Re: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)

2001-12-19 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

I can't believe the distortion in those last two shots!  Hang the resolution.  Give me 
a natural appearance any day of the week.

Collin

--Original Message--
and most specifically: 

http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux2/kittyleaves4.jpg 
http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux2/tedkitleaves2.jpg 
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Re: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)

2001-12-19 Thread Dan Scott

I'm curious as to how natural that line or plane of focus looks to all of
y'alls more experienced eyes? It seems pretty crescent or horn shaped and
I'm having trouble visualizing what causes it. And is it possible we're
just looking at photoshop enhancement done very badly?

Dan Scott
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I can't believe the distortion in those last two shots!  Hang the
resolution.  Give me a natural appearance any day of the week.

Collin
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Re: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)

2001-12-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:30:35 -0800, Timothy Sherburne wrote:

 Whoa... The bokeh on those images leaves me with a sense of vertigo. The
 leaves almost look like they're swirling around in a windstorm.

  Check out the following Noctilux (50f1) and Summilux 75 (f1.4) images produced
  http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux1/
  http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux2/kittyleaves4.jpg
  http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux2/tedkitleaves2.jpg

Holy cow.  Vertigo is right.  Those shots give me motion sickness.  I
don't think I'll be zooming out to get a Leica and the 'luxes. :-)

TTYL, DougF
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Re: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Roberts

Rob Studdert wrote:
 
 Check out the following Noctilux (50f1) and Summilux 75 (f1.4) images produced
 by Rei a member of the LUG (Leica Users Group):
 
 http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux1/
 
 and most specifically:
 
 http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux2/kittyleaves4.jpg
 http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux2/tedkitleaves2.jpg

Some great shots there but the light fall-off in the corners really bothers me.
I have a couple of lenses that I consider to be excellent performers thatexhibit
a bit of light fall-off when wide open, but nothing like what I saw from the
Noctilux. I suppose it's a trade-off that's worthwhile for some people but I
guess I'm not one of them.

-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
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Re: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)

2001-12-18 Thread Len Paris

I think I've received this same message five times.  What's up?

Len
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From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)


 On 18 Dec 2001 at 18:01, Isaac Crawford wrote:

  I doubt this... The Leica earned its moniker. :-) A
rangefinder has a
  huge advantage over an SLR when it comes to light
throughput. I haven't
  looked through the 50mm f1.2 from Pentax, but I have looked
through the 50mm f1
  from Canon on an EOS 1-V, and I can tell you that there's no
contest, my Leica
  (among other rangefinders) wins hands down... Perhaps
someone that isn't used to
  rangefinder focusing would have problems, but an experienced
rangfinder shooter
  should be at a significant advantage.

 I just spent over three months travelling with only RFs in
hand, 2 x M6 and
 Mamiya 7II so I have a little experience :-)

 Firstly the Mamiya has a far brighter RF patch than the Leica
M6 (see
 measurements below) and secondly in really low light the RF
patch in the Leica
 isn't discernible however the SE-60/P50f1.2 still allows
reliable focus.

 RF relative brightness (measured with a spotmeter through the
finder with the
 cameras face down on a light panel, if it isn't immediately
obvious; the
 smaller the aperture the brighter the image in the finder :-)
:

 M6 0.85 TTL f5.6 +9/10
 M6 0.72 f8.0 +1/10
 M4 f8.0 +1/10
 M7II f11+6/10

 M6 0.72 (under RF patch) f2 +1/10
 M6 0.72 (RF patch) f2.8 +1/10
 LX FA-1 SE-60 50f1.2 (open) f2.8 +9/10

 Leica folklore.

 Cheers,
 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re[2]: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)

2001-12-18 Thread Fred

 I think I've received this same message five times.  What's up?

Aw, don't be so fussy.  It does the damned job, doesn't it?  If it
gives us the results we want, can't we adapt just a little bit?

   ;-)

Fred
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Re: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)

2001-12-18 Thread Isaac Crawford

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From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)


 On 18 Dec 2001 at 18:01, Isaac Crawford wrote:

  I doubt this... The Leica earned its moniker. :-) A rangefinder has
a
  huge advantage over an SLR when it comes to light throughput.

 I just spent over three months travelling with only RFs in hand, 2 x M6
and
 Mamiya 7II so I have a little experience :-)

 Firstly the Mamiya has a far brighter RF patch than the Leica M6 (see
 measurements below) and secondly in really low light the RF patch in the
Leica
 isn't discernible however the SE-60/P50f1.2 still allows reliable focus.

(interesting info snipped)

I will have to try out this combo and see how easy it is to focus. I
have shot (and focused) in some pretty bad light (1/15 at f1.4 shooting
ei2400) with my Leica without any focus problems, come to think of it, I
don't know what I'd be taking a picture of if the light was any lower!:-)

Isaac
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Re: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)

2001-12-18 Thread Fred

 Check out the following Noctilux (50f1) and Summilux 75 (f1.4)
 images [snip]

 Some great shots there but the light fall-off in the corners
 really bothers me. I have a couple of lenses that I consider to be
 excellent performers thatexhibit a bit of light fall-off when wide
 open, but nothing like what I saw from the Noctilux. I suppose
 it's a trade-off that's worthwhile for some people but I guess I'm
 not one of them.

Unfortunately, fast lenses tend to have more light fall-off in the
corners wide-open (as opposed to vignetting, which I'm not referring
to) than do slower lenses.  It's a laws of physics trade-off that
can't be helped, I guess...

Fred
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Re: Re[2]: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)

2001-12-18 Thread Rob Studdert

On 18 Dec 2001 at 21:54, Fred wrote:

  I think I've received this same message five times.  What's up?
 
 Aw, don't be so fussy.  It does the damned job, doesn't it?  If it
 gives us the results we want, can't we adapt just a little bit?

Got big problems with my ISPs mail server, sorry for the repeat messages, 
though its not half as frustrating as what's going on at this end to produce 
the mess :-(

Cheers,
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Re: 50mm 1.2 (compilation)

2001-12-18 Thread Rob Studdert

On 18 Dec 2001 at 22:06, Isaac Crawford wrote:

 I will have to try out this combo and see how easy it is to focus. I
 have shot (and focused) in some pretty bad light (1/15 at f1.4 shooting
 ei2400) with my Leica without any focus problems, come to think of it, I
 don't know what I'd be taking a picture of if the light was any lower!:-)

What about this: http://pug.komkon.org/01may/acoustics.html  :-)

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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