Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ok thanks i've fixed.
The problem is with 8.2.3 installer, i tried 8.1.8 and I had no problem.

Thanks

On 3/15/07, Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



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 From: Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 15/03/07, 22:32:50
 Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

 Dave Page escribió:
  Paul Lambert wrote:
 
  After install completes you can turn it back on... if you want -
  personally I leave it off, it's an incredibly annoying feature.
 
  Doesn't the security center keep popping up to point out that it's
  turned off?

 You mean, like this?

 
http://images.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac-security_480x376.mov


I haven't watched yet as I'm on my pda, but would it seem a little ironic if I 
pointed out that the Windows distribution of PostgreSQL is built on a Macbook 
Pro these days?

/D




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Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-16 Thread Brandon Aiken
Actually the only reason we have an email disclaimer is for CSIA
compliance.  We know they have a highly dubious legal standing, but,
hey, it's what the auditors require.

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-Original Message-
From: Konrad Neuwirth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:46 AM
To: Brandon Aiken
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

I find it ironic that this -- to my mind, very on the spot -- comment
comes with one of the mostly useless signature that there for ...
plausible deniability.

:-)
 Konrad

On 3/16/07, Brandon Aiken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 It was clear to me after 20 minutes of actually trying to use the OS
that
 UAC was a gimmick designed to supply plausible deniability for the
fact that
 Windows XP suffered so many problems with malware.  They can simply
ask
 were you using UAC? every time someone complains that their box got
 infected with some rootkit of some sort instead of actually having to
secure
 their OS intelligently.  They know darn well that everyone who uses
the OS
 will turn it off.  The silly thing is the boy-who-cried-wolf and
nothing
 more.

 Frankly, I like Windows Server 2003's default of not allowing you to
execute
 any program you got from elsewhere without explicitly unblocking it.
It
 works just as well, IMX, although the error message you get when you
forget
 about it is useless.

 B Aiken

  
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 Page
 Sent: Thu 3/15/2007 5:24 PM
 To: Paul Lambert
 Cc: Arkan; pgsql-general@postgresql.org
 Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?





 Paul Lambert wrote:

  After install completes you can turn it back on... if you want -
  personally I leave it off, it's an incredibly annoying feature.

 Doesn't the security center keep popping up to point out that it's
 turned off?

 Regards Dave

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Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Brandon Aiken wrote:
 Actually the only reason we have an email disclaimer is for CSIA
 compliance.  We know they have a highly dubious legal standing, but,
 hey, it's what the auditors require.

google CSIA turns up a bunch of stuff. what is it exactly?

 
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 CS/IT Systems Engineer
 -Original Message-
 From: Konrad Neuwirth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:46 AM
 To: Brandon Aiken
 Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?
 
 I find it ironic that this -- to my mind, very on the spot -- comment
 comes with one of the mostly useless signature that there for ...
 plausible deniability.
 
 :-)
  Konrad
 
 On 3/16/07, Brandon Aiken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 It was clear to me after 20 minutes of actually trying to use the OS
 that
 UAC was a gimmick designed to supply plausible deniability for the
 fact that
 Windows XP suffered so many problems with malware.  They can simply
 ask
 were you using UAC? every time someone complains that their box got
 infected with some rootkit of some sort instead of actually having to
 secure
 their OS intelligently.  They know darn well that everyone who uses
 the OS
 will turn it off.  The silly thing is the boy-who-cried-wolf and
 nothing
 more.

 Frankly, I like Windows Server 2003's default of not allowing you to
 execute
 any program you got from elsewhere without explicitly unblocking it.
 It
 works just as well, IMX, although the error message you get when you
 forget
 about it is useless.

 B Aiken

  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dave
 Page
 Sent: Thu 3/15/2007 5:24 PM
 To: Paul Lambert
 Cc: Arkan; pgsql-general@postgresql.org
 Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?





 Paul Lambert wrote:

 After install completes you can turn it back on... if you want -
 personally I leave it off, it's an incredibly annoying feature.
 Doesn't the security center keep popping up to point out that it's
 turned off?

 Regards Dave

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Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-16 Thread Brandon Aiken
It's about $20,000 cheaper than ISO (ISA? IEC? One of those TLAs.)
certification.  Industrial engineering.

CSIA is industrial control certification:
http://www.controlsys.org/

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-Original Message-
From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:19 AM
To: Brandon Aiken
Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

Brandon Aiken wrote:
 Actually the only reason we have an email disclaimer is for CSIA
 compliance.  We know they have a highly dubious legal standing, but,
 hey, it's what the auditors require.

google CSIA turns up a bunch of stuff. what is it exactly?

 
 --
 Brandon Aiken
 CS/IT Systems Engineer
 -Original Message-
 From: Konrad Neuwirth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:46 AM
 To: Brandon Aiken
 Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?
 
 I find it ironic that this -- to my mind, very on the spot -- comment
 comes with one of the mostly useless signature that there for ...
 plausible deniability.
 
 :-)
  Konrad
 
 On 3/16/07, Brandon Aiken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 It was clear to me after 20 minutes of actually trying to use the OS
 that
 UAC was a gimmick designed to supply plausible deniability for the
 fact that
 Windows XP suffered so many problems with malware.  They can simply
 ask
 were you using UAC? every time someone complains that their box got
 infected with some rootkit of some sort instead of actually having to
 secure
 their OS intelligently.  They know darn well that everyone who uses
 the OS
 will turn it off.  The silly thing is the boy-who-cried-wolf and
 nothing
 more.

 Frankly, I like Windows Server 2003's default of not allowing you to
 execute
 any program you got from elsewhere without explicitly unblocking it.
 It
 works just as well, IMX, although the error message you get when you
 forget
 about it is useless.

 B Aiken

  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dave
 Page
 Sent: Thu 3/15/2007 5:24 PM
 To: Paul Lambert
 Cc: Arkan; pgsql-general@postgresql.org
 Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?





 Paul Lambert wrote:

 After install completes you can turn it back on... if you want -
 personally I leave it off, it's an incredibly annoying feature.
 Doesn't the security center keep popping up to point out that it's
 turned off?

 Regards Dave

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Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-16 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi,

Am Donnerstag, 15. Mär 2007, 15:38:56 +0100 schrieb A. Kretschmer:
 am  Wed, dem 14.03.2007, um  1:24:01 -0700 mailte Arkan folgendes:
  have anybody installed PgSQL on Windows Vista? [...]

 
 Someone write this about vista:
 
 1. Disable UAC
 2. EnableAdministrator account
 3. Login as administrator

Sorry. I am bored to write this and you are bored to read
this: starting with or turning to Postgres is a good
opportunity to convince your customer to use an OS rather
than a relegating makeshift.

Bertram


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[GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-15 Thread Arkan
Hi all,

have anybody installed PgSQL on Windows Vista? I tried yesterday but I
fail... on XP and linux i've installed pgsql much times but on
vista...  nothing to do! Version in 8.2.3 with the installer.

If I install with my user account (with administrative rights), the
installlation fails on setting file permission, about at 3/4 of the
process.

If I install with Administrator account, the installer fail when
starting the service..

any ideas?


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Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-15 Thread A. Kretschmer
am  Wed, dem 14.03.2007, um  1:24:01 -0700 mailte Arkan folgendes:
 Hi all,
 
 have anybody installed PgSQL on Windows Vista? I tried yesterday but I
 fail... on XP and linux i've installed pgsql much times but on
 vista...  nothing to do! Version in 8.2.3 with the installer.
 
 If I install with my user account (with administrative rights), the
 installlation fails on setting file permission, about at 3/4 of the
 process.

Someone write this about vista:

1. Disable UAC
2. EnableAdministrator account
3. Login as administrator
4. Install postgres the normal way
5. Enure, that the pgadmin can be executed by everybode
6. Logout and login as normal user
7. enable UAC


Don't ask me, i'm not familar with windoze...


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Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-15 Thread Paul Lambert

Arkan wrote:

Hi all,

have anybody installed PgSQL on Windows Vista? I tried yesterday but I
fail... on XP and linux i've installed pgsql much times but on
vista...  nothing to do! Version in 8.2.3 with the installer.

If I install with my user account (with administrative rights), the
installlation fails on setting file permission, about at 3/4 of the
process.

If I install with Administrator account, the installer fail when
starting the service..

any ideas?



I've got it running on my vista machine, you just need to turn off User 
Account Control from the Control Panel - Security Settings - Other 
Settings for the duration of the installation.


After install completes you can turn it back on... if you want - 
personally I leave it off, it's an incredibly annoying feature.


Note, turning UAC off and on both require reboots.

P.

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Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-15 Thread Dave Page

Paul Lambert wrote:

After install completes you can turn it back on... if you want - 
personally I leave it off, it's an incredibly annoying feature.


Doesn't the security center keep popping up to point out that it's 
turned off?


Regards Dave

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Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-15 Thread Paul Lambert

Dave Page wrote:

Paul Lambert wrote:

After install completes you can turn it back on... if you want - 
personally I leave it off, it's an incredibly annoying feature.


Doesn't the security center keep popping up to point out that it's 
turned off?


Regards Dave




Ahh, but there is an option on the menu on the lefthand side of security 
center Change the way security center alerts me through which you can 
select to either have an icon in your taskbar with a popup, to have just 
an icon in your taskbar, or to do nothing.


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Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-15 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Dave Page escribió:
 Paul Lambert wrote:
 
 After install completes you can turn it back on... if you want - 
 personally I leave it off, it's an incredibly annoying feature.
 
 Doesn't the security center keep popping up to point out that it's 
 turned off?

You mean, like this?

http://images.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac-security_480x376.mov

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Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-15 Thread Dave Page


 --- Original Message ---
 From: Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 15/03/07, 22:32:50
 Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?
 
 Dave Page escribió:
  Paul Lambert wrote:
  
  After install completes you can turn it back on... if you want - 
  personally I leave it off, it's an incredibly annoying feature.
  
  Doesn't the security center keep popping up to point out that it's 
  turned off?
 
 You mean, like this?
 
 http://images.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac-security_480x376.mov
 

I haven't watched yet as I'm on my pda, but would it seem a little ironic if I 
pointed out that the Windows distribution of PostgreSQL is built on a Macbook 
Pro these days?

/D

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Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-15 Thread Paul Lambert

Alvaro Herrera wrote:

Dave Page escribió:

Paul Lambert wrote:

After install completes you can turn it back on... if you want - 
personally I leave it off, it's an incredibly annoying feature.
Doesn't the security center keep popping up to point out that it's 
turned off?


You mean, like this?

http://images.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac-security_480x376.mov



Hillarious :) Yet sadly accurate...

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Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?

2007-03-15 Thread Brandon Aiken
It was clear to me after 20 minutes of actually trying to use the OS that UAC 
was a gimmick designed to supply plausible deniability for the fact that 
Windows XP suffered so many problems with malware.  They can simply ask were 
you using UAC? every time someone complains that their box got infected with 
some rootkit of some sort instead of actually having to secure their OS 
intelligently.  They know darn well that everyone who uses the OS will turn it 
off.  The silly thing is the boy-who-cried-wolf and nothing more.
 
Frankly, I like Windows Server 2003's default of not allowing you to execute 
any program you got from elsewhere without explicitly unblocking it.  It works 
just as well, IMX, although the error message you get when you forget about it 
is useless.
 
B Aiken



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To: Paul Lambert
Cc: Arkan; pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PgSql on Vista?



Paul Lambert wrote:

 After install completes you can turn it back on... if you want -
 personally I leave it off, it's an incredibly annoying feature.

Doesn't the security center keep popping up to point out that it's
turned off?

Regards Dave

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