Anyone ever dealt with the Montclair Who's Who in Photography scammers?
I'm guessing that a lot of people on the PDML have received email from the Montclair Publishing Who's Who con artists. (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=140) They say you're being considered for inclusion in the next edition of their book, please call for an interview, etc. Like most people I just delete the email (and report them for spamming) but there are several sites on the web from people who called back for the interview that detail the rest of the scam: Basically, one has to buy membership for an exorbitant fee to be included. Anyway, if anyone has dealt with this scam operation I'd be interested in hearing about it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you for letting us know, Mark... On 11/30/2010 2:29 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I'm guessing that a lot of people on the PDML have received email from the Montclair Publishing Who's Who con artists. (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=140) They say you're being considered for inclusion in the next edition of their book, please call for an interview, etc. Like most people I just delete the email (and report them for spamming) but there are several sites on the web from people who called back for the interview that detail the rest of the scam: Basically, one has to buy membership for an exorbitant fee to be included. Anyway, if anyone has dealt with this scam operation I'd be interested in hearing about it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I haven't been contacted (unless spammed by security), but had I seen it, would have gone for the spam key. Appreciate the heads up, Mark. Jack --- On Tue, 11/30/10, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Anyone ever dealt with the Montclair Who's Who in Photography scammers? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 4:29 AM I'm guessing that a lot of people on the PDML have received email from the Montclair Publishing Who's Who con artists. (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=140) They say you're being considered for inclusion in the next edition of their book, please call for an interview, etc. Like most people I just delete the email (and report them for spamming) but there are several sites on the web from people who called back for the interview that detail the rest of the scam: Basically, one has to buy membership for an exorbitant fee to be included. Anyway, if anyone has dealt with this scam operation I'd be interested in hearing about it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Jack Davis wrote: I haven't been contacted (unless spammed by security), but had I seen it, would have gone for the spam key. Appreciate the heads up, Mark. I've been contacted by someone (they found my blog post) who may be seeking to pursue legal action against these people. If you ever do hear from them, it might be helpful to know their sales pitch in some detail. Just a heads up, here :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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how about baiting them then? 2010/11/30 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: Jack Davis wrote: I haven't been contacted (unless spammed by security), but had I seen it, would have gone for the spam key. Appreciate the heads up, Mark. I've been contacted by someone (they found my blog post) who may be seeking to pursue legal action against these people. If you ever do hear from them, it might be helpful to know their sales pitch in some detail. Just a heads up, here :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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All very similar to the 'Who's Who of High School Seniors'. For a 'small' fee your child could be listed and you could buy a book! It was a snail mail offer... Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: I'm guessing that a lot of people on the PDML have received email from the Montclair Publishing Who's Who con artists. (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=140) They say you're being considered for inclusion in the next edition of their book, please call for an interview, etc. Like most people I just delete the email (and report them for spamming) but there are several sites on the web from people who called back for the interview that detail the rest of the scam: Basically, one has to buy membership for an exorbitant fee to be included. Anyway, if anyone has dealt with this scam operation I'd be interested in hearing about it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-11-30 8:13, Mark Roberts wrote: Jack Davis wrote: I haven't been contacted (unless spammed by security), but had I seen it, would have gone for the spam key. Appreciate the heads up, Mark. I've been contacted by someone (they found my blog post) who may be seeking to pursue legal action against these people. If you ever do hear from them, it might be helpful to know their sales pitch in some detail. Just a heads up, here :) I've never dealt with this particular bunch, but I've been approached with various Who's Who scams repeatedly since before I got out of high school (Who's Who Among American High School Students of all things). It's a scam that's been running, and running successfully it appears, since at least the 1970s. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Probably the same slime or a me too. Jack --- On Tue, 11/30/10, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Anyone ever dealt with the Montclair Who's Who in Photography scammers? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 6:18 AM On 2010-11-30 8:13, Mark Roberts wrote: Jack Davis wrote: I haven't been contacted (unless spammed by security), but had I seen it, would have gone for the spam key. Appreciate the heads up, Mark. I've been contacted by someone (they found my blog post) who may be seeking to pursue legal action against these people. If you ever do hear from them, it might be helpful to know their sales pitch in some detail. Just a heads up, here :) I've never dealt with this particular bunch, but I've been approached with various Who's Who scams repeatedly since before I got out of high school (Who's Who Among American High School Students of all things). It's a scam that's been running, and running successfully it appears, since at least the 1970s. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2010-11-30 8:13, Mark Roberts wrote: Jack Davis wrote: I haven't been contacted (unless spammed by security), but had I seen it, would have gone for the spam key. Appreciate the heads up, Mark. I've been contacted by someone (they found my blog post) who may be seeking to pursue legal action against these people. If you ever do hear from them, it might be helpful to know their sales pitch in some detail. Just a heads up, here :) I've never dealt with this particular bunch, but I've been approached with various Who's Who scams repeatedly since before I got out of high school (Who's Who Among American High School Students of all things). It's a scam that's been running, and running successfully it appears, since at least the 1970s. Heck, it probably goes back to the 1870s! There are very few really new scams... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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One of the advantages of being an unknown nobody ... I'm not important enough to be SPAMmed. 8-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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sounds a lot like facebook except the scam is less subtle... 2010/11/30 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: All very similar to the 'Who's Who of High School Seniors'. For a 'small' fee your child could be listed and you could buy a book! It was a snail mail offer... Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: I'm guessing that a lot of people on the PDML have received email from the Montclair Publishing Who's Who con artists. (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=140) They say you're being considered for inclusion in the next edition of their book, please call for an interview, etc. Like most people I just delete the email (and report them for spamming) but there are several sites on the web from people who called back for the interview that detail the rest of the scam: Basically, one has to buy membership for an exorbitant fee to be included. Anyway, if anyone has dealt with this scam operation I'd be interested in hearing about it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 30, 2010, at 11:23 AM, eckinator wrote: sounds a lot like facebook except the scam is less subtle... Nothing like Facebook. Montclair wants to empty your pockets. Facebook just provides a venue for others who want to empty your pockets, but you're free to ignore them. Paul 2010/11/30 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: All very similar to the 'Who's Who of High School Seniors'. For a 'small' fee your child could be listed and you could buy a book! It was a snail mail offer... Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: I'm guessing that a lot of people on the PDML have received email from the Montclair Publishing Who's Who con artists. (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=140) They say you're being considered for inclusion in the next edition of their book, please call for an interview, etc. Like most people I just delete the email (and report them for spamming) but there are several sites on the web from people who called back for the interview that detail the rest of the scam: Basically, one has to buy membership for an exorbitant fee to be included. Anyway, if anyone has dealt with this scam operation I'd be interested in hearing about it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: sounds a lot like facebook except the scam is less subtle... Not really. The Montclair Who's Who scam, according to the reports I've found on the web, always costs money. Respondents have said that when they called the number for their interview they were hit with membership fees of up to $800.00! When they protested about the price, they found there was an alternative package that cost less... sometimes in several steps, down to around $99.00 IIRC. But *no one*, as far as can be determined, gets into the Montclair book for free. Facebook you really can join and use for free. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mark, I haven't received that, but I usually (and again, - just a moment ago) receive spam about Who is Who in America by Marquis Who's Who (to my faculty e-mail). I never investigated that one, - but in my opinion, - none of them deserve my attention. On a related subject, - I remember that a few years ago, somebody ran a similar scam on a different level. Many distinguished scientists received a message telling that they were selected to become a member of some Academy of Sciences (in the US). (I don't remember the exact name of the Academy, but it was neither of the two that are legitimate in the full sense), and once they send a membership fee, their membership will be processed, and blah-blah-blah. Surprisignly (or should I say not surprisingly?) some people bought that and sent the money (a few hundred dollars). And that's despite Ph.D. degrees in sciences and other indications of the intellect. Igor Tue Nov 30 06:29:24 CST 2010 Mark Roberts wrote: I'm guessing that a lot of people on the PDML have received email from the Montclair Publishing Who's Who con artists. (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=140) They say you're being considered for inclusion in the next edition of their book, please call for an interview, etc. Like most people I just delete the email (and report them for spamming) but there are several sites on the web from people who called back for the interview that detail the rest of the scam: Basically, one has to buy membership for an exorbitant fee to be included. Anyway, if anyone has dealt with this scam operation I'd be interested in hearing about it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've never heard from them, which would at least seem to indicate that they're making an effort to maintain a veneer of legitimacy and plausibility. So, I gotta give 'em that much... On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: I'm guessing that a lot of people on the PDML have received email from the Montclair Publishing Who's Who con artists. (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=140) They say you're being considered for inclusion in the next edition of their book, please call for an interview, etc. Like most people I just delete the email (and report them for spamming) but there are several sites on the web from people who called back for the interview that detail the rest of the scam: Basically, one has to buy membership for an exorbitant fee to be included. Anyway, if anyone has dealt with this scam operation I'd be interested in hearing about it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbert http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/ http://wally-gee.deviantart.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Just in case you are interested: Forbes published an article on various Who's Who in 1999: http://www.forbes.com/forbes-life-magazine/1999/0308/063.html Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-11-30 12:30, m...@robertstech.com wrote: Not really. The Montclair Who's Who scam, according to the reports I've found on the web, always costs money. Respondents have said that when they called the number for their interview they were hit with membership fees of up to $800.00! When they protested about the price, they found there was an alternative package that cost less... sometimes in several steps, down to around $99.00 IIRC. But *no one*, as far as can be determined, gets into the Montclair book for free. The one time I responded to one of these scams, back in about 1978 or 1979, it was nothing like that much. That was the ... Among American High School Students. No interview, for the base package, which was simply a copy of the book, if I recall correctly. I don't recall if there were higher level packages. I bought the book, mostly because it was only about US$30 plus shipping, and I think the total was less than US$40. Which, I'm sure, is why I still get these scam invitations, thirty years later. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: I've never dealt with this particular bunch, but I've been approached with various Who's Who scams repeatedly since before I got out of high school (Who's Who Among American High School Students of all things). It's a scam that's been running, and running successfully it appears, since at least the 1970s. My mother paid for my inclusion in one of those books. We all knew it was a scam, but she wouldn't hear it. Still, today, if you ask her about it she'll proudly show you her son's photo in the Who's Who book. (FWIW, Mom knows she was taken for a ride, but her pride refuses to admit it to anyone.) -- Scott (I love my Mommy) Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Igor Roshchin wrote: Just in case you are interested: Forbes published an article on various Who's Who in 1999: http://www.forbes.com/forbes-life-magazine/1999/0308/063.html Thanks Igor. I added that to the list of links at the end of my blog post. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Scott Loveless wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: I've never dealt with this particular bunch, but I've been approached with various Who's Who scams repeatedly since before I got out of high school (Who's Who Among American High School Students of all things). It's a scam that's been running, and running successfully it appears, since at least the 1970s. My mother paid for my inclusion in one of those books. We all knew it was a scam, but she wouldn't hear it. Still, today, if you ask her about it she'll proudly show you her son's photo in the Who's Who book. (FWIW, Mom knows she was taken for a ride, but her pride refuses to admit it to anyone.) That's actually a pretty cool story, Scott. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Scott Loveless On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: I've never dealt with this particular bunch, but I've been approached with various Who's Who scams repeatedly since before I got out of high school (Who's Who Among American High School Students of all things). ?It's a scam that's been running, and running successfully it appears, since at least the 1970s. My mother paid for my inclusion in one of those books. We all knew it was a scam, but she wouldn't hear it. Still, today, if you ask her about it she'll proudly show you her son's photo in the Who's Who book. (FWIW, Mom knows she was taken for a ride, but her pride refuses to admit it to anyone.) OTOH, if she went in with her eyes open, knowing she was paying to have you included in the book and she got what she paid for, then she didn't get taken for a ride. She bought something she wanted, and apparently is satisfied with the purchase. You might argue with the price she paid, but it's her money to spend as she pleases. If she's happy with the result, who can begrudge her happiness? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Here is a YouTube clip from the movie The Jerk that is related to the psychology of the Who's Who: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOTDn2A7hcY Smile and enjoy! Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
