[PD] Fresh XP install, extended works but not vanilla?

[JF via Pd-list]

Hi all,

I've come across a problem that has me stumped.

I've recently bought another laptop which is the same model/spec as my current 
one. I've installed Win XP SP2 (again, same as other laptop) fresh from the OEM 
disc, and tried to run PD vanilla and it wouldn't open. Nothing happened when 
double clicking the EXE.

I downloaded the latest vanilla version (I think I had been running an older 
version) from Miller's page and the latest extended. Again vanilla wouldn't 
run. Extended installed fine though and that works. I thought tha installing 
extended might 'fix' vanilla but that still won't run.

I opened the command line and ran the pd.com and it said there was an TCL 
error? But no windows pop up and nothing else happens. I don't have much info 
to go on...

pd.com

spawnl: Invalid argument
C:\pd\bin\wish85.exe: couldn't load TCL


Does anybody know how I should attack this? Or can anyone help?

Thanks in advance as always,
John.
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Re: [PD] Fresh XP install, extended works but not vanilla?

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Nobody?



On Wednesday, 20 August 2014, 19:46, JF sainti...@yahoo.com wrote:
 



Hi all,


I've come across a problem that has me stumped.


I've recently bought another laptop which is the same model/spec as my current 
one. I've installed Win XP SP2 (again, same as other laptop) fresh from the 
OEM disc, and tried to run PD vanilla and it wouldn't open. Nothing happened 
when double clicking the EXE.


I downloaded the latest vanilla version (I think I had been running an older 
version) from Miller's page and the latest extended. Again vanilla wouldn't 
run. Extended installed fine though and that works. I thought tha installing 
extended might 'fix' vanilla but that still won't run.


I opened the command line and ran the pd.com and it said there was an TCL 
error? But no windows pop up and nothing else happens. I don't have much info 
to go on...


pd.com

spawnl: Invalid argument
C:\pd\bin\wish85.exe: couldn't load TCL



Does anybody know how I should attack this? Or can anyone help?


Thanks in advance as always,
John.

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Re: [PD] Fresh XP install, extended works but not vanilla?

[JF via Pd-list]

Thanks guys. I've decided to abandon this idea and just clone my current XP 
harddisk as it will be going into an identical machine. I liked the idea of a 
fresh install – who knows what amount of registry gremlins I've picked up over 
the years – but my current disk works, it's fast and the audio performance is 
good not to mention all my software configurations, tweaks etc. don't have to 
be re-done.

Thanks for the ideas. I already tried putting the /pd folder right at root C: 
still didn't run. Also it didn't run before I installed extended so the 
registry idea doesn't help either.

If it aint broke etc.

On Wednesday, 3 September 2014, 15:20, Py Fave pyf...@gmail.com wrote:
 



some ideas

first check if your pd path contains spaces.

where on your disk is pd ?

then check if pd-extended installer put some keys in registry,
wich would mess with vanilla.




2014-09-03 3:31 GMT+02:00 Max abonneme...@revolwear.com:
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 Hash: SHA1

 I guess it might be hard to find someone with a fresh XP install
 since it is EOL.


 On 09/03/2014 03:27 AM, JF via Pd-list wrote:
 Nobody?


 On Wednesday, 20 August 2014, 19:46,
 JF sainti...@yahoo.com
 wrote:



 Hi all,

 I've come across a problem that has me stumped.

 I've recently bought another laptop which is the same model/spec
 as my current one. I've installed Win XP SP2 (again, same as other
 laptop) fresh from the OEM disc, and tried to run PD vanilla and
 it wouldn't open. Nothing happened when double clicking the EXE.

 I downloaded the latest vanilla version (I think I had been
 running an older version) from Miller's page and the latest

 extended. Again vanilla wouldn't run. Extended installed fine
 though and that works. I thought tha installing extended might
 'fix' vanilla but that still won't run.

 I opened the command line and ran the pd.com and it said there was
 an TCL error? But no windows pop up and nothing else happens. I
 don't have much info to go on...

 pd.com spawnl: Invalid argument C:\pd\bin\wish85.exe: couldn't load
 TCL

 Does anybody know how I should attack this? Or can anyone help?

 Thanks in advance as always, John.


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Re: [PD] 0.46-5 Not allocating midioutdev correctly? Strange behaviour

[JF via Pd-list]

Hi Miller sorry for the delay.

Thanks a million this one fixes the issues for me!

All the best,
John.




 On Sunday, 15 March 2015, 0:18, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:
  Sure enough... I missed that one.  
 
 Try:  http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/pd-tmp2.msw.zip
 
 cheers
 Miller
 
 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 06:48:58PM +, JF via Pd-list wrote:
  Thanks Miller.
 
  There is an improvement with this test version!
 
 
  Now I can...
  Open MIDI Settings.
  Select an output device.
  Close MIDI Settings.
 
  Open MIDI Settings.
 
  ...and we have the correct output device still selected (previously it 
 incremented one).
 
  But when I...
 
  Save all settings to registry.
  Close Pd.
  Open Pd.
  Open MIDI Settings.
 
  ...now the device has incremented to the next device (but this is better 
 than previous! Previously it jumped a few devices up the list)
 
  So I think there may be something still buggy but the first portion of the 
 strange behaviour seems to be fixed.
 
  Thanks again!
  John.
 
 
 
  On Monday, 9 March 2015, 4:49, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:
 
 
  
  
  Yep - bug!
  
  I put an attempted fix up here:
  
  http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/pd-test.zip
  
  (PC only so far) - can you try that one out?
  
  thanks
  Miller
  
  
  On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 12:31:48PM +, JF via Pd-list wrote:
   Anyone?
   
   I've tried 0.46-5, 0.46-4  0.46-3.
   
   All seem to save midioutdev incorrectly as already described.
   
   I presume this may be a bug in the 0.46 introduced 'saving 
 devices by name' feature?
   
   Any response/help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, John.
   
   
   
   
On Monday, 2 March 2015, 18:21, JF 
 sainti...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I can't seem to set midioutdev correctly on 0.46-5 
 Win 32.

When I choose a device, close preferences then re-open 
 preferences the device 
selected seems to now be the next device in the list.

This happens when using multiple device outs too.

Then saving the preferences to the registry seems to make the 
 device change 
again, (but not an device increment of one, maybe 4 or 5).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance, John.

   
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Re: [PD] Parse/split symbol by delimiters like - or _ ?

[JF via Pd-list]

Made an abstraction that will split a symbol by a delimiter using the new 
[list tosymbol] [list fromsymbol] methods (attached). (So this is for the 
newer vanilla versions ~0.46)

Uses [List_buffer] abstraction which is a cold-inlet growable list w/ bang 
to output and clear. This I created to suit the purpose I couldn't find 
anything similar in the list-abs.

Thanks all,
John.


 On Sunday, 1 March 2015, 20:21, JF sainti...@yahoo.com wrote:
 T hanks Iohannes  Tim,
 
 
 I would be interested in how to achieve this with [text]?
 
 I've been playing with text for the first time today, I thought that the 
 'fields' were only whitespace separated.
 
 
 if I had...
 [text define longsymbols]
 
 
 [symbol _ (
 |
 [text set longsymbols]
 
 ...how would I then retrieve the '' and '' separately?
 
 (Otherwise I will just use l2s/list2symbol)
 
 Thanks! John
 
 
 
 On Sunday, 1 March 2015, 19:21, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 sorry, in that example, the last [unpack s s] should probably be [unpack f 
 s]
 
 
 
 2015-03-01 20:17 GMT+01:00 tim vets timv...@gmail.com:
 
 maybe using s2l ?
 something (roughly) like:
 
 [symbol drums_1.wav( 
 |    [symbol _(
 
 |    |
 [s2l]
 
 [unpack s s]
 
                 |
                 |    [symbol .(
                 |    |
                 [s2l]
                 [unpack s s]
 
                 [f ]
                 |
                 [1\
 
 gr,
 
 Tim
 
 
 
 
 2015-03-01 20:03 GMT+01:00 JF via Pd-list pd-list@lists.iem.at:
 
 Is it possible to split a formatted symbol such as...
 drums_1.wav
 
 ...to extract the float '1' and use that to assign a 
 meaningful attribute?
 
 
 For example a float could represent a loop playback switch. 
 
 if I have 'drums_0.wav' I would like to extract the float, 
 find that it
 is '0' and then I would know that this WAV file is say, not 
 to be looped.
 Or if I had 'drums_1.wav' I would be able to parse the 
 filename, find the '1'
 which I now know to loop the WAV file.
 
 
 Thanks in advance! John
 
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 #N canvas 708 421 308 321 10;
#X obj 59 254 list;
#X msg 103 86 1 2 3;
#X obj 136 182 t b b;
#X obj 201 222 t a;
#X msg 113 106 a b c;
#X obj 121 222 list prepend;
#X obj 64 67 inlet;
#X obj 21 67 inlet;
#X obj 59 283 outlet;
#X obj 156 124 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144
-1 -1;
#X text 173 183 bang clears;
#X text 18 11 Growable list buffer \; Lists to the cold inlet are prepended
\; Bang to hot outputs list then clears buffer;
#X obj 21 213 t b b;
#X obj 64 151 t a;
#X connect 0 0 8 0;
#X connect 1 0 13 0;
#X connect 2 0 0 1;
#X connect 2 1 5 1;
#X connect 3 0 5 1;
#X connect 4 0 13 0;
#X connect 5 0 0 1;
#X connect 5 0 3 0;
#X connect 6 0 13 0;
#X connect 7 0 12 0;
#X connect 9 0 13 0;
#X connect 12 0 2 0;
#X connect 12 1 0 0;
#X connect 13 0 5 0;
#N canvas 409 212 395 452 10;
#X obj 19 163 list fromsymbol;
#X msg 286 106 symbol -;
#X obj 265 211 list fromsymbol;
#X obj 19 193 u_listdrip;
#X text 344 106 45;
#X obj 19 329 List_buffer;
#X obj 19 285 t b;
#X obj 19 367 list tosymbol;
#X obj 265 54 inlet;
#X obj 19 414 outlet;
#X msg 42 86 symbol hey-this-is-a$%££%-easy;
#X obj 19 54 inlet;
#X text 15 12 Split a string by a given delimiter \; \$1 - delimiter
character;
#X obj 81 250 route;
#X obj 302 145 loadbang;
#X obj 302 167 symbol \$1;
#X text 283 90 example;
#X obj 265 190 symbol;
#X text 41 70 example;
#X connect 0 0 3 0;
#X connect 1 0 17 0;
#X connect 2 0 13 1;
#X connect 3 0 13 0;
#X connect 3 1 6 0;
#X connect 5 0 7 0;
#X connect 6 0 5 0;
#X connect 7 0 9 0;
#X connect 8 0 17 0;
#X connect 10 0 0 0;
#X connect 11 0 0 0;
#X connect 13 0 6 0;
#X connect 13 1 5 1;
#X connect 14 0 15 0;
#X connect 15 0 17 0;
#X connect 17 0 2 0;
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[PD] Pd changelog error re list/text to/fromsymbol (was: Parse/split symbol by delimiters)

[JF via Pd-list]

Thanks Jack, [list tosymbol] looks perfect.


There seems to be an error in the release log in the Pd documentation html and 
elsewhere...


0.46-0
New [text tosymbol] and [text fromsymbol] to allow string manipulation.

I was wondering why [text tosymbol] wouldn't create.

I presume this is meant to read [list tosymbol] etc. and not [text]?

Thanks all, John.






 On Sunday, 1 March 2015, 20:21, JF sainti...@yahoo.com wrote:
 T hanks Iohannes  Tim,
 
 
 I would be interested in how to achieve this with [text]?
 

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[PD] 0.46-5 Not allocating midioutdev correctly? Strange behaviour

[JF via Pd-list]

I can't seem to set midioutdev correctly on 0.46-5 Win 32.

When I choose a device, close preferences then re-open preferences the device 
selected seems to now be the next device in the list.

This happens when using multiple device outs too.

Then saving the preferences to the registry seems to make the device change 
again, (but not an device increment of one, maybe 4 or 5).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance, John.

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[PD] Parse/split symbol by delimiters like - or _ ?

[JF via Pd-list]

Is it possible to split a formatted symbol such as...drums_1.wav
...to extract the float '1' and use that to assign a meaningful attribute?
For example a float could represent a loop playback switch. 
if I have 'drums_0.wav' I would like to extract the float, find that itis '0' 
and then I would know that this WAV file is say, not to be looped.Or if I had 
'drums_1.wav' I would be able to parse the filename, find the '1'which I now 
know to loop the WAV file.
Thanks in advance! John
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Re: [PD] Parse/split symbol by delimiters like - or _ ?

[JF via Pd-list]

Thanks Iohannes  Tim,


I would be interested in how to achieve this with [text]?

I've been playing with text for the first time today, I thought that the 
'fields' were only whitespace separated.


if I had...
[text define longsymbols]


[symbol _ (
|
[text set longsymbols]

...how would I then retrieve the '' and '' separately?

(Otherwise I will just use l2s/list2symbol)

Thanks! John


On Sunday, 1 March 2015, 19:21, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote:




sorry, in that example, the last [unpack s s] should probably be [unpack f s]



2015-03-01 20:17 GMT+01:00 tim vets timv...@gmail.com:

maybe using s2l ?
something (roughly) like:

[symbol drums_1.wav( 
|[symbol _(

||
[s2l]

[unpack s s]

|
|[symbol .(
||
[s2l]
[unpack s s]

[f ]
|
[1\

gr,

Tim




2015-03-01 20:03 GMT+01:00 JF via Pd-list pd-list@lists.iem.at:

Is it possible to split a formatted symbol such as...
drums_1.wav

...to extract the float '1' and use that to assign a meaningful attribute?


For example a float could represent a loop playback switch. 

if I have 'drums_0.wav' I would like to extract the float, find that it
is '0' and then I would know that this WAV file is say, not to be looped.
Or if I had 'drums_1.wav' I would be able to parse the filename, find the '1'
which I now know to loop the WAV file.


Thanks in advance! John

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Re: [PD] 0.46-5 Not allocating midioutdev correctly? Strange behaviour

[JF via Pd-list]

Anyone?

I've tried 0.46-5, 0.46-4  0.46-3.

All seem to save midioutdev incorrectly as already described.

I presume this may be a bug in the 0.46 introduced 'saving devices by name' 
feature?

Any response/help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, John.




 On Monday, 2 March 2015, 18:21, JF sainti...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I can't seem to set midioutdev correctly on 0.46-5 Win 32.
 
 When I choose a device, close preferences then re-open preferences the device 
 selected seems to now be the next device in the list.
 
 This happens when using multiple device outs too.
 
 Then saving the preferences to the registry seems to make the device change 
 again, (but not an device increment of one, maybe 4 or 5).
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
 Thanks in advance, John.
 

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Re: [PD] Enable autopatch by default Pd-extended 0.43.4

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Thanks Iohannes, I forgot that extended was 'behind' and that autopatch is 
relatively new. I'm back patching on vanilla now, and having extended installed 
alongside is handy to go exploring externals and documentation.
 

 On Thursday, 26 February 2015, 15:49, Alexandros Drymonitis 
adr...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 

 Strange... I know it's enabled by default on Vanilla, plus it's mentioned in 
the page you posted. But there's no -noautopatch to disable that feature, so 
what's the meaning of having this flag since it's there by default and you 
can't disable it?

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:48 PM, JF sainti...@yahoo.com wrote:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/commandline   Maybe the flag is Vanilla only. I'm 
coming from Vanilla and I'm very used to autopatch as it's default there.
Thanks Alexandros though.
Does anyone else know if this is possible? It's really infuriating me!
 

 On Thursday, 26 February 2015, 10:18, Alexandros Drymonitis 
adr...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 

 Not sure if there's such a flag, but also since you have to active autopatch 
for every single window separately (including subpatches) I guess that's not 
really possible

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:03 AM, JF via Pd-list pd-list@lists.iem.at wrote:

I've tried putting '-autopatch' and also tried '--autopatch' in 
Preferences-Startup flags but to no avail?
Is this possible?
Thanks in advance,John.

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Re: [PD] Create own error message that's findable?

[JF via Pd-list]

Thanks Iohannes and Jonathan!


On Fri, 8/1/16, JF  wrote:

 Subject: Create own error message that's findable?
 To: "pd list" 
 Cc: "Me" 
 Date: Friday, 8 January, 2016, 10:12
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm creating patches that print error messages to the
 console.
 
 Is it possible to send a special error message that would be
 trackable by Pd's 'Find>Find last error' command?
 
 Many thanks in advance,
 John.
 

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[PD] Create own error message that's findable?

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Hi all,

I'm creating patches that print error messages to the console.

Is it possible to send a special error message that would be trackable by Pd's 
'Find>Find last error' command?

Many thanks in advance,
John.

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[PD] Fast iem tab_conv or similar?

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Is there a way to quickly convolve two tables?

iem's tab_conv seems quite slow? bsaylors partconv~ works quite well in real 
time but I'm just looking to convolve tables offline and play back the result 
from a new table.

Many thanks in advance,
John.

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[PD] Fast convolution of 2 tables using FFT

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Hi all,

I decided to implement my own patch that does frequency domain convolution of 
two tables.

Have a look at the FFTTry02Long03.pd file and you will need the attached 
abstractions and 
iem_tab [tab_complex_mul] (in the path for vanilla or just imported with 
pd-extended).

It's very fast compared to iem_tab's [tab_conv] but the output doesn't exactly 
match, there is 
some error. It's small and I'm thinking it's because of the blocksize being 
very large to fft~ the 
tables all in one go. The ifft~ needs a very large division (blocksize) to 
normalise the gains 
so I'm presuming there's some number precision funniness going on here? If 
anyone could 
chime in on this?

Any feedback/improvement ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
John.

FFTTry02Long03.pd
Description: Binary data


jTabConv.pd
Description: Binary data


jArraySize.pd
Description: Binary data


jLog.pd
Description: Binary data
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Re: [PD] Fast convolution of 2 tables using FFT

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Well, I should say, time domain convolution, using multiplication in the 
frequency domain ;)


On Sun, 24/1/16, JF  wrote:

 Subject: Fast convolution of 2 tables using FFT
 To: "pd list" , "Me" 
 Date: Sunday, 24 January, 2016, 21:01
 
 Hi all,
 
 I decided to implement my own patch that does frequency
 domain convolution of two tables.
 
 Have a look at the FFTTry02Long03.pd file and you will need
 the attached abstractions and 
 iem_tab [tab_complex_mul] (in the path for vanilla or just
 imported with pd-extended).
 
 It's very fast compared to iem_tab's [tab_conv] but the
 output doesn't exactly match, there is 
 some error. It's small and I'm thinking it's because of the
 blocksize being very large to fft~ the 
 tables all in one go. The ifft~ needs a very large division
 (blocksize) to normalise the gains 
 so I'm presuming there's some number precision funniness
 going on here? If anyone could 
 chime in on this?
 
 Any feedback/improvement ideas would be greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 John.

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