs so that the the scripts are all fully tested and you have a 
  good checklist of all the scripts and expected timings.
  Most 
  importantly of all ensure that you can revert back from your backup safely and 
  as quickly as possible.
  Hopefully you will have the space to pre-create the 
  instance (dummy sid) and then rename it once you have completed the export of 
  live (Come to think of it, if you have that space you can retain both 
  instances and that certainly helps if you decide to abandon the build or 
  revert for any reason)
   
   
  PS 
  Unless the database really needs re-building what other benefits do you expect 
  from changing the block size?
   
  HTH
   
  John
   
   
  
-Original Message-From: Nick Wagner 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 30 November 2001 
21:05To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
Export/Import Job
If anyone out 
there has a good time estimate for the following export/import job I would 
appreciate it.  The goal is to change the DB_BLOCK_SIZE.  

 
Application: 
Oracle Apps 11i
Database Size: 
100GB, actually only about 80GB is used space.
2 CPU HP L-Class 
machine.  
 
I just need a 
couple of good estimates of how many days/hours this will take.   
I'm guessing around 3 days...  but I have never done anything this 
large before. 
 
Thanks!! 

 
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RE: Export/Import Job

2001-12-03 Thread Hallas John



Exporting an individual schema within APPS (GL /PA etc) 
is not recommended due to the number of constraints that cross schemas (to fnd 
tables for instance).
So 
changing the block size is essentially non Apps specific and is just a straight 
export /import.
Depending on your hardware and plan I would have 
expected you to be able to start on a Saturday and complete on Sunday 
(sometime).
Run as 
much archiving/purging as you can (certainly tables like fnd_requests should be 
tidied down as much as possible).
Have a 
few dummy runs so that the the scripts are all fully tested and you have a good 
checklist of all the scripts and expected timings.
Most 
importantly of all ensure that you can revert back from your backup safely and 
as quickly as possible.
Hopefully you will have the space to pre-create the 
instance (dummy sid) and then rename it once you have completed the export of 
live (Come to think of it, if you have that space you can retain both instances 
and that certainly helps if you decide to abandon the build or revert for any 
reason)
 
 
PS 
Unless the database really needs re-building what other benefits do you expect 
from changing the block size?
 
HTH
 
John
 
 

  -Original Message-From: Nick Wagner 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 30 November 2001 
  21:05To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Export/Import Job
  If anyone out 
  there has a good time estimate for the following export/import job I would 
  appreciate it.  The goal is to change the DB_BLOCK_SIZE.  
  
   
  Application: 
  Oracle Apps 11i
  Database Size: 
  100GB, actually only about 80GB is used space.
  2 CPU HP L-Class 
  machine.  
   
  I just need a 
  couple of good estimates of how many days/hours this will take.   
  I'm guessing around 3 days...  but I have never done anything this large 
  before. 
   
  Thanks!! 
  
   
  Nick

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RE: Export/Import Job

2001-11-30 Thread John Kanagaraj

Nick,
 
Export/Import on an Oracle Apps database is not very well supported. It is
my understanding (from another list) that a bug (or is that a feature :)
currently exists. This may not be applicable in your situation. A loss of
Java objects has been reported. Keeping in mind that Quest may need to know
about this for a testing scenario, this may be Ok, but not if you want the
Apps database to work from a logical point of view Nick, if you would to
like to follow this up, join the OAUGnet-DBA list at 'www.oaug.net' via the
Web ans search for the thread 'RE: export/import of 11i database - fyi
update'.
 

John Kanagaraj
Oracle Applications DBA
DBSoft Inc
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-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 1:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


If anyone out there has a good time estimate for the following export/import
job I would appreciate it.  The goal is to change the DB_BLOCK_SIZE.  
 
Application: Oracle Apps 11i
Database Size: 100GB, actually only about 80GB is used space.
2 CPU HP L-Class machine.  
 
I just need a couple of good estimates of how many days/hours this will
take.   I'm guessing around 3 days...  but I have never done anything this
large before. 
 
Thanks!! 
 
Nick

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