Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks much, Ann. Good to hear.

Paul

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 8:08 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> PAul --
> I have an online subscription to the NYT and also an email thing that comes 
> in every day and highlights the articles of what the emailer considers most
> worthy ... with links included..  yours was one he chose..  I had glanced at 
> it earlier but read more this morning.. really great to do both the photos 
> and the writing -- so glad you have that gig and also that the photos were 
> not JUST of the cars.  Especially liked the candid of Steve Pasteiner ..
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 8/21/2021 11:01 AM, Mark C wrote:
>> Congrats, Paul. It was a great read and the photos are excellent. It was 
>> also well positioned in the Features section on the Times website this 
>> morning.
>> 
>> Your zipper-merge article from a few weeks ago was also an excellent piece. 
>> I'm sure I'll be reflecting on it whenever I encounter a lane closure on the 
>> freeway.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>>> On 8/19/2021 7:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the 
>>> pics. This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.
>>> 
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html 
>>> 
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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-22 Thread ann sanfedele

PAul --
I have an online subscription to the NYT and also an email thing that 
comes in every day and highlights the articles of what the emailer 
considers most
worthy ... with links included..  yours was one he chose..  I had 
glanced at it earlier but read more this morning.. really great to do 
both the photos and the writing -- so glad you have that gig and also 
that the photos were not JUST of the cars.  Especially liked the candid 
of Steve Pasteiner ..


ann

On 8/21/2021 11:01 AM, Mark C wrote:
Congrats, Paul. It was a great read and the photos are excellent. It 
was also well positioned in the Features section on the Times website 
this morning.


Your zipper-merge article from a few weeks ago was also an excellent 
piece. I'm sure I'll be reflecting on it whenever I encounter a lane 
closure on the freeway.


Mark

On 8/19/2021 7:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot 
the pics. This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. 
No birds.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html 



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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-21 Thread Ken Waller
Well stated Mark.

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Hi Bill -

Maybe I over reacted but I'm sick of people promoting violence. It leads to 
escalation. You criticize someone for not being a polite driver and not letting 
you in - well, couldn't you be the polite driver and just fall in behind them? 
And the hill he dies on nonsense - that's ridiculous.

I don't expect you to know anything about shootings in my vicinity. My point 
was that its a mistake to think you can intimidate someone and expect them to 
back down, because there are a lot of people who are in a place where crashing 
into your nice truck makes more sense than getting out of your way. And folks 
who feel that way aren't just here in the US, they are everywhere.  It's not 
about my country or your country, its about human reality.

I'm done here.


Mark


On 8/21/2021 9:31 PM, Bill wrote:
> Mark, you are projecting. You can stop anytime please and thank you.
>
> I'm sorry there was a shooting in your vicinity, but why you would expect
> me to know about it or think more about it than any other from the rather
> constant stream of shootings in your country?
>
> Be well.
>
> bill
>
> On Sat., Aug. 21, 2021, 5:50 p.m. Mark C, wrote:
>
>> On 8/21/2021 7:03 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> I just got honked at by a dim bulb who didn't think my zipper merge
>>> immediately past a sign that said zipper merge ahead was something I
>>> had a right to do.
>>> My rather large truck changing lanes on top of his puny little
>>> Chevrolet based roller skate intimidated him enough that he decided
>>> that he wasn't yet climbing the hill we was meant to die on, but
>>> still, why not just be a polite driver and let a person merge?
>>>
>>> bill
>>> -
>> Not sure what you are trying to prove here, Bill. That you are a tough?
>> That you are a bully? That you got a really bad ass truck?
>>
>> Last night some guy walked onto the pier at South Haven, Michigan - a
>> place where I have taken hundreds of photos. He shot a couple standing
>> there enjoying the view, killing one and critically wounding the other.
>> Then he opened fire on a beach filled with families and lots of children
>> - thankfully hitting no one. Then he turned the gun on himself.
>>
>> He was a guy who didn't mind dying on that hill. Hell, he probably
>> wished he was dead already. I wouldn't mock some who "decided that he
>> wasn't yet climbing the hill we was meant to die on." You're a good guy,
>> Bill. Act like it and leave the BS behind.
>>
>> Mark
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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-21 Thread Mark C

Hi Bill -

Maybe I over reacted but I'm sick of people promoting violence. It leads 
to escalation. You criticize someone for not being a polite driver and 
not letting you in - well, couldn't you be the polite driver and just 
fall in behind them? And the hill he dies on nonsense - that's ridiculous.


I don't expect you to know anything about shootings in my vicinity. My 
point was that its a mistake to think you can intimidate someone and 
expect them to back down, because there are a lot of people who are in a 
place where crashing into your nice truck makes more sense than getting 
out of your way. And folks who feel that way aren't just here in the US, 
they are everywhere.  It's not about my country or your country, its 
about human reality.


I'm done here.


Mark


On 8/21/2021 9:31 PM, Bill wrote:

Mark, you are projecting. You can stop anytime please and thank you.

I'm sorry there was a shooting in your vicinity, but why you would expect
me to know about it or think more about it than any other from the rather
constant stream of shootings in your country?

Be well.

bill

On Sat., Aug. 21, 2021, 5:50 p.m. Mark C,  wrote:


On 8/21/2021 7:03 PM, Bill wrote:

I just got honked at by a dim bulb who didn't think my zipper merge
immediately past a sign that said zipper merge ahead was something I
had a right to do.
My rather large truck changing lanes on top of his puny little
Chevrolet based roller skate intimidated him enough that he decided
that he wasn't yet climbing the hill we was meant to die on, but
still, why not just be a polite driver and let a person merge?

bill
-

Not sure what you are trying to prove here, Bill. That you are a tough?
That you are a bully? That you got a really bad ass truck?

Last night some guy walked onto the pier at South Haven, Michigan - a
place where I have taken hundreds of photos. He shot a couple standing
there enjoying the view, killing one and critically wounding the other.
Then he opened fire on a beach filled with families and lots of children
- thankfully hitting no one. Then he turned the gun on himself.

He was a guy who didn't mind dying on that hill. Hell, he probably
wished he was dead already. I wouldn't mock some who "decided that he
wasn't yet climbing the hill we was meant to die on." You're a good guy,
Bill. Act like it and leave the BS behind.

Mark

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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-21 Thread Bill
Mark, you are projecting. You can stop anytime please and thank you.

I'm sorry there was a shooting in your vicinity, but why you would expect
me to know about it or think more about it than any other from the rather
constant stream of shootings in your country?

Be well.

bill

On Sat., Aug. 21, 2021, 5:50 p.m. Mark C,  wrote:

> On 8/21/2021 7:03 PM, Bill wrote:
> >
> > I just got honked at by a dim bulb who didn't think my zipper merge
> > immediately past a sign that said zipper merge ahead was something I
> > had a right to do.
> > My rather large truck changing lanes on top of his puny little
> > Chevrolet based roller skate intimidated him enough that he decided
> > that he wasn't yet climbing the hill we was meant to die on, but
> > still, why not just be a polite driver and let a person merge?
> >
> > bill
> > -
>
> Not sure what you are trying to prove here, Bill. That you are a tough?
> That you are a bully? That you got a really bad ass truck?
>
> Last night some guy walked onto the pier at South Haven, Michigan - a
> place where I have taken hundreds of photos. He shot a couple standing
> there enjoying the view, killing one and critically wounding the other.
> Then he opened fire on a beach filled with families and lots of children
> - thankfully hitting no one. Then he turned the gun on himself.
>
> He was a guy who didn't mind dying on that hill. Hell, he probably
> wished he was dead already. I wouldn't mock some who "decided that he
> wasn't yet climbing the hill we was meant to die on." You're a good guy,
> Bill. Act like it and leave the BS behind.
>
> Mark
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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think Bill just meant to emphasize the extreme reaction that a simple legal 
merge engenders. A bit of hyperbole, but that’s Bill. I too am troubled by the 
South Haven shooting. It’s deeply tragic. 

Paul

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> On 8/21/2021 7:03 PM, Bill wrote:
>> 
>> I just got honked at by a dim bulb who didn't think my zipper merge 
>> immediately past a sign that said zipper merge ahead was something I had a 
>> right to do.
>> My rather large truck changing lanes on top of his puny little Chevrolet 
>> based roller skate intimidated him enough that he decided that he wasn't yet 
>> climbing the hill we was meant to die on, but still, why not just be a 
>> polite driver and let a person merge?
>> 
>> bill
>> -
> 
> Not sure what you are trying to prove here, Bill. That you are a tough? That 
> you are a bully? That you got a really bad ass truck?
> 
> Last night some guy walked onto the pier at South Haven, Michigan - a place 
> where I have taken hundreds of photos. He shot a couple standing there 
> enjoying the view, killing one and critically wounding the other. Then he 
> opened fire on a beach filled with families and lots of children - thankfully 
> hitting no one. Then he turned the gun on himself.
> 
> He was a guy who didn't mind dying on that hill. Hell, he probably wished he 
> was dead already. I wouldn't mock some who "decided that he wasn't yet 
> climbing the hill we was meant to die on." You're a good guy, Bill. Act like 
> it and leave the BS behind.
> 
> Mark
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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-21 Thread Mark C

On 8/21/2021 7:03 PM, Bill wrote:


I just got honked at by a dim bulb who didn't think my zipper merge 
immediately past a sign that said zipper merge ahead was something I 
had a right to do.
My rather large truck changing lanes on top of his puny little 
Chevrolet based roller skate intimidated him enough that he decided 
that he wasn't yet climbing the hill we was meant to die on, but 
still, why not just be a polite driver and let a person merge?


bill
-


Not sure what you are trying to prove here, Bill. That you are a tough? 
That you are a bully? That you got a really bad ass truck?


Last night some guy walked onto the pier at South Haven, Michigan - a 
place where I have taken hundreds of photos. He shot a couple standing 
there enjoying the view, killing one and critically wounding the other. 
Then he opened fire on a beach filled with families and lots of children 
- thankfully hitting no one. Then he turned the gun on himself.


He was a guy who didn't mind dying on that hill. Hell, he probably 
wished he was dead already. I wouldn't mock some who "decided that he 
wasn't yet climbing the hill we was meant to die on." You're a good guy, 
Bill. Act like it and leave the BS behind.


Mark

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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-21 Thread Bill

On 8/21/2021 3:01 PM, Mark C wrote:

On 8/21/2021 11:07 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Thanks Mark. I had a chance to impose my will at a merge just the 
other day but chickened out. Theory is one thing. Putting it to use is 
another!


I know what you mean... I've decided to support zipper merging by not 
blocking the last minute mergers, which I might have done a few times in 
the past. But I'm not up for doing the actual last minute merge myself - 
feels like bad karma!


Mark


I just got honked at by a dim bulb who didn't think my zipper merge 
immediately past a sign that said zipper merge ahead was something I had 
a right to do.
My rather large truck changing lanes on top of his puny little Chevrolet 
based roller skate intimidated him enough that he decided that he wasn't 
yet climbing the hill we was meant to die on, but still, why not just be 
a polite driver and let a person merge?


bill
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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-21 Thread Mark C

On 8/21/2021 11:07 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Thanks Mark. I had a chance to impose my will at a merge just the other day but 
chickened out. Theory is one thing. Putting it to use is another!


I know what you mean... I've decided to support zipper merging by not 
blocking the last minute mergers, which I might have done a few times in 
the past. But I'm not up for doing the actual last minute merge myself - 
feels like bad karma!


Mark




On Aug 21, 2021, at 11:01 AM, Mark C  wrote:

Congrats, Paul. It was a great read and the photos are excellent. It was also 
well positioned in the Features section on the Times website this morning.

Your zipper-merge article from a few weeks ago was also an excellent piece. I'm 
sure I'll be reflecting on it whenever I encounter a lane closure on the 
freeway.

Mark

On 8/19/2021 7:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html

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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks to all who commented or had a look. Sorry about the paywall, but as 
Allen said you can create a free limited account 

Paul

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 4:03 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Go to "Create an Account" & then open with FB or Google. Gives limited 
> monthly reading at no cost.
> 
> Alan C
> 
>> On 21-Aug-21 09:28 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>> I'm unable to open the article.  Do you need to create an account?
>> 
>> Henk
>> 
>> Op 2021-08-20 om 01:37 schreef Paul Stenquist:
>>> I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the 
>>> pics. This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.
>>> 
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html 
>>> 
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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Mark. I had a chance to impose my will at a merge just the other day but 
chickened out. Theory is one thing. Putting it to use is another!


> On Aug 21, 2021, at 11:01 AM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> Congrats, Paul. It was a great read and the photos are excellent. It was also 
> well positioned in the Features section on the Times website this morning.
> 
> Your zipper-merge article from a few weeks ago was also an excellent piece. 
> I'm sure I'll be reflecting on it whenever I encounter a lane closure on the 
> freeway.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 8/19/2021 7:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
>> This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.
>> 
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html
>> 
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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-21 Thread Mark C
Congrats, Paul. It was a great read and the photos are excellent. It was 
also well positioned in the Features section on the Times website this 
morning.


Your zipper-merge article from a few weeks ago was also an excellent 
piece. I'm sure I'll be reflecting on it whenever I encounter a lane 
closure on the freeway.


Mark

On 8/19/2021 7:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html

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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-21 Thread Henk Terhell

I'm unable to open the article.  Do you need to create an account?

Henk

Op 2021-08-20 om 01:37 schreef Paul Stenquist:

I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html

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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-21 Thread Alan C
Go to "Create an Account" & then open with FB or Google. Gives limited 
monthly reading at no cost.


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On 21-Aug-21 09:28 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

I'm unable to open the article.  Do you need to create an account?

Henk

Op 2021-08-20 om 01:37 schreef Paul Stenquist:
I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot 
the pics. This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. 
No birds.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html 



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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-20 Thread John

Excellent!

On 8/19/2021 19:37:22, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html

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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-20 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 20.08.21 um 01:37 schrieb Paul Stenquist:

I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics.


Very well done.

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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-20 Thread Ken Waller
Well done as usual Paul.
The few times I’ve attended there was no place to park by the time I got 
there.


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I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
This was different but very limited. Just people snd cars. No birds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html

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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Outstanding work, both the images and the article.

The NY Times can insist on the best and usually gets it.  I hope they pay
the best as well.

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On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 7:37 PM Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the
> pics. This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html
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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-20 Thread Alan C
Great article & photos, Paul. I could only ever dream about cars like 
that. What about your car?


Alan C

On 20-Aug-21 01:37 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html

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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-20 Thread David J Brooks
Wonderful jon Paul

Dave

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:20 AM Rick Womer  wrote:

> Saw it today in the carbon-based NYTimes. Some of the photos didn’t get
> in, so I’m glad you sent the link!
>
> Rick
>
> > On Aug 20, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> >
> > Well done as usual Paul.
> > The few times I’ve attended there was no place to park by the time
> I got there.
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> > I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the
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> >
> >
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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-20 Thread Rick Womer
Saw it today in the carbon-based NYTimes. Some of the photos didn’t get in, so 
I’m glad you sent the link!

Rick

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Well done as usual Paul.
> The few times I’ve attended there was no place to park by the time I 
> got there.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Aug 19, 2021 7:37 PM
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> Subject: A switcheroo
> 
> I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
> This was different but very limited. Just people snd cars. No birds.
> 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html
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A switcheroo

2021-08-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html

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Re: A switcheroo

2021-08-19 Thread Rick Womer
Paul, both the writing and photography in that piece are great. I really 
enjoyed them.

Rick

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
> This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.
> 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html
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