Re: Thoughts on 50th...
My late uncle told me of a strange occurrence on the family farm back in 1936. The family were the proud owners of a spanking new Jaguar SS. While he was polishing the beast late on a balmy Saturday afternoon ready for its weekly trip to Church, a small green, box shaped car came trundling down the dirt farm road. The driver seemed very disorientated & had obviously lost his way. After giving him directions to get back to the main road, he asked if he could look under the bonnet. He had never seen anything like it before - front wheel drive with a small transverse Cooper engine. The visitor admired the gleaming Jaguar & said he was busy restoring a 1938 model. My uncle asked how that could be seeing it was only 1936. The visitor did not answer - he thanked my uncle, climbed into his car and drove off, disappearing into the dusk. My uncle said he slept very uneasily that night. Early on the Sunday morning he walked out of the house & noticed the tyre tread pattern of the visitor,s car in the sand. It was a pattern he had never seen before. He decided to follow it up the road but after about 200yds it became fainter & simply disappeared. He then walked the other direction & found exactly the same thing. In 1960 I became the proud owner of a Mini-Cooper! Alan C On 21-Jul-19 11:07 PM, Bob Pdml wrote: On 21 Jul 2019, at 16:29, Mark Roberts wrote: Steve Cottrell wrote: If Skynet exists in the future, I'm sure they'll be paying you a little visit a few years ago That's it! We know Skynet won't ever exist in the future because they haven't visited us in the past. What a relief! maybe they will have visited us in some past yet to come... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you. The Earth's Moon is larger than Pluto, which—until it was demoted recently—was considered a "planet".. ;-) Of course, it's more as a figure of speech as I used the word, rather than a precise statement of fact. G — Such are the arguments of wizards that they generally end up where they began. > On Jul 20, 2019, at 12:46 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > I agree with everything you said, Godfrey, except, of course, the moon is > not really "another planet.' That does not in any measure diminish the > achievement or what it has meant. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 3:06 PM Bob Pdml wrote: > > > On 21 Jul 2019, at 20:42, William Robb > wrote: > > > >> > >> On 21/7/19, Alan C, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> > >>> AI. There is no such thing. Machines only react to mountains of info in > >>> their databases. They are incapable of original thought. The problems > >>> with driverless cars occur when situations not in their databases are > >>> encountered. At best, machines & robots are nothing more than super > >> slaves. > >> > > > > The problem with driverless cars is going to come to a head when a car > has > > to make a decision about who lives and who dies. > > Either way, it’s a no win for the manufacturer and programmer of the > > vehicle. > > > > > > https://theconversation.com/driverless-cars-once-theyre-on-the-road-human-drivers-should-be-banned-118293 Nice pap piece, but all it is doing is forwarding an agenda with a narrative. Put two people darting out into traffic with no way for the vehicle to respond until someone is going to be hit. The car has to choose one or the other to die. Either way, especially if this happens in the USA, the company that built the car, and the people who writhe the software that told the car which choice to make, is going to face a pretty heavy lawsuit. Frankly, it scares me that we are preparing to put machines into that position. Who should live and who should die being decided by an algorithm. The machine acting as God. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Goodbye and thanks for all the fish. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 5:02 PM Bob Pdml wrote: > https://tinyurl.com/y6mkb3ut > > > https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/00f4c7321374431ea848517ce1613814/albums/775e41e7fe91462d820fd3ba97d4cc07/assets/b162bb4ac7564d6ea31f8a468fdb09d4 > > > On 20 Jul 2019, at 18:20, Godfrey DiGiorgi > wrote: > > > > And today is the day, 50 years on, that Mankind first touched another > planet. All of us, together. OMG! The whole world watched in awe and > wonder, and was uplifted by that fact. > > > > All the problems of the world were then as well as now, as well as for > all the generations of history before and since. That will always be. And > the true sadness of the Apollo missions, despite all that pushing to do > this and creating all the technology and good stuff that it spawned which > helps human beings live longer, be more productive, and look at the world > and the stars around them with new insights, is that it ended and we > haven't gone back or further yet. > > > > But, g*n it, we managed to do something incredible. We did something > worth writing in the history of our species that no other species we know > has done. And all the naysayers and querulous ambivalents in the world can > moan and whine and whinge about whether we should have or not, but it > doesn't matter at all: We managed to do it, and it was good, and it is > amazing, and it brought all of us worldwide together for one shining moment > of joy and wonder. > > > > If that's not worth whatever it cost, then nothing is. > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 21 Jul 2019, at 16:29, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Steve Cottrell wrote: > >> If Skynet exists in the future, I'm sure they'll be paying you a little >> visit a few years ago > > That's it! We know Skynet won't ever exist in the future because they > haven't visited us in the past. > > What a relief! > maybe they will have visited us in some past yet to come... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 21 Jul 2019, at 20:42, William Robb wrote: > >> >> On 21/7/19, Alan C, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>> AI. There is no such thing. Machines only react to mountains of info in >>> their databases. They are incapable of original thought. The problems >>> with driverless cars occur when situations not in their databases are >>> encountered. At best, machines & robots are nothing more than super >> slaves. >> > > The problem with driverless cars is going to come to a head when a car has > to make a decision about who lives and who dies. > Either way, it’s a no win for the manufacturer and programmer of the > vehicle. > > https://theconversation.com/driverless-cars-once-theyre-on-the-road-human-drivers-should-be-banned-118293 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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https://tinyurl.com/y6mkb3ut https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/00f4c7321374431ea848517ce1613814/albums/775e41e7fe91462d820fd3ba97d4cc07/assets/b162bb4ac7564d6ea31f8a468fdb09d4 > On 20 Jul 2019, at 18:20, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > And today is the day, 50 years on, that Mankind first touched another planet. > All of us, together. OMG! The whole world watched in awe and wonder, and was > uplifted by that fact. > > All the problems of the world were then as well as now, as well as for all > the generations of history before and since. That will always be. And the > true sadness of the Apollo missions, despite all that pushing to do this and > creating all the technology and good stuff that it spawned which helps human > beings live longer, be more productive, and look at the world and the stars > around them with new insights, is that it ended and we haven't gone back or > further yet. > > But, g*n it, we managed to do something incredible. We did something > worth writing in the history of our species that no other species we know has > done. And all the naysayers and querulous ambivalents in the world can moan > and whine and whinge about whether we should have or not, but it doesn't > matter at all: We managed to do it, and it was good, and it is amazing, and > it brought all of us worldwide together for one shining moment of joy and > wonder. > > If that's not worth whatever it cost, then nothing is. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice abstract. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 3:06 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I pulled out my beautiful little Voigtländer Perkeo II 6x6cm medium-format > camera to shoot a roll of film and test a new processing system. > > https://flic.kr/p/2gDDMNk > > enjoy! > G > — > If you're afraid to fall down, you'll never stand up. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 5:59 AM Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 21/7/19, Alan C, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >AI. There is no such thing. Machines only react to mountains of info in > >their databases. They are incapable of original thought. The problems > >with driverless cars occur when situations not in their databases are > >encountered. At best, machines & robots are nothing more than super > slaves. > > Be interesting to see if this stands the test of time. > > If Skynet exists in the future, I'm sure they'll be paying you a little > visit a few years ago The problem with driverless cars is going to come to a head when a car has to make a decision about who lives and who dies. Either way, it’s a no win for the manufacturer and programmer of the vehicle. Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I pulled out my beautiful little Voigtländer Perkeo II 6x6cm medium-format camera to shoot a roll of film and test a new processing system. https://flic.kr/p/2gDDMNk enjoy! G — If you're afraid to fall down, you'll never stand up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Skynet visited me in the past, Two guys in dark suits knocked on my door. Apparently, it’s in serious financial trouble in the future, so they’ve adopted the Jehova’s Witnesses business model and are seeking donations. Paul > On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:29 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Steve Cottrell wrote: > >> If Skynet exists in the future, I'm sure they'll be paying you a little >> visit a few years ago > > That's it! We know Skynet won't ever exist in the future because they > haven't visited us in the past. > > What a relief! > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 21/7/19, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >That's it! We know Skynet won't ever exist in the future because they >haven't visited us in the past Or we could just be in a recuring loop between those two points. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Steve Cottrell wrote: >If Skynet exists in the future, I'm sure they'll be paying you a little visit >a few years ago That's it! We know Skynet won't ever exist in the future because they haven't visited us in the past. What a relief! -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 21/7/19, Alan C, discombobulated, unleashed: >AI. There is no such thing. Machines only react to mountains of info in >their databases. They are incapable of original thought. The problems >with driverless cars occur when situations not in their databases are >encountered. At best, machines & robots are nothing more than super slaves. Be interesting to see if this stands the test of time. If Skynet exists in the future, I'm sure they'll be paying you a little visit a few years ago -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well put, Godfrey. Man will eventually go further. He will need to do a lot to save mother earth too. Too many people, too few resources. We can't be far from the tipping point. AI. There is no such thing. Machines only react to mountains of info in their databases. They are incapable of original thought. The problems with driverless cars occur when situations not in their databases are encountered. At best, machines & robots are nothing more than super slaves. Alan C On 20-Jul-19 08:56 PM, Jos de Fotograaf wrote: Right Godfrey, maybe the last really great thing we did before our role in evolution will be taken over by AI / Robotics. I would give a few years of my life for a glance in the future. Greetz, Jos van der Hijden On 7/20/2019 7:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: And today is the day, 50 years on, that Mankind first touched another planet. All of us, together. OMG! The whole world watched in awe and wonder, and was uplifted by that fact. All the problems of the world were then as well as now, as well as for all the generations of history before and since. That will always be. And the true sadness of the Apollo missions, despite all that pushing to do this and creating all the technology and good stuff that it spawned which helps human beings live longer, be more productive, and look at the world and the stars around them with new insights, is that it ended and we haven't gone back or further yet. But, g*n it, we managed to do something incredible. We did something worth writing in the history of our species that no other species we know has done. And all the naysayers and querulous ambivalents in the world can moan and whine and whinge about whether we should have or not, but it doesn't matter at all: We managed to do it, and it was good, and it is amazing, and it brought all of us worldwide together for one shining moment of joy and wonder. If that's not worth whatever it cost, then nothing is. G — No matter where you go, there you are. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
