date:20170923

[PD] Object sizing updates

2017-09-23 Thread Dan Wilcox

For those of you experiencing issues with object sizing problems with Pd 0.48, 
I might have a fix:

https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/227 


There is a test build for newer macs you can try out. It fixes the wide float 
and symbol atoms as well as introduces a few things of the old Pd-extended, 
including the extended font metrics. I increased the object vertical margins 
slightly due to the somewhat tighter spacing from the metrics and am satisfied 
the boxes are not too small which was my main issue with the changing the 
metrics alone. Feedback on this would be helpful, especially from those of you 
on Linux and Windows.

This is meant as a bug fix for 0.48-1, so no bells and whistles, but my more 
complex GUIs now render in GOP again.


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika 
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Re: [PD] trim symbols?

2017-09-23 Thread Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list

Thanks again!Very nice solution.Cheers! Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova 
00385(0)915225162

  From: Ingo Stock 
 To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at"  
 Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] trim symbols?
   
Here it is with some comments, you are welcome!


On 23/09/17 18:04, Hrvoje Radnic wrote:
> Wow, thanks everybody for great solutions!
> 
> Ingo's answer is the most satisfying for me because it stays in vanilla.
> For now, I will just subpatch it in my project and use it as a
> reference, but I must admit it will take some time before I really
> understand every part of that patch.
> 
> All the best!
>  
> Hrvoje Radnic
> http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
> 00385(0)915225162
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* Ingo Stock 
> *To:* pd-list@lists.iem.at
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 23, 2017 3:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [PD] trim symbols?
> 
> You can use [list fromsymbol] to convert the symbol to a list of ASCII
> values and than work on that. See attached patch, it should do what you
> want.
> 
> Note that the patch assumes that the ending (like .wav) is always 4
> characters. Also it uses a simple list-drip mechanism that should be
> efficient for small lists, in doubt use list-drip of list-abs instead.
> 
> best wishes, ingo
> 
> 
> On 23/09/17 14:33, Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I would like to display the name of the .wav file loaded from the HDD
>> (using [openpanel]), but, without a full path and without the file
>> extension. For example, [openpanel] outputs "symbol
>> C:/Users/Hrvoje/Desktop/my_patches/SAMP_SEQ/samples/BD.wav" and I just
>> want "BD" to be displayed. Is it possible in pd vanilla? Thank you for
>> the help!
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> Hrvoje Radnic
>> http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
>> 00385(0)915225162
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] trim symbols?

2017-09-23 Thread Ingo Stock

Here it is with some comments, you are welcome!


On 23/09/17 18:04, Hrvoje Radnic wrote:
> Wow, thanks everybody for great solutions!
> 
> Ingo's answer is the most satisfying for me because it stays in vanilla.
> For now, I will just subpatch it in my project and use it as a
> reference, but I must admit it will take some time before I really
> understand every part of that patch.
> 
> All the best!
>  
> Hrvoje Radnic
> http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
> 00385(0)915225162
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* Ingo Stock 
> *To:* pd-list@lists.iem.at
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 23, 2017 3:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [PD] trim symbols?
> 
> You can use [list fromsymbol] to convert the symbol to a list of ASCII
> values and than work on that. See attached patch, it should do what you
> want.
> 
> Note that the patch assumes that the ending (like .wav) is always 4
> characters. Also it uses a simple list-drip mechanism that should be
> efficient for small lists, in doubt use list-drip of list-abs instead.
> 
> best wishes, ingo
> 
> 
> On 23/09/17 14:33, Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I would like to display the name of the .wav file loaded from the HDD
>> (using [openpanel]), but, without a full path and without the file
>> extension. For example, [openpanel] outputs "symbol
>> C:/Users/Hrvoje/Desktop/my_patches/SAMP_SEQ/samples/BD.wav" and I just
>> want "BD" to be displayed. Is it possible in pd vanilla? Thank you for
>> the help!
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> Hrvoje Radnic
>> http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
>> 00385(0)915225162
>>
>>
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> 
#N canvas 193 51 713 503 10;
#X msg 49 46 C:/Users/Hrvoje/Desktop/my_patches/SAMP_SEQ/samples/BD.wav
;
#X obj 49 90 list fromsymbol;
#X obj 49 68 symbol;
#X obj 49 200 t f f;
#X obj 81 266 list prepend;
#X obj 81 288 t l;
#X obj 49 222 sel 47;
#X obj 49 310 list;
#X obj 49 420 list tosymbol;
#X symbolatom 49 442 10 0 0 0 - - -, f 10;
#X obj 49 332 t l l;
#X obj 49 398 list split;
#X obj 116 354 list length;
#X obj 116 376 - 4;
#N canvas 406 157 632 294 list-drip 0;
#X obj 39 113 t b l;
#X obj 39 135 until;
#X obj 39 157 list;
#X obj 39 179 list split 1;
#X obj 39 69 inlet;
#X obj 39 91 list;
#X obj 39 201 outlet;
#X obj 120 201 outlet;
#X text 183 89 <- Make sure it is a list just in case;
#X text 183 109 <- Hand down the list and start the loop;
#X text 183 129 <- Loop;
#X text 183 177 <- Output the first element \, send the rest up. If
the list is empty \, stop the loop;
#X text 36 41 List;
#X text 36 229 Elements;
#X text 116 229 Finished bang;
#X connect 0 0 1 0;
#X connect 0 1 2 1;
#X connect 1 0 2 0;
#X connect 2 0 3 0;
#X connect 3 0 6 0;
#X connect 3 1 2 1;
#X connect 3 2 1 1;
#X connect 3 2 7 0;
#X connect 4 0 5 0;
#X connect 5 0 0 0;
#X restore 49 134 pd list-drip;
#X text 237 68 <- convert to symbol just in case;
#X text 237 88 <- convert to list of ASCII values. Note the number
47 which stands for slash in ASCII;
#X obj 115 112 print ASCII;
#X text 237 134 <- simple list-drip (ok for small lists);
#X text 237 174 So the ASCII values are dripping down here...;
#X text 237 267 <- collect the values in a list again... But whenever
a 47 comes through \, delete the temporary list. So in the end the
list will only contain the values after the last slash.;
#X text 237 313 <- When list-drip is finished \, put the list through
;
#X text 237 399 <- Cut off the last 4 list elements;
#X text 237 419 <- Convert back to symbol;
#X connect 0 0 2 0;
#X connect 1 0 14 0;
#X connect 1 0 17 0;
#X connect 2 0 1 0;
#X connect 3 0 6 0;
#X connect 3 1 4 0;
#X connect 4 0 5 0;
#X connect 5 0 4 1;
#X connect 5 0 7 1;
#X connect 6 0 4 1;
#X connect 6 0 7 1;
#X connect 7 0 10 0;
#X connect 8 0 9 0;
#X connect 10 0 11 0;
#X connect 10 1 12 0;
#X connect 11 0 8 0;
#X connect 12 0 13 0;
#X connect 13 0 11 1;
#X connect 14 0 3 0;
#X connect 14 1 7 0;


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Re: [PD] trim symbols?

2017-09-23 Thread Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list

Wow, thanks everybody for great solutions! 

Ingo's answer is the most satisfying for me because it stays in vanilla. For 
now, I will just subpatch it in my project and use it as a reference, but I 
must admit it will take some time before I really understand every part of that 
patch.
All the best!
 Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova 
00385(0)915225162

  From: Ingo Stock 
 To: pd-list@lists.iem.at 
 Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 3:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] trim symbols?

You can use [list fromsymbol] to convert the symbol to a list of ASCII
values and than work on that. See attached patch, it should do what you
want.

Note that the patch assumes that the ending (like .wav) is always 4
characters. Also it uses a simple list-drip mechanism that should be
efficient for small lists, in doubt use list-drip of list-abs instead.

best wishes, ingo

On 23/09/17 14:33, Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I would like to display the name of the .wav file loaded from the HDD
> (using [openpanel]), but, without a full path and without the file
> extension. For example, [openpanel] outputs "symbol
> C:/Users/Hrvoje/Desktop/my_patches/SAMP_SEQ/samples/BD.wav" and I just
> want "BD" to be displayed. Is it possible in pd vanilla? Thank you for
> the help!
> Cheers!
>  
> Hrvoje Radnic
> http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
> 00385(0)915225162
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] trim symbols?

2017-09-23 Thread Max


Err, should have read the previous answers first. Consider this answered.


On 2017년 09월 23일 16:29, Max wrote:
I've always used [splitfilename] from iemlib for this. Or is it 
considered depreciated and there is a vanilla way to do this now?

I might change my patches to remove the iemlib dependency.


On 2017년 09월 23일 14:33, Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list wrote:

Hi!

I would like to display the name of the .wav file loaded from the HDD 
(using [openpanel]), but, without a full path and without the file 
extension. For example, [openpanel] outputs "symbol 
C:/Users/Hrvoje/Desktop/my_patches/SAMP_SEQ/samples/BD.wav" and I just 
want "BD" to be displayed. Is it possible in pd vanilla? Thank you for 
the help!

Cheers!
Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162


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Re: [PD] trim symbols?

2017-09-23 Thread Max

I've always used [splitfilename] from iemlib for this. Or is it 
considered depreciated and there is a vanilla way to do this now?

I might change my patches to remove the iemlib dependency.


On 2017년 09월 23일 14:33, Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list wrote:

Hi!

I would like to display the name of the .wav file loaded from the HDD 
(using [openpanel]), but, without a full path and without the file 
extension. For example, [openpanel] outputs "symbol 
C:/Users/Hrvoje/Desktop/my_patches/SAMP_SEQ/samples/BD.wav" and I just 
want "BD" to be displayed. Is it possible in pd vanilla? Thank you for 
the help!

Cheers!
Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162


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Re: [PD] trim symbols?

2017-09-23 Thread Dan Wilcox

See [p_basename] in rc-patches: https://github.com/danomatika/rc-patches 


> On Sep 23, 2017, at 3:15 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 12:33:36 + (UTC)
> From: Hrvoje Radnic >
> To: Pd-List >
> Subject: [PD] trim symbols?
> Message-ID: <103677175.8276496.1506170016...@mail.yahoo.com 
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi!
> I would like to display the name of the .wav file loaded from the HDD (using 
> [openpanel]), but, without a full path and without the file extension. For 
> example, [openpanel] outputs "symbol 
> C:/Users/Hrvoje/Desktop/my_patches/SAMP_SEQ/samples/BD.wav" and I just want 
> "BD" to be displayed. Is it possible in pd vanilla? Thank you for the 
> help!Cheers! Hrvoje Radnic


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika 
danomatika.com 
robotcowboy.com 



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Re: [PD] trim symbols?

2017-09-23 Thread Ingo Stock

You can use [list fromsymbol] to convert the symbol to a list of ASCII
values and than work on that. See attached patch, it should do what you
want.

Note that the patch assumes that the ending (like .wav) is always 4
characters. Also it uses a simple list-drip mechanism that should be
efficient for small lists, in doubt use list-drip of list-abs instead.

best wishes, ingo


On 23/09/17 14:33, Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I would like to display the name of the .wav file loaded from the HDD
> (using [openpanel]), but, without a full path and without the file
> extension. For example, [openpanel] outputs "symbol
> C:/Users/Hrvoje/Desktop/my_patches/SAMP_SEQ/samples/BD.wav" and I just
> want "BD" to be displayed. Is it possible in pd vanilla? Thank you for
> the help!
> Cheers!
>  
> Hrvoje Radnic
> http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
> 00385(0)915225162
> 
> 
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#N canvas 3 51 670 527 10;
#X msg 49 46 C:/Users/Hrvoje/Desktop/my_patches/SAMP_SEQ/samples/BD.wav
;
#X obj 49 90 list fromsymbol;
#X obj 49 68 symbol;
#X obj 49 112 t b l;
#X obj 49 134 until;
#X obj 49 156 list;
#X obj 49 178 list split 1;
#X obj 49 200 t f f;
#X obj 81 266 list prepend;
#X obj 81 288 t l;
#X obj 49 222 sel 47;
#X obj 49 310 list;
#X obj 49 420 list tosymbol;
#X symbolatom 49 442 10 0 0 0 - - -, f 10;
#X obj 49 332 t l l;
#X obj 49 398 list split;
#X obj 116 354 list length;
#X obj 116 376 - 4;
#X connect 0 0 2 0;
#X connect 1 0 3 0;
#X connect 2 0 1 0;
#X connect 3 0 4 0;
#X connect 3 1 5 1;
#X connect 4 0 5 0;
#X connect 5 0 6 0;
#X connect 6 0 7 0;
#X connect 6 1 5 1;
#X connect 6 2 4 1;
#X connect 6 2 11 0;
#X connect 7 0 10 0;
#X connect 7 1 8 0;
#X connect 8 0 9 0;
#X connect 9 0 8 1;
#X connect 9 0 11 1;
#X connect 10 0 8 1;
#X connect 10 0 11 1;
#X connect 11 0 14 0;
#X connect 12 0 13 0;
#X connect 14 0 15 0;
#X connect 14 1 16 0;
#X connect 15 0 12 0;
#X connect 16 0 17 0;
#X connect 17 0 15 1;


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Re: [PD] trim symbols?

2017-09-23 Thread Liam Goodacre

[list trim] works for symbols too! A little known secret.

From: Pd-list  on behalf of Hrvoje Radnic via 
Pd-list 
Sent: 23 September 2017 13:33
To: Pd-List
Subject: [PD] trim symbols?

Hi!

I would like to display the name of the .wav file loaded from the HDD (using 
[openpanel]), but, without a full path and without the file extension. For 
example, [openpanel] outputs "symbol 
C:/Users/Hrvoje/Desktop/my_patches/SAMP_SEQ/samples/BD.wav" and I just want 
"BD" to be displayed. Is it possible in pd vanilla? Thank you for the help!
Cheers!

Hrvoje Radnic
http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova
00385(0)915225162
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Re: [PD] GUI freeze

2017-09-23 Thread Ivica Bukvic

This is likely dur to a buggy implementation of a particular widget
redrawing which may be a third-party widget. It may be also due to out of
sequence execution of commands in case the widget does not enqueue all it's
GUI commands like it should. One way pd-l2ork 1.0 dresses this which is an
ugly workaround but at least it prevents you from losing GUI in the middle
of a performance is to process all TCL commands using the try/catch command
(can't remember the right syntax). This way if a TCL command fails, the GUI
will remain responsive. It is possible this introduces an additional
overhead in terms of CPU usage even though I have not observed any.

Best,

Ico

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On Sep 23, 2017 08:08, "Roman Haefeli"  wrote:

>
> BTW, A friend of mine and me, we have been experiencing it on Linux and
> on Windows with versions Pd 0.46 - 0.48.
>
> Roman
>
> On Fre, 2017-09-22 at 16:11 +0200, Johnny Mauser via Pd-list wrote:
> > I have the same behaviour in Ubuntu 16.04 and pd 0.46
> >
> > The only workarround i found was to construct the gui in another
> > instance.
> >
> > Am 22.09.2017 3:14 nachm. schrieb "Roman Haefeli"  > >:
> > Hey all
> >
> > Apologies for a somewhat vague bug report about a hard to reproduce
> > issues (yeah, everybody loves those).
> >
> > I tend to create instruments for netpd with lots of visual feeback
> > (song position in sequencer, triggered notes, automated values,
> > meters). Sometimes during sessions with rather many instruments, it
> > happens what I (only half-correctly) call a GUI freeze. Sliders,
> > number
> > atoms, symbol atoms, radios etc. stop visually reflecting any change.
> > They still do send new values through their outlet, but are not
> > updated
> > visually, neither when manually changed or when sending new values
> > through inlet or send symbol. When it happens, it affects all GUI
> > widgets of all patches the running Pd instance. It usually happens
> > after an error is printed to the Pd console:
> >
> >  (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name ".x88d5c68.c"
> > while executing
> > ".x88d5c68.c delete curve8cc3d94"
> > ("uplevel" body line 23)
> > invoked from within
> > "uplevel #0 $docmds"
> >
> >
> > Interestingly, when I minimize a canvas and unminimize (or switch
> > desktop away and back) it again, it all widgets display the current
> > values, though live changes are still not updated. Also not all
> > properties of the GUI widgets are affected. Label texts, label fonts,
> > background, foreground and label colors, also cnv dimensions and
> > similar things are still updated. Or in other words: Those aspects
> > that
> > work both ways (GUI -> pd and pd -> GUI) are affected, while the
> > supplemental features of the widgets that can't be controlled by
> > mouse
> > (pd -> GUI only) are not affected. The situation persists until I
> > restart Pd.
> >
> > That's again a vague statement, but I have the impression it got
> > slightly worse when switching from 0.47 to 0.48. I'm not able to
> > create
> > a simple patch that triggers the GUI freeze. However, I have saved
> > sessions that run reliably into this within minutes.
> >
> > Thanks for any thoughts on this.
> >
> > Roman
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[PD] trim symbols?

2017-09-23 Thread Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list

Hi!
I would like to display the name of the .wav file loaded from the HDD (using 
[openpanel]), but, without a full path and without the file extension. For 
example, [openpanel] outputs "symbol 
C:/Users/Hrvoje/Desktop/my_patches/SAMP_SEQ/samples/BD.wav" and I just want 
"BD" to be displayed. Is it possible in pd vanilla? Thank you for the 
help!Cheers! Hrvoje Radnic
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Re: [PD] GUI freeze

2017-09-23 Thread Roman Haefeli


BTW, A friend of mine and me, we have been experiencing it on Linux and
on Windows with versions Pd 0.46 - 0.48.

Roman 

On Fre, 2017-09-22 at 16:11 +0200, Johnny Mauser via Pd-list wrote:
> I have the same behaviour in Ubuntu 16.04 and pd 0.46
> 
> The only workarround i found was to construct the gui in another
> instance.
> 
> Am 22.09.2017 3:14 nachm. schrieb "Roman Haefeli"  >:
> Hey all
> 
> Apologies for a somewhat vague bug report about a hard to reproduce
> issues (yeah, everybody loves those).
> 
> I tend to create instruments for netpd with lots of visual feeback
> (song position in sequencer, triggered notes, automated values,
> meters). Sometimes during sessions with rather many instruments, it
> happens what I (only half-correctly) call a GUI freeze. Sliders,
> number
> atoms, symbol atoms, radios etc. stop visually reflecting any change.
> They still do send new values through their outlet, but are not
> updated
> visually, neither when manually changed or when sending new values
> through inlet or send symbol. When it happens, it affects all GUI
> widgets of all patches the running Pd instance. It usually happens
> after an error is printed to the Pd console:
> 
>  (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name ".x88d5c68.c"
> while executing
> ".x88d5c68.c delete curve8cc3d94"
> ("uplevel" body line 23)
> invoked from within
> "uplevel #0 $docmds"
> 
> 
> Interestingly, when I minimize a canvas and unminimize (or switch
> desktop away and back) it again, it all widgets display the current
> values, though live changes are still not updated. Also not all
> properties of the GUI widgets are affected. Label texts, label fonts,
> background, foreground and label colors, also cnv dimensions and
> similar things are still updated. Or in other words: Those aspects
> that
> work both ways (GUI -> pd and pd -> GUI) are affected, while the
> supplemental features of the widgets that can't be controlled by
> mouse
> (pd -> GUI only) are not affected. The situation persists until I
> restart Pd. 
> 
> That's again a vague statement, but I have the impression it got
> slightly worse when switching from 0.47 to 0.48. I'm not able to
> create
> a simple patch that triggers the GUI freeze. However, I have saved
> sessions that run reliably into this within minutes. 
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts on this.
> 
> Roman
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