Re: Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-25 Thread Connor McDonald
Nope - you will get the diagram and basic description
in Tom's book (and of course the Concepts manual) but
that's not the idea of using this for an interview.

As they (hopefully) draw the SGA you can drift into
"musings" like: "So - if all these changes are in
memory - how do we ensure against not losing data if
we have a power failure"

That (hopefully) leads us onto redo logs, which leads
to more musings: "But if we've only get three - what
happens when all three are full" , or if they're good
- "there is no such thing as full for a file - how
does oracle 'know' that the redo is full" etc etc
etc...

If its a production role - you simply head down the
path that most appropriate for that.  If its
development, you start heading down other paths (say)
when they talk about library cache ... eg parsing,
blah blah blah...

And perhaps the best thing is, you'll easily get to
detect the honesty rating.  Sometimes the best answer
is "I have no f...ing idea".  That's fine with me, and
so much better than a load of BS.

The saddest thing I did last week was conduct 10 or so
interviews (for developers, not DBA's).  Not a single
one could answer the question: "What is a bind
variable and explain its significance to Oracle" :-(

A couple gave me the time honoured answer of:  "Hmmm,
yes, I used them in my last project but cannot quite
remember the specifics"spare me please

Cheers
Connor

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > that question is
diagrammed and answered in tom
> kytes new book. :) im waiting to get asked it. 
> 
> there is a new ault book out on interview questions.
> I dont think they are very tough. I think
> situational questions are better. Have a development
> DB set up with things for the applicant to do. 
> 
> I find that most employers ask the same easy
> questions. Particularly developer questions 
> > 
> > From: Kirtikumar Deshpande
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> > The problem with such lists is that the prospects
> also have those...
> > A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used
> it to screen candidates via phone interviews. 
> > Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect
> answers: word to word from Mike's list. 
> > 
> > Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a
> white/black board, and ask him/her to draw the SGA
> > with all it interal structures, all background
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> > together. 
> > 
> > - Kirti 
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RE: RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
I always find syntax examples in manuals ... don't know why ...

Raj

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not sure i like the 'read outside the oracle manuals'. I find that alot of people read 
alot of really bad books and then dont read the stuff on OTN. 

oracle has very good docs. I do have a beef over lack of syntax examples... 
> 
> From: "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 11:39:33 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: dba interview questions
> 
> We prefer to ask their experiences and then throw a curve ball and ask them to 
> defend it. Small issues like "Why would/wouldn't an index help?"  etc ... 
> 
> Another question that I *always* ask is "what do you or have you read in last 3 
> months outside of Oracle manuals?" or "Do you know any other sites that give you lot 
> of oracle related information?" I expect to hear at-least couple form following list 
> ... ixora, hotsos, jlcomp, oracle-dba, oraperf, orapub. If they mention that they 
> have read YAPP, that's a bonus too.
> 
> But if someone says they haven't read anything other than manuals questions become a 
> little steep.
> 
> Raj
> 
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> The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen candidates via phone 
> interviews. 
> Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from Mike's list. 
> 
> Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask him/her to 
> draw the SGA
> with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain how all this 
> works
> together. 
> 
> - Kirti 
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RE: RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread Odland, Brad
I would have answered:

 I'd send the list to the help desk as they take care of logins
and tell them to lock all accounts except the list I send.

What is it you say?? your help desk doesn't do that? Tsk, tsk, tsk...

hehehe



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Sure do, here's my favorite:

You have a database with 3000 registered users, you need to lock all
accounts except for a list of 20.  How would you do it?

Obviously there's several correct answers.  But the one I'm looking for is
the "anonymous PL/SQL block" defined like:

declare 
stmt varchar2(200);
begin
for a in (select username from dba_users
  where username not in ('SYS','SYSTEM',...)) loop
stmt := 'alter user '||a.username||' account lock';
execute immediate stmt;
end loop;
end;
/


Dick Goulet
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do any of you ask dbas pl/sql questions? I think its important for DBAs to
be good developers as well. especially if they are part of a development
team. I dont think the skill sets should be seperate. they overlap. 
> 
> From: "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 11:39:33 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: dba interview questions
> 
> We prefer to ask their experiences and then throw a curve ball and ask
them to defend it. Small issues like "Why would/wouldn't an index help?"
etc ... 
> 
> Another question that I *always* ask is "what do you or have you read in
last 3 months outside of Oracle manuals?" or "Do you know any other sites
that give you lot of oracle related information?" I expect to hear at-least
couple form following list ... ixora, hotsos, jlcomp, oracle-dba, oraperf,
orapub. If they mention that they have read YAPP, that's a bonus too.
> 
> But if someone says they haven't read anything other than manuals
questions become a little steep.
> 
> Raj
> 
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> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:49 AM
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> 
> The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen candidates
via phone interviews. 
> Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from
Mike's list. 
> 
> Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask
him/her to draw the SGA
> with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain how
all this works
> together. 
> 
> - Kirti 
> 
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Re: Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread Tanel Poder
I usually tend to ask questions like what has been your worst disaster
scenario and how did you fix it, what other options would you have had and
why didn't you use these etc.. The same with performance tuning issues...

Tanel.

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> Oh! Well. I have not seen Tom's book yet.
> But still, when the candidate is explaining this stuff to you, there are
plenty of opps to
> question him/her to find out if he/she really knows fundamental things..
> During one phone interview, we could clearly hear the paper shuffle in the
background, while the
> candidate asked us to repeat the question (a couple of times) to 'make
sure' he understood it
> correctly before answering (reading?)it :)
> We stopped phone interview process after this!!
>
> - Kirti
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > that question is diagrammed and answered in tom kytes new book. :) im
waiting to get asked it.
> >
> > there is a new ault book out on interview questions. I dont think they
are very tough. I think
> > situational questions are better. Have a development DB set up with
things for the applicant to
> > do.
> >
> > I find that most employers ask the same easy questions. Particularly
developer questions
> > >
> > > From: Kirtikumar Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 09:49:26 EDT
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: dba interview questions
> > >
> > > The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> > > A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen
candidates via phone interviews.
> >
> > > Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from
Mike's list.
> > >
> > > Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask
him/her to draw the SGA
> > > with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain
how all this works
> > > together.
> > >
> > > - Kirti
> > >
> > >
> > > --- system manager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Dear List,Can anyone send me a list of dba interview questions?
> > > >
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Re: Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread Rachel Carmichael
sigh... add to this weekend's reading list Tom's new book (it's sitting
on my dining room table, waiting)


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> that question is diagrammed and answered in tom kytes new book. :) im
> waiting to get asked it. 
> 
> there is a new ault book out on interview questions. I dont think
> they are very tough. I think situational questions are better. Have a
> development DB set up with things for the applicant to do. 
> 
> I find that most employers ask the same easy questions. Particularly
> developer questions 
> > 
> > From: Kirtikumar Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 09:49:26 EDT
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: dba interview questions
> > 
> > The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have
> those...
> > A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen
> candidates via phone interviews. 
> > Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word
> from Mike's list. 
> > 
> > Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and
> ask him/her to draw the SGA
> > with all it interal structures, all background processes, and
> explain how all this works
> > together. 
> > 
> > - Kirti 
> > 
> > 
> > --- system manager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dear List,Can anyone send me a list of dba interview
> questions?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
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RE: Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread April Wells
Title: RE: Re: dba interview questions





and at least if someone takes the time to read a book and get the whole picture, they have some kind of gumshun.


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Oh! Well. I have not seen Tom's book yet. 
But still, when the candidate is explaining this stuff to you, there are plenty of opps to
question him/her to find out if he/she really knows fundamental things..
During one phone interview, we could clearly hear the paper shuffle in the background, while the
candidate asked us to repeat the question (a couple of times) to 'make sure' he understood it
correctly before answering (reading?)it :) 
We stopped phone interview process after this!! 


- Kirti


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> that question is diagrammed and answered in tom kytes new book. :) im waiting to get asked it. 
> 
> there is a new ault book out on interview questions. I dont think they are very tough. I think
> situational questions are better. Have a development DB set up with things for the applicant to
> do. 
> 
> I find that most employers ask the same easy questions. Particularly developer questions 
> > 
> > From: Kirtikumar Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 09:49:26 EDT
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: dba interview questions
> > 
> > The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> > A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen candidates via phone interviews.
> 
> > Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from Mike's list. 
> > 
> > Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask him/her to draw the SGA
> > with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain how all this works
> > together. 
> > 
> > - Kirti 
> > 
> > 
> > --- system manager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dear List,    Can anyone send me a list of dba interview questions?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _
> > > Free email with personality! Over 200 domains!
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RE: RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread Goulet, Dick
Heck,  Our helpdesk doesn't even reset passwords!!

Dick Goulet
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I would have answered:

 I'd send the list to the help desk as they take care of logins
and tell them to lock all accounts except the list I send.

What is it you say?? your help desk doesn't do that? Tsk, tsk, tsk...

hehehe



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Sure do, here's my favorite:

You have a database with 3000 registered users, you need to lock all
accounts except for a list of 20.  How would you do it?

Obviously there's several correct answers.  But the one I'm looking for is
the "anonymous PL/SQL block" defined like:

declare 
stmt varchar2(200);
begin
for a in (select username from dba_users
  where username not in ('SYS','SYSTEM',...)) loop
stmt := 'alter user '||a.username||' account lock';
execute immediate stmt;
end loop;
end;
/


Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


do any of you ask dbas pl/sql questions? I think its important for DBAs to
be good developers as well. especially if they are part of a development
team. I dont think the skill sets should be seperate. they overlap. 
> 
> From: "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 11:39:33 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: dba interview questions
> 
> We prefer to ask their experiences and then throw a curve ball and ask
them to defend it. Small issues like "Why would/wouldn't an index help?"
etc ... 
> 
> Another question that I *always* ask is "what do you or have you read in
last 3 months outside of Oracle manuals?" or "Do you know any other sites
that give you lot of oracle related information?" I expect to hear at-least
couple form following list ... ixora, hotsos, jlcomp, oracle-dba, oraperf,
orapub. If they mention that they have read YAPP, that's a bonus too.
> 
> But if someone says they haven't read anything other than manuals
questions become a little steep.
> 
> Raj
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:49 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen candidates
via phone interviews. 
> Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from
Mike's list. 
> 
> Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask
him/her to draw the SGA
> with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain how
all this works
> together. 
> 
> - Kirti 
> 
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RE: RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread Scott Canaan
What do you need the stmt for?  Just do:

begin
for a in (select username from dba_users
  where username not in ('SYS','SYSTEM',...))
loop
execute immediate 'alter user '||a.username||' account
lock';
end loop;
end;
/

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Sure do, here's my favorite:

You have a database with 3000 registered users, you need to lock
all accounts except for a list of 20.  How would you do it?

Obviously there's several correct answers.  But the one I'm looking for
is the "anonymous PL/SQL block" defined like:

declare 
stmt varchar2(200);
begin
for a in (select username from dba_users
  where username not in ('SYS','SYSTEM',...))
loop
stmt := 'alter user '||a.username||' account lock';
execute immediate stmt;
end loop;
end;
/


Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


do any of you ask dbas pl/sql questions? I think its important for DBAs
to be good developers as well. especially if they are part of a
development team. I dont think the skill sets should be seperate. they
overlap. 
> 
> From: "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 11:39:33 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: dba interview questions
> 
> We prefer to ask their experiences and then throw a curve ball and ask
them to defend it. Small issues like "Why would/wouldn't an index help?"
etc ... 
> 
> Another question that I *always* ask is "what do you or have you read
in last 3 months outside of Oracle manuals?" or "Do you know any other
sites that give you lot of oracle related information?" I expect to hear
at-least couple form following list ... ixora, hotsos, jlcomp,
oracle-dba, oraperf, orapub. If they mention that they have read YAPP,
that's a bonus too.
> 
> But if someone says they haven't read anything other than manuals
questions become a little steep.
> 
> Raj
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:49 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen
candidates via phone interviews. 
> Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from
Mike's list. 
> 
> Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask
him/her to draw the SGA
> with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain
how all this works
> together. 
> 
> - Kirti 
> 
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RE: RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread Goulet, Dick
Sure do, here's my favorite:

You have a database with 3000 registered users, you need to lock all accounts 
except for a list of 20.  How would you do it?

Obviously there's several correct answers.  But the one I'm looking for is the 
"anonymous PL/SQL block" defined like:

declare 
stmt varchar2(200);
begin
for a in (select username from dba_users
  where username not in ('SYS','SYSTEM',...)) loop
stmt := 'alter user '||a.username||' account lock';
execute immediate stmt;
end loop;
end;
/


Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


do any of you ask dbas pl/sql questions? I think its important for DBAs to be good 
developers as well. especially if they are part of a development team. I dont think 
the skill sets should be seperate. they overlap. 
> 
> From: "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 11:39:33 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: dba interview questions
> 
> We prefer to ask their experiences and then throw a curve ball and ask them to 
> defend it. Small issues like "Why would/wouldn't an index help?"  etc ... 
> 
> Another question that I *always* ask is "what do you or have you read in last 3 
> months outside of Oracle manuals?" or "Do you know any other sites that give you lot 
> of oracle related information?" I expect to hear at-least couple form following list 
> ... ixora, hotsos, jlcomp, oracle-dba, oraperf, orapub. If they mention that they 
> have read YAPP, that's a bonus too.
> 
> But if someone says they haven't read anything other than manuals questions become a 
> little steep.
> 
> Raj
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:49 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen candidates via phone 
> interviews. 
> Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from Mike's list. 
> 
> Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask him/her to 
> draw the SGA
> with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain how all this 
> works
> together. 
> 
> - Kirti 
> 
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Re: RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread rgaffuri
do any of you ask dbas pl/sql questions? I think its important for DBAs to be good 
developers as well. especially if they are part of a development team. I dont think 
the skill sets should be seperate. they overlap. 
> 
> From: "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 11:39:33 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: dba interview questions
> 
> We prefer to ask their experiences and then throw a curve ball and ask them to 
> defend it. Small issues like "Why would/wouldn't an index help?"  etc ... 
> 
> Another question that I *always* ask is "what do you or have you read in last 3 
> months outside of Oracle manuals?" or "Do you know any other sites that give you lot 
> of oracle related information?" I expect to hear at-least couple form following list 
> ... ixora, hotsos, jlcomp, oracle-dba, oraperf, orapub. If they mention that they 
> have read YAPP, that's a bonus too.
> 
> But if someone says they haven't read anything other than manuals questions become a 
> little steep.
> 
> Raj
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:49 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen candidates via phone 
> interviews. 
> Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from Mike's list. 
> 
> Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask him/her to 
> draw the SGA
> with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain how all this 
> works
> together. 
> 
> - Kirti 
> 
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Re: RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread rgaffuri
not sure i like the 'read outside the oracle manuals'. I find that alot of people read 
alot of really bad books and then dont read the stuff on OTN. 

oracle has very good docs. I do have a beef over lack of syntax examples... 
> 
> From: "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 11:39:33 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: dba interview questions
> 
> We prefer to ask their experiences and then throw a curve ball and ask them to 
> defend it. Small issues like "Why would/wouldn't an index help?"  etc ... 
> 
> Another question that I *always* ask is "what do you or have you read in last 3 
> months outside of Oracle manuals?" or "Do you know any other sites that give you lot 
> of oracle related information?" I expect to hear at-least couple form following list 
> ... ixora, hotsos, jlcomp, oracle-dba, oraperf, orapub. If they mention that they 
> have read YAPP, that's a bonus too.
> 
> But if someone says they haven't read anything other than manuals questions become a 
> little steep.
> 
> Raj
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:49 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen candidates via phone 
> interviews. 
> Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from Mike's list. 
> 
> Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask him/her to 
> draw the SGA
> with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain how all this 
> works
> together. 
> 
> - Kirti 
> 
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RE: Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread rgaffuri
its in the first book expert one on one. he talks about it on his webpage. its also in 
the concepts document. its just a diagram of oracle and the background processes. 

he says its the weeding out question he asks. maybe 1 in 10 get it right. 
> 
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 11:29:25 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Re: dba interview questions
> 
> Ryan
>Would that diagram be in "Effective Oracle by Design" by Tom Kyte? Can
> you elaborate?
> 
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
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> 
> 
> that question is diagrammed and answered in tom kytes new book. :) im
> waiting to get asked it. 
> 
> there is a new ault book out on interview questions. I dont think they are
> very tough. I think situational questions are better. Have a development DB
> set up with things for the applicant to do. 
> 
> I find that most employers ask the same easy questions. Particularly
> developer questions 
> > 
> > From: Kirtikumar Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 09:49:26 EDT
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: dba interview questions
> > 
> > The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> > A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen candidates
> via phone interviews. 
> > Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from
> Mike's list. 
> > 
> > Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask
> him/her to draw the SGA
> > with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain how
> all this works
> > together. 
> > 
> > - Kirti 
> > 
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RE: Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ryan
   Would that diagram be in "Effective Oracle by Design" by Tom Kyte? Can
you elaborate?

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that question is diagrammed and answered in tom kytes new book. :) im
waiting to get asked it. 

there is a new ault book out on interview questions. I dont think they are
very tough. I think situational questions are better. Have a development DB
set up with things for the applicant to do. 

I find that most employers ask the same easy questions. Particularly
developer questions 
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> 
> The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen candidates
via phone interviews. 
> Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from
Mike's list. 
> 
> Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask
him/her to draw the SGA
> with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain how
all this works
> together. 
> 
> - Kirti 
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Re: Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Oh! Well. I have not seen Tom's book yet. 
But still, when the candidate is explaining this stuff to you, there are plenty of 
opps to
question him/her to find out if he/she really knows fundamental things..
During one phone interview, we could clearly hear the paper shuffle in the background, 
while the
candidate asked us to repeat the question (a couple of times) to 'make sure' he 
understood it
correctly before answering (reading?)it :) 
We stopped phone interview process after this!! 

- Kirti

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> that question is diagrammed and answered in tom kytes new book. :) im waiting to get 
> asked it. 
> 
> there is a new ault book out on interview questions. I dont think they are very 
> tough. I think
> situational questions are better. Have a development DB set up with things for the 
> applicant to
> do. 
> 
> I find that most employers ask the same easy questions. Particularly developer 
> questions 
> > 
> > From: Kirtikumar Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 09:49:26 EDT
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: dba interview questions
> > 
> > The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> > A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen candidates via phone 
> > interviews.
> 
> > Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from Mike's 
> > list. 
> > 
> > Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask him/her to 
> > draw the SGA
> > with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain how all this 
> > works
> > together. 
> > 
> > - Kirti 
> > 
> > 
> > --- system manager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dear List,Can anyone send me a list of dba interview questions?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
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Re: Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-24 Thread rgaffuri
that question is diagrammed and answered in tom kytes new book. :) im waiting to get 
asked it. 

there is a new ault book out on interview questions. I dont think they are very tough. 
I think situational questions are better. Have a development DB set up with things for 
the applicant to do. 

I find that most employers ask the same easy questions. Particularly developer 
questions 
> 
> From: Kirtikumar Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/24 Fri AM 09:49:26 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: dba interview questions
> 
> The problem with such lists is that the prospects also have those...
> A few years ago Mike Ault published one. We used it to screen candidates via phone 
> interviews. 
> Two out of four I talked to gave me perfect answers: word to word from Mike's list. 
> 
> Use Conner's approach: Give the candidate a white/black board, and ask him/her to 
> draw the SGA
> with all it interal structures, all background processes, and explain how all this 
> works
> together. 
> 
> - Kirti 
> 
> 
> --- system manager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dear List,Can anyone send me a list of dba interview questions?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > _
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