Re: PESO: Street Photography

[Bruce Walker]

And people complain that DSLRs are too big to carry around. :-/ I
swear that in 2023 we'll see photos of people doing this and say I
can't believe we were so dopey.

On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Street Photography, Modern Style:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17508310
> Comments are invited.
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Re: PESO: Street Photography

[Alan C]

Too true. After a confirmation service at St. Francis yesterday, when in was 
photo time for the confirmands with the Bishop, out came the iPads & Smart 
phones - no cameras.


Alan

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Street Photography, Modern Style:
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PESO: Street Photography

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Street Photography, Modern Style:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17508310
Comments are invited.

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Re: OT: B&W film photography from a bygone era

[Joseph McAllister]

You can get 2-5 hits a day if you subscribe to the RSS Feed or an email 
delivery of 

http://www.shorpy.com

a daily set of images from the Library of Congress along with shared photos 
from members of the group. They try to stick with 100+ year old stuff, but are 
liberal about that, as they are for subscriber submissions of the 50s and 60s.


On Jul 30, 2013, at 09:39 , John Sessoms wrote:

> I ran across this & thought I'd share. There's something about the grain in 
> good B&W film photography that is just "Fab"!
> 
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/29/mike-mitchell-beatles_n_3660125.html?utm_hp_ref=arts
> 
> I do love digital, even if I'm not really in to digital B&W, but I have yet 
> to see anything produced digitally that compares favorably with this.


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Re: OT: B&W film photography from a bygone era

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice images, but who needs another boy band?
Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> I ran across this & thought I'd share. There's something about the grain in
> good B&W film photography that is just "Fab"!
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/29/mike-mitchell-beatles_n_3660125.html?utm_hp_ref=arts
>
> I do love digital, even if I'm not really in to digital B&W, but I have yet
> to see anything produced digitally that compares favorably with this.
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Re: OT: B&W film photography from a bygone era

[Darren Addy]

Those are some gorgeous images. Thanks for sharing the link!

Silver Efex Pro 2 gives you lots of B&W film emulations to choose
from, and you can tweak individual settings, including grain. I don't
think this look would be that hard to duplicate with Silver Efex Pro 2
(probably other tools also).

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:39 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> I ran across this & thought I'd share. There's something about the grain in
> good B&W film photography that is just "Fab"!
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/29/mike-mitchell-beatles_n_3660125.html?utm_hp_ref=arts
>
> I do love digital, even if I'm not really in to digital B&W, but I have yet
> to see anything produced digitally that compares favorably with this.
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OT: B&W film photography from a bygone era

[John Sessoms]

I ran across this & thought I'd share. There's something about the grain 
in good B&W film photography that is just "Fab"!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/29/mike-mitchell-beatles_n_3660125.html?utm_hp_ref=arts

I do love digital, even if I'm not really in to digital B&W, but I have 
yet to see anything produced digitally that compares favorably with this.


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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[John]

On 7/26/2013 9:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Rob Studdert wrote:


I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he
sounds like a reformed smoker or a born again...


I didn't even look at it because I expected as much. I genuinely
like a lot of street photography (Juan Buhler and Frank Theriault
being amongst my favorite practitioners!) but I've noticed that the
people who are good at it tend not to write about it and the people
who write about it tend to give my dry heaves.




I got as far as him teaching a street photography workshop in Tokyo
where someone gave him a Leica M6.

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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[Bill]

On 26/07/2013 7:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Rob Studdert wrote:
... but I've noticed that the people
who are good at it tend not to write about it and the people who write
about it tend to give my dry heaves.
  

um. MARK!!

bill

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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[Bill]

On 26/07/2013 7:15 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 27 July 2013 03:10, Larry Colen  wrote:


If hipness could kill, he'd be in the ICU.

Seriously though, there is a lot that you can learn from shooting film,
though most of it could be applied to shooting with a digital camera.
There is nothing preventing you from taking care to set up each photo
with digital, and then move on after it has been taken.

He talks about the dynamic range of film, and to my surprise Tri-X
might exceed the dynamic range of the K-5 at ASA 400
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/dynamic.html
ItemNumeric Stops of range in subject
Polaroid Sprintscan 120 scanner 3.9dDepends on the film being 
scanned.
Tmax 400 film (0.58 CI) 3.4d19.5 stops
Tmax 100 film (0.58 CI) 3.0d17 stops
Tri-X 35mm film (0.58 CI)   2.4d13.5 stops
Kodak DCS Pro 14n digital   69dB11.5 stops
Fuji Finepix S3 digital camera  --  10 stops (estimated)
Tri-X 35mm film (0.75 CI)   2.4d10.5 stops
Nikon D2x digital camera--  9.5 stops (measured)
Typical LCD display 500:1   9 stops
Kodachrome 25, 64, 200 (1.4 gamma)  3.7d8 stops
Ektachrome 100 (1.4 gamma)  3.4d7.5 stops
Human eye (no iris change)  150:1   7 stops

I will say that the kinesthetic experience of using a film camera is
different than that of using a digital. In comparison, most digital
cameras feel nearly disposable.

I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he
sounds like a reformed smoker or a born again...

In the case of latitude on film vs digital my theory is that people
are far more likely to hold back exposure to prevent burning out
highlights in digital media because it's so obvious, especially when
working in colour. In the case of B&W film you can burn baby burn and
even at max density there is still a relatively soft transition into
the normally exposed areas and of course there are no giveaway colour
shifts. I'm betting that the Leica M-Monochrom would seem a lot more
"film like".


His numbers are whacked out. Tri-X is hard pressed to give more than a 
10 stop range, and you had better be prepared to do some really 
deliberate exposure and development to get it to 10 stops, much less 
anything greater, and there wasn't a Kodachrome made that would give 
more than a 6 stop range.
The K5, with it's 14 stop range is comfortably better than ANY colour 
film ever made, and can only be outdone in dynamic range by B&W film by 
extreme over exposure/extreme under development. N-4 or N-5 development 
will hit close to 14 stops with FP-4  (been there, done that, have the 
picture to prove it), but you are exposing the film at something like 
ISO 6 and then giving the film a reach around to get it to cooperate.


bill

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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[steve harley]

on 2013-07-26 10:43 Darren Addy wrote

Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
cells.)


boredom is an essential human state and crucial to spiritual development


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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[Mark C]

Thanks for posting that. Personally, I agree with many of his points and 
appreciate him sharing his evolution into the analog world.


Personally. I like film because I like the process and results. I like 
digital for the same reasons. And hand shadows And most anything 
esle that I've decided to do more than once.


Mark




On 7/26/2013 12:43 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
cells.)

So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET
PHOTOGRAPHY will get a kick out of. And if you want to read some
arguments for why Film is Not Yet Dead (it just smells funny), you'll
also find 'em here. Enjoy!

http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/04/22/why-digital-is-dead-for-me-in-street-photography/



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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[Darren Addy]

I tend to feel the same way about Photoshop gurus. (Not really, just
feeling like a smartburro.)

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Rob Studdert wrote:
>
>>I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he
>>sounds like a reformed smoker or a born again...
>
> I didn't even look at it because I expected as much. I genuinely like
> a lot of street photography (Juan Buhler and Frank Theriault being
> amongst my favorite practitioners!) but I've noticed that the people
> who are good at it tend not to write about it and the people who write
> about it tend to give my dry heaves.
>
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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[Mark Roberts]

Rob Studdert wrote:

>I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he
>sounds like a reformed smoker or a born again...

I didn't even look at it because I expected as much. I genuinely like
a lot of street photography (Juan Buhler and Frank Theriault being
amongst my favorite practitioners!) but I've noticed that the people
who are good at it tend not to write about it and the people who write
about it tend to give my dry heaves.
 
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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[Rob Studdert]

On 27 July 2013 03:10, Larry Colen  wrote:

> If hipness could kill, he'd be in the ICU.
>
> Seriously though, there is a lot that you can learn from shooting film,
> though most of it could be applied to shooting with a digital camera.
> There is nothing preventing you from taking care to set up each photo
> with digital, and then move on after it has been taken.
>
> He talks about the dynamic range of film, and to my surprise Tri-X
> might exceed the dynamic range of the K-5 at ASA 400
> http://www.dantestella.com/technical/dynamic.html
> ItemNumeric Stops of range in subject
> Polaroid Sprintscan 120 scanner 3.9dDepends on the film being 
> scanned.
> Tmax 400 film (0.58 CI) 3.4d19.5 stops
> Tmax 100 film (0.58 CI) 3.0d17 stops
> Tri-X 35mm film (0.58 CI)   2.4d13.5 stops
> Kodak DCS Pro 14n digital   69dB11.5 stops
> Fuji Finepix S3 digital camera  --  10 stops (estimated)
> Tri-X 35mm film (0.75 CI)   2.4d10.5 stops
> Nikon D2x digital camera--  9.5 stops (measured)
> Typical LCD display 500:1   9 stops
> Kodachrome 25, 64, 200 (1.4 gamma)  3.7d8 stops
> Ektachrome 100 (1.4 gamma)  3.4d7.5 stops
> Human eye (no iris change)  150:1   7 stops
>
> I will say that the kinesthetic experience of using a film camera is
> different than that of using a digital. In comparison, most digital
> cameras feel nearly disposable.

I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he
sounds like a reformed smoker or a born again...

In the case of latitude on film vs digital my theory is that people
are far more likely to hold back exposure to prevent burning out
highlights in digital media because it's so obvious, especially when
working in colour. In the case of B&W film you can burn baby burn and
even at max density there is still a relatively soft transition into
the normally exposed areas and of course there are no giveaway colour
shifts. I'm betting that the Leica M-Monochrom would seem a lot more
"film like".


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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[John Sessoms]

... a Christmas tree on each end of the roll.

On 7/26/2013 1:50 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Film vs Digital (in a nutshell) http://www.shoeboxblog.com/?p=32912

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:43:22AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:

Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
cells.)

So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET
PHOTOGRAPHY will get a kick out of. And if you want to read some
arguments for why Film is Not Yet Dead (it just smells funny), you'll
also find 'em here. Enjoy!

http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/04/22/why-digital-is-dead-for-me-in-street-photography/


If hipness could kill, he'd be in the ICU.

Seriously though, there is a lot that you can learn from shooting film,
though most of it could be applied to shooting with a digital camera.
There is nothing preventing you from taking care to set up each photo
with digital, and then move on after it has been taken.

He talks about the dynamic range of film, and to my surprise Tri-X
might exceed the dynamic range of the K-5 at ASA 400
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/dynamic.html
ItemNumeric Stops of range in subject
Polaroid Sprintscan 120 scanner 3.9dDepends on the film being 
scanned.
Tmax 400 film (0.58 CI) 3.4d19.5 stops
Tmax 100 film (0.58 CI) 3.0d17 stops
Tri-X 35mm film (0.58 CI)   2.4d13.5 stops
Kodak DCS Pro 14n digital   69dB11.5 stops
Fuji Finepix S3 digital camera  --  10 stops (estimated)
Tri-X 35mm film (0.75 CI)   2.4d10.5 stops
Nikon D2x digital camera--  9.5 stops (measured)
Typical LCD display 500:1   9 stops
Kodachrome 25, 64, 200 (1.4 gamma)  3.7d8 stops
Ektachrome 100 (1.4 gamma)  3.4d7.5 stops
Human eye (no iris change)  150:1   7 stops

I will say that the kinesthetic experience of using a film camera is
different than that of using a digital. In comparison, most digital
cameras feel nearly disposable.

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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[John Sessoms]

Boredom is just Nature's way of telling you it's a convenient time to 
take a nap.


On 7/26/2013 12:43 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
cells.)

So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET
PHOTOGRAPHY will get a kick out of. And if you want to read some
arguments for why Film is Not Yet Dead (it just smells funny), you'll
also find 'em here. Enjoy!

http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/04/22/why-digital-is-dead-for-me-in-street-photography/



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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[Larry Colen]

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:50:30PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
> Film vs Digital (in a nutshell) http://www.shoeboxblog.com/?p=32912
> 
I just saw a reference that 10% of all the photographs ever taken, 
were taken in the past 12 months.

http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/07/monarchy-versus-the-panopticon.html#more

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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[Darren Addy]

Film vs Digital (in a nutshell) http://www.shoeboxblog.com/?p=32912

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:43:22AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
>> Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
>> am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
>> cells.)
>>
>> So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET
>> PHOTOGRAPHY will get a kick out of. And if you want to read some
>> arguments for why Film is Not Yet Dead (it just smells funny), you'll
>> also find 'em here. Enjoy!
>>
>> http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/04/22/why-digital-is-dead-for-me-in-street-photography/
>
> If hipness could kill, he'd be in the ICU.
>
> Seriously though, there is a lot that you can learn from shooting film,
> though most of it could be applied to shooting with a digital camera.
> There is nothing preventing you from taking care to set up each photo
> with digital, and then move on after it has been taken.
>
> He talks about the dynamic range of film, and to my surprise Tri-X
> might exceed the dynamic range of the K-5 at ASA 400
> http://www.dantestella.com/technical/dynamic.html
> ItemNumeric Stops of range in subject
> Polaroid Sprintscan 120 scanner 3.9dDepends on the film being 
> scanned.
> Tmax 400 film (0.58 CI) 3.4d19.5 stops
> Tmax 100 film (0.58 CI) 3.0d17 stops
> Tri-X 35mm film (0.58 CI)   2.4d13.5 stops
> Kodak DCS Pro 14n digital   69dB11.5 stops
> Fuji Finepix S3 digital camera  --  10 stops (estimated)
> Tri-X 35mm film (0.75 CI)   2.4d10.5 stops
> Nikon D2x digital camera--  9.5 stops (measured)
> Typical LCD display 500:1   9 stops
> Kodachrome 25, 64, 200 (1.4 gamma)  3.7d8 stops
> Ektachrome 100 (1.4 gamma)  3.4d7.5 stops
> Human eye (no iris change)  150:1   7 stops
>
> I will say that the kinesthetic experience of using a film camera is
> different than that of using a digital. In comparison, most digital
> cameras feel nearly disposable.
>
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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[Larry Colen]

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:43:22AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
> Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
> am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
> cells.)
> 
> So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET
> PHOTOGRAPHY will get a kick out of. And if you want to read some
> arguments for why Film is Not Yet Dead (it just smells funny), you'll
> also find 'em here. Enjoy!
> 
> http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/04/22/why-digital-is-dead-for-me-in-street-photography/

If hipness could kill, he'd be in the ICU.

Seriously though, there is a lot that you can learn from shooting film, 
though most of it could be applied to shooting with a digital camera.
There is nothing preventing you from taking care to set up each photo
with digital, and then move on after it has been taken.

He talks about the dynamic range of film, and to my surprise Tri-X
might exceed the dynamic range of the K-5 at ASA 400
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/dynamic.html
ItemNumeric Stops of range in subject
Polaroid Sprintscan 120 scanner 3.9dDepends on the film being 
scanned.
Tmax 400 film (0.58 CI) 3.4d19.5 stops
Tmax 100 film (0.58 CI) 3.0d17 stops
Tri-X 35mm film (0.58 CI)   2.4d13.5 stops
Kodak DCS Pro 14n digital   69dB11.5 stops
Fuji Finepix S3 digital camera  --  10 stops (estimated)
Tri-X 35mm film (0.75 CI)   2.4d10.5 stops
Nikon D2x digital camera--  9.5 stops (measured)
Typical LCD display 500:1   9 stops
Kodachrome 25, 64, 200 (1.4 gamma)  3.7d8 stops
Ektachrome 100 (1.4 gamma)  3.4d7.5 stops
Human eye (no iris change)  150:1   7 stops

I will say that the kinesthetic experience of using a film camera is
different than that of using a digital. In comparison, most digital
cameras feel nearly disposable.

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OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

[Darren Addy]

Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
cells.)

So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET
PHOTOGRAPHY will get a kick out of. And if you want to read some
arguments for why Film is Not Yet Dead (it just smells funny), you'll
also find 'em here. Enjoy!

http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/04/22/why-digital-is-dead-for-me-in-street-photography/
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Re: Available model photography

[steve harley]

on 2013-07-19 9:15 Aahz Maruch wrote

One thing you didn't mention is the option of taking photos of someone
doing an activity.  (Although this is far from guaranteed to work, I took
a really nice photo of my mom cooking and she hated it because it made
her look angry, so I deleted it.)


an old boss of mine had had a professional career doing environmental 
portraits, and was at times quite good at it; since we were working in 
environmental journalism, at first i didn't quite get what an environmental 
portrait should be; of course it is a portrait of a person in their 
environment, and it opens up tremendous possibilities for illustrating who a 
person is


while i'm not much of a portraitist, i do feel like shooting environmental 
portraits can help cut through the awkwardness


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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Frank:  This is a super fantastic shot!  One of your recent bests for sure!  
Love the composition, rendering, subject!  Just excellent work!  Cheers, 
Christine




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> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank 
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> spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Re: Available model photography

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sun, Jul 07, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:
>
> I started out from the premise of "Photo sessions for the shy", and here is
> what I wrote on the subject of making people feel comfortable in front of the
> camera.  I would greatly appreciate feedback, suggestions and further 
> ideas for future iterations on these topics:

Looks like a good start, don't forget to do a plain copyediting and
proofreading session before you publish this.  (You have a couple of
spots where the wording is a bit awkward, I assumed you didn't want a
writing critique at this point.)

> The most important aspect of getting a good photograph of someone is
> getting them to relax. It is hard to relax, however, when just about
> every photo that has been taken of you sucks. What this means is that
> the first step in getting good photos of someone, is to take, and show
> them, photos of themself that simply do not suck.

One thing you didn't mention is the option of taking photos of someone
doing an activity.  (Although this is far from guaranteed to work, I took
a really nice photo of my mom cooking and she hated it because it made
her look angry, so I deleted it.)

That reminds me, I've seen advice somewhere (probably this list) that the
photographer should make clear that any photos the model hates will get
deleted.  That probably helps reluctant models relax.
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Re: Available model photography

[Walt]

Great tip-sheet, Larry.

In my extremely limited experience of getting people to pose for me 
(though, I suppose the family portraiture I've been doing lately is 
somewhat applicable), I've found that simply reassuring people that it's 
not in my interest to take crappy photographs of them seems to help.


Still, there are some people who, when placed in front of a camera, see 
a firing squad. I'm one of them, so I can sympathize. And maybe that 
helps a little. I was able to get one particular lady to laugh a few 
times by not berating her, but poking a little good-natured fun at her 
obvious fear. And what I ended up capturing was a moment of shy laughter 
-- which, as it happens, captured her personality. And once I captured 
that, I made sure to let her know, "Now THAT'S what I'm looking for!" 
And that seemed to help her relax.


Now that I think about it, one of my quirks when I'm shooting and the 
photos just aren't going my way is to utter an occasional, "Hmm..." or 
"Mm-kay..." as the clunkers pile up, until I finally get a good one -- 
at which point I'll let them know in no uncertain terms. That little bit 
of positive reinforcement seems to work much better than simply doling 
out compliments in getting people to drop their guards. It's as though 
they sense my excitement at getting a good shot and want to do whatever 
it takes to help me get more -- as if the whole matter stops being about 
themselves and suddenly becomes a matter of making good pictures. I've 
even noticed that people will start coming up with their own ideas -- 
some good, some less so -- but I humor them anyway, and it seems to 
foster a cooperative relationship.


With regard to showing them the photos, I've only done that on the back 
of the camera. One thing I've learned is that some images look great on 
the camera display but horrible on a laptop screen, and I don't want to 
risk showing them a photo that might disappoint them. I guess it's a 
little imperious, but my attitude is that it's my job to go through the 
photos and decide which ones are keepers and which ones aren't, and I 
don't have any way of knowing that until I've gone through them all and 
processed them. After all, they have no idea what a photo might look 
like when converted to black & white with a red or blue filter. And 
there's no point in letting them see blemishes that won't be there after 
a little bit of touching up. So, I tell them that I'm going to take them 
home, go through them, pick out the good ones, do some processing and 
get back to them in a few days. They seem more than happy with that 
arrangement (so far).


-- Walt

On 7/7/2013 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Certain topics of discussion tend to get a lot of attention in photography
fora, equipment, lighting, composition, and occasionally even things that
you can do to improve your skill as a photographer. Models don't get a lot
of discussion beyond "Where can I find someone willing to pose for me for
free?".

I've been working for a while on the concept of making my subjects feel more
comfortable in front of the camera, but I'm realizing that it is just part
of the bigger question of how to teach your subjects to be better at
modeling. So, first, I will pose (heh!) this question:
"What to people need to be taught to enable the photographer to get better
pictures of them?"

I can see answers ranging from "The model doesn't need to understand anything,
it's the photographer's job to know all that and just tell the model what to
do" to "It's good for the model to understand at least the basics of how
certain poses and their position relative to the light affect their appearance".

I started out from the premise of "Photo sessions for the shy", and here is
what I wrote on the subject of making people feel comfortable in front of the
camera.  I would greatly appreciate feedback, suggestions and further
ideas for future iterations on these topics:

For many, if not most, people, the idea of a photo shoot is both enticing
and intimidating. If you are like most people, you do not have any photos
of your self that are not horrible, which makes the thought of good photos
seem at best, a pleasant fantasy.

How many of the photos of you were taken by someone shoving a point and shoot
camera (or a cellphone) in your face, and then berating you for not smiling?
Even most movie stars are not going to look good in those conditions. Even
apart from the technical limitiations of the camera, the background will
probably be cluttered, the lighting bad, and very few people can give a
genuine, relaxed smile in those conditions.

One very important thing to keep in mind is that a good photograph of
you is not necessarily one that makes you look like a movie star. For me
a

RE: Mindful photography

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I took a picture of dead dandelions the other day...

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Eric Weir 
Sent: July 12, 2013 7/12/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Mindful photography


I suspect many of you don't need to be told this, but maybe there are some who 
would find it enlightening---at lest slightly.
http://www.spring.org.uk/2013/07/mindful-photography-a-simple-and-fun-exercise-that-boosts-well-being.php

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Mindful photography

[Eric Weir]

I suspect many of you don't need to be told this, but maybe there are some who 
would find it enlightening---at lest slightly.
http://www.spring.org.uk/2013/07/mindful-photography-a-simple-and-fun-exercise-that-boosts-well-being.php

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Re: OT: Online Photography Certification Courses

[John]

Likely NOT. Looks like a meaningless "certification" from some no name
diploma mill. The paper it's printed on would be far too coarse &
brittle to use for the only thing it would really be worth; not
"squeezably soft" enough.

"Each course includes a full trial version of the software for each class."

Right, 'cause you can't just download a free 30 day trial directly from
Adobe & give it a whirl to see how it works.


On 7/11/2013 1:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I received this coupon offer today from Groupon.

I have no ideal whether these programs have any value or not, but I
thought someone might know a young photographer (or an ancient one
like me) who might be interested in looking at such a course.

http://www.groupon.com/deals/photo-art-studio-8?p=1&utm_source=channel_occasions_ANT-deals&utm_medium=email&sid=3516b9b2-b8aa-463c-bcb0-eb689c4e7cdd&division=central-jersey&user=f268fecdb41ff8166e9feb11f538fc1a5b55800c7528782cef1cf402348ac60e&date=20130711&s=body&c=image&d=occasions_deal

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola




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OT: Online Photography Certification Courses

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I received this coupon offer today from Groupon.

I have no ideal whether these programs have any value or not, but I
thought someone might know a young photographer (or an ancient one
like me) who might be interested in looking at such a course.

http://www.groupon.com/deals/photo-art-studio-8?p=1&utm_source=channel_occasions_ANT-deals&utm_medium=email&sid=3516b9b2-b8aa-463c-bcb0-eb689c4e7cdd&division=central-jersey&user=f268fecdb41ff8166e9feb11f538fc1a5b55800c7528782cef1cf402348ac60e&date=20130711&s=body&c=image&d=occasions_deal

Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

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Thanks, Dave! And thanks to all who looked and commented.

Cheers,
frank

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From: David J Brooks 
Sent: July 8, 2013 7/8/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography

Frank, one of ther best so far this year.

Dave

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 wrote:
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

[David J Brooks]

Frank, one of ther best so far this year.

Dave

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 wrote:
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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

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Usually I would just be leaving work (401/Dixie) at 6, but this Tuesday I have 
an appointment a few blocks from my place at 5, should be done at 6. 

Let me talk with Judy, she would enjoy this. Might be an opportunity for us to 
soak up some Mississauga culture! 

I'll let you know...

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Bruce Walker 
Sent: July 7, 2013 7/7/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography

Frank: Fernando Terrazzino and Adam Maas (Mawz) may be lurking still.

We could meet up just about anywhere in TO. Our group is so small we
could meet in a phone booth and not pack the joint. :-)

It'd be great if you could make it out to my little do at The Grange
House in Mississauga. I could give you a lift if you will be in south
Etobicoke or Kipling subway circa 6 PM.


On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 7:47 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Active members would be you, Bruce, Dave Brooks and me. Am I missing anyone? 
> Apologies if I am.
>
> Members have come and gone over the years with Dave and I being constant for 
> twelve or thirteen years.
>
> We should get together. Bruce's upcoming event would be nice but I'm still 
> unsure I can make it.
>
> Otherwise we should arrange something...
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Gerrit Visser 
> Sent: July 7, 2013 7/7/13
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Subject: RE: PESO - Urban Photography
>
> there must be 4 or 5 of us by now :-)
>
> Gerrit
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> knarftheria...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 7:27 PM
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography
>
> Thanks, Chris. Those photos are part of the main building for Ryerson
> University's School of Imaging Arts (formerly School of Photography; times
> change). I walk by it from time to time and always thought there was a good
> photo opportunity somewhere there and the gentleman sitting there last week
> provided that opportunity. There were a couple of interesting photos on that
> walk that I had to crop out for compositional reasons but what can you do?
>
> Apparently they have a most impressive archive there. I don't know how much
> they have on display but I certainly like what's on the wall.
>
> One of these days I'll have to check it out and report to the list. Sounds
> like an opportunity to revive TOPDML.
>
> ;-)
>
> Thanks to all who commented and looked. Glad you enjoyed.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Chris Mitchell 
> Sent: July 5, 2013 7/5/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography
>
> Superb Frank!
>
> Chris
>
> On 5 July 2013 04:06, knarftheria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>>
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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

[Bruce Walker]

Frank: Fernando Terrazzino and Adam Maas (Mawz) may be lurking still.

We could meet up just about anywhere in TO. Our group is so small we
could meet in a phone booth and not pack the joint. :-)

It'd be great if you could make it out to my little do at The Grange
House in Mississauga. I could give you a lift if you will be in south
Etobicoke or Kipling subway circa 6 PM.


On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 7:47 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Active members would be you, Bruce, Dave Brooks and me. Am I missing anyone? 
> Apologies if I am.
>
> Members have come and gone over the years with Dave and I being constant for 
> twelve or thirteen years.
>
> We should get together. Bruce's upcoming event would be nice but I'm still 
> unsure I can make it.
>
> Otherwise we should arrange something...
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Gerrit Visser 
> Sent: July 7, 2013 7/7/13
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Subject: RE: PESO - Urban Photography
>
> there must be 4 or 5 of us by now :-)
>
> Gerrit
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> knarftheria...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 7:27 PM
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography
>
> Thanks, Chris. Those photos are part of the main building for Ryerson
> University's School of Imaging Arts (formerly School of Photography; times
> change). I walk by it from time to time and always thought there was a good
> photo opportunity somewhere there and the gentleman sitting there last week
> provided that opportunity. There were a couple of interesting photos on that
> walk that I had to crop out for compositional reasons but what can you do?
>
> Apparently they have a most impressive archive there. I don't know how much
> they have on display but I certainly like what's on the wall.
>
> One of these days I'll have to check it out and report to the list. Sounds
> like an opportunity to revive TOPDML.
>
> ;-)
>
> Thanks to all who commented and looked. Glad you enjoyed.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Chris Mitchell 
> Sent: July 5, 2013 7/5/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography
>
> Superb Frank!
>
> Chris
>
> On 5 July 2013 04:06, knarftheria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>>
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RE: PESO - Urban Photography

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Active members would be you, Bruce, Dave Brooks and me. Am I missing anyone? 
Apologies if I am.

Members have come and gone over the years with Dave and I being constant for 
twelve or thirteen years.

We should get together. Bruce's upcoming event would be nice but I'm still 
unsure I can make it.

Otherwise we should arrange something...

Cheers,
frank

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From: Gerrit Visser 
Sent: July 7, 2013 7/7/13
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there must be 4 or 5 of us by now :-)

Gerrit

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Thanks, Chris. Those photos are part of the main building for Ryerson
University's School of Imaging Arts (formerly School of Photography; times
change). I walk by it from time to time and always thought there was a good
photo opportunity somewhere there and the gentleman sitting there last week
provided that opportunity. There were a couple of interesting photos on that
walk that I had to crop out for compositional reasons but what can you do?

Apparently they have a most impressive archive there. I don't know how much
they have on display but I certainly like what's on the wall. 

One of these days I'll have to check it out and report to the list. Sounds
like an opportunity to revive TOPDML.

;-)

Thanks to all who commented and looked. Glad you enjoyed.

Cheers,
frank



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Superb Frank!

Chris

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RE: PESO - Urban Photography

[Gerrit Visser]

there must be 4 or 5 of us by now :-)

Gerrit

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Thanks, Chris. Those photos are part of the main building for Ryerson
University's School of Imaging Arts (formerly School of Photography; times
change). I walk by it from time to time and always thought there was a good
photo opportunity somewhere there and the gentleman sitting there last week
provided that opportunity. There were a couple of interesting photos on that
walk that I had to crop out for compositional reasons but what can you do?

Apparently they have a most impressive archive there. I don't know how much
they have on display but I certainly like what's on the wall. 

One of these days I'll have to check it out and report to the list. Sounds
like an opportunity to revive TOPDML.

;-)

Thanks to all who commented and looked. Glad you enjoyed.

Cheers,
frank



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Superb Frank!

Chris

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Thanks, Chris. Those photos are part of the main building for Ryerson 
University's School of Imaging Arts (formerly School of Photography; times 
change). I walk by it from time to time and always thought there was a good 
photo opportunity somewhere there and the gentleman sitting there last week 
provided that opportunity. There were a couple of interesting photos on that 
walk that I had to crop out for compositional reasons but what can you do?

Apparently they have a most impressive archive there. I don't know how much 
they have on display but I certainly like what's on the wall. 

One of these days I'll have to check it out and report to the list. Sounds like 
an opportunity to revive TOPDML.

;-)

Thanks to all who commented and looked. Glad you enjoyed.

Cheers,
frank



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Superb Frank!

Chris

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Available model photography

[Larry Colen]

Certain topics of discussion tend to get a lot of attention in photography
fora, equipment, lighting, composition, and occasionally even things that 
you can do to improve your skill as a photographer. Models don't get a lot 
of discussion beyond "Where can I find someone willing to pose for me for 
free?".

I've been working for a while on the concept of making my subjects feel more
comfortable in front of the camera, but I'm realizing that it is just part
of the bigger question of how to teach your subjects to be better at 
modeling. So, first, I will pose (heh!) this question:
"What to people need to be taught to enable the photographer to get better
pictures of them?"

I can see answers ranging from "The model doesn't need to understand anything,
it's the photographer's job to know all that and just tell the model what to 
do" to "It's good for the model to understand at least the basics of how
certain poses and their position relative to the light affect their appearance".

I started out from the premise of "Photo sessions for the shy", and here is
what I wrote on the subject of making people feel comfortable in front of the
camera.  I would greatly appreciate feedback, suggestions and further 
ideas for future iterations on these topics:

For many, if not most, people, the idea of a photo shoot is both enticing
and intimidating. If you are like most people, you do not have any photos
of your self that are not horrible, which makes the thought of good photos
seem at best, a pleasant fantasy.

How many of the photos of you were taken by someone shoving a point and shoot
camera (or a cellphone) in your face, and then berating you for not smiling?
Even most movie stars are not going to look good in those conditions. Even
apart from the technical limitiations of the camera, the background will
probably be cluttered, the lighting bad, and very few people can give a
genuine, relaxed smile in those conditions.

One very important thing to keep in mind is that a good photograph of
you is not necessarily one that makes you look like a movie star. For me
a good photograph of someone is a beautiful photo, that looks like the
person being photographed.

The most important aspect of getting a good photograph of someone is
getting them to relax. It is hard to relax, however, when just about
every photo that has been taken of you sucks. What this means is that
the first step in getting good photos of someone, is to take, and show
them, photos of themself that simply do not suck.

Photos that don't suck start with basic technical details.
Making sure that the background is appropriate,
and not cluttered or distracting, decent lighting, correct exposure
and proper focus. There are shelves worth of books on this subject.

The next step is to take pictures where you don't do any of the things that
are pretty much guaranteed to make a photo of someone suck:
Don't insist that they smile, few things look worse than the rictus of a
forced smile.
Don't berate them for doing things wrong.
Don't criticize their appearance.

There are some things you can do to help them look good:
Be friendly, and accepting.
Give them constructive feedback, on what they are doing well, as what they 
could do better.
Give them advice and suggestions on how to pose. If they knew what to do, 
they'd already have good pictures of themselves.
The advent of digital photography, however, makes two things possible that do 
more than just about anything else to help get pictures that don't suck of 
someone.
It is possible to take hundreds of photos in a sitting. If you take a couple 
hundred pictures of just about anyone you are almost guaranteed to get at least 
a few where they don't have a stupid expression on their face.
The other advantage of digital photography is the near instant feedback.
After shooting for half an hour, you can load the photos on the computer, and 
review them. Ideally, the photographer would go through and throw out the worst 
clinkers first, but there is rarely time for that. Looking through the photos, 
gives the subject a chance to see photos of them that are not only not bad, but 
probably pretty good. There is a good chance that even mediocre will be better 
than any photos they have of themselves.
If you don't believe me, look at what people put on their profiles on dating 
sites. It makes sense that they're going to use the best that they have, and 
most profile photos seriously suck.
The other advantage of the review session, and it's important to stress this, 
is that it gives the subject to learn what does, and doesn't work.
Between being more relaxed, and having a better idea of what to do, the second
set of photos, tends to be a lot better, very few will suck, and many will 
actually be good.
The third set is where the magic often really starts happening. The subject 

Re: PESO - Urban Photography

[Chris Mitchell]

Superb Frank!

Chris

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Re:PESO - Urban Photography

[Don Guthrie]

I love this type of photo and this one is great!

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http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1

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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

[Walt]

I rather dig that, Frank!

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http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1

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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent!

Paul
On Jul 5, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

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> 
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1
>> 
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
> 
> Love it mate - superb.
> 
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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

[John Sessoms]

From: knarftheriault

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
frank


Classic.

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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

[Steve Cottrell]

On 5/7/13, knarftheria...@gmail.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1
>
>Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Love it mate - superb.

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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

[Bruce Walker]

That's a fine, fine shot, Frank. Intriguing, whimsical. Another one
for your Someday A Book list.

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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

[Rick Womer]

Excellent scene and composition, Frank!  I really like this one.

Rick
 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

[Jack Davis]

Powerful and provocative image! B&W is well chosen.

Jack


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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very interesting.  I like the contrast between the celebrities above
and the apparently tiny little average Joe beneath (in both senses of
the word) them.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


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PESO - Urban Photography

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1

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Re: Tallinn Flower Festival 2013 | Roman Melihhov Photography

[John Sessoms]

From: David J Brooks

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Mark Roberts  
wrote:

John Sessoms wrote:


From: Roman Melihhov

http://roman.blakout.net/index.php?/category/87

^^^ It was worse than last years festivals. I couldn't find works that
kept me shooting + workers with their lawn trimmers wouldn't let enjoy
peace of mind and actually feel beautiful zenity of the garden. They
should have done trimming grass by 5am not 2pm during visiting time.
Anyway, among this noisy disaster these are few works I (tried hard) to
enjoy...


QR codes superimposed on the images don't help much.


And QR codes on web images are absolutely pointless.


Same as if Mark asks if i'm going on the Attic window hike.

Dave


My current life goal is to lose 75 lbs & exercise enough so that I will 
have the stamina to make the Attic Window hike.


This has replaced my former life goal to lose 50 lbs & exercise ...

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Re: Tallinn Flower Festival 2013 | Roman Melihhov Photography

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> John Sessoms wrote:
>
>>From: Roman Melihhov
>>> http://roman.blakout.net/index.php?/category/87
>>>
>>> ^^^ It was worse than last years festivals. I couldn't find works that
>>> kept me shooting + workers with their lawn trimmers wouldn't let enjoy
>>> peace of mind and actually feel beautiful zenity of the garden. They
>>> should have done trimming grass by 5am not 2pm during visiting time.
>>> Anyway, among this noisy disaster these are few works I (tried hard) to
>>> enjoy...
>>
>>QR codes superimposed on the images don't help much.
>
> And QR codes on web images are absolutely pointless.

Same as if Mark asks if i'm going on the Attic window hike.

Dave
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Re: Tallinn Flower Festival 2013 | Roman Melihhov Photography

[Mark Roberts]

John Sessoms wrote:

>From: Roman Melihhov
>> http://roman.blakout.net/index.php?/category/87
>>
>> ^^^ It was worse than last years festivals. I couldn't find works that
>> kept me shooting + workers with their lawn trimmers wouldn't let enjoy
>> peace of mind and actually feel beautiful zenity of the garden. They
>> should have done trimming grass by 5am not 2pm during visiting time.
>> Anyway, among this noisy disaster these are few works I (tried hard) to
>> enjoy...
>
>QR codes superimposed on the images don't help much.

And QR codes on web images are absolutely pointless.
 
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Re: Tallinn Flower Festival 2013 | Roman Melihhov Photography

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:36 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Roman Melihhov
>
>> http://roman.blakout.net/index.php?/category/87
>>
>> ^^^ It was worse than last years festivals. I couldn't find works that
>> kept me shooting + workers with their lawn trimmers wouldn't let enjoy
>> peace of mind and actually feel beautiful zenity of the garden. They
>> should have done trimming grass by 5am not 2pm during visiting time.
>> Anyway, among this noisy disaster these are few works I (tried hard) to
>> enjoy...
>
>
> QR codes superimposed on the images don't help much.

Yes

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RE: Tallinn Flower Festival 2013 | Roman Melihhov Photography

[John Sessoms]

From: Roman Melihhov

http://roman.blakout.net/index.php?/category/87

^^^ It was worse than last years festivals. I couldn't find works that
kept me shooting + workers with their lawn trimmers wouldn't let enjoy
peace of mind and actually feel beautiful zenity of the garden. They
should have done trimming grass by 5am not 2pm during visiting time.
Anyway, among this noisy disaster these are few works I (tried hard) to
enjoy...


QR codes superimposed on the images don't help much.

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Tallinn Flower Festival 2013 | Roman Melihhov Photography

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http://roman.blakout.net/index.php?/category/87

^^^ It was worse than last years festivals. I couldn't find works that
kept me shooting + workers with their lawn trimmers wouldn't let enjoy
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Re: OT RSMAS underwater photography contest winners

[Bob Sullivan]

Bruce.
Wonderful images showing the diversity of life forms under the surface.
Thanks,  Bob S.

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 2013 winners of the Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric
> Science underwater photography contest ...
>
> http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/outreach/underwater-photography/2013-winners
>
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Re: OT RSMAS underwater photography contest winners

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Great images.  Thanks for sharing the link.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 2013 winners of the Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric
> Science underwater photography contest ...
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> http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/outreach/underwater-photography/2013-winners
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OT RSMAS underwater photography contest winners

[Bruce Walker]

2013 winners of the Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric
Science underwater photography contest ...

http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/outreach/underwater-photography/2013-winners


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RE: STREETSHOTS122081879 02.resized | Roman Melihhov Photography

[Gerrit Visser]

The shot would look better if the lady on left was out of focus.
Catching him with his head down as well as the lady on RH side makes for an 
interesting effect.

Gerrit

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http://roman.blakout.net/picture.php?/341/category/43
   ^^^ Hair is important (street shots)...


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STREETSHOTS122081879 02.resized | Roman Melihhov Photography

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   ^^^ Hair is important (street shots)...


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Re: DA177012261236401B.resized | Roman Melihhov Photography

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On Sat, May 11, 2013, Roman Melihhov wrote:
>
> http://roman.blakout.net/picture.php?/566/category/66
> 
> DA 17-70mm is my absolute favorite because of the focal range and
> its sharpness. What I slightly dislike here, on this picture is that I
> had shadow enchancement on and it reduced contrast rather than making
> shadows and colors bit deeper.

Maybe you missed it, but a couple of months ago I asked about shadow
enhancement and was told rather firmly not to bother, if one's using RAW
files (which one should be).
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Re: DA177012261236401B.resized | Roman Melihhov Photography

[Don Guthrie]

Nice photo and a good point.

pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 12
Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 10:06:02 +0300
From: Roman Melihhov
To: pdml
Subject: DA177012261236401B.resized | Roman Melihhov Photography
Message-ID:<1368255962.1697.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

http://roman.blakout.net/picture.php?/566/category/66

^^^ DA 17-70mm is my absolute favorite because of the focal range and
its sharpness. What I slightly dislike here, on this picture is that I
had shadow enchancement on and it reduced contrast rather than making
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DA177012261236401B.resized | Roman Melihhov Photography

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http://roman.blakout.net/picture.php?/566/category/66

^^^ DA 17-70mm is my absolute favorite because of the focal range and
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Webby Awards: Best Use of Photography

[Darren Addy]

Passing this along, assuming that most of us appreciate good
photography at least as much as the average person.
The winning site: http://www.humansofnewyork.com/
but IMHO this nominee deserves your attention also: http://tooyoungtowed.org

All honorees here:
http://winners.webbyawards.com/2013/web/website-features-and-design/best-use-of-photography/honorees


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OT: This applies to photography, as well

[Darren Addy]

http://vimeo.com/24715531


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Re: OT but veering back towards photography (or not)

[Aahz Maruch]

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013, Rob Studdert wrote:
>
> Looks like a waste of some nice gear
> 
> http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2013/04/johnny-tergo-drive-by-portraits/#slideid-19263

He's lucky he hasn't been sued.  I know a number of people with various
kinds of eye problems that would get triggered by this setup.
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Digital Photography Help

[kwaller]

I've found Tim Grey to be a good source of answers to digital photography 
questions over the years. I first met him years ago when he was Geo Lepp's 
'computer guy'.
He offers a newsletter in which he responds to questions asked by his 
followers. His newsletter has morphed into a for 'fee service' in which you 
pay a yearly fee to actually ask your questions. Being the cheap guy I am, I
haven't bought into that but I do get his responses to the questions - it 
free.


For those interested he's at http://asktimgrey.com/

Kenneth Waller
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Re: OT but veering back towards photography (or not)

[Zos Xavius]

Too bad the colors are all messed up. Some  of these  are  not  bad.   You 
think  he could  have taken  the mirror out  the  composition.  I find it very 
distracting.

Charles Robinson  wrote:

>On Apr 11, 2013, at 09:05 , mike wilson 
>wrote:
>
>> On 11/04/2013 09:07, Bob W wrote:
>>> He can fix it in Photoshop.
>>> 
>>> B
>> 
>> Very, very sadly, I believe he already has.
>> 
>
>That's what *I* was going to say.  :-(
>>>> 
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>>>> Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 2:23 PM
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>>>> 
>>>> Looks like a waste of some nice gear
>>>> 
>>>>
>http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2013/04/johnny-tergo-drive-by-portraits/#slideid-19263
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>
>
> -Charles
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Re: OT but veering back towards photography (or not)

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On Apr 11, 2013, at 09:05 , mike wilson  wrote:

> On 11/04/2013 09:07, Bob W wrote:
>> He can fix it in Photoshop.
>> 
>> B
> 
> Very, very sadly, I believe he already has.
> 

That's what *I* was going to say.  :-(
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert
>>> Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 2:23 PM
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>>> Looks like a waste of some nice gear
>>> 
>>> http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2013/04/johnny-tergo-drive-by-portraits/#slideid-19263
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 


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Re: OT but veering back towards photography (or not)

[mike wilson]

On 11/04/2013 09:07, Bob W wrote:

He can fix it in Photoshop.

B


Very, very sadly, I believe he already has.



On 11 Apr 2013, at 06:02, "John Coyle"  wrote:


After all that effort, it's a shame the photos are  crap!  Colour values seem 
to be all over the
place, with a pronounced yellow cast on most.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Looks like a waste of some nice gear

http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2013/04/johnny-tergo-drive-by-portraits/#slideid-19263







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Re: OT but veering back towards photography (or not)

[Eactivist]

That is kind of creepy, I wonder what those  people think when they see the 
bright light (I doubt they can see the camera  most of the time).

Sort of light stalker photography. Heh.

Marnie  aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 4/10/2013 9:23:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight  Time, 
distudio.p...@gmail.com writes:
Looks like a waste of some nice  gear

http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2013/04/johnny-tergo-drive-by-portraits/#slidei
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600x900-EXTREME82421480edit | Roman Melihhov Photography

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http://roman.blakout.net/picture.php?/876/category/85
^^^ some get the color in their lives only by doing something extreme, like 
jumping out of the parking house 3rd floor.

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Re: OT but veering back towards photography (or not)

[Bob W]

He can fix it in Photoshop.

B

On 11 Apr 2013, at 06:02, "John Coyle"  wrote:

> After all that effort, it's a shame the photos are  crap!  Colour values seem 
> to be all over the
> place, with a pronounced yellow cast on most.
> 
> 
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert
> Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 2:23 PM
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> 
> Looks like a waste of some nice gear
> 
> http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2013/04/johnny-tergo-drive-by-portraits/#slideid-19263
> 
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Re: OT but veering back towards photography (or not)

[Bob W]

On 11 Apr 2013, at 05:22, Rob Studdert  wrote:

> Looks like a waste of some nice gear
> 
> http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2013/04/johnny-tergo-drive-by-portraits/#slideid-19263
> 
> 

HCB must be turning in his grave.

B
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RE: OT but veering back towards photography (or not)

[John Coyle]

After all that effort, it's a shame the photos are  crap!  Colour values seem 
to be all over the
place, with a pronounced yellow cast on most.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Looks like a waste of some nice gear

http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2013/04/johnny-tergo-drive-by-portraits/#slideid-19263

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OT but veering back towards photography (or not)

[Rob Studdert]

Looks like a waste of some nice gear

http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2013/04/johnny-tergo-drive-by-portraits/#slideid-19263

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OT - Editor in chief removes photography staff

[Brian Walters]

Photographers replaced by iPhone.  The future of photojournalism?

http://www.ucdadvocate.com/news/editor-in-chief-removes-photography-staff-1.3019332#.UV3xNGfBHsY


(OK - so it was an April Fools joke, but it got me in for a while)


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RE: Almost forgot - GFM Nature Photography Weekend Registration

[Bob W]

> 
> Does GMT spring forward when UK/Europe switch to "Summer Time".
>

GMT is GMT - it's a reference time. British Summer Time (BST) is GMT+1.
Tomorrow summer starts over here, and the morning is predicted to be frosty,
about -3C.

B

> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
> Sent: 30 March 2013 19:00
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Almost forgot - GFM Nature Photography Weekend Registration
> 
> "Online registration for the 2013 Nature Photography Weekend (to be
> held May 31-June 2, 2013) begins at 12:01 a.m. on Monday, April 1st."
> 
> http://www.grandfather.com/events/registration-for-2013-nature-
> photography-weekend/
> 
> I'm guessing they mean midnight Eastern Daylight Time at the end of the
> day Sunday when it turns into Monday.
> 
> Does GMT spring forward when UK/Europe switch to "Summer Time".
> 
> Grandfather Mountain is GMT -5, but we've sprung forward, so it's
> really GMT -4. But if GMT springs forward at 01:00 31Mar2013 when the
> UK/Europe switch to "Summer Time", we'll be back to GMT -5 ... I think
> ???
> 
> I'm confused now.
> 
> Besides, if it's like it's been the last two years, the server won't
> actually switch on at midnight local time anyway.
> 
> Anyway, thought you'd like to know.



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Re: Almost forgot - GFM Nature Photography Weekend Registration

[Bob Sullivan]

John,
I make that Sunday night/Monday morning...12:01 am.
I harassed them last year for saying 12:00 midnight April 1st,
as it was a bit ambiguous...not well received but they did change.
(Ever see a plane, train, bus scheduled for 12:00 am or pm.  NO!)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
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> 31-June 2, 2013) begins at 12:01 a.m. on Monday, April 1st."
>
> http://www.grandfather.com/events/registration-for-2013-nature-photography-weekend/
>
> I'm guessing they mean midnight Eastern Daylight Time at the end of the day
> Sunday when it turns into Monday.
>
> Does GMT spring forward when UK/Europe switch to "Summer Time".
>
> Grandfather Mountain is GMT -5, but we've sprung forward, so it's really GMT
> -4. But if GMT springs forward at 01:00 31Mar2013 when the UK/Europe switch
> to "Summer Time", we'll be back to GMT -5 ... I think ???
>
> I'm confused now.
>
> Besides, if it's like it's been the last two years, the server won't
> actually switch on at midnight local time anyway.
>
> Anyway, thought you'd like to know.
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Almost forgot - GFM Nature Photography Weekend Registration

[John Sessoms]

"Online registration for the 2013 Nature Photography Weekend (to be held 
May 31-June 2, 2013) begins at 12:01 a.m. on Monday, April 1st."


http://www.grandfather.com/events/registration-for-2013-nature-photography-weekend/

I'm guessing they mean midnight Eastern Daylight Time at the end of the 
day Sunday when it turns into Monday.


Does GMT spring forward when UK/Europe switch to "Summer Time".

Grandfather Mountain is GMT -5, but we've sprung forward, so it's really 
GMT -4. But if GMT springs forward at 01:00 31Mar2013 when the UK/Europe 
switch to "Summer Time", we'll be back to GMT -5 ... I think ???


I'm confused now.

Besides, if it's like it's been the last two years, the server won't 
actually switch on at midnight local time anyway.


Anyway, thought you'd like to know.

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Re: Book recommendations on stock photography

[John Sessoms]

From: Mark Roberts

Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi everyone:

Does anyone have any book recommendations that offer a
comprehensive discussion on how to get into the stock photography
business?


I imagine any book on that topic now would consist of a single word:
don't.


I have an acquaintance who is still doing stock. He says the important 
thing is extensive keywording, especially with scientific names - he has 
a large library of underwater photography and birds. If someone buys one 
he gets a little money & it doesn't take any additional work once he's 
done his keywording.


The way he tells it he basically listed his entire catalog with some 
agency and occasionally someone will buy rights to use something they 
found searching by the scientific name.


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Re: Book recommendations on stock photography

[Christine Aguila]

A wick read to be sure.  Thanks!  Christine



On Mar 24, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> Christine Aguila wrote:
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>> Hi everyone:
>> 
>> Does anyone have any book recommendations that offer a comprehensive 
>> discussion on how to get into the stock photography business?  
> 
> I imagine any book on that topic now would consist of a single word:
> don't.
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Re: Book recommendations on stock photography

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Christine Aguila wrote:

>Hi everyone:
>
>Does anyone have any book recommendations that offer a comprehensive 
>discussion on how to get into the stock photography business?  

I imagine any book on that topic now would consist of a single word:
don't.
 
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Re: Book recommendations on stock photography

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Paul.  Good to know.  Cheers, Christine 



On Mar 24, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> I don't have any recommendations in regard to reading material. But I can 
> tell you  that I once sold quite a bit of stock, and have watched the market 
> collapse.  The internet has pretty much killed stock as a viable well for 
> photographers to sell work  in that there are now billions of shots available 
> for next to nothing. The only people I know who are making money on stock are 
> the top Getty photographers. However, I haven't looked into it recently. 
> Would love to hear that I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
> 
> Paul
> On Mar 24, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
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>> Hi everyone:
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>> Does anyone have any book recommendations that offer a comprehensive 
>> discussion on how to get into the stock photography business?  
>> 
>> Cheers, Christine 
>> 
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Re: Book recommendations on stock photography

[Paul Stenquist]

I don't have any recommendations in regard to reading material. But I can tell 
you  that I once sold quite a bit of stock, and have watched the market 
collapse.  The internet has pretty much killed stock as a viable well for 
photographers to sell work  in that there are now billions of shots available 
for next to nothing. The only people I know who are making money on stock are 
the top Getty photographers. However, I haven't looked into it recently. Would 
love to hear that I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

Paul
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> 
> Cheers, Christine 
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Book recommendations on stock photography

[Christine Aguila]

Hi everyone:

Does anyone have any book recommendations that offer a comprehensive discussion 
on how to get into the stock photography business?  

Cheers, Christine 



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IMG117 | Roman Melihhov Photography

[Roman Melihhov]

http://roman.blakout.net/picture.php?/855/category/82
This is one of those situations when cell phone camera is irreplaceable. Fliers 
and soda can makes so lovely photo set.

* LG-400 + built-in photo editor for slight sharpening and color 
auto-adjustments *



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Re:Spring 2013 | Roman Melihhov Photography

[Don Guthrie]

Very pretty, I always think the "Lens Baby" effect works well on flowers.

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:33:41 +0200
From: Roman Melihhov
To: pdml
Subject: Spring 2013 | Roman Melihhov Photography
Message-ID:<1363642421.2931.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

http://roman.blakout.net/index.php?/category/84

I'd used K-5 DA 17-70mm with closeup loupes 2? + 10? combined. Side
effect of this lens structure is that they only have sharp center of the
image and focus is blurring out to the edges. This makes however pinhole
effect. These are my first blossoms of the spring 2013.


-- roman.blakout.net K-5 ? DA 16-45 ? DA 17-70 SDM ? DA* 50-135 SDM ? FA
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Spring 2013 | Roman Melihhov Photography

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http://roman.blakout.net/index.php?/category/84

I'd used K-5 DA 17-70mm with closeup loupes 2× + 10× combined. Side
effect of this lens structure is that they only have sharp center of the
image and focus is blurring out to the edges. This makes however pinhole
effect. These are my first blossoms of the spring 2013.


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RE: Photography on the Beach

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I really like this one, Dan! Beautifully composed, everything is very well 
placed in the frame.

Love it!

cheers,
frank

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: March 13, 2013 3/13/13
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Subject: Photography on the Beach

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17037892
Comments are invited.
Dan Matyola
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Photography on science friday, including pentax content

[Larry Colen]

On my way to lunch I caught the last few minutes of Sci fri on NPR, they
were doing a show on wildlife photography.

This little piece even points to a Pentaxian's gallery
http://www.sciencefriday.com/blogs/02/20/2013/wild-advice-for-shutterbugs.html?interest=1&audience=4&series=20

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/12/photo-journal/shahan-photography

A few more links to their photo contest can be found here:

http://www.sciencefriday.com/

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Re: Photography on the Beach

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I don't think so.  I think he is using "live view" or the equivalent
on his camera to compose and focus the shot.
Dan Matyola
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> Chimping no less...
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> Kenneth Waller
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> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
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> Subject: Photography on the Beach
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>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17037892
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Re: Photography on the Beach

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Chimping no less...

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Photography on the Beach



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17037892
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Re: Photography on the Beach

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Jack and Don, for looking and commenting.

Everyone in the scene, except the gent coming out of the water, is
there to watch the sun set (as was I).  The photographer with the
tripod was setting up for a standard sunset shot when he noticed some
iron and cement from and old pier that had been exposed by low tide,
and he adjusted the tripod to sand level to capture that while waiting
for the sun to get near the horizon.  This bit of beach junk is
something I have also photographed many times:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16996383

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> A lot going on here and I appreciate the joke in the title. Still I think
> I'd send you back to the showers. :)
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>> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:58:07 -0400
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>> From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
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>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17037892
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>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: Photography on the Beach

[Jack Davis]

The guy on the right appears to be "protecting" his lady from that photog. 
Gave me a grin.

Jack


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Subject: Photography on the Beach

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17037892
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RE: Video: The Dangers of Photography

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jeffery Johnson
> 
> Lion sniffs cameraman's crotch | Crazy Cameraman Ep7
> 
> http://youtu.be/A_-9t5lXXSU

that guy's got some balls to stand there like that.

The first time I was in Ethiopia I went to the outside of one town to watch
hyenas in the evening. I squatted by the side of the car the took us there,
trying (unsuccessfully) to get available light photos of them coming in from
the bush. I hadn't realised how close they would come, otherwise I'd have
stayed in the car, but one of them passed within 2 metres of me. It really
smelled very bad indeed, but I'm surprised it couldn't smell my fear. I've
never felt my hackles rise, or felt such a rush of adrenaline as when that
thing sauntered past. I'm sure I would have moved if it had come towards me
the way that lion comes towards the photographer. Incredible animals.

I like his trick of using 3 beanbags.

B


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Video: The Dangers of Photography

[Jeffery Johnson]

Lion sniffs cameraman's crotch | Crazy Cameraman Ep7

http://youtu.be/A_-9t5lXXSU
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RE: Photography. My photography, even...

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Beautiful photos (I remember them well!), most deserving of the recognition.

Congratulations!

Cheers,
frank

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Subject: Photography. My photography, even...

Despite months of concentrating on other things - my course work, the
PDML book, the textbook I'm writing - I somehow manage to work in a
little space for my own photography. Yes, really. I'm not kidding.

Anyway, two of my photographs have been selected for a juried exhibit
at the Boston Convention & Exhibition Center starting later this
month. Opening reception is on March 28. I'll have more details later.
 
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Re: Photography. My photography, even...

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on 2013-03-01 8:45 Mark Roberts wrote

I've shown them to the PDML before. Herre they are:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm



congrats; the tonality of both, and the whole image of the live oak, remind me 
of Paul Strand's work, which i've been looking at lately





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Re: Photography. My photography, even...

[Mark Roberts]

Aahz Maruch wrote:

>On Fri, Mar 01, 2013, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> 
>>>Wonderful, Mark.  Congratulations!
>>>
>>>Can you share the images with us?
>> 
>> I've shown them to the PDML before. Herre they are:
>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm
>
>Nice!  What size did you print them?  What kind of paper?  (Trying to
>imagine what they look like on the wall, since I'm sure not getting to
>Boston any time soon.)

The prints are 12" x 18", printed on my Epson R3000 on Ilford "Gold
Fibre Silk" paper. 

>Side question: did you get earlier notice or is this standard notice?
>(Seems to me that less than a month is short notice, but I know nothing
>about exhibitions -- my schedule is often set months or even years in
>advance.)

This notice is a little short, but not atypical. I'm sure the Museum
of Modern Art will give me much more advance warning when they
eventually recognize my talent and invite me to exhibit there ;-)
 
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Re: Photography. My photography, even...

[Walt]

On 3/1/2013 8:58 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Despite months of concentrating on other things - my course work, the
PDML book, the textbook I'm writing - I somehow manage to work in a
little space for my own photography. Yes, really. I'm not kidding.

Anyway, two of my photographs have been selected for a juried exhibit
at the Boston Convention & Exhibition Center starting later this
month. Opening reception is on March 28. I'll have more details later.
  

That's great, Mark! Congratulations on your well deserved selection!

-- Walt

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