Re: [PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++

2007-03-01 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Sure! My Pd time is pretty much weekend warrior status at this point,
but I may make a project of trying to clean up some documentation/help
patches. If I did this, what's the best way to get the change
implemented?

Also, what's the status of PDDP?

~Kyle

On 2/28/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Complete, parsable documentation sounds good.  Wanna help? :)
>
> .hc
>
> On Feb 27, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
>
> > All of this confusion really enforces to me the importance of using
> > separate external objects rather than libraries. Either that, or more
> > complete, parseable documentation.
> >
> > ~Kyle
> >
> > On 2/27/07, cyrille henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> line3 is in nusmuk folder, it is not related to any lib.
> >>
> >> hope that help
> >> cyrille
> >>
> >> IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
> >>> timon wrote:
>  Ive got
> 
>  cyclone
>  zexy
>  list-abs
>  mapping
>  iemlib
>  hid
>  activated.
>  Same libs activated in the latest release
>  but the below objects are now broken.
> 
> 
>  Alternate - broken
>  line3 - broken
>  randomF - broken
>  invert - broken
> >>>
> >>> this _might_ relate to markEx (even though the markEx objects are
> >>> called
> >>> [alternate] and [tripleLine]).
> >>>
> >>> obviously markEx is not loaded, so this might be your problem
> >>> (markEx
> >>> used to be part of Gem in the golden days, but is no longer)
> >>>
> >>>
>  remote - broken
>  ascseq - broken
> >>>
> >>> at least these objects are not in Gem/markEx, zexy, list-abs and
> >>> iemlib.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Which libs?  I don't know the story on any of these.
> >>>
> >>> if you still have your old pd-extended version lying around (the one
> >>> where these objects do work), you could start that one and open the
> >>> help-patches for the borken objects.
> >>> both the content of the help-patches and the full path of these
> >>> might
> >>> reveal which libraries they belong to.
> >>>
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Re: [PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++

2007-02-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Complete, parsable documentation sounds good.  Wanna help? :)

.hc

On Feb 27, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:

> All of this confusion really enforces to me the importance of using
> separate external objects rather than libraries. Either that, or more
> complete, parseable documentation.
>
> ~Kyle
>
> On 2/27/07, cyrille henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> line3 is in nusmuk folder, it is not related to any lib.
>>
>> hope that help
>> cyrille
>>
>> IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
>>> timon wrote:
 Ive got

 cyclone
 zexy
 list-abs
 mapping
 iemlib
 hid
 activated.
 Same libs activated in the latest release
 but the below objects are now broken.


 Alternate - broken
 line3 - broken
 randomF - broken
 invert - broken
>>>
>>> this _might_ relate to markEx (even though the markEx objects are  
>>> called
>>> [alternate] and [tripleLine]).
>>>
>>> obviously markEx is not loaded, so this might be your problem  
>>> (markEx
>>> used to be part of Gem in the golden days, but is no longer)
>>>
>>>
 remote - broken
 ascseq - broken
>>>
>>> at least these objects are not in Gem/markEx, zexy, list-abs and  
>>> iemlib.
>>>
>>>
>>> Which libs?  I don't know the story on any of these.
>>>
>>> if you still have your old pd-extended version lying around (the one
>>> where these objects do work), you could start that one and open the
>>> help-patches for the borken objects.
>>> both the content of the help-patches and the full path of these  
>>> might
>>> reveal which libraries they belong to.
>>>
>>>
>>> mfga.dr
>>> IOhannes
>>>
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Re: [PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++

2007-02-27 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
All of this confusion really enforces to me the importance of using
separate external objects rather than libraries. Either that, or more
complete, parseable documentation.

~Kyle

On 2/27/07, cyrille henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> line3 is in nusmuk folder, it is not related to any lib.
>
> hope that help
> cyrille
>
> IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
> > timon wrote:
> >> Ive got
> >>
> >> cyclone
> >> zexy
> >> list-abs
> >> mapping
> >> iemlib
> >> hid
> >> activated.
> >> Same libs activated in the latest release
> >> but the below objects are now broken.
> >>
> >>
> >> Alternate - broken
> >> line3 - broken
> >> randomF - broken
> >> invert - broken
> >
> > this _might_ relate to markEx (even though the markEx objects are called
> > [alternate] and [tripleLine]).
> >
> > obviously markEx is not loaded, so this might be your problem (markEx
> > used to be part of Gem in the golden days, but is no longer)
> >
> >
> >> remote - broken
> >> ascseq - broken
> >
> > at least these objects are not in Gem/markEx, zexy, list-abs and iemlib.
> >
> >
> > Which libs?  I don't know the story on any of these.
> >
> > if you still have your old pd-extended version lying around (the one
> > where these objects do work), you could start that one and open the
> > help-patches for the borken objects.
> > both the content of the help-patches and the full path of these might
> > reveal which libraries they belong to.
> >
> >
> > mfga.dr
> > IOhannes
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Re: [PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++

2007-02-27 Thread cyrille henry
line3 is in nusmuk folder, it is not related to any lib.

hope that help
cyrille

IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
> timon wrote:
>> Ive got
>>
>> cyclone
>> zexy
>> list-abs
>> mapping
>> iemlib
>> hid
>> activated.
>> Same libs activated in the latest release
>> but the below objects are now broken.
>>
>>
>> Alternate - broken
>> line3 - broken
>> randomF - broken
>> invert - broken
> 
> this _might_ relate to markEx (even though the markEx objects are called
> [alternate] and [tripleLine]).
> 
> obviously markEx is not loaded, so this might be your problem (markEx
> used to be part of Gem in the golden days, but is no longer)
> 
> 
>> remote - broken
>> ascseq - broken
> 
> at least these objects are not in Gem/markEx, zexy, list-abs and iemlib.
> 
> 
> Which libs?  I don't know the story on any of these.
> 
> if you still have your old pd-extended version lying around (the one
> where these objects do work), you could start that one and open the
> help-patches for the borken objects.
> both the content of the help-patches and the full path of these might
> reveal which libraries they belong to.
> 
> 
> mfga.dr
> IOhannes
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Re: [PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++

2007-02-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
timon wrote:
> Ive got
> 
> cyclone
> zexy
> list-abs
> mapping
> iemlib
> hid
> activated.
> Same libs activated in the latest release
> but the below objects are now broken.
> 
>
> Alternate - broken
> line3 - broken
> randomF - broken
> invert - broken

this _might_ relate to markEx (even though the markEx objects are called
[alternate] and [tripleLine]).

obviously markEx is not loaded, so this might be your problem (markEx
used to be part of Gem in the golden days, but is no longer)


> remote - broken
> ascseq - broken

at least these objects are not in Gem/markEx, zexy, list-abs and iemlib.


 Which libs?  I don't know the story on any of these.

if you still have your old pd-extended version lying around (the one
where these objects do work), you could start that one and open the
help-patches for the borken objects.
both the content of the help-patches and the full path of these might
reveal which libraries they belong to.


mfga.dr
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++

2007-02-27 Thread timon
Ive got

cyclone
zexy
list-abs
mapping
iemlib
hid
activated.
Same libs activated in the latest release
but the below objects are now broken.

I thought the below objects where part of PD...

T.

On 27 Feb 2007, at 03:13, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

>
> On Feb 26, 2007, at 4:46 AM, timon wrote:
>
>>>
 Zexy objects - aliases - are all broken
>>>
>>> I don't support aliases at in Pd-extended, I think they are  
>>> kludgey.  But someone else could do the work to get them working,  
>>> I suppose.
>>>
 Alternate - broken
 line3 - broken
 remote - broken
 randomF - broken
 ascseq - broken
 invert - broken
>>>
>>> Which libs?  I don't know the story on any of these.
>>>
>> That is strange. Does it mean the general PD source has been  
>> changed? - Without the knowledge of repairing any of this Ill be  
>> stuck with test 4 (a very stable release by the way).
>
> Which libs are these loaded from in test4?
>
> .hc
>
>> Thanks for the note,
>> Timon.
>>
>>
>>> .hc
>>>

 They have all been fully working objects in the past. Is there a
 reason for them to be disabled or have they migrated to a different
 library? If so what library?
 And finally, is there a way of keeping track of such changes?

 Thanks,
 timon




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Re: [PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++

2007-02-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Feb 26, 2007, at 4:46 AM, timon wrote:

>>
>>> Zexy objects - aliases - are all broken
>>
>> I don't support aliases at in Pd-extended, I think they are  
>> kludgey.  But someone else could do the work to get them working,  
>> I suppose.
>>
>>> Alternate - broken
>>> line3 - broken
>>> remote - broken
>>> randomF - broken
>>> ascseq - broken
>>> invert - broken
>>
>> Which libs?  I don't know the story on any of these.
>>
> That is strange. Does it mean the general PD source has been  
> changed? - Without the knowledge of repairing any of this Ill be  
> stuck with test 4 (a very stable release by the way).

Which libs are these loaded from in test4?

.hc

> Thanks for the note,
> Timon.
>
>
>> .hc
>>
>>>
>>> They have all been fully working objects in the past. Is there a
>>> reason for them to be disabled or have they migrated to a different
>>> library? If so what library?
>>> And finally, is there a way of keeping track of such changes?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> timon
>>>
>>>
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>> tactic.  It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night  
>> attacks and expect we're going to win that war.  We're not going  
>> to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general,  
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Re: [PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++

2007-02-26 Thread timon
>
>> Zexy objects - aliases - are all broken
>
> I don't support aliases at in Pd-extended, I think they are  
> kludgey.  But someone else could do the work to get them working, I  
> suppose.
>
>> Alternate - broken
>> line3 - broken
>> remote - broken
>> randomF - broken
>> ascseq - broken
>> invert - broken
>
> Which libs?  I don't know the story on any of these.
>
That is strange. Does it mean the general PD source has been changed?  
- Without the knowledge of repairing any of this Ill be stuck with  
test 4 (a very stable release by the way).
Thanks for the note,
Timon.


> .hc
>
>>
>> They have all been fully working objects in the past. Is there a
>> reason for them to be disabled or have they migrated to a different
>> library? If so what library?
>> And finally, is there a way of keeping track of such changes?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> timon
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++

2007-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Feb 20, 2007, at 8:47 AM, timon wrote:

> Hi HC
>
> Im using your installer yet again. Thank you for the great work. Just
> trying to find out why:
>
> All text objects in GEM wont work at all

Known issue... guess no one wants to fix it.

> Zexy objects - aliases - are all broken

I don't support aliases at in Pd-extended, I think they are kludgey.   
But someone else could do the work to get them working, I suppose.

> Alternate - broken
> line3 - broken
> remote - broken
> randomF - broken
> ascseq - broken
> invert - broken

Which libs?  I don't know the story on any of these.

.hc

>
> They have all been fully working objects in the past. Is there a
> reason for them to be disabled or have they migrated to a different
> library? If so what library?
> And finally, is there a way of keeping track of such changes?
>
> Thanks,
> timon
>
>
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[PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++

2007-02-20 Thread timon
Hi HC

Im using your installer yet again. Thank you for the great work. Just  
trying to find out why:

All text objects in GEM wont work at all
Zexy objects - aliases - are all broken
Alternate - broken
line3 - broken
remote - broken
randomF - broken
ascseq - broken
invert - broken

They have all been fully working objects in the past. Is there a  
reason for them to be disabled or have they migrated to a different  
library? If so what library?
And finally, is there a way of keeping track of such changes?

Thanks,
timon




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