Re: Re: [Fwd: Position in the World-System and NationalEmissions of] (fwd)
Charles Brown wrote: To purport to answer your question fully would be to assume the approach of a utopian. The answer to your question must come in the main from the practice, trial and error, of billions of people. This is evasive. I'm not asking for a 24-volume detailed blueprint - I'm asking for general principles of organization, and specifically those that are technically feasible but politically impossible under capitalism. If red-greens can't do this, they will convince no one of anything except their millennarian fervor. Doug
Re: [Fwd: Position in the World-System and NationalEmissions of] (fwd)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found myself in agreement with Lou's recent post suggesting that the roots of ecological crisis and overpopulation pressures lie in the contradictions of capitalism, and that a socialist revolution is not only necessary but also desirable if we are to have a sustainable ecological system in the future. Hmm, ok, maybe I can get an answer from you: what changes in industrial and agricultural practices, energy sources, the build environment, living arrangements, etc., will occur under socialism that will avoid the eco-catastrophe capitalism supposedly has in store for us. It's not just a matter of invoking the words "socialist revolution" along the lines of "Presto Change-o," is it? Doug
Re: Re: [Fwd: Position in the World-System and NationalEmissions of] (fwd)
Doug, Obviously none of the desirable changes you and I and Mine hope for will happen. But capitalism will collapse anyway. Prove me wrong. Address the issues. And stop whingeing about how awful it will be; we know that. Mark Jones http://www.egroups.com/group/CrashList - Original Message - From: "Doug Henwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 10:59 PM Subject: [PEN-L:20897] Re: [Fwd: Position in the World-System and NationalEmissions of] (fwd) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found myself in agreement with Lou's recent post suggesting that the roots of ecological crisis and overpopulation pressures lie in the contradictions of capitalism, and that a socialist revolution is not only necessary but also desirable if we are to have a sustainable ecological system in the future. Hmm, ok, maybe I can get an answer from you: what changes in industrial and agricultural practices, energy sources, the build environment, living arrangements, etc., will occur under socialism that will avoid the eco-catastrophe capitalism supposedly has in store for us. It's not just a matter of invoking the words "socialist revolution" along the lines of "Presto Change-o," is it? Doug
