[GENERAL] PostgreSQL training
Hi, I'm working on an application for a client that uses PostgreSQL as its database backend. The client wants to train their team on PostgreSQL so that they can maintain the application and the database themselves after it goes live should they need to. As far as I know the majority of them don't have any experience with databases (other than using applications that rely on them of course). The type of training that they would need would need to cover generic database concepts (database design, SQL), as well as PostgreSQL-specific information (mostly database administration, maybe some performance tuning). They can travel anywhere within the US to take the training. I noticed there were a few training events posted on postgresql.org, but only one of them is within the US (PostgreSQL Bootcamp, next month), and I'm not sure if that course would offer the right type of training for them (I think they'd need something more elementary). Do you guys have any suggestions as far as training is concerned (training events throughout the year, companies that do PostgreSQL training, etc.)? Thanks a lot, Alex ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
[GENERAL] PostgreSQL training
Hello All, I want to take a training course about “PostgreSQL” and have been browsing trough http://www.postgresql.org/about/eventarchive , but I am not sure about the level of training offered as there are disclaimers everywhere. Is there anybody on the list having experience with training offered? If so please share your opinion We are using PostgreSQL for a couple of years now so I am interested in advanced courses, like http://www.postgresql.org/about/event.1092 . Anybody having experience with “Modern Course” they like to share? Greetings, Ingmar -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL training
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 15:23, Alex Adriaanse wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm working on an application for a client that uses PostgreSQL as its
> database backend. The client wants to train their team on PostgreSQL so
> that they can maintain the application and the database themselves after
> it goes live should they need to. As far as I know the majority of them
> don't have any experience with databases (other than using applications
> that rely on them of course). The type of training that they would need
> would need to cover generic database concepts (database design, SQL), as
> well as PostgreSQL-specific information (mostly database administration,
> maybe some performance tuning).
>
> They can travel anywhere within the US to take the training. I noticed
> there were a few training events posted on postgresql.org, but only one
> of them is within the US (PostgreSQL Bootcamp, next month), and I'm not
> sure if that course would offer the right type of training for them (I
> think they'd need something more elementary).
>
> Do you guys have any suggestions as far as training is concerned
> (training events throughout the year, companies that do PostgreSQL
> training, etc.)?
>
My first recommendation would be to see if attending OSCon is an option
for them, since there will be a number of classes at different levels
that they could attend, plus they would get the chance to meet other
postgresql users and developers.
If that doesn't work, try contacting some of the bigger support
companies like Pervasive or SRA who both have intentions of doing
training services so they might have something for you.
Next up would be any of the smaller support companies listed at
http://techdocs.postgresql.org/companies.php, many of whom offer
training courses that might fit what your looking for.
If you still can't find anything then, given enough dollars, I'll do a
weekend crash course for you guys ;-) Actually I should mention a
disclaimer here in that afaik the Nerd Ranch guys can go either "fast or
slow" on the course depending on the aptitude of the students... if your
going to be sending multiple people it wouldn't hurt to talk with them.
HTH
Robert Treat
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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL training
Alex Adriaanse presumably uttered the following on 03/13/05 15:23: Hi, I'm working on an application for a client that uses PostgreSQL as its database backend. The client wants to train their team on PostgreSQL so that they can maintain the application and the database themselves after it goes live should they need to. As far as I know the majority of them don't have any experience with databases (other than using applications that rely on them of course). The type of training that they would need would need to cover generic database concepts (database design, SQL), as well as PostgreSQL-specific information (mostly database administration, maybe some performance tuning). They can travel anywhere within the US to take the training. I noticed there were a few training events posted on postgresql.org, but only one of them is within the US (PostgreSQL Bootcamp, next month), and I'm not sure if that course would offer the right type of training for them (I think they'd need something more elementary). Do you guys have any suggestions as far as training is concerned (training events throughout the year, companies that do PostgreSQL training, etc.)? Thanks a lot, Alex I would like to mention that the folks at the Big Nerd Ranch (tm) who run the PostgreSQL boot camp also do on-site training which would then be tailored to your own organization's needs. (www.bignerdranch.com) Having attended their week-long training I can certainly attest to the benefits such training has. Sven ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
[GENERAL] PostgreSQL training curriculum
I've been contracted to provide 3 days of PostgreSQL training, and I'm wondering if anyone has curriculum they'd like to share with me, or suggestions for course materials. This course is targeted at database experts who want to come up to speed on PostgreSQL, so it will deal mostly with installation, tuning, and troubleshooting. I am being paid for this training, so keep that in mind if you're a real GPL zealot. ;) I've seen that Bruce Momjian has curriculum posted on his website, but I haven't turned anything else up yet. -- Jim C. Nasby, Database Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Training
Bret. > The MySQL certifications, are international skillset certifications, > like MCAD, MCSD, MCSE, RHCE, and LPI certifications, and, from what I > understand, similarly, internationally recognised. In my experience these have less to do with being proficient at a disipline and more to do with marketing (of the individual holding the certificate and of the application). The people here are more doers than marketers. That being said, PostgreSQL could sure use some more marketing. > My wife is a software developer, by profession. She also trains people, > and has trained lecturers, in some of the development software in which > she develops. Sounds like there is room for YOU and your wife could get involved in setting up and administering some kind of PorstgreSQL certification program! I have no idea if this would be feasible in the PostgreSQL community or not, and I've read here that Red Hat is doing just that with their dialect of the PostgreSQL server (maybe somebody else can elaborate). As far as books, I just know returned a book to the library, 'Learn SQL in 14 days' or something similiar (sorry, don't remember the author) and the concepts presented there (which includes triggers and procedures, etc.) are transferrable to any SQL database. There are some good PostgreSQL specific books, too (including Bruce Momjian's). If you think there is a need for a basic starter's guide to PostgreSQL you might put one together and offer it (for money, or otherwise!). You are right in that PostgreSQL could benefit from more marketing. The world is your oyster! brew == Strange Brew ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Check out my Musician's Online Database Exchange (The MODE Pages) http://www.TheMode.com == ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL training curriculum
"Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am being paid for this training, so keep that in mind if you're a real > GPL zealot. ;) Why would a GPL zealot care if you are being paid to provide training? ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html
Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL training curriculum
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 04:13:46PM -0600, Doug Quale wrote: > "Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am being paid for this training, so keep that in mind if you're a real > > GPL zealot. ;) > > Why would a GPL zealot care if you are being paid to provide training? Maybe 'GPL zealot' is a bad choice of words, but it wouldn't surprise me if some people who post training information wouldn't want it used by someone who's going to turn around and make money on it. I suspect few if any PostgreSQL users are like that (since PostgreSQL is BSD licensed), but you never know. -- Jim C. Nasby, Database Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL training curriculum
Or anything else for that matter? The GPL specifically allows you to charge even for the software (for other people's work, in fact); the catch is that you can't prevent the people you sell it to from giving it away for free, so what's the point ;-) (although companies like redhat and mandrake do it all the time, of course... they provide commercial support and nice company-logo books 'n boxes to compensate for that fact, but in the end...) Also, PostgreSQL is *not* covered by the GPL. On Dec 21, 2004, at 5:13 PM, Doug Quale wrote: "Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I am being paid for this training, so keep that in mind if you're a real GPL zealot. ;) Why would a GPL zealot care if you are being paid to provide training? ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16" John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL training curriculum
The FSF site explicitly says that free software is not free, it's about freedom. I don't think the idea is to let your kids starve. --Rick "Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Doug Quale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL training curriculum tgresql.org 12/21/2004 05:41 PM On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 04:13:46PM -0600, Doug Quale wrote: > "Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am being paid for this training, so keep that in mind if you're a real > > GPL zealot. ;) > > Why would a GPL zealot care if you are being paid to provide training? Maybe 'GPL zealot' is a bad choice of words, but it wouldn't surprise me if some people who post training information wouldn't want it used by someone who's going to turn around and make money on it. I suspect few if any PostgreSQL users are like that (since PostgreSQL is BSD licensed), but you never know. -- Jim C. Nasby, Database Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL training curriculum
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Jim C. Nasby wrote: I've been contracted to provide 3 days of PostgreSQL training, and I'm wondering if anyone has curriculum they'd like to share with me, or suggestions for course materials. This course is targeted at database experts who want to come up to speed on PostgreSQL, so it will deal mostly with installation, tuning, and troubleshooting. http://www.tdmsoft.com/en//PostgreSQL/pdf/TDM-PostgreSQL-Training-Curriculum.pdf is TDM's Training Curriculum for PostgreSQL. It is a bit old, but will be updated *after* 8.0.0 will be released. - -HTH Regards, - -- Devrim GUNDUZ devrim~gunduz.orgdevrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr http://www.tdmsoft.com http://www.gunduz.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB0EC0tl86P3SPfQ4RAssUAKCe2CU6zgmGXQYKYVV+NvGmREZUwgCgnjL0 aoiF4HRRpkrSMMEby6yzU4s= =auKj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[GENERAL] postgresql training course, please recommend
dear all can any one recommend a good postgresql training course in the UK. thanks cheng = Best wishes Z C Wang ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - so many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [GENERAL] postgresql training course, please recommend
Hi, On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, [iso-8859-1] zhicheng wang wrote: > can any one recommend a good postgresql training > course in the UK. thanks http://techdocs.postgresql.org/companies.php Some companies provide training courses for PostgreSQL. Regards, -- Devrim GUNDUZ devrim~gunduz.org devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr http://www.tdmsoft.com http://www.gunduz.org ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
