Re: [HACKERS] pg_restore ignores PGDATABASE

2012-08-27 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:25:55AM -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/19/2012 08:02 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
> >On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Erik Rijkers  wrote:
> >>On Sun, February 19, 2012 06:27, Robert Haas wrote:
> >>>On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Erik Rijkers  wrote:
> pg_restore ignores environment variable PGDATABASE.
> >>>What exactly do you mean by "ignores"?  pg_restore prints results to
> >>>standard output unless a database name is specified.  AFAIK, there's
> >>>no syntax to say "I want a direct-to-database restore to whatever you
> >>>think the default database is".
> >>That's right, and that seems contradictory with:
> >>
> >>"This utility [pg_restore], like most other PostgreSQL utilities, also uses 
> >>the environment
> >>variables supported by libpq (see Section 31.13)."
> >>
> >>as pg_restore does 'ignore' (for want of a better word) PGDATABASE.
> >>
> >>But I think I can conclude from your reply that that behaviour is indeed 
> >>intentional.
> >It is, because we want there to be a way of converting a custom or tar
> >format archive back to text.  I think that probably works out for the
> >best anyway, since pg_restore is a sufficiently dangerous operation
> >that you want to be darn sure you're not doing it on the wrong
> >database.  dropdb also requires a database name, while createdb does
> >not, for similar reasons...
> 
> Right, I think we probably need to adjust the docs slightly to match
> this reality.

Done, with the attached patch.

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diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_restore.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_restore.sgml
new file mode 100644
index bc3d2b7..b276da6
*** a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_restore.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_restore.sgml
***
*** 686,692 

 This utility, like most other PostgreSQL utilities,
 also uses the environment variables supported by libpq
!(see ).

  
   
--- 686,693 

 This utility, like most other PostgreSQL utilities,
 also uses the environment variables supported by libpq
!(see ).  However, it does not read
!PGDATABASE when a database name is not supplied.

  
   

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_restore ignores PGDATABASE

2012-02-19 Thread Andrew Dunstan



On 02/19/2012 08:02 AM, Robert Haas wrote:

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Erik Rijkers  wrote:

On Sun, February 19, 2012 06:27, Robert Haas wrote:

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Erik Rijkers  wrote:

pg_restore ignores environment variable PGDATABASE.

What exactly do you mean by "ignores"?  pg_restore prints results to
standard output unless a database name is specified.  AFAIK, there's
no syntax to say "I want a direct-to-database restore to whatever you
think the default database is".

That's right, and that seems contradictory with:

"This utility [pg_restore], like most other PostgreSQL utilities, also uses the 
environment
variables supported by libpq (see Section 31.13)."

as pg_restore does 'ignore' (for want of a better word) PGDATABASE.

But I think I can conclude from your reply that that behaviour is indeed 
intentional.

It is, because we want there to be a way of converting a custom or tar
format archive back to text.  I think that probably works out for the
best anyway, since pg_restore is a sufficiently dangerous operation
that you want to be darn sure you're not doing it on the wrong
database.  dropdb also requires a database name, while createdb does
not, for similar reasons...


Right, I think we probably need to adjust the docs slightly to match 
this reality.


cheers

andrew


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Re: [HACKERS] pg_restore ignores PGDATABASE

2012-02-19 Thread Robert Haas
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Erik Rijkers  wrote:
> On Sun, February 19, 2012 06:27, Robert Haas wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Erik Rijkers  wrote:
>>> pg_restore ignores environment variable PGDATABASE.
>>
>> What exactly do you mean by "ignores"?  pg_restore prints results to
>> standard output unless a database name is specified.  AFAIK, there's
>> no syntax to say "I want a direct-to-database restore to whatever you
>> think the default database is".
>
> That's right, and that seems contradictory with:
>
> "This utility [pg_restore], like most other PostgreSQL utilities, also uses 
> the environment
> variables supported by libpq (see Section 31.13)."
>
> as pg_restore does 'ignore' (for want of a better word) PGDATABASE.
>
> But I think I can conclude from your reply that that behaviour is indeed 
> intentional.

It is, because we want there to be a way of converting a custom or tar
format archive back to text.  I think that probably works out for the
best anyway, since pg_restore is a sufficiently dangerous operation
that you want to be darn sure you're not doing it on the wrong
database.  dropdb also requires a database name, while createdb does
not, for similar reasons...

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_restore ignores PGDATABASE

2012-02-18 Thread Erik Rijkers
On Sun, February 19, 2012 06:27, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Erik Rijkers  wrote:
>> pg_restore ignores environment variable PGDATABASE.
>
> What exactly do you mean by "ignores"?  pg_restore prints results to
> standard output unless a database name is specified.  AFAIK, there's
> no syntax to say "I want a direct-to-database restore to whatever you
> think the default database is".

That's right, and that seems contradictory with:

"This utility [pg_restore], like most other PostgreSQL utilities, also uses the 
environment
variables supported by libpq (see Section 31.13)."

as pg_restore does 'ignore' (for want of a better word) PGDATABASE.

But I think I can conclude from your reply that that behaviour is indeed 
intentional.


thanks,

Erik Rijkers



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Re: [HACKERS] pg_restore ignores PGDATABASE

2012-02-18 Thread Robert Haas
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Erik Rijkers  wrote:
> pg_restore ignores environment variable PGDATABASE.

What exactly do you mean by "ignores"?  pg_restore prints results to
standard output unless a database name is specified.  AFAIK, there's
no syntax to say "I want a direct-to-database restore to whatever you
think the default database is".

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[HACKERS] pg_restore ignores PGDATABASE

2012-02-18 Thread Erik Rijkers
pg_restore ignores environment variable PGDATABASE.

Is this intentional?  (perhaps because of the risk of restoring into the wrong 
db?)

I would prefer if it would honor the PGDATABASE variable, but if it does ignore 
it intentionally,
the following (from 9.2devel docs) is obviously incorrect:

"This utility, like most other PostgreSQL utilities, also uses the environment 
variables supported
by libpq (see Section 31.13)."

I could look into fixing one (binary) or the other (docs), but what /is/ the 
preferred behavior?


thanks,


Erik Rijkers




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