Re: [PD] midi controller advice?
Hi Bryan, Sorry for the 3 month delay in responding to this :) . I bought the CME GPP3. One expression pedal, two switches. Seems a little flaky, gets itself in a muddle and needs to be restarted to get it going again. Quite cheap though and looks and feels lovely. I must take a look at the behringer as of when the time comes where I need more expression pedals. All the Best B, Cj On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 00:51 +0200, Bryan Jurish wrote: moin Conor, On 2007-08-06 23:56:30, Conor J Curran [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears to have written: Hi all, I was looking around recently for a foot controlled midi controller. The more expression pedals the better. I was under the impression that the expression pedals have a range of 0-127 (is this correct?). Yep, that's what mine do. I was hoping to map as many expression pedals to a controller number each in order for each pedal to control some aspect of an external. The only midi controller I could find which had a decent number of pedals was the fatar mp117. ... looks cool, but also very much like an organ-emulator rather than an expression pedal bank. I recently got a behringer fcb1010, which has 2 expression pedals, 10 bang stompers, and 2 vestigial stompers (device-internal use only). I've been using the bangs (via [pgmin]-[route]) to select where the expression pedal data goes (via [sprinkler]), which works quite well. the device itself is cheap but poorly constructed: in particular, the expression pedals use a good 80% of their physical range for maybe 10% of the data range ... with only whole byte values, that's a serious pain ... but hey, it's behringer: what did i expect?. I think roland and yamaha also make 1-2 expression pedal multi-bang stompboxes along the same lines, but have never used them. If I had the time, I'd get an arduino and a mess of burned out wah pedals on ebay and solder my own ;-) marmosets, Bryan ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] midi controller advice?
in case you still looking for it, i just seen one on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Behringer-MIDI-FOOT-CONTROLLER-FCB-1010_W0QQitemZ150168741822QQihZ005QQcategoryZ14987QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting Companies Act 2006 : http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/companyinfo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] midi controller advice?
I also use an FCB1010 with pretty good results. Mine has never failed and I have used it extensively and travelled with it with no problem whatsoever. My own experience with the expression pedals is very positive: not sure if I'm set up differently but the pedals are completely linear and they will give me nearly the whole range (probably around values between 5 and 127). I'm not sure I understand that 80% of the range giving 10% of the values comment. The exp controllers only use 7 bits and not 14, but I never found it to be a problem. I have an FCB1010 abstraction that I've made. If it's useful to anyone, email me and I can send it to you. On another note, I have had very good success building my own pedalboard based on an arduino. Right now mine has twelve carling momentary footswitches, and I'm planning to put in 6 jack sockets to connect expression pedals. The carling switches are not cheap (they cost me about £3ukp each) but they are very robust and they feel right to a guitar player. I had a metal fabrication company build me the casing from a drawing. The box is wedge shaped (lower towards me than the back) , and about 50cms long, 20cms deep, with two rows of 6 switches. That cost me about £60ukp. I'm very happy with it, and it responds better and faster in my estimation than the FCB1010. I loaded the arduino with HC Steiner's brilliant pduino firmware, and read the data with the pduino object. - martin On 07/08/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, adam armfield hat gesagt: // adam armfield wrote: I think the DIY route is a good one, depending on your abilities, you can get a fairly pre-made board from doepfer attach (screw on) jack sockets for up to 16 pedals (or more with expansion), or you might look at an even more DIY solution if you are good at soldering building stuff For example with the Arduino. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] midi controller advice?
moin Martin, On 2007-08-10 11:54:55, Martin Dupras [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears to have written: I also use an FCB1010 with pretty good results. I'm not sure I understand that 80% of the range giving 10% of the values comment. I get almost the full 0-127 range out of the pedals, but the problem is that When a pedal is ca. 80% pressed towards the top of its range, the MIDI value output is only about 13 (~= 127 * 0.1). The remaining 114 values all seem to reside in the final 20% of the physical pedal range. It's a bit of a pain to work with since the useful values in the 13-127 range are clumped so closely together, and that makes the pedal seem overly sensitive to me. I've read in another forum that such behavior is common among new-ish fcb1010 versions, and is a consequence of the the mechanical translation from the pedal position to the underlying potentiometer: since a rotary poti is used, the actual value plot ought to follow a sinus curve, but I haven't tested this systematically. I have an FCB1010 abstraction that I've made. If it's useful to anyone, email me and I can send it to you. I'm interested! In fact, I've written such an abstraction as well, which I'm also happy to share. marmosets, Bryan -- Bryan Jurish There is *always* one more bug. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] midi controller advice?
I think the DIY route is a good one, depending on your abilities, you can get a fairly pre-made board from doepfer attach (screw on) jack sockets for up to 16 pedals (or more with expansion), or you might look at an even more DIY solution if you are good at soldering building stuff one thing to look out for is the impedance... some generic pedals have an impedance matching circuit which would get round the problem of the board wanting 10k pots and the pedal having 50k ones (for instance) all the best adam ___ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] midi controller advice?
Hallo, adam armfield hat gesagt: // adam armfield wrote: I think the DIY route is a good one, depending on your abilities, you can get a fairly pre-made board from doepfer attach (screw on) jack sockets for up to 16 pedals (or more with expansion), or you might look at an even more DIY solution if you are good at soldering building stuff For example with the Arduino. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] midi controller advice?
Hi all, I was looking around recently for a foot controlled midi controller. The more expression pedals the better. I was under the impression that the expression pedals have a range of 0-127 (is this correct?). I was hoping to map as many expression pedals to a controller number each in order for each pedal to control some aspect of an external. The only midi controller I could find which had a decent number of pedals was the fatar mp117. The review in sound on sound didn't really leave me a good impression. Also this model seems to be more about playing an octave of a piano with feet as opposed to arbitrary assignment and control. Anybody have any suggestions? Best regards, Conor ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] midi controller advice?
moin Conor, On 2007-08-06 23:56:30, Conor J Curran [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears to have written: Hi all, I was looking around recently for a foot controlled midi controller. The more expression pedals the better. I was under the impression that the expression pedals have a range of 0-127 (is this correct?). Yep, that's what mine do. I was hoping to map as many expression pedals to a controller number each in order for each pedal to control some aspect of an external. The only midi controller I could find which had a decent number of pedals was the fatar mp117. ... looks cool, but also very much like an organ-emulator rather than an expression pedal bank. I recently got a behringer fcb1010, which has 2 expression pedals, 10 bang stompers, and 2 vestigial stompers (device-internal use only). I've been using the bangs (via [pgmin]-[route]) to select where the expression pedal data goes (via [sprinkler]), which works quite well. the device itself is cheap but poorly constructed: in particular, the expression pedals use a good 80% of their physical range for maybe 10% of the data range ... with only whole byte values, that's a serious pain ... but hey, it's behringer: what did i expect?. I think roland and yamaha also make 1-2 expression pedal multi-bang stompboxes along the same lines, but have never used them. If I had the time, I'd get an arduino and a mess of burned out wah pedals on ebay and solder my own ;-) marmosets, Bryan -- Bryan Jurish There is *always* one more bug. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
