Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Miller Puckette]

Thanks for the testing - may I ask you to test my builds, just to make sure?

http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/misc/pd-0.49-1test1.mac.tar.gz
http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/misc/pd-0.49-1test1-i386.mac.tar.gz

thanks
Miller

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 01:00:01AM +0200, Edwin van der Heide wrote:
> It does solve the problem for me!
> 
> > On 11 Oct 2018, at 17:24, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> > 
> > Can y'all try this test build: Pd-0.49-0test3-keyfix4.zip 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Oct 11, 2018, at 1:15 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:59:28 +0200
> >> From: Edwin van der Heide mailto:p...@evdh.net>>
> >> To: pd-list mailto:pd-l...@iem.at>>
> >> Subject: Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches
> >> Message-ID:  >> >
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> 
> >> For me PD crashes when I create a new file, not when I overwrite an 
> >> existing file.
> >> 
> >>> On 11 Oct 2018, at 12:44, Dario Sanfilippo  >>> > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I also get a seg fault:
> >>> 
> >>> Segmentation fault: 11
> >>> gui socket 3 - 
> >>> closing audio...
> >>> 
> >>> >
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Edwin van der Heide  >>>  >> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> 
> >>> Yes, the same thing happens to me on macOS 10.13.6.
> >>> 
> >>> Bellow follows a part of the crash report.
> >>> 
> >>> If needed I could learn how to compile PD on OS X and run it in debug 
> >>> mode.
> >>> 
> >>> Best,
> >>> 
> >>> Edwin
> > 
> > 
> > Dan Wilcox
> > @danomatika 
> > danomatika.com 
> > robotcowboy.com 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Edwin van der Heide]

It does solve the problem for me!

> On 11 Oct 2018, at 17:24, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> Can y'all try this test build: Pd-0.49-0test3-keyfix4.zip 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 1:15 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:59:28 +0200
>> From: Edwin van der Heide mailto:p...@evdh.net>>
>> To: pd-list mailto:pd-l...@iem.at>>
>> Subject: Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches
>> Message-ID: > >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> For me PD crashes when I create a new file, not when I overwrite an existing 
>> file.
>> 
>>> On 11 Oct 2018, at 12:44, Dario Sanfilippo >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also get a seg fault:
>>> 
>>> Segmentation fault: 11
>>> gui socket 3 - 
>>> closing audio...
>>> 
>>> >
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Edwin van der Heide >>  >> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Yes, the same thing happens to me on macOS 10.13.6.
>>> 
>>> Bellow follows a part of the crash report.
>>> 
>>> If needed I could learn how to compile PD on OS X and run it in debug mode.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Edwin
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com 
> robotcowboy.com 
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Dan Wilcox]

I would also blow away any tk or tcl build trees in /mac before building Tk. 
The script will keep going if the patch is already applied, but you might as 
well be sure.

> On Oct 11, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Miller Puckette  wrote:
> 
> Cool... I'll attempt that this evening when I can get to my Mac :)
> 
> M
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 08:54:52PM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>> Seems so. Phil Stone reports a similar issue where the full key fixes don't 
>> seem to be reflected in the release build.
>> 
>> I think you just need to re-run mac/tcltk-wish.sh 8.5.19 to apply the latest 
>> patch, then remake the app bundle with mac/osx-app.sh. Also, check the 
>> output from mac/tcltk-wish.sh to see if the patch was applied.


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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Miller Puckette]

Cool... I'll attempt that this evening when I can get to my Mac :)

M

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 08:54:52PM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
> Seems so. Phil Stone reports a similar issue where the full key fixes don't 
> seem to be reflected in the release build.
> 
> I think you just need to re-run mac/tcltk-wish.sh 8.5.19 to apply the latest 
> patch, then remake the app bundle with mac/osx-app.sh. Also, check the output 
> from mac/tcltk-wish.sh to see if the patch was applied.
> 
> > On Oct 11, 2018, at 8:40 PM, Miller Puckette  wrote:
> > 
> > Is this then just because (apparently) I didn't manage to get the latest
> > fixes to Tcl/Tk 8.5 into 0.49-0?  
> > 
> > thanks
> > M
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 08:30:18PM +0200, Dario Sanfilippo wrote:
> >> Hi, Dan.
> >> 
> >> This seems to work.
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> Dario
> >> 
> >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 17:24, Dan Wilcox  >> > wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Can y'all try this test build: Pd-0.49-0test3-keyfix4.zip
> >>>  >>> >
> >>> 
> >>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 1:15 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:59:28 +0200
> >>> From: Edwin van der Heide 
> >>> To: pd-list 
> >>> Subject: Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches
> >>> Message-ID: 
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>> 
> >>> For me PD crashes when I create a new file, not when I overwrite an
> >>> existing file.
> >>> 
> >>> On 11 Oct 2018, at 12:44, Dario Sanfilippo 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I also get a seg fault:
> >>> 
> >>> Segmentation fault: 11
> >>> gui socket 3 -
> >>> closing audio...
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Edwin van der Heide  >>>  <
> >>> mailto:ed...@evdh.net   >>>  >>> Hello,
> >>> 
> >>> Yes, the same thing happens to me on macOS 10.13.6.
> >>> 
> >>> Bellow follows a part of the crash report.
> >>> 
> >>> If needed I could learn how to compile PD on OS X and run it in debug 
> >>> mode.
> >>> 
> >>> Best,
> >>> 
> >>> Edwin
> 
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com 
> robotcowboy.com 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Dan Wilcox]

Seems so. Phil Stone reports a similar issue where the full key fixes don't 
seem to be reflected in the release build.

I think you just need to re-run mac/tcltk-wish.sh 8.5.19 to apply the latest 
patch, then remake the app bundle with mac/osx-app.sh. Also, check the output 
from mac/tcltk-wish.sh to see if the patch was applied.

> On Oct 11, 2018, at 8:40 PM, Miller Puckette  wrote:
> 
> Is this then just because (apparently) I didn't manage to get the latest
> fixes to Tcl/Tk 8.5 into 0.49-0?  
> 
> thanks
> M
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 08:30:18PM +0200, Dario Sanfilippo wrote:
>> Hi, Dan.
>> 
>> This seems to work.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dario
>> 
>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 17:24, Dan Wilcox > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Can y'all try this test build: Pd-0.49-0test3-keyfix4.zip
>>> >> >
>>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 1:15 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
>>> 
>>> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:59:28 +0200
>>> From: Edwin van der Heide 
>>> To: pd-list 
>>> Subject: Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches
>>> Message-ID: 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> For me PD crashes when I create a new file, not when I overwrite an
>>> existing file.
>>> 
>>> On 11 Oct 2018, at 12:44, Dario Sanfilippo 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also get a seg fault:
>>> 
>>> Segmentation fault: 11
>>> gui socket 3 -
>>> closing audio...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Edwin van der Heide >>  <
>>> mailto:ed...@evdh.net  >> >> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Yes, the same thing happens to me on macOS 10.13.6.
>>> 
>>> Bellow follows a part of the crash report.
>>> 
>>> If needed I could learn how to compile PD on OS X and run it in debug mode.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Edwin


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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Miller Puckette]

Is this then just because (apparently) I didn't manage to get the latest
fixes to Tcl/Tk 8.5 into 0.49-0?  

thanks
M

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 08:30:18PM +0200, Dario Sanfilippo wrote:
> Hi, Dan.
> 
> This seems to work.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dario
> 
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 17:24, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> > Can y'all try this test build: Pd-0.49-0test3-keyfix4.zip
> > 
> >
> > On Oct 11, 2018, at 1:15 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> >
> > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:59:28 +0200
> > From: Edwin van der Heide 
> > To: pd-list 
> > Subject: Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > For me PD crashes when I create a new file, not when I overwrite an
> > existing file.
> >
> > On 11 Oct 2018, at 12:44, Dario Sanfilippo 
> > wrote:
> >
> > I also get a seg fault:
> >
> > Segmentation fault: 11
> > gui socket 3 -
> > closing audio...
> >
> > 
> >
> > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Edwin van der Heide  > mailto:ed...@evdh.net >> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Yes, the same thing happens to me on macOS 10.13.6.
> >
> > Bellow follows a part of the crash report.
> >
> > If needed I could learn how to compile PD on OS X and run it in debug mode.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Edwin
> >
> >
> > 
> > Dan Wilcox
> > @danomatika 
> > danomatika.com
> > robotcowboy.com
> >
> >
> >
> >

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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Dario Sanfilippo]

Hi, Dan.

This seems to work.

Thanks,
Dario

On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 17:24, Dan Wilcox  wrote:

> Can y'all try this test build: Pd-0.49-0test3-keyfix4.zip
> 
>
> On Oct 11, 2018, at 1:15 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:59:28 +0200
> From: Edwin van der Heide 
> To: pd-list 
> Subject: Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> For me PD crashes when I create a new file, not when I overwrite an
> existing file.
>
> On 11 Oct 2018, at 12:44, Dario Sanfilippo 
> wrote:
>
> I also get a seg fault:
>
> Segmentation fault: 11
> gui socket 3 -
> closing audio...
>
> 
>
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Edwin van der Heide  mailto:ed...@evdh.net >> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Yes, the same thing happens to me on macOS 10.13.6.
>
> Bellow follows a part of the crash report.
>
> If needed I could learn how to compile PD on OS X and run it in debug mode.
>
> Best,
>
> Edwin
>
>
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Dan Wilcox]

Can y'all try this test build: Pd-0.49-0test3-keyfix4.zip 


> On Oct 11, 2018, at 1:15 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:59:28 +0200
> From: Edwin van der Heide mailto:p...@evdh.net>>
> To: pd-list mailto:pd-l...@iem.at>>
> Subject: Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches
> Message-ID:  >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> For me PD crashes when I create a new file, not when I overwrite an existing 
> file.
> 
>> On 11 Oct 2018, at 12:44, Dario Sanfilippo > > wrote:
>> 
>> I also get a seg fault:
>> 
>> Segmentation fault: 11
>> gui socket 3 - 
>> closing audio...
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Edwin van der Heide >  >> 
>> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Yes, the same thing happens to me on macOS 10.13.6.
>> 
>> Bellow follows a part of the crash report.
>> 
>> If needed I could learn how to compile PD on OS X and run it in debug mode.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Edwin


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Re: [PD] "Could'nt create"...

[Dan Wilcox]

That could also be one object: [declare -lib tof -lib iemlib -lib unauthorized]

> On Oct 11, 2018, at 3:27 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:07:04 + (UTC)
> From: Ed Kelly mailto:morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk>>
> 
> ERRATA![declare -lib tof][declare -lib iemlib][declare -lib unauthorized]
> THEN select all, deselect these 3 etc.
> Never be afraid to admit you were wrong!ED


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Re: [PD] "Could'nt create"...

[Ed Kelly via Pd-list]

ERRATA![declare -lib tof][declare -lib iemlib][declare -lib unauthorized]
THEN select all, deselect these 3 etc.
Never be afraid to admit you were wrong!ED

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On Thursday, 11 October 2018, 13:55:59 GMT+1, Ed Kelly 
 wrote:  
 
 knob is from tof, mknob is from moonlib. splitfilename is from iemlib. I don't 
know about "Folder_list" but folderpanel exists within tof. Perhaps it was 
something from unauthorized?
If you download a library using deken ("Find Externals" in the help menu), you 
need to declare it before you use it.
So with your patches of old, put a
[declare -lib tof iemlib unauthorized]
in the patch. The select all, then shift-click the declare to de-select it, and 
cut+paste everything else. Save the patch and it should work when you load it 
again. This puts the [declare] object at the start of the.pd file, so the 
library will be loaded before the patch.

Yes Pd has changed a lot recently and this information should really be given 
in a helpful manner, in the spirit of openness.
x
e




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On Monday, 8 October 2018, 14:21:29 GMT+1, Christof Ressi 
 wrote:  
 
 sliders are for losers, use float atoms instead /irony off

Gesendet: Montag, 08. Oktober 2018 um 14:12 Uhr
Von: "Matt Davey" 
An: "Lucas Cordiviola" 
Cc: "PD List" 
Betreff: Re: [PD] "Could'nt create"...

[knob] is just silly GUI candy for losers, just use pd sliders instead.
 
[splitfilename] you can probably do with [list tosymbol] in vanilla
 
[Folder_list] is something that vanilla pd sorely lacks though...  feature 
request! 

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:51 PM Lucas Cordiviola 
mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com]> wrote:
Probably you are using the rather new 64-bit Pd. We are working to upload all 
the external catalogue for windows64 but it will take time.
You can still use the 32bit Pd and you will find almost all old externals.
You can also try to compile for w64 and upload to Deken (this might be to much 
to ask :) )
You can also modify your patches and find ways to not use [externals] that you 
can't get now.
 
:)
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 10/8/2018 7:05 AM, David Schaffer wrote:
Thank you !
 
What about objects that are part of deprecated libraries that are not showing  
up in Deken ? Is it still possible to install them manually ? is it recommanded 
?
 
Thank you,
 
D S
 


De : Lucas Cordiviola [mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com]
Envoyé : Monday, October 8, 2018 11:46:47 AM
À : David Schaffer; pd list
Objet : Re: [PD] "Could'nt create"...
 
Hi,
See 
http://blazicek.net/list_of_pure_data_objects.html[http://blazicek.net/list_of_pure_data_objects.html]
or 
https://puredata.info/docs/ListOfPdExternals/[https://puredata.info/docs/ListOfPdExternals/]
this last one can be edited/maintained by the community.
 
:)
 
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On 10/8/2018 6:18 AM, David Schaffer wrote:
 
Hi everybody,
 
I’ve been away from pd for about a year and, in the meantime, switched from mac 
to pc. I just reeinstalled the latest version of vanilla for Windows and I’m 
trying to reopen my old patches. There’s a few objects that won’t pop up and I 
can’t identify the libraries I’m missing. I thought you guys could help me 
figure that out.
The objects are : Knob, splitfilename, Folder_list.
 
Thank you very much for your help.
 
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Re: [PD] "Could'nt create"...

[Ed Kelly via Pd-list]

knob is from tof, mknob is from moonlib. splitfilename is from iemlib. I don't 
know about "Folder_list" but folderpanel exists within tof. Perhaps it was 
something from unauthorized?
If you download a library using deken ("Find Externals" in the help menu), you 
need to declare it before you use it.
So with your patches of old, put a
[declare -lib tof iemlib unauthorized]
in the patch. The select all, then shift-click the declare to de-select it, and 
cut+paste everything else. Save the patch and it should work when you load it 
again. This puts the [declare] object at the start of the.pd file, so the 
library will be loaded before the patch.

Yes Pd has changed a lot recently and this information should really be given 
in a helpful manner, in the spirit of openness.
x
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On Monday, 8 October 2018, 14:21:29 GMT+1, Christof Ressi 
 wrote:  
 
 sliders are for losers, use float atoms instead /irony off

Gesendet: Montag, 08. Oktober 2018 um 14:12 Uhr
Von: "Matt Davey" 
An: "Lucas Cordiviola" 
Cc: "PD List" 
Betreff: Re: [PD] "Could'nt create"...

[knob] is just silly GUI candy for losers, just use pd sliders instead.
 
[splitfilename] you can probably do with [list tosymbol] in vanilla
 
[Folder_list] is something that vanilla pd sorely lacks though...  feature 
request! 

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:51 PM Lucas Cordiviola 
mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com]> wrote:
Probably you are using the rather new 64-bit Pd. We are working to upload all 
the external catalogue for windows64 but it will take time.
You can still use the 32bit Pd and you will find almost all old externals.
You can also try to compile for w64 and upload to Deken (this might be to much 
to ask :) )
You can also modify your patches and find ways to not use [externals] that you 
can't get now.
 
:)
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 10/8/2018 7:05 AM, David Schaffer wrote:
Thank you !
 
What about objects that are part of deprecated libraries that are not showing  
up in Deken ? Is it still possible to install them manually ? is it recommanded 
?
 
Thank you,
 
D S
 


De : Lucas Cordiviola [mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com]
Envoyé : Monday, October 8, 2018 11:46:47 AM
À : David Schaffer; pd list
Objet : Re: [PD] "Could'nt create"...
 
Hi,
See 
http://blazicek.net/list_of_pure_data_objects.html[http://blazicek.net/list_of_pure_data_objects.html]
or 
https://puredata.info/docs/ListOfPdExternals/[https://puredata.info/docs/ListOfPdExternals/]
this last one can be edited/maintained by the community.
 
:)
 
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 10/8/2018 6:18 AM, David Schaffer wrote:
 
Hi everybody,
 
I’ve been away from pd for about a year and, in the meantime, switched from mac 
to pc. I just reeinstalled the latest version of vanilla for Windows and I’m 
trying to reopen my old patches. There’s a few objects that won’t pop up and I 
can’t identify the libraries I’m missing. I thought you guys could help me 
figure that out.
The objects are : Knob, splitfilename, Folder_list.
 
Thank you very much for your help.
 
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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Edwin van der Heide]

For me PD crashes when I create a new file, not when I overwrite an existing 
file.

> On 11 Oct 2018, at 12:44, Dario Sanfilippo  wrote:
> 
> I also get a seg fault:
> 
> Segmentation fault: 11
> gui socket 3 - 
> closing audio...
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Edwin van der Heide  > wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Yes, the same thing happens to me on macOS 10.13.6.
> 
> Bellow follows a part of the crash report.
> 
> If needed I could learn how to compile PD on OS X and run it in debug mode.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Edwin
> -
> 
> Process:   Pd [4901]
> Path:  /Applications/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd
> Identifier:org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> Version:   0.49.0 (0.49.0)
> Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
> Parent Process:??? [1]
> Responsible:   Pd [4901]
> User ID:   502
> 
> Date/Time: 2018-10-11 12:26:19.262 +0200
> OS Version:Mac OS X 10.13.6 (17G65)
> Report Version:12
> Bridge OS Version: 3.0 (14Y664)
> Anonymous UUID:4749B67C-5108-801A-4DA2-058DCFA8D84B
> 
> Sleep/Wake UUID:   EDB9ABA2-F223-4CB0-A8DF-C7D1077DB2DC
> 
> Time Awake Since Boot: 10 seconds
> Time Since Wake:   12000 seconds
> 
> System Integrity Protection: enabled
> 
> Crashed Thread:0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
> 
> Exception Type:EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
> Exception Codes:   KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x
> Exception Note:EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY
> 
> Termination Signal:Segmentation fault: 11
> Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
> Terminating Process:   exc handler [0]
> 
> VM Regions Near 0:
> --> 
> __TEXT 0001-00015000 [   20K] r-x/rwx 
> SM=COW  |  [/Applications/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd]
> 
> Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
> 0   Tk  0x0001000bfd0f XUngrabKeyboard + 
> 681
> 1   Tk  0x0001000c01d6 XGrabKeyboard + 956
> 2   Tk  0x0001000c697f 
> Tk_MacOSXSetupTkNotifier + 692
> 3   Tcl 0x0001001c8ebf Tcl_DoOneEvent + 
> 297
> 4   Tk  0x00010001ba94 Tk_MainLoop + 24
> 5   Tk  0x000100028871 Tk_MainEx + 1797
> 6   Pd  0x0001447c 0x1 + 17532
> 7   Pd  0x000143d8 0x1 + 17368
> 
> Thread 1:
> 0   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff57bb8cf2 __select + 10
> 1   Tcl 0x0001001fd1b3 Tcl_InitNotifier + 
> 1592
> 2   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d80661 _pthread_body + 340
> 3   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d8050d _pthread_start + 
> 377
> 4   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d7fbf9 thread_start + 13
> 
> Thread 2:: CVDisplayLink
> 0   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff57bb8a16 __psynch_cvwait + 
> 10
> 1   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d815c2 _pthread_cond_wait 
> + 789
> 2   com.apple.CoreVideo 0x7fff317eb3f3 
> CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 237
> 3   com.apple.CoreVideo 0x7fff317ea9a4 
> CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 500
> 4   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d80661 _pthread_body + 340
> 5   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d8050d _pthread_start + 
> 377
> 6   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d7fbf9 thread_start + 13
> 
> Thread 3:: com.apple.NSEventThread
> 0   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff57baf20a mach_msg_trap + 10
> 1   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff57bae724 mach_msg + 60
> 2   com.apple.CoreFoundation0x7fff2fc14785 
> __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 341
> 3   com.apple.CoreFoundation0x7fff2fc13ad7 __CFRunLoopRun + 
> 1783
> 4   com.apple.CoreFoundation0x7fff2fc13153 
> CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 483
> 5   com.apple.AppKit0x7fff2d2ebfc4 _NSEventThread + 
> 184
> 6   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d80661 _pthread_body + 340
> 7   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d8050d _pthread_start + 
> 377
> 8   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d7fbf9 thread_start + 13
> 
> Thread 4:
> 0   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d7fbdc start_wqthread + 0
> 1   ??? 0x0b80 0 + 2944
> 
> Thread 5:
> 0   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff57bb928a __workq_kernreturn 
> + 10
> 1   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d8020e _pthread_wqthread 
> + 1552
> 2   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d7fbe9 start_wqthread + 13
> 
> Thread 

[PD] heavy, bela etc.

[Simon Iten]

just as a quick update for those that did not yet realize it. 
(there was a short discussion about this on the list about a year back, but i 
cannot find it)

bela, the low latency audio platform can run pd patches in two ways:

-through libpd, so all vanilla objects are supported

-through heavy which used to be an online closed source compiler that created 
optimized c code from pd patches (a substantial subset of vanilla objects)
this service has recently been shutdown but the code has been opensourced. 
means you can run the heavy compiler locally!

if somebody has interest in the codebase of heavy, or even wants to jump in and 
develop it further (adding more vanilla objects for example) check it out:

https://github.com/enzienaudio/hvcc 




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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Dario Sanfilippo]

I also get a seg fault:

Segmentation fault: 11

gui socket 3 -

closing audio...




On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Edwin van der Heide  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Yes, the same thing happens to me on macOS 10.13.6.
>
> Bellow follows a part of the crash report.
>
> If needed I could learn how to compile PD on OS X and run it in debug mode.
>
> Best,
>
> Edwin
> -
>
> Process:   Pd [4901]
> Path:  /Applications/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd
> Identifier:org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
> Version:   0.49.0 (0.49.0)
> Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
> Parent Process:??? [1]
> Responsible:   Pd [4901]
> User ID:   502
>
> Date/Time: 2018-10-11 12:26:19.262 +0200
> OS Version:Mac OS X 10.13.6 (17G65)
> Report Version:12
> Bridge OS Version: 3.0 (14Y664)
> Anonymous UUID:4749B67C-5108-801A-4DA2-058DCFA8D84B
>
> Sleep/Wake UUID:   EDB9ABA2-F223-4CB0-A8DF-C7D1077DB2DC
>
> Time Awake Since Boot: 10 seconds
> Time Since Wake:   12000 seconds
>
> System Integrity Protection: enabled
>
> Crashed Thread:0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
>
> Exception Type:EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
> Exception Codes:   KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x
> Exception Note:EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY
>
> Termination Signal:Segmentation fault: 11
> Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
> Terminating Process:   exc handler [0]
>
> VM Regions Near 0:
> -->
> __TEXT 0001-00015000 [   20K]
> r-x/rwx SM=COW  |  [/Applications/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd]
>
> Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
> 0   Tk  0x0001000bfd0f XUngrabKeyboard
> + 681
> 1   Tk  0x0001000c01d6 XGrabKeyboard +
> 956
> 2   Tk  0x0001000c697f
> Tk_MacOSXSetupTkNotifier + 692
> 3   Tcl 0x0001001c8ebf Tcl_DoOneEvent
> + 297
> 4   Tk  0x00010001ba94 Tk_MainLoop + 24
> 5   Tk  0x000100028871 Tk_MainEx + 1797
> 6   Pd  0x0001447c 0x1 +
> 17532
> 7   Pd  0x000143d8 0x1 +
> 17368
>
> Thread 1:
> 0   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff57bb8cf2 __select + 10
> 1   Tcl 0x0001001fd1b3
> Tcl_InitNotifier + 1592
> 2   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d80661 _pthread_body +
> 340
> 3   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d8050d _pthread_start
> + 377
> 4   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d7fbf9 thread_start +
> 13
>
> Thread 2:: CVDisplayLink
> 0   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff57bb8a16 __psynch_cvwait
> + 10
> 1   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d815c2
> _pthread_cond_wait + 789
> 2   com.apple.CoreVideo 0x7fff317eb3f3
> CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 237
> 3   com.apple.CoreVideo 0x7fff317ea9a4
> CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 500
> 4   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d80661 _pthread_body +
> 340
> 5   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d8050d _pthread_start
> + 377
> 6   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d7fbf9 thread_start +
> 13
>
> Thread 3:: com.apple.NSEventThread
> 0   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff57baf20a mach_msg_trap +
> 10
> 1   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff57bae724 mach_msg + 60
> 2   com.apple.CoreFoundation0x7fff2fc14785
> __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 341
> 3   com.apple.CoreFoundation0x7fff2fc13ad7 __CFRunLoopRun
> + 1783
> 4   com.apple.CoreFoundation0x7fff2fc13153
> CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 483
> 5   com.apple.AppKit0x7fff2d2ebfc4 _NSEventThread
> + 184
> 6   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d80661 _pthread_body +
> 340
> 7   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d8050d _pthread_start
> + 377
> 8   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d7fbf9 thread_start +
> 13
>
> Thread 4:
> 0   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d7fbdc start_wqthread
> + 0
> 1   ??? 0x0b80 0 + 2944
>
> Thread 5:
> 0   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff57bb928a
> __workq_kernreturn + 10
> 1   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d8020e
> _pthread_wqthread + 1552
> 2   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d7fbe9 start_wqthread
> + 13
>
> Thread 6:
> 0   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff57bb928a
> __workq_kernreturn + 10
> 1   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff57d8020e
> _pthread_wqthread + 1552
> 2   

Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Peter P.]

* Christof Ressi  [2018-10-11 12:16]:
> would one of them be able to compile Pd in debug mode and then run it in a 
> debugger to find out where it is crashing?
The fellows I mentioned will not be able to do that. Me personally I
don't use OS X. Perhaps Dario is up to it?



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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Christof Ressi]

would one of them be able to compile Pd in debug mode and then run it in a 
debugger to find out where it is crashing?

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2018 um 11:46 Uhr
> Von: "Peter P." 
> An: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Betreff: Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches
>
> * Dario Sanfilippo  [2018-10-11 11:24]:
> > Hello.
> > 
> > I just wanted to let you know that PD .49 crashes almost regularly after
> > saving a patch. I've just tested opening PD, saving a simple patch with an
> > inlet~ and another with an inlet, either with the DSP on or off, and it
> > crashes immediately after saving the patch. It does manage to write the
> > file, though.
> > 
> > It doesn't crash if the patch that I save is empty.
> > 
> > Has anything similar happened to you? I'm on OSZ 10.11.6.
> Yes, I heard from two or three other users that this happens with recent
> OS X Versions and Pd .49 64bit as well.
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Peter P.]

* Dario Sanfilippo  [2018-10-11 11:24]:
> Hello.
> 
> I just wanted to let you know that PD .49 crashes almost regularly after
> saving a patch. I've just tested opening PD, saving a simple patch with an
> inlet~ and another with an inlet, either with the DSP on or off, and it
> crashes immediately after saving the patch. It does manage to write the
> file, though.
> 
> It doesn't crash if the patch that I save is empty.
> 
> Has anything similar happened to you? I'm on OSZ 10.11.6.
Yes, I heard from two or three other users that this happens with recent
OS X Versions and Pd .49 64bit as well.



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[PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches

[Dario Sanfilippo]

Hello.

I just wanted to let you know that PD .49 crashes almost regularly after
saving a patch. I've just tested opening PD, saving a simple patch with an
inlet~ and another with an inlet, either with the DSP on or off, and it
crashes immediately after saving the patch. It does manage to write the
file, though.

It doesn't crash if the patch that I save is empty.

Has anything similar happened to you? I'm on OSZ 10.11.6.

Dario
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