RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT

2002-07-02 Thread Grabowy, Chris

ok, ok...were even.

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You just can't forget about that dbms_output/trigger thing, can you?   ;)

Jared





"Grabowy, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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        Subject:    RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT


My sincere and humble apologies to Rachel, if my earlier email has 
offended
her.  That was not the intention.  I believe myself and others that tease
and pick on Rachel, do it out of respect and love for her, and would never
intentionally mean to offend her.

I do not know about other locations and cultures, but in my office we
constantly pick and tease on each other.  It is those who are never teased
that have to worry...

If I offend you then please do not hesitate to email me privately or
publicly.


>From now on I will just pick on Jared...


-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:03 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.

Best not do it at all.

Jared

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is "picking on
> Rachel" part of the on topic list???
>
> --- Joe Testa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks bizarre
> > questions :),
> >
> > like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and one
> > is
> > on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
> > updating
> > first.
> >
> > joe
> >
> > Grabowy, Chris wrote:
> > >Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
> > >
> > >Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking her
> >
> > head.  Oh
> >
> > >well...
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have to
> >
> > walk
> >
> > >out in the middle
> > >
> > >
> > >--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >>Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
> > >>lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
> > >>little sparse on details.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>We have enough youth.
> > >>How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > >>
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
> > >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either the
> > >>same
> > >>time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I
> > >>get
> > >>stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to
> >
> > see
> >
> > >>equally as much were there.
> > >>
> > >>Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
> > >>have to leave around 2:30 or so
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>
> > >>wrote:
> > >>>But Rachel, you never came to any of my
> > >>>presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
> > >>>
> > >>>At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>We have enough youth.
> > >>>How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > >>>
> > >>>-Original Message-
> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
> > >>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
> > >>>
> > >>>or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
> > >>>
> > >>>"he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him"

RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT

2002-07-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael

My note must have been missing the smiley

but you guys WERE picking on me :)  (MOO make him stop!
)
--- "Grabowy, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My sincere and humble apologies to Rachel, if my earlier email has
> offended
> her.  That was not the intention.  I believe myself and others that
> tease
> and pick on Rachel, do it out of respect and love for her, and would
> never
> intentionally mean to offend her.
> 
> I do not know about other locations and cultures, but in my office we
> constantly pick and tease on each other.  It is those who are never
> teased
> that have to worry...
> 
> If I offend you then please do not hesitate to email me privately or
> publicly.
> 
> 
> From now on I will just pick on Jared...
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:03 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> 
> Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.
> 
> Best not do it at all.
> 
> Jared
> 
> On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> > YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is "picking on
> > Rachel" part of the on topic list???
> >
> > --- Joe Testa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks
> bizarre
> > > questions :),
> > >
> > > like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and
> one
> > > is
> > > on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
> > > updating
> > > first.
> > >
> > > joe
> > >
> > > Grabowy, Chris wrote:
> > > >Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
> > > >
> > > >Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking
> her
> > >
> > > head.  Oh
> > >
> > > >well...
> > > >
> > > >-Original Message-
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have
> to
> > >
> > > walk
> > >
> > > >out in the middle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > >wrote:
> > > >>Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
> > > >>lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
> > > >>little sparse on details.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>We have enough youth.
> > > >>How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > > >>
> > > >>-Original Message-
> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
> > > >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either
> the
> > > >>same
> > > >>time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to
> yours, I
> > > >>get
> > > >>stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted
> to
> > >
> > > see
> > >
> > > >>equally as much were there.
> > > >>
> > > >>Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at
> 5, I
> > > >>have to leave around 2:30 or so
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>
> > > >>wrote:
> > > >>>But Rachel, you never came to any of my
> > > >>>presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>>We have enough youth.
> > > >>>How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>-Original Message-
> > > >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
> > > >>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
> > > >>>
> > > >>>or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>"he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship
> him"
> > > >>>
> > > >>>:)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>wrote:
> > > Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was
> orginally
> > > schedule
> > > to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I
> gave
> > > >>>
> > > >>>four
> > > >>>
> > > the
> > > year
> > > before that.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > We have enough youth.
> > > How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our
> best
> > > >>
> > > >>to
> > > >>
> > > weed out
> > > the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
> > > >>
> > > >>noticed
> > > >>
> > > >>>a
> > > >>>
> > > significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more
> technical
> > > content.
> > > Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giv

RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT

2002-07-02 Thread Jared . Still

You just can't forget about that dbms_output/trigger thing, can you?   ;)

Jared





"Grabowy, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
07/02/2002 10:51 AM
Please respond to ORACLE-L

 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc: 
        Subject:    RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT


My sincere and humble apologies to Rachel, if my earlier email has 
offended
her.  That was not the intention.  I believe myself and others that tease
and pick on Rachel, do it out of respect and love for her, and would never
intentionally mean to offend her.

I do not know about other locations and cultures, but in my office we
constantly pick and tease on each other.  It is those who are never teased
that have to worry...

If I offend you then please do not hesitate to email me privately or
publicly.


>From now on I will just pick on Jared...


-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:03 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.

Best not do it at all.

Jared

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is "picking on
> Rachel" part of the on topic list???
>
> --- Joe Testa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks bizarre
> > questions :),
> >
> > like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and one
> > is
> > on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
> > updating
> > first.
> >
> > joe
> >
> > Grabowy, Chris wrote:
> > >Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
> > >
> > >Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking her
> >
> > head.  Oh
> >
> > >well...
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have to
> >
> > walk
> >
> > >out in the middle
> > >
> > >
> > >--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >>Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
> > >>lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
> > >>little sparse on details.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>We have enough youth.
> > >>How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > >>
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
> > >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either the
> > >>same
> > >>time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I
> > >>get
> > >>stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to
> >
> > see
> >
> > >>equally as much were there.
> > >>
> > >>Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
> > >>have to leave around 2:30 or so
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>
> > >>wrote:
> > >>>But Rachel, you never came to any of my
> > >>>presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
> > >>>
> > >>>At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>We have enough youth.
> > >>>How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > >>>
> > >>>-Original Message-
> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
> > >>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
> > >>>
> > >>>or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
> > >>>
> > >>>"he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him"
> > >>>
> > >>>:)
> > >>>
> > >>>--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MA

RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT

2002-07-02 Thread Grabowy, Chris

My sincere and humble apologies to Rachel, if my earlier email has offended
her.  That was not the intention.  I believe myself and others that tease
and pick on Rachel, do it out of respect and love for her, and would never
intentionally mean to offend her.

I do not know about other locations and cultures, but in my office we
constantly pick and tease on each other.  It is those who are never teased
that have to worry...

If I offend you then please do not hesitate to email me privately or
publicly.


>From now on I will just pick on Jared...


-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:03 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.

Best not do it at all.

Jared

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is "picking on
> Rachel" part of the on topic list???
>
> --- Joe Testa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks bizarre
> > questions :),
> >
> > like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and one
> > is
> > on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
> > updating
> > first.
> >
> > joe
> >
> > Grabowy, Chris wrote:
> > >Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
> > >
> > >Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking her
> >
> > head.  Oh
> >
> > >well...
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have to
> >
> > walk
> >
> > >out in the middle
> > >
> > >
> > >--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >>Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
> > >>lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
> > >>little sparse on details.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>We have enough youth.
> > >>How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > >>
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
> > >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either the
> > >>same
> > >>time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I
> > >>get
> > >>stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to
> >
> > see
> >
> > >>equally as much were there.
> > >>
> > >>Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
> > >>have to leave around 2:30 or so
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>
> > >>wrote:
> > >>>But Rachel, you never came to any of my
> > >>>presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
> > >>>
> > >>>At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>We have enough youth.
> > >>>How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > >>>
> > >>>-Original Message-
> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
> > >>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
> > >>>
> > >>>or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
> > >>>
> > >>>"he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him"
> > >>>
> > >>>:)
> > >>>
> > >>>--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>
> > >>>wrote:
> > Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was orginally
> > schedule
> > to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I gave
> > >>>
> > >>>four
> > >>>
> > the
> > year
> > before that.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > We have enough youth.
> > How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our best
> > >>
> > >>to
> > >>
> > weed out
> > the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
> > >>
> > >>noticed
> > >>
> > >>>a
> > >>>
> > significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more technical
> > content.
> > Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a presentation,
> > >>
> > >>but
> > >>
> > the
> > content has to be there.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my
> > >>
> > >>track
> > >>
> > and then
> > complained that they were not accepted.  Let me give you some
> > concrete
> > numbers.  This year, we received over 400 abstracts for the DBA
> > >>>
> > >>>track
> > >>>
> > alone
> > and accepted only 80.  If one slips through the cracks, it won't
> > >>
> > >>a
> > >>
> > s